Post by: mountainman on January 16, 2014, 11:46:42 AM
Post by: mrolen on January 16, 2014, 11:49:17 AM
Post by: huntandjeep on January 16, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 16, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
May take off, may fall flat on its face. It's definitely a nitch shooter group their targeting. I like it and I like Nosler products.
Post by: huntnphool on January 16, 2014, 12:36:10 PM
Post by: mountainman on January 16, 2014, 12:39:41 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 16, 2014, 12:41:44 PM
Anyone know which case it is based on?
I'd be curious to know too. Looks like a deady weapon at 3,300 with 140 grains but I can't imagine I'd ever be tempted.
Post by: huntnphool on January 16, 2014, 12:51:44 PM
Must be similar to the 6.5x284 or maybe the 6.5x47 LapuaAnyone know which case it is based on?
I'd be curious to know too. Looks like a deady weapon at 3,300 with 140 grains but I can't imagine I'd ever be tempted.
Post by: mountainman on January 16, 2014, 01:15:17 PM
Post by: grundy53 on January 16, 2014, 01:29:02 PM
Anyone know which case it is based on?.404 Jeffrey
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Post by: Jonathan_S on January 16, 2014, 01:58:46 PM
The ones I get excited about are the new .17s and the .460 S&W and things that are out-of-the-box like that. Not to hate on the .26 Nosler.
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 16, 2014, 03:56:11 PM
Post by: mountainman on January 16, 2014, 04:24:50 PM
;)
Post by: high country on January 16, 2014, 04:33:12 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 16, 2014, 05:44:57 PM
Post by: high country on January 16, 2014, 07:47:04 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 16, 2014, 08:21:29 PM
Remington could have changed the game with a 6.5 SAUM. .......it would have been "it" in my eyes.
Yep, I prefer the WSM case and allot of guys are shooting the 6.5-.300 or the 6.5-.270 WSM. Both generally refered to as the 6.5 WSM, same case other than bullet diameter. The way Remington handled the SAUM, Winchester walked all over them with the WSM line of cartridges. If Remington would have come out of the gate with the 6.5 SAUM, you're right. It would be a completly different playing field now.
I can't understand why Winchester with such success over the years with the WSM line of cartridges didn't add a 6.5 WSM to the line up???? With the popularity and performance of the 6.5 chamberings out there, they would be foolish not to.
Post by: yorketransport on January 16, 2014, 08:55:38 PM
Whatever case they used, it should be a pretty cool round with the proper barrel. That's one caliber which really needs to be in a nitrided barrel!
Andrew
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 17, 2014, 08:01:28 AM
I like what I'm hearing about it but I guess I would rather stick to the .270 & .300 WSM among others before I payed $1.6K for that rifle.
Post by: whacker1 on January 17, 2014, 08:14:42 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 17, 2014, 08:18:33 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 17, 2014, 08:19:23 AM
Post by: Skillet on January 17, 2014, 08:23:32 AM
My opinion, and only my opinion is that there are already too many cartridges out there, and in the present state of the economy, there is not enough disposable income for a new cartridge of any kind to take off. In short, I think it will die. :twocents:I don't think these Nosler is trying to appeal to 1 or 2 gun guys. This is a hotrod targeted at a narrow niche of shooters and hunters. It has a wow factor, that's for sure. Enough to sustain it? :dunno:
Anybody get a spec on the barrel length of that Patriot rifle? Looked like a long tube in the video.
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 17, 2014, 10:07:28 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 17, 2014, 10:12:45 AM
Post by: kentrek on January 17, 2014, 10:33:45 AM
:chuckle:
Post by: Curly on January 17, 2014, 10:35:35 AM
Post by: high country on January 17, 2014, 02:24:16 PM
Remington could have changed the game with a 6.5 SAUM. .......it would have been "it" in my eyes.
Yep, I prefer the WSM case and allot of guys are shooting the 6.5-.300 or the 6.5-.270 WSM. Both generally refered to as the 6.5 WSM, same case other than bullet diameter. The way Remington handled the SAUM, Winchester walked all over them with the WSM line of cartridges. If Remington would have come out of the gate with the 6.5 SAUM, you're right. It would be a completly different playing field now.
I can't understand why Winchester with such success over the years with the WSM line of cartridges didn't add a 6.5 WSM to the line up???? With the popularity and performance of the 6.5 chamberings out there, they would be foolish not to.
I generally agree that the wsm case is superior, but the saum would afford loading to the lands with a 142smk and not need box work.....I love using box work in a sentence.
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 17, 2014, 04:22:25 PM
Remington could have changed the game with a 6.5 SAUM. .......it would have been "it" in my eyes.
Yep, I prefer the WSM case and allot of guys are shooting the 6.5-.300 or the 6.5-.270 WSM. Both generally refered to as the 6.5 WSM, same case other than bullet diameter. The way Remington handled the SAUM, Winchester walked all over them with the WSM line of cartridges. If Remington would have come out of the gate with the 6.5 SAUM, you're right. It would be a completly different playing field now.
I can't understand why Winchester with such success over the years with the WSM line of cartridges didn't add a 6.5 WSM to the line up???? With the popularity and performance of the 6.5 chamberings out there, they would be foolish not to.
I generally agree that the wsm case is superior, but the saum would afford loading to the lands with a 142smk and not need box work.....I love using box work in a sentence.
Box work is important! Some boxes are fine and some really need worked over. :tup:
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 17, 2014, 04:30:53 PM
26 nosler +160 grain matrix bullet = happy kentrek
:chuckle:
I haven't had a chance to try the 160gr 6.5 Matrix, I would really like to. I've shot allot of the 7mm 190gr Matrix and they are wicked accurate. Haven't had a chance to take any game with them but I don't see them performing any different on game than Berger match VLD or Sierra MK which I have used both on Mule deer.
Post by: rbros on January 17, 2014, 04:43:51 PM
Still on the fence with the 26 Nosler. Will be interesting to see what handloaders can get out of it.
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 17, 2014, 04:50:44 PM
I like the idea of a factory rifle being chambered in such a cartridge without having to go the custom route.
Post by: mountainman on January 17, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 17, 2014, 05:21:21 PM
Post by: superdown on January 17, 2014, 05:47:30 PM
It just seems like its awful close to the 6.5 WSM in velocity but with quite a bit more case capacity. I had a reamer done for a 6.5-.338 Ultra Magnum 40%. I haven't chambered anything with it yet but in hind sight it's past the point of diminishing returns. Once you get past that certain point your burning allot of powder for little velocity gain, allot more heat and wear on a barrel.What does the 40% mean?
I like the idea of a factory rifle being chambered in such a cartridge without having to go the custom route.
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 17, 2014, 06:05:52 PM
It just seems like its awful close to the 6.5 WSM in velocity but with quite a bit more case capacity. I had a reamer done for a 6.5-.338 Ultra Magnum 40%. I haven't chambered anything with it yet but in hind sight it's past the point of diminishing returns. Once you get past that certain point your burning allot of powder for little velocity gain, allot more heat and wear on a barrel.What does the 40% mean?
I like the idea of a factory rifle being chambered in such a cartridge without having to go the custom route.
Typo 40 degree, as in shoulder.
Post by: Wea300mag on January 17, 2014, 06:17:00 PM
Post by: superdown on January 17, 2014, 06:20:32 PM
got it :)It just seems like its awful close to the 6.5 WSM in velocity but with quite a bit more case capacity. I had a reamer done for a 6.5-.338 Ultra Magnum 40%. I haven't chambered anything with it yet but in hind sight it's past the point of diminishing returns. Once you get past that certain point your burning allot of powder for little velocity gain, allot more heat and wear on a barrel.What does the 40% mean?
I like the idea of a factory rifle being chambered in such a cartridge without having to go the custom route.
Typo 40 degree, as in shoulder.
Post by: yorketransport on January 17, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
It sure looks interesting, but at $1600, I'll pass for now.
While $1600 isn't cheap, that's about what it would cost to build something similar. From start to finish, that's usually what it has cost me to build a gun in a wildcat caliber if quality components are used. Figure $500 for an action (after having it tweaked and tuned), $400 for a barrel (there's a lot of range here from $200-600), $175-200 for a custom reamer and headspace gage, then $400+ for a stock. Tack on another couple hundred if a smith puts it together for you.
I honestly think that they may be a few years late with this round. If this had been out 3 years ago it would have been huge. I feel like more people are using the 7mm for hunting now and the 6.5 sees more use as a target round. This seems a bit over the top as a dedicated long range "plinker" and a little on the light side for a long range hunter.
Andrew
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 17, 2014, 09:11:05 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 17, 2014, 09:33:51 PM
1600.00 will get you a long ways in the custom dept if you've been around the block.
Or it will get you nowhere if you start with action like a Bat or Barnard! Throw a nitrided Benchmark barrel on there and you're already over $2K.
Maybe I should see if I can build a gun with comparable performance for less than $800.
Andrew
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 17, 2014, 09:49:22 PM
1600.00 will get you a long ways in the custom dept if you've been around the block.
Or it will get you nowhere if you start with action like a Bat or Barnard! Throw a nitrided Benchmark barrel on there and you're already over $2K.
Maybe I should see if I can build a gun with comparable performance for less than $800.
Andrew
Work your Savage magic Yorke!👍
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 19, 2014, 11:43:54 AM
Post by: yorketransport on January 19, 2014, 05:11:31 PM
I still think it's trying to find a niche in an already overcrowded market! :twocents:
You're absolutely right. That doesn't make it any less interesting though. :tup: It's no different than cars though. You can drive a Ford Fiesta, or an Audi R8. They both get you there, one's just a little more fun! :chuckle: Most people settle for something more in the middle though. The 26 Nosler isn't the best option in the 6.5 class, but it's a lot more interesting than a 6.5x53 Rimmed!
Andrew
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 19, 2014, 08:47:25 PM
I still think it's trying to find a niche in an already overcrowded market! :twocents:
You're absolutely right. That doesn't make it any less interesting though. :tup: It's no different than cars though. You can drive a Ford Fiesta, or an Audi R8. They both get you there, one's just a little more fun! :chuckle: Most people settle for something more in the middle though. The 26 Nosler isn't the best option in the 6.5 class, but it's a lot more interesting than a 6.5x53 Rimmed!
Andrew
If you want one, by all means get it! Just make sure if you do, to buy up all the ammo you will ever need, just in case it becomes unavailable. Or find out what case it was based on so you can make your own brass. Look what happened to the 17 HMR vs. the 17 HM2. Try finding 17 HM2 ammo...
Post by: actionshooter on January 19, 2014, 10:21:58 PM
Ya, but the biggest problem there is the difficulty of reloading the Mach2......:)I still think it's trying to find a niche in an already overcrowded market! :twocents:
You're absolutely right. That doesn't make it any less interesting though. :tup: It's no different than cars though. You can drive a Ford Fiesta, or an Audi R8. They both get you there, one's just a little more fun! :chuckle: Most people settle for something more in the middle though. The 26 Nosler isn't the best option in the 6.5 class, but it's a lot more interesting than a 6.5x53 Rimmed!
Andrew
If you want one, by all means get it! Just make sure if you do, to buy up all the ammo you will ever need, just in case it becomes unavailable. Or find out what case it was based on so you can make your own brass. Look what happened to the 17 HMR vs. the 17 HM2. Try finding 17 HM2 ammo...
Post by: yorketransport on January 20, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
Ya, but the biggest problem there is the difficulty of reloading the Mach2......:):chuckle:
I'd be willing to bet that the 26 Nosler is either a Ruger case or Dakota case. Both of those are pretty easy to come by. At least at the moment. I already have a few hundred Ruger cases, so if that's the parent brass I'm good to go! :tup:
Andrew
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 20, 2014, 06:37:28 PM
Post by: mountainman on January 20, 2014, 08:41:29 PM
Gonna have to build on myself I think!I still think it's trying to find a niche in an already overcrowded market! :twocents:
You're absolutely right. That doesn't make it any less interesting though. :tup: It's no different than cars though. You can drive a Ford Fiesta, or an Audi R8. They both get you there, one's just a little more fun! :chuckle: Most people settle for something more in the middle though. The 26 Nosler isn't the best option in the 6.5 class, but it's a lot more interesting than a 6.5x53 Rimmed!
Andrew
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 20, 2014, 08:56:59 PM
Post by: mountainman on January 20, 2014, 09:02:33 PM
Yup, thinking Dakota also! Split the reamer with ya?! ;)Ya, but the biggest problem there is the difficulty of reloading the Mach2......:):chuckle:
I'd be willing to bet that the 26 Nosler is either a Ruger case or Dakota case. Both of those are pretty easy to come by. At least at the moment. I already have a few hundred Ruger cases, so if that's the parent brass I'm good to go! :tup:
Andrew
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 26, 2014, 02:15:53 PM
Here's the kicker for the Nosler 26 fans. $3.16 +/- , give or take a little per case/piece of brass for reloading.
65.99 per 25 pieces at MidWay plus 12.00-15.00 shipping( Not available until April). Awesome👍! You have to pay to play with this one.
There's already Wildcat reamers available at PTG. 25- 26 Nosler, 7mm, .375, 30 Cal. Noslers going to make the barrel makers happy with this one, people are going to Wildcat the heck out of it.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/473340/nosler-custom-reloading-brass-26-nosler-box-of-25 (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/473340/nosler-custom-reloading-brass-26-nosler-box-of-25)
Chuck Hawks(26 Nosler)
http://www.chuckhawks.com/26Nosler.htm (http://www.chuckhawks.com/26Nosler.htm)
Hmmmm. Looks longer than the .264 Win Mag case to me, Chuck describes it as the same length? Either way, it's going to seriously pound and ground some game.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fphoto_zps239825f9.jpg&hash=bcc8ba9990ef3d1b254163ab90eadd30f40274c9) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/photo_zps239825f9.jpg.html)
Post by: bobcat on February 26, 2014, 02:27:18 PM
Post by: Curly on February 26, 2014, 02:42:35 PM
I don't see the reason for the new cartridge. Why wouldn't someone just get a 270 or 7mm Ultra Mag?
Or a .264 WM?
Or 6.5-06 or a 6.5-06 AI or 6.5 WSM (these last three are not factory, but brass would be easy to come by for the 6.5-06's and not too hard for the WSM. :dunno:
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 26, 2014, 02:50:59 PM
Post by: whacker1 on February 26, 2014, 02:56:07 PM
A 6.5 WSM will push a 130gr bullet at 3400. :tup:
Would this nosler require a long action?
Post by: kentrek on February 26, 2014, 02:58:53 PM
I don't see the reason for the new cartridge. Why wouldn't someone just get a 270 or 7mm Ultra Mag?
Because with bigger diameter bullets need a heavier grain weight to achieve the same bc as a 6.5 diameter bullet...for long rang stuff your pretty much looking at a 160 gr for the 6.5, a169 for the 270,a 190-200 grain for the 7mm
These are all 2000 yard set ups except that 6.5 nosler would be a lot more "shoot-able" than a 7-338 lapua
So in short it's built to give long rang guys a new toy to play with :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on February 26, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
Doesn't sound like a very fun toy since I couldn't afford to shoot it. But I guess some guys can.
Even then wouldn't they want something they could shoot three times as much for the same cost?
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 26, 2014, 03:09:19 PM
A 6.5 WSM will push a 130gr bullet at 3400. :tup:
Would this nosler require a long action?
The 26 Nosler requires a long action, the 6.5 Winchester Short mag AKA.. 6.5-300 WSM/ 6.5-.270 WSM works on a short action.
Post by: whacker1 on February 26, 2014, 03:11:30 PM
A 6.5 WSM will push a 130gr bullet at 3400. :tup:
Would this nosler require a long action?
The 26 Nosler requires a long action, the 6.5 Winchester Short mag AKA.. 6.5-300 WSM/ 6.5-.270 WSM works on a short action.
6.5 x 284 still a long action also, correct?
Post by: kentrek on February 26, 2014, 03:13:57 PM
Even then wouldn't they want something they could shoot three times as much for the same cost?
If your using the 26nosler to its full potential than the other competing cartridges are going to be similar price per shot if not more since everything else will most likely use more powder per pop
Post by: grundy53 on February 26, 2014, 03:14:11 PM
But it could potentially cost $5 or $6 every time you pull the trigger? :yike:There are already quite a few cartridges that are that expensive to shoot. Including the 7mm ultra mag you mentioned. The great thing about free enterprise is the rule of supply and demand. Demand will tell if this cartridge is needed or not.
Doesn't sound like a very fun toy since I couldn't afford to shoot it. But I guess some guys can.
Even then wouldn't they want something they could shoot three times as much for the same cost?
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Post by: mountainman on February 26, 2014, 03:25:05 PM
:tup:I don't see the reason for the new cartridge. Why wouldn't someone just get a 270 or 7mm Ultra Mag?
Because with bigger diameter bullets need a heavier grain weight to achieve the same bc as a 6.5 diameter bullet...for long rang stuff your pretty much looking at a 160 gr for the 6.5, a169 for the 270,a 190-200 grain for the 7mm
These are all 2000 yard set ups except that 6.5 nosler would be a lot more "shoot-able" than a 7-338 lapua
So in short it's built to give long rang guys a new toy to play with :chuckle:
Post by: bearpaw on February 26, 2014, 03:42:17 PM
They say the cartridge works in a standard length action like a 30/06. How hard to rebarrel a rifle to work with this cartridge?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 26, 2014, 04:05:54 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 26, 2014, 04:52:37 PM
It looks like ammo should be getting shipped out in the next week or 2 and brass in about a month. I have got a call in to my friend to place a order. I will try to get a rifle release date and get some hard numbers when I hear back from him.
Great! :tup: I tried calling them twice today. I have no patients in the " On hold " department. I'll try again in the morning. I just need 5 or so cases to get my project rolling. My CEB ESP Raptor bullets should be here Friday.
Post by: kentrek on February 26, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
Interesting, can you get 100 grain Barnes bullets in this caliber?
They say the cartridge works in a standard length action like a 30/06. How hard to rebarrel a rifle to work with this cartridge?
fast barnes guy eh ? Lol i think they make a 120 which would be a rocket ot of this case...an it shouldnt be any issue at all to build a barrel to run a lighter bullet in this case
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 26, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
Post by: bearpaw on February 26, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
Interesting, can you get 100 grain Barnes bullets in this caliber?
They say the cartridge works in a standard length action like a 30/06. How hard to rebarrel a rifle to work with this cartridge?
fast barnes guy eh ? Lol i think they make a 120 which would be a rocket ot of this case...an it shouldnt be any issue at all to build a barrel to run a lighter bullet in this case
I do like fast and flat ammo when hunting. Barnes make a 100 TTSX, 120 TTSX, and 127 LRX in the 6.5, should be extra fast and flat. I was looking to see if anyone had reamers yet, couldn't find any in stock. I might be willing to split reamer cost with a couple guys if anyone is interested.
Post by: mountainman on February 26, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
sure we will be building a few 26 Nosler in the next year! We could definetly split the cost! Im am in your next of the woods quite often to do the swapping! :)Interesting, can you get 100 grain Barnes bullets in this caliber?
They say the cartridge works in a standard length action like a 30/06. How hard to rebarrel a rifle to work with this cartridge?
fast barnes guy eh ? Lol i think they make a 120 which would be a rocket ot of this case...an it shouldnt be any issue at all to build a barrel to run a lighter bullet in this case
I do like fast and flat ammo when hunting. Barnes make a 100 TTSX, 120 TTSX, and 127 LRX in the 6.5, should be extra fast and flat. I was looking to see if anyone had reamers yet, couldn't find any in stock. I might be willing to split reamer cost with a couple guys if anyone is interested.
Post by: bearpaw on February 26, 2014, 07:36:32 PM
sure we will be building a few 26 Nosler in the next year! We could definetly split the cost! Im am in your next of the woods quite often to do the swapping! :)Interesting, can you get 100 grain Barnes bullets in this caliber?
They say the cartridge works in a standard length action like a 30/06. How hard to rebarrel a rifle to work with this cartridge?
fast barnes guy eh ? Lol i think they make a 120 which would be a rocket ot of this case...an it shouldnt be any issue at all to build a barrel to run a lighter bullet in this case
I do like fast and flat ammo when hunting. Barnes make a 100 TTSX, 120 TTSX, and 127 LRX in the 6.5, should be extra fast and flat. I was looking to see if anyone had reamers yet, couldn't find any in stock. I might be willing to split reamer cost with a couple guys if anyone is interested.
I'm thinking of purchasing a stainless magnum rifle and swapping barrels. Depending who does your rifles/barrels maybe I would have the same smith do a barrel swap for me.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 26, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
Post by: mountainman on February 26, 2014, 07:57:40 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 26, 2014, 08:08:20 PM
Post by: mountainman on February 26, 2014, 08:12:59 PM
sure we will be building a few 26 Nosler in the next year! We could definetly split the cost! Im am in your next of the woods quite often to do the swapping! :)Interesting, can you get 100 grain Barnes bullets in this caliber?
They say the cartridge works in a standard length action like a 30/06. How hard to rebarrel a rifle to work with this cartridge?
fast barnes guy eh ? Lol i think they make a 120 which would be a rocket ot of this case...an it shouldnt be any issue at all to build a barrel to run a lighter bullet in this case
I do like fast and flat ammo when hunting. Barnes make a 100 TTSX, 120 TTSX, and 127 LRX in the 6.5, should be extra fast and flat. I was looking to see if anyone had reamers yet, couldn't find any in stock. I might be willing to split reamer cost with a couple guys if anyone is interested.
I'm thinking of purchasing a stainless magnum rifle and swapping barrels. Depending who does your rifles/barrels maybe I would have the same smith do a barrel swap for me. Can do! :tup:
Post by: yorketransport on February 26, 2014, 08:21:55 PM
How much is a reamer?
About $150. Reamers are pretty cheap.
You know what they call the 26 Nosler necked up to 7mm, 30 and 338? The Dakota cases! :chuckle: Necked up to 375 and you've recreated the 375 Ruger!
Since it looks like this is based on 404 brass, any belted mag rifle could be rechambered with a little work on the magazine to get it to feed. The Dakota case is just a little too wide to feed without some work.
Now I need to order the 6.5-375 Ruger reamer to see if I can match or beat the Nosler with less expensive and more available brass. The Nosler has a theoretical capacity advantage of 2.5 grains when using similar OAL. They should be pretty close.
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 26, 2014, 09:06:16 PM
Post by: Curly on February 27, 2014, 06:15:27 AM
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 27, 2014, 07:38:07 AM
Post by: Curly on February 27, 2014, 07:48:49 AM
For a guy that simply wants a hunting rifle and wants a speed demon in 6.5mm, then other choices might make sense..........like the 6.5-06AI, 6.5WSM, or .264WM.
Post by: whacker1 on February 27, 2014, 07:54:43 AM
Post by: bearpaw on February 27, 2014, 08:47:32 AM
Handy Ballistics Calculator: http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj_simp-5.1.cgi (http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj_simp-5.1.cgi)
Post by: Hornseeker on February 27, 2014, 08:53:59 AM
Thing outta have a sweet bc right?
Personally, I love all the new round development... I"ll probs never own most of them, but its fun to look at and dream about! Then I pick up my 06' and just go hunting... :chuckle:
Post by: WoodlandShooter on February 27, 2014, 09:05:39 AM
How fast might it push that 160 gr pill you guys speak of?
Thing outta have a sweet bc right?
Personally, I love all the new round development... I"ll probs never own most of them, but its fun to look at and dream about! Then I pick up my 06' and just go hunting... :chuckle:
well, advertized for a 140 grain bullet is 3300 fps, so keeping muzzle energy at a constant (~3385 foot pounds), then a 160 grain bullet would need ~3085 FPS
Per Matrix,
Caliber Inches: .264
Weight, grains: 160
G1 BC .685
1-8 twist
This bullet would be supersonic to 1685 yards in standard conditions!! 15.9 mils of drop with a 200 yard zero!!
For comparison, my 270 winny with the 165 matrix @ 2850 goes subsonic at 1400 yards on a standard day, has 2976 foot pounds at the muzzle and needs 14.8 mils at that range
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 27, 2014, 09:14:18 AM
The handloader is going to be able to push the velocities allot harder than published data/ factory ammo. Speed is a big factor.
Post by: rbros on February 27, 2014, 10:07:05 AM
Post by: yorketransport on February 27, 2014, 05:14:53 PM
Looks like we will be playing with a couple of these as well for customer builds. Will be interesting to see how it compares to the 6.5/338 RUM's that we have done in the past. Barrel life was the problem with them, but barrels are a consumable component. I run the 160's in my 264WM now at 3200, 140's at 3300, so it will be interesting to see what handloading the Nosler will do. Still going to be short on barrel life, but thats the tradeoff.
What sort of barrel life were you seeing? I've heard it range from 400 to 1000.
I'd feel better about this round if nosler brass were a bit stronger. I haven't been impressed with the nosler brass I've tried in 300 RUM, 6.5x284, or 243.
Andrew
Post by: rbros on February 28, 2014, 08:15:36 AM
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 28, 2014, 09:15:59 AM
https://shop.pacifictoolandgauge.com/index.php?main_page=products_new&disp_order=6&page=2&zenid=9b8fmrucfu2eamg81uc57f6282
Post by: rbros on February 28, 2014, 09:24:52 AM
Their already all over Wildcatting it. But the other versions, like mentioned before. Will basically mimic other wildcats already available, based on the Dakota and Ruger cases. :rolleyes:
https://shop.pacifictoolandgauge.com/index.php?main_page=products_new&disp_order=6&page=2&zenid=9b8fmrucfu2eamg81uc57f6282
Yup, have a 7mm reamer version on order as well for a customer. ;) He wants a matched pair of rifles, one in 26 nosler and one in 7mm nosler.
Post by: bearpaw on March 01, 2014, 11:22:57 AM