Post by: TMortensen on January 22, 2014, 05:25:31 PM
Post by: deerdog on January 22, 2014, 05:35:31 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 22, 2014, 05:36:40 PM
So what would you do? Going into the 2014 season I'll have 15pts each for the OIL tags, I know the chances are slim for drawing a tag but I'm in that realm of average pts drawn for all the species. So does a guy apply for all of them hoping to draw one or does he pick one for the next several years in hopes of drawing that tag and keep applying for pts with the others. I've been pts only up to this point, and thinking now would be a good time to put my name in the hat. What are your thoughts?As unlikely as you are to draw either of the tags, its even more unlikely that you would ever draw more than one the same year, Dobby being the exception.
That said, you would be crazy to sit out one, while expecting to draw one of the others. :twocents:
Post by: jackmaster on January 22, 2014, 05:39:39 PM
:yeah:So what would you do? Going into the 2014 season I'll have 15pts each for the OIL tags, I know the chances are slim for drawing a tag but I'm in that realm of average pts drawn for all the species. So does a guy apply for all of them hoping to draw one or does he pick one for the next several years in hopes of drawing that tag and keep applying for pts with the others. I've been pts only up to this point, and thinking now would be a good time to put my name in the hat. What are your thoughts?As unlikely as you are to draw either of the tags, its even more unlikely that you would ever draw more than one the same year, Dobby being the exception.
That said, you would be crazy to sit out one, while expecting to draw one of the others. :twocents:
Post by: huntnphool on January 22, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
So what would you do? Going into the 2014 season I'll have 15pts each for the OIL tags, I know the chances are slim for drawing a tag but I'm in that realm of average pts drawn for all the species. So does a guy apply for all of them hoping to draw one or does he pick one for the next several years in hopes of drawing that tag and keep applying for pts with the others. I've been pts only up to this point, and thinking now would be a good time to put my name in the hat. What are your thoughts?One more thing, the odds of EVER drawing one of these tags in a lifetime is poor to begin with, waiting 15 years and only going for points is the same as throwing away 15 years worth of at least a slim chance in that lifetime, so get in the fight. :tup:
But by all means keep going the point option, I don't need the extra competition. ;) :chuckle:
Post by: jackmaster on January 22, 2014, 05:46:51 PM
Post by: TMortensen on January 22, 2014, 05:47:45 PM
But by all means keep going the point option, I don't need the extra competition. ;) :chuckle:
I did the points option for most years because life happens, kids, new jobs, finances, drew tags in other states etc. if ya'll know what I mean.
Post by: huntnphool on January 22, 2014, 05:49:46 PM
I did the points option for most years because life happens, kids, new jobs, finances, drew tags in other states etc. if ya'll know what I mean.:tup:
Post by: TMortensen on January 22, 2014, 05:49:59 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 22, 2014, 05:51:24 PM
Can you imagine drawing all three in a season. Guess I better start praying that happens huh? :chuckle:Dobby drew moose and goat the same year a few years back. :yike:
Post by: BENCHLEG on January 22, 2014, 07:32:20 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 22, 2014, 07:47:42 PM
Post by: jkononen on January 22, 2014, 07:54:29 PM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on January 22, 2014, 08:15:20 PM
Is there a thread with peoples points on here? I wonder who has the most and never drawn.
Post by: NOCK NOCK on January 23, 2014, 08:53:28 PM
Post by: bradslam on January 24, 2014, 09:57:56 AM
I do know someone who got drawn for moose and sheep in the same year, but the odds of that happening are astronomical. Besides, what a problem to have.
Post by: hardrichard on January 24, 2014, 05:47:37 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 24, 2014, 05:53:34 PM
In the 15 years you've been applying, you could have drawn one by now. Or more than one if you're really lucky. Odds are so low you really don't have the luxury of waiting until the "right" time to actually apply. It's great that you have those points but you'll never draw if you don't try.
Post by: j_h_nimrod on January 24, 2014, 06:14:06 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 24, 2014, 06:19:59 PM
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Is there a thread with peoples points on here? I wonder who has the most and never drawn.
I know many people have 18 points for moose, sheep, and goats. I'm at 17 for moose, don't know how I did it, but somehow I missed one year. Sheep I'm around 15 points since I gave up on that one since the application and tag prices went up. Odds are too low and not worth wasting the money every year, in my opinion.
Post by: sled on January 24, 2014, 06:25:59 PM
:yeah:So what would you do? Going into the 2014 season I'll have 15pts each for the OIL tags, I know the chances are slim for drawing a tag but I'm in that realm of average pts drawn for all the species. So does a guy apply for all of them hoping to draw one or does he pick one for the next several years in hopes of drawing that tag and keep applying for pts with the others. I've been pts only up to this point, and thinking now would be a good time to put my name in the hat. What are your thoughts?One more thing, the odds of EVER drawing one of these tags in a lifetime is poor to begin with, waiting 15 years and only going for points is the same as throwing away 15 years worth of at least a slim chance in that lifetime, so get in the fight. :tup:
But by all means keep going the point option, I don't need the extra competition. ;) :chuckle:
Post by: GurrCentral on January 24, 2014, 06:31:08 PM
QuoteIs there a thread with peoples points on here? I wonder who has the most and never drawn.
I know many people have 18 points for moose, sheep, and goats. I'm at 17 for moose, don't know how I did it, but somehow I missed one year. Sheep I'm around 15 points since I gave up on that one since the application and tag prices went up. Odds are too low and not worth wasting the money every year, in my opinion.
Even with the odds, you'll never get drawn if you don't put in....you never know....
Post by: bobcat on January 24, 2014, 06:51:46 PM
QuoteIs there a thread with peoples points on here? I wonder who has the most and never drawn.
I know many people have 18 points for moose, sheep, and goats. I'm at 17 for moose, don't know how I did it, but somehow I missed one year. Sheep I'm around 15 points since I gave up on that one since the application and tag prices went up. Odds are too low and not worth wasting the money every year, in my opinion.
Even with the odds, you'll never get drawn if you don't put in....you never know....
I agree, and if I was made of money I sure would be applying for sheep. But I had to cut back somewhere and that's one I didn't mind giving up on. The tag is $330 if you get drawn. That's too much for me. I'd rather spend $330 on an out of state deer tag.
Post by: j_h_nimrod on January 25, 2014, 08:57:04 AM
QuoteIs there a thread with peoples points on here? I wonder who has the most and never drawn.
I know many people have 18 points for moose, sheep, and goats. I'm at 17 for moose, don't know how I did it, but somehow I missed one year. Sheep I'm around 15 points since I gave up on that one since the application and tag prices went up. Odds are too low and not worth wasting the money every year, in my opinion.
Even with the odds, you'll never get drawn if you don't put in....you never know....
I agree, and if I was made of money I sure would be applying for sheep. But I had to cut back somewhere and that's one I didn't mind giving up on. The tag is $330 if you get drawn. That's too much for me. I'd rather spend $330 on an out of state deer tag.
You have to figure that if you keep putting in until you have 50 pts and eventually draw it would still cost you under $1000. That is about the cheapest sheep tag you you can get.
Moose on the other hand is not real high on my priority list. I would like the meat but it is something you can get for a fairly reasonable price whenever you want.
Just my :twocents:
Post by: GurrCentral on March 20, 2014, 08:39:45 PM
QuoteIs there a thread with peoples points on here? I wonder who has the most and never drawn.
I know many people have 18 points for moose, sheep, and goats. I'm at 17 for moose, don't know how I did it, but somehow I missed one year. Sheep I'm around 15 points since I gave up on that one since the application and tag prices went up. Odds are too low and not worth wasting the money every year, in my opinion.
Even with the odds, you'll never get drawn if you don't put in....you never know....
I agree, and if I was made of money I sure would be applying for sheep. But I had to cut back somewhere and that's one I didn't mind giving up on. The tag is $330 if you get drawn. That's too much for me. I'd rather spend $330 on an out of state deer tag.
You won't pay $330 for a sheep tag, but you will for a moose?
Post by: bobcat on March 20, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
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You won't pay $330 for a sheep tag, but you will for a moose?
Sure, how much meat do you get off a moose? 400 pounds? A sheep, probably less than 100. Just guessing, but I'm probably close.
Plus, not to mention, as bad as the odds are of drawing a moose tag, drawing a sheep tag is ten times harder. So you're never going to draw and all you're doing is donating $14 to the state every year.
And might I add, they will use the money you donated on the propagation of wolves and they will eat our moose and sheep, therefore forcing a decrease in hunting permits and lowering your odds of drawing even more!
Post by: Biggerhammer on March 20, 2014, 09:04:57 PM
QuoteYou won't pay $330 for a sheep tag, but you will for a moose?
Sure, how much meat do you get off a moose? 400 pounds? A sheep, probably less than 100. Just guessing, but I'm probably close.
Plus, not to mention, as bad as the odds are of drawing a moose tag, drawing a sheep tag is ten times harder. So you're never going to draw and all you're doing is donating $14 to the state every year.
And might I add, they will use the money you donated on the propagation of wolves and they will eat our moose and sheep, therefore forcing a decrease in hunting permits and lowering your odds of drawing even more!
Awesome!!!
Post by: Bob33 on March 20, 2014, 09:10:35 PM
Post by: GurrCentral on March 20, 2014, 09:24:39 PM
QuoteYou won't pay $330 for a sheep tag, but you will for a moose?
Sure, how much meat do you get off a moose? 400 pounds? A sheep, probably less than 100. Just guessing, but I'm probably close.
Plus, not to mention, as bad as the odds are of drawing a moose tag, drawing a sheep tag is ten times harder. So you're never going to draw and all you're doing is donating $14 to the state every year.
And might I add, they will use the money you donated on the propagation of wolves and they will eat our moose and sheep, therefore forcing a decrease in hunting permits and lowering your odds of drawing even more!
Well, as someone who has been drawn for both sheep and moose in WA....I think a positive attitude helps the karma with drawing..... and less than 100 lbs off of a sheep??? Your pretty close on the moose.
Post by: bobcat on March 20, 2014, 09:31:21 PM
It hasn't worked yet. :'(
So, how much boneless meat did you end up with off your sheep?
Post by: GurrCentral on March 20, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
Post by: huntnphool on March 20, 2014, 11:50:26 PM
Then guys like ridgerunner that have drawn two of the three already.
Post by: 180-GRAIN on March 21, 2014, 07:40:38 AM
So what would you do? Going into the 2014 season I'll have 15pts each for the OIL tags, I know the chances are slim for drawing a tag but I'm in that realm of average pts drawn for all the species. So does a guy apply for all of them hoping to draw one or does he pick one for the next several years in hopes of drawing that tag and keep applying for pts with the others. I've been pts only up to this point, and thinking now would be a good time to put my name in the hat. What are your thoughts?One more thing, the odds of EVER drawing one of these tags in a lifetime is poor to begin with, waiting 15 years and only going for points is the same as throwing away 15 years worth of at least a slim chance in that lifetime, so get in the fight. :tup:
I agree don't sit a year out put in for all 3 species every year, if you don't apply you cant get drawn. I beat the odds in 09 and drew moose with 7 points so in my opinion there really are no accurate draw odds, its just the luck of the draw all the way.
But by all means keep going the point option, I don't need the extra competition. ;) :chuckle:
Post by: hardrichard on April 01, 2014, 09:16:20 PM
Post by: GurrCentral on April 01, 2014, 10:31:54 PM
Post by: huntnnw on April 01, 2014, 10:43:20 PM
QuoteIs there a thread with peoples points on here? I wonder who has the most and never drawn.
I know many people have 18 points for moose, sheep, and goats. I'm at 17 for moose, don't know how I did it, but somehow I missed one year. Sheep I'm around 15 points since I gave up on that one since the application and tag prices went up. Odds are too low and not worth wasting the money every year, in my opinion.
Even with the odds, you'll never get drawn if you don't put in....you never know....
I agree, and if I was made of money I sure would be applying for sheep. But I had to cut back somewhere and that's one I didn't mind giving up on. The tag is $330 if you get drawn. That's too much for me. I'd rather spend $330 on an out of state deer tag.
You have to figure that if you keep putting in until you have 50 pts and eventually draw it would still cost you under $1000. That is about the cheapest sheep tag you you can get.
Moose on the other hand is not real high on my priority list. I would like the meat but it is something you can get for a fairly reasonable price whenever you want.
Just my :twocents:
Moose fairly resonable? not in the lower 48 and your left with Canada which is $6k minimum and AK will be right up there on a DIY self hunt with all the travel, gear, tags and not to include its not a gimmie in AK
Post by: Claymore15 on April 02, 2014, 08:48:47 AM
Post by: bigmacc on April 02, 2014, 07:28:48 PM
Post by: hardrichard on April 03, 2014, 02:59:55 PM
Post by: HUNT on April 03, 2014, 03:15:36 PM
Well I do have a positive attitude every year when I apply for moose. Every single time, in the last 17 years, I was sure that I was going to draw a moose tag.
It hasn't worked yet. :'(
So, how much boneless meat did you end up with off your sheep?
Boneless meat off a sheep is about 75-80 lbs
Post by: Buckmark on April 03, 2014, 03:20:10 PM
Post by: Elkstuffer on April 03, 2014, 06:07:08 PM
Post by: hardrichard on April 06, 2014, 09:22:42 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on April 06, 2014, 11:05:04 AM
Post by: hardrichard on April 21, 2014, 07:32:39 PM
Post by: Falcon on April 21, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
I am at one with 2 Mtn goats taken.
Hope to be at 2 after this season!!!
Post by: actionshooter on April 21, 2014, 09:42:24 PM
Anyone else got or are close to getting the Washington state oil draw hat trick?I know one member here who drew moose, goat and a pumice plain bull tag all in one year, 2008 I believe
Post by: starbailey on April 22, 2014, 10:58:12 AM
Anyone else got or are close to getting the Washington state oil draw hat trick?
I kinda have the hat trick.
Tatoosh goat tag - 2001
Tieton Bighorn tag - 2006
RAFFLE Moose tag - 2013
So I have all 3 WA OIL animals using my moose raffle tag but still have not drawn moose in the "general" draw.
Post by: hardrichard on April 22, 2014, 11:21:35 AM
Post by: hardrichard on April 26, 2014, 10:54:14 PM
Post by: Falcon on April 27, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
Great adventure. Drew another permit in 99 and got another
Nice billy in the corral pass unit. I am a lucky guy👍
Post by: hardrichard on April 27, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on April 29, 2014, 10:16:10 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 29, 2014, 10:26:46 AM
Post by: westside bull on April 29, 2014, 11:33:23 AM
nice goat Bryon!! That used to be the only goat tag I put in for, it looks like the Naches tag doesn't cover that area now! Sucks because I know exactly where I'd go, great country.Why would they change that??
Post by: trophyhunt on April 29, 2014, 01:30:57 PM
I have always assumed they included the corral pass area in that naches tag, the way I read it and followed the direction from the discription last night, it seems corral pass is not in the hunt area. I hope I'm wrong but that's how I read it.nice goat Bryon!! That used to be the only goat tag I put in for, it looks like the Naches tag doesn't cover that area now! Sucks because I know exactly where I'd go, great country.Why would they change that??
Post by: westside bull on April 29, 2014, 02:44:34 PM
Post by: HoofsandWings on May 02, 2014, 06:16:20 PM
There are folks on this site that live in an area where there are moose on their property.
Post by: hardrichard on June 07, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
Post by: GurrCentral on June 12, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
QuoteIs there a thread with peoples points on here? I wonder who has the most and never drawn.
Sheep I'm around 15 points since I gave up on that one since the application and tag prices went up. Odds are too low and not worth wasting the money every year, in my opinion.
Hmmm....
Post by: MtnMuley on June 12, 2014, 03:05:37 PM
QuoteIs there a thread with peoples points on here? I wonder who has the most and never drawn.
I know many people have 18 points for moose, sheep, and goats. I'm at 17 for moose, don't know how I did it, but somehow I missed one year. Sheep I'm around 15 points since I gave up on that one since the application and tag prices went up. Odds are too low and not worth wasting the money every year, in my opinion.
Even with the odds, you'll never get drawn if you don't put in....you never know....
I agree, and if I was made of money I sure would be applying for sheep. But I had to cut back somewhere and that's one I didn't mind giving up on. The tag is $330 if you get drawn. That's too much for me. I'd rather spend $330 on an out of state deer tag.
So........now that you drew the tag the you weren't even putting in for any more, are you going to eat your words and spend the $330 on an out of state deer tag since that's what you'd "rather" do :dunno: :rolleyes:
Post by: bobcat on June 12, 2014, 03:13:04 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on June 12, 2014, 03:15:46 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on June 12, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
I'm just going to go on my sheep hunt and enjoy it! I'll have to cut back somewhere to justify the cost of the sheep tag, but I'll make it happen. I'll probably do a lot less deer and elk hunting. And no trail cameras in the summer like I normally do. Sound like a good plan?
LOL, I just gotta keep rubbing it in. For some reason it always stuck in my head when you made that post and I couldn't figure out your logic for the life of me. Apparently it worked out well, and I'm taking note of that!
Post by: bobcat on June 12, 2014, 03:44:13 PM
I'm just going to go on my sheep hunt and enjoy it! I'll have to cut back somewhere to justify the cost of the sheep tag, but I'll make it happen. I'll probably do a lot less deer and elk hunting. And no trail cameras in the summer like I normally do. Sound like a good plan?
LOL, I just gotta keep rubbing it in. For some reason it always stuck in my head when you made that post and I couldn't figure out your logic for the life of me. Apparently it worked out well, and I'm taking note of that!
It works I tell ya! Just keep telling yourself that it's a waste of money and not worth it, then at the last minute purchase and submit your application.
I applied in eight categories this year. Seven of those I submitted on May 1st. The eighth application, the sheep, I didn't purchase and submit until May 21st, the day before the deadline. That's the only one I drew. Couldn't even draw a cow elk permit but I get a sheep permit. :dunno:
I figure drawing it now just saved me $274 in application fees in the next 20 years. That makes me feel better about spending the $332 on the tag. :chuckle:
Post by: MtnMuley on June 12, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 12, 2014, 03:56:39 PM
Post by: GurrCentral on June 12, 2014, 03:57:17 PM
I'm just going to go on my sheep hunt and enjoy it! I'll have to cut back somewhere to justify the cost of the sheep tag, but I'll make it happen. I'll probably do a lot less deer and elk hunting. And no trail cameras in the summer like I normally do. Sound like a good plan?
LOL, I just gotta keep rubbing it in. For some reason it always stuck in my head when you made that post and I couldn't figure out your logic for the life of me. Apparently it worked out well, and I'm taking note of that!
Those words are still stuck in my head...........I thought he didn't mind not putting in??? for sheep that is...????
Post by: bobcat on June 12, 2014, 04:02:40 PM
This year, finally decided I ought to use my points, since I had paid for them over the years. So I decided to go ahead and "donate" $14 to the WDFW.
Not sure what else I can say other than sorry I drew and you didn't.
Post by: GurrCentral on June 12, 2014, 04:06:08 PM
Geez, you guys never change your mind? I didn't apply in 2012 and 2013, but applied every year from 1997 up to then. Decided I ought to use my points, since I had paid for them over the years. Not sure what else I can say other than sorry I drew and you didn't.
Oh, I didn't put in for sheep this year.....could only put in for goat in WA..... :yike:
Post by: time2hunt on June 16, 2014, 03:02:32 PM
Anyone else got or are close to getting the Washington state oil draw hat trick?I have finally succeeded in drawing all three OIL tags under the points system. Drew quilamine sheep in 99 drew selkirks moose in 2001 and just drew goat rock for goat .
Post by: RB on June 16, 2014, 03:07:21 PM
Anyone else got or are close to getting the Washington state oil draw hat trick?I have finally succeeded in drawing all three OIL tags under the points system. Drew quilamine sheep in 99 drew selkirks moose in 2001 and just drew goat rock for goat .
Have you been buying Powerball tickets too? :chuckle:
Post by: time2hunt on June 16, 2014, 03:12:59 PM
Post by: GurrCentral on June 16, 2014, 08:36:52 PM
Anyone else got or are close to getting the Washington state oil draw hat trick?I have finally succeeded in drawing all three OIL tags under the points system. Drew quilamine sheep in 99 drew selkirks moose in 2001 and just drew goat rock for goat .
Congrats! Good for you!!
Post by: hardrichard on June 17, 2014, 11:38:55 AM