Post by: Houndhunter on November 14, 2008, 09:35:34 PM
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Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 14, 2008, 09:42:47 PM
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Post by: bow4elk on November 14, 2008, 09:50:48 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 14, 2008, 09:53:13 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 14, 2008, 09:56:10 PM
:bash:
Post by: Houndhunter on November 14, 2008, 09:58:01 PM
Post by: bow4elk on November 14, 2008, 10:00:45 PM
Post by: coastalghost on November 14, 2008, 10:01:47 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 14, 2008, 10:02:53 PM
That is the freaking buck of 10 lifetimes. CONGRATULATIONS X 100!!!!!!!!!!! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Post by: jackelope on November 14, 2008, 10:03:59 PM
too bad somebody's not in the head and horns competition.
geez louise...what a buck.
Post by: archery288 on November 14, 2008, 10:04:35 PM
Post by: bow4elk on November 14, 2008, 10:06:40 PM
Post by: BENCHLEG on November 14, 2008, 10:07:46 PM
Post by: skinzner on November 14, 2008, 10:09:02 PM
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on November 14, 2008, 10:13:33 PM
Great, great Blacktail.
Post by: X-Force on November 14, 2008, 10:21:30 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on November 14, 2008, 10:24:08 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 14, 2008, 10:27:12 PM
:dunno:
Post by: Head-shot on November 14, 2008, 10:34:20 PM
HOLY $HIT!!!!!!! That's a monster!!!!! Congrats to whomever harvested that buck!!!!!! :yike: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:That's exactly what I thought :o
Post by: jackelope on November 14, 2008, 10:36:33 PM
the b/c book does not offer a cascade blacktail listing...maybe the washington book, but not boone.
Post by: blacktail luv on November 14, 2008, 10:51:33 PM
Post by: GWA Hunter on November 14, 2008, 11:15:40 PM
Post by: X-Force on November 15, 2008, 12:30:25 AM
Post by: sdwwaverider on November 15, 2008, 01:19:40 AM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on November 15, 2008, 02:23:02 AM
Post by: JBar on November 15, 2008, 03:01:04 AM
Post by: LongTatLaw on November 15, 2008, 04:48:11 AM
I cant even imagine a BT like that...u boys know the scores...that isnt a contender for state record placement?? :dunno:
Post by: bullcanyon on November 15, 2008, 06:00:04 AM
Congrats. That buck is big enough that my buddy the lurker might even post.
Post by: MuleySniper on November 15, 2008, 06:13:03 AM
MS
Post by: 1bowhunter1 on November 15, 2008, 07:08:37 AM
Post by: Geno on November 15, 2008, 07:12:19 AM
Post by: mulehunter on November 15, 2008, 07:17:11 AM
LUCKY YA!!!
Mulehunter ;)
Post by: actionshooter on November 15, 2008, 07:17:43 AM
Post by: coastalghost on November 15, 2008, 07:35:04 AM
Jeez...thats a beautiful deer!
I cant even imagine a BT like that...u boys know the scores...that isnt a contender for state record placement?? :dunno:
I think it will be way up there but wont have the tine length to eclipse 180+. I'll take this buck over all of them its truly what you dream about.....friggin monster.
Post by: Slider on November 15, 2008, 07:39:28 AM
Post by: coyotemadness on November 15, 2008, 07:43:40 AM
Post by: EastWaViking on November 15, 2008, 07:48:45 AM
( I can't believe no one else thought of that wise crack)
Amazing Buck!
Post by: ruttnbuck on November 15, 2008, 08:30:14 AM
Post by: bucklucky on November 15, 2008, 09:19:51 AM
Post by: Ryan on November 15, 2008, 09:44:23 AM
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Post by: Black Ghost on November 15, 2008, 05:03:47 PM
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Post by: Houndhunter on November 15, 2008, 06:18:37 PM
Post by: Bearhunter on November 15, 2008, 08:20:25 PM
Post by: Jackjr on November 15, 2008, 08:22:12 PM
Post by: byrdman on November 15, 2008, 08:38:06 PM
Mass I tell ya, it's all about the mass.
I've never seen another blacktail I'd rather have on the wall.
Post by: bucklucky on November 15, 2008, 10:14:58 PM
Post by: Firstlight on November 16, 2008, 02:00:48 AM
Post by: blacktailer on November 16, 2008, 08:35:10 AM
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Post by: blessed on November 16, 2008, 09:20:06 AM
Congradulations!
Post by: jae on November 16, 2008, 09:27:38 AM
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Post by: TheHunt on November 16, 2008, 02:04:18 PM
Post by: coastalghost on November 16, 2008, 02:24:53 PM
I did put a real tape on him last night , he grossed 155 3/8 , netted 143 4/8. Hes a stud for sure!! Very impressive mass!
Bucklucky taped him TheHunt.
Post by: bucklucky on November 16, 2008, 02:29:46 PM
Post by: DeerHarvester on November 16, 2008, 08:51:51 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on November 17, 2008, 05:55:00 AM
Post by: PacificNWhunter on November 17, 2008, 07:17:49 AM
Post by: PolarBear on November 17, 2008, 07:39:53 AM
Post by: Hillbilly270 on November 17, 2008, 11:42:28 AM
Think that thing could have some Muley/benchleg in him?
Post by: bucklucky on November 17, 2008, 09:28:02 PM
Post by: fc2038 on November 17, 2008, 10:07:58 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on November 18, 2008, 06:37:18 AM
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Post by: bucklucky on November 18, 2008, 08:04:15 AM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 18, 2008, 08:33:22 AM
Why is it called a "bench buck"? or "bench leg"?
They tend to be big bodies which makes there legs appear to be shorter than nomal, having the appearance of a bench with short legs. So then Bench Leg bucks alternate meaning would be short legged buck.
Not really though, They just appear to be short legged due to there rotund body.
Post by: DWP on November 18, 2008, 01:07:49 PM
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Post by: Palmer on November 19, 2008, 05:04:14 AM
Post by: bucklucky on November 19, 2008, 08:00:51 AM
Post by: coonhound on November 19, 2008, 06:58:29 PM
He may as well throw in the towel on blacktails, I'm pretty sure he's peaked on this one. ;)
Coon
Post by: Silvertip on November 20, 2008, 11:09:17 AM
Post by: huntnphool on November 20, 2008, 11:14:05 AM
I think a new avitar is coming. Did you get any field photos? Did you take any pics with a film camera?
Post by: rosscrazyelk on November 20, 2008, 02:15:35 PM
Post by: croix on November 20, 2008, 02:25:13 PM
I'm sure you've still got a few more tricks. You can't hunt blacktail for 30 years and not learn a thing or two. Congrats on an excellent buck.
Post by: skybusterbo on November 24, 2008, 10:40:22 PM
Post by: mwhite on November 24, 2008, 10:55:53 PM
Post by: blacktail luv on November 24, 2008, 11:33:12 PM
Post by: bullchaser on November 25, 2008, 07:09:56 AM
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Post by: WVT on December 02, 2008, 06:05:06 PM
Post by: bucklucky on December 02, 2008, 06:34:40 PM
any idea on the score of this MONSTER? I'm guessing 185+- huge buck would like to know more about this
Go back and read through the post , I scored it for him. I think its on the 2nd page.
Post by: Alan K on December 02, 2008, 09:38:16 PM
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Post by: MuleySniper on December 11, 2008, 08:43:15 PM
MS
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 11, 2008, 08:44:45 PM
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Post by: Red Dawg on December 11, 2008, 09:08:39 PM
Post by: agchawk on December 11, 2008, 09:55:01 PM
BIGTIME CONGRATS on a once in a lifetime bruiser!
Post by: Black Ghost on December 11, 2008, 10:00:05 PM
Post by: hornhunter on December 11, 2008, 10:38:09 PM
Post by: Alan K on December 12, 2008, 12:19:05 AM
Great pictures!
Post by: PacificNWhunter on December 12, 2008, 07:43:08 AM
Post by: MuleyMadness on December 12, 2008, 03:38:51 PM
Post by: GWA Hunter on December 12, 2008, 04:38:07 PM
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Post by: coonhound on December 17, 2008, 07:36:20 PM
thats is deffinently a nice buck its to bad he cant be scored as a true blacktail
I'm pretty sure he falls within the Blacktail boundary for BC, what makes you think it can't be scored as a Blacktail? I know several years ago the boundary was East of where the buck was killed, I guess it could have changed but I don't think so.
Coon
Post by: bobcat on December 17, 2008, 07:51:17 PM
Quote
Washington — Beginning at the Washington-British Columbia border, the boundary line runs south along the west boundary of North Cascades National Park to the range line between R10E and R11E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to its intersection with the township line between T18N and T17N, which is then followed westward until it connects with the north border of Mt. Rainier National Park, then along the north, west and south park boundaries until it intersects with the range line between R9E and R10E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to the Columbia River near Cook.
I put the pertinent part in bold. The buck, if killed in the South Rainier unit west of Packwood, is definitely scored as a blacktail according to the boundary given. Just for reference, SR 123 that runs to the north off of highway 12 east of Packwood, is about 1.5 miles east of the range line between 9 & 10.
Post by: coonhound on December 17, 2008, 08:27:25 PM
This is from the Boone & Crockett site:QuoteWashington — Beginning at the Washington-British Columbia border, the boundary line runs south along the west boundary of North Cascades National Park to the range line between R10E and R11E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to its intersection with the township line between T18N and T17N, which is then followed westward until it connects with the north border of Mt. Rainier National Park, then along the north, west and south park boundaries until it intersects with the range line between R9E and R10E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to the Columbia River near Cook.
I put the pertinent part in bold. The buck, if killed in the South Rainier unit west of Packwood, is definitely scored as a blacktail according to the boundary given. Just for reference, SR 123 that runs to the north off of highway 12 east of Packwood, is about 1.5 miles east of the range line between 9 & 10.
Thanks for data, that's exactly what I remembered...I'm not sure why folks are assuming its a bench buck?
Coon
Post by: huntingbug712 on December 19, 2008, 09:13:10 AM
that thing is huge(:
Post by: OneHorn on January 06, 2009, 07:45:42 PM
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Post by: Silvertip on February 01, 2009, 09:00:03 PM
Just for fun I attached some pictures of my 2007 blactail and my kid. This was just outside of Packwood. The buck was 19 inches wide but just a 2 pt. Pretty country but a long ways from the road.
Post by: coastalghost on February 01, 2009, 09:20:50 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on February 01, 2009, 09:42:54 PM
beautiful pics silvertip....got some good genes up in that country.
nope, stop posting top secret scenery pics :chuckle:
Post by: bow4elk on February 01, 2009, 09:48:17 PM
Aren't ALL mule/blacktailed deer genetically related somehow, if you go back far enough?
Yes, the Columbian blacktail is a cousin of the Mule Deer. Technically, it is classified as a sub-specie of mule deer.
Post by: coastalghost on February 01, 2009, 09:52:21 PM
Post by: WOODS on February 01, 2009, 10:31:26 PM
Post by: PolarBear on February 02, 2009, 08:35:11 PM
Aren't ALL mule/blacktailed deer genetically related somehow, if you go back far enough?
Yes, the Columbian blacktail is a cousin of the Mule Deer. Technically, it is classified as a sub-specie of mule deer.
Actually the mule deer has been genetically determined to be a sub-species due to the cross breeding of the white tail and black tail. This came out a few years ago when they started looking closely at the DNA from all of these species.
Post by: Red Dawg on February 02, 2009, 08:36:52 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 02, 2009, 08:37:16 PM
Aren't ALL mule/blacktailed deer genetically related somehow, if you go back far enough?
Yes, the Columbian blacktail is a cousin of the Mule Deer. Technically, it is classified as a sub-specie of mule deer.
Actually the mule deer has been genetically determined to be a sub-species due to the cross breeding of the white tail and black tail. This came out a few years ago when they started looking at the DNA from all of these species.
Right. I think I read that in a book by Dr. Valerius Geist. Smart guy.
Post by: PolarBear on February 02, 2009, 08:39:41 PM
The Columbian Blacktail Deer
By Dan Gibson
For many years the Columbian Blacktail Deer has been considered a subspecies of the Mule deer, however recent DNA testing has proven this not to be the case. In Valerius Geist's informative book Mule Deer Country he explains that by testing the mitochondrial DNA (the mothers DNA ) of the three species (blacktail, whitetail and mule deer), researchers have now determined that it was the mating of Whitetail does and Blacktail buck's that gave rise to the Mule deer and not the opposite as was once suspected.
It is now believed that millions of years ago the Whitetail deer expanded its range down the east coast of the United States, across Mexico, and then back up the West coast, where it eventually evolved into the Blacktail Deer. This may help to explain the strong resemblance in appearance and psychological characteristics between the two. Thousands of years later as the recently evolved Blacktail's range spread eastward and the Whitehall's range again expanded westward, the two deer again met. At this point the Blacktail bucks, displaced the Whitetail bucks, and bred the Whitetail does. Researches now believe that it is this hybridization that produced what is now know as the Muledeer.
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