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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Hawgdawg on January 14, 2014, 07:17:30 AM

Title: possible banned ammo
Post by: Hawgdawg on January 14, 2014, 07:17:30 AM: A friend of mine has some boxes of Accelerator ammo in 3 0t 6. Doe's anyone know if they were banned. And do they still sell them. Thanks
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: Woodchuck on January 14, 2014, 07:22:00 AM: They quit making it some years ago, that said if he doesnt want it, I will buy it
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 14, 2014, 07:28:40 AM: you can still buy the sabots and handload your own... my dad has been doing it with .308 and 30.06 as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: h2ofowlr on January 14, 2014, 07:34:59 AM: I don't believe they were banned. Probably quit making them due to demand and a more difficult process with the use of automation. You have to weigh the cost to profit scenario. Used to use them on varmints all the time.
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: Hawgdawg on January 14, 2014, 09:03:16 AM: Urban legion claims they took it off the market because of the plastic wad, sabot would allow it to leave the weapon with out making riffling on the bullet. Perfect round for a bad guy. Anyone have input on that thought?
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: Woodchuck on January 14, 2014, 09:17:33 AM: I have heard the same thing, not sure if 100% true or not.
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: snowpack on January 14, 2014, 09:45:49 AM: I think it came off the market because of demand. Varmint guys tend to like rifles that are really accurate. Accelerator in my experience wasn't quite good enough for things like yotes and birds. I just used a .223 or a .22-250 instead.
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: Special T on January 14, 2014, 09:49:22 AM: I did a custome build up with my guns smith to reload your own cannot find the actual report I did here but here is a link to one of the discussions

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,76048.msg929658.html#msg929658 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,76048.msg929658.html#msg929658)

In short they don't work well because the rife twist and bullet weight don't match up you MAY beable to use a heavy 22 cal bullet but then you will slow the bullet down so you won't see the gains you are looking for.
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: AWS on January 14, 2014, 02:43:42 PM: You might want to take a look at this site, they make custom sabots for rifle reloading.

http://www.jdcomponents.com/index.html (http://www.jdcomponents.com/index.html)
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: ndcasla on January 15, 2014, 07:41:24 PM: I've been shooting sabot rounds from my 30 cal. rifles for some time.
I get the sabots from E. Arthur Brown, they are pretty cheap.
Out of a 30-06 you can push a 55 gr .224 flat base hollow point bullet about 4200 to 4600fps.
A couple of things, you have to get your rifle bore in an as new condition to have any accuracy, and you have to run a brush through the barrel after about 5-8 shots because the group really opens up. Plastic lay down.
Out of a 300 Win Mag you can push a bullet over 5000fps. They load real easy, use your standard dies, no special stuff needed. :twocents:
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: FC on January 17, 2014, 06:01:22 PM: Quote from: ndcasla on January 15, 2014, 07:41:24 PM

Out of a 300 Win Mag you can push a bullet over 5000fps.

I bet those are easy on fur! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: Hawgdawg on January 17, 2014, 06:14:51 PM: Thanks for all the impute but still no answer to my question. And if the are band he needs to know how to get rid of them with out a major fed. goat you know what!
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: Bofire on January 17, 2014, 06:25:45 PM: There is no "ban" they just were not accurate, did not sell, so are not made.
Carl
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: BiggLuke on January 17, 2014, 07:18:54 PM: Quote from: snowpack on January 14, 2014, 09:45:49 AM
I think it came off the market because of demand. Varmint guys tend to like rifles that are really accurate. Accelerator in my experience wasn't quite good enough for things like yotes and birds. I just used a .223 or a .22-250 instead.
:yeah:

I found in my own experience that these rounds were crap for accuracy.
seriously got 6-8" groups at 100yards.
I bet people stopped buying them for this reason alone.
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: yorketransport on January 17, 2014, 09:09:20 PM: Quote from: Bofire on January 17, 2014, 06:25:45 PM
There is no "ban" they just were not accurate, did not sell, so are not made.
Carl
:yeah:
If there was any concern about the bullets not having rifling on them, they would also ban sabot shotgun rounds and probably muzzle loader sabots as well.

Anrew
Title: Re: possible banned ammo
Post by: Hawgdawg on January 17, 2014, 09:14:40 PM: So all reply's are from expects and I will pass the info on. Thanks.