Post by: Greenhorn on January 25, 2014, 12:29:36 AM
G2R RIP 2014 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJGH7cDFw7c#ws)
http://thelibertydigest.com/2014/01/24/the-new-ammunition-that-has-gun-owners-drooling/ (http://thelibertydigest.com/2014/01/24/the-new-ammunition-that-has-gun-owners-drooling/)
Post by: golfguy0912 on January 25, 2014, 01:16:55 AM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 25, 2014, 01:25:03 AM
Post by: Greenhorn on January 25, 2014, 02:14:40 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 25, 2014, 02:42:41 AM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 25, 2014, 06:32:11 AM
-Steve
Post by: arees on January 25, 2014, 07:19:47 AM
Post by: Greenhorn on January 25, 2014, 09:01:31 AM
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Post by: j_h_nimrod on January 25, 2014, 09:15:23 AM
I am surprised how straight the center of mass keeps going. Love the slow motion video.
And I was surprised how well the trocar leaflets tracked, they seemed to be on a straight path with no tumbling or shearing as you would expect. I am sure it would be different through a mixed medium but still pretty neat.
The slow motion ballon was pretty cool.
Post by: sirmissalot on January 25, 2014, 09:39:34 AM
Post by: FC on January 25, 2014, 10:01:53 AM
Post by: mulehunter on January 25, 2014, 10:14:14 AM
That would hurt
:yeah: :yike:
Post by: Fishstiq on January 25, 2014, 10:28:56 AM
Post by: lastmk8 on January 25, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
How long until that is banned in California?
I'm going to guess by 6pm today..!! Sooner if someone forwards the link to those commie *censored*s....
Post by: DoubleJ on January 25, 2014, 11:37:07 AM
Post by: Greenhorn on January 25, 2014, 12:20:55 PM
Post by: elkoholic1 on January 25, 2014, 12:35:47 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 25, 2014, 12:55:50 PM
Great video Doublej, looks like an awesome round, I like his accuracy. I guess the guy doing the autopsy on the bad guys will have to be the final judge! :chuckle:
One of my main issues with it is that none of those shots look like they're fired through denim, or cloth of any type for that matter. Those petals look so light, probably about 10 grains each, that they would probably have their amazing trajectory disrupted quite a bit when they meet clothing. And that's to say nothing about how those petals would penetrate, or not as the case probably is, when they meet bone. I have a hard time believing many, if any at all, of those petals get through a clothing covered rib cage and penetrate deep enough to do any damage. On any of the "Impressive" shots through glass or plywood on that video, there looks to be the grand total of about 3" of penetration into the gel. Like I said, it just looks gimiky
Post by: superdown on January 25, 2014, 01:07:55 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 25, 2014, 01:21:37 PM
.45 ACP Federal HST 230 gr Ammo Gel Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW2Y-IZpyE#ws)
Post by: KFhunter on January 25, 2014, 01:23:31 PM
The bulk of the slug is continuing well beyond the pedals flaring out.
That would jelly the insides of a dangerous animal, if your aim was a bit off one or two pedals might get in the heart or shred the lungs.
I'd like to see more tests not put on by the producers of the ammo. Wrap a hog in a leather coat and see what it does.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 25, 2014, 01:25:32 PM
Post by: Phobic on January 25, 2014, 01:56:27 PM
Post by: superdown on January 25, 2014, 01:59:06 PM
for you .45ACP fans, FFWD to 3:27.:tup: I may feel a need to change :chuckle:
.45 ACP Federal HST 230 gr Ammo Gel Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW2Y-IZpyE#ws)
Post by: grundy53 on January 25, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
I'll take a box of 100 for my G20:yeah: I like what I see.
The bulk of the slug is continuing well beyond the pedals flaring out.
That would jelly the insides of a dangerous animal, if your aim was a bit off one or two pedals might get in the heart or shred the lungs.
I'd like to see more tests not put on by the producers of the ammo. Wrap a hog in a leather coat and see what it does.
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Post by: Rick on January 25, 2014, 02:39:56 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 25, 2014, 03:43:45 PM
Post by: mrolen on January 25, 2014, 05:43:57 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 25, 2014, 06:39:02 PM
for you .45ACP fans, FFWD to 3:27.:tup: I may feel a need to change :chuckle:
.45 ACP Federal HST 230 gr Ammo Gel Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW2Y-IZpyE#ws)
If you can find them. HST's in any caliber are almost impossible to find.
Post by: superdown on January 25, 2014, 07:17:24 PM
The only box i have ever seen i bought for $5 at garage sale in .40S&W and sold them for $40 bucks :chuckle:for you .45ACP fans, FFWD to 3:27.:tup: I may feel a need to change :chuckle:
.45 ACP Federal HST 230 gr Ammo Gel Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW2Y-IZpyE#ws)
If you can find them. HST's in any caliber are almost impossible to find.
Post by: mountainman on January 25, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
Post by: Greenhorn on January 31, 2014, 10:54:51 PM
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Post by: sled on January 31, 2014, 11:35:53 PM
Looks gimicky. No thanks. I'll stick with my HST's 9mm +P Federal HST 124 gr Ammo Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COVoBwR1oww#ws):yeah: Who Needs That Fancy Crap!
Post by: Greenhorn on February 01, 2014, 03:46:59 AM
I think you are right! :)Here is another pretty cool slow mo of a frozen chicken getting shot.Cool shot,But that chicken is far from frozen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWINwccJ37U&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWINwccJ37U&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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Post by: PolarBear on February 01, 2014, 04:14:58 AM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on February 01, 2014, 05:17:45 AM
Post by: snowpack on February 01, 2014, 10:47:16 AM
Why?because it looks cool as back up to your zombie rounds and makes cool youtube videos?
Post by: DoubleJ on February 01, 2014, 11:54:29 AM
Here is another pretty cool slow mo of a frozen chicken getting shot.Cool shot,But that chicken is far from frozen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWINwccJ37U&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWINwccJ37U&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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The description of the video says right in it "Unfrozen chicken"
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on February 01, 2014, 12:32:13 PM
Post by: PolarBear on February 01, 2014, 01:00:38 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 01, 2014, 10:13:23 PM
http://www.lehighdefense.com/index.php/shop/bullets/cf-subsonic (http://www.lehighdefense.com/index.php/shop/bullets/cf-subsonic)
http://www.lehighdefense.com/index.php/shop/bullets/controlled-fracturing-handgun (http://www.lehighdefense.com/index.php/shop/bullets/controlled-fracturing-handgun)
I have some of the Lehigh Maximum Expansion bullets for a couple sub sonic guns. I will be putting them to work hunting this coming year.
Post by: jyerxa on February 02, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on February 02, 2014, 11:15:34 AM
I use multiple rounds and stagger them in my magazine already. One for penetration and one for kinetic energy effectiveness. You just don't know what you will face if ever. I like this round. Full metal jacket, one hollow point and then this round. Then repeat. Nice. Kind of like "don't put all you eggs in one basket." ;)
I carry .357 Sig and use only FMJ and I have no doubt I can get a CNS disconnect.
This is a gimmick and a waste of money :twocents:
Post by: jyerxa on February 02, 2014, 11:31:24 AM
I use multiple rounds and stagger them in my magazine already. One for penetration and one for kinetic energy effectiveness. You just don't know what you will face if ever. I like this round. Full metal jacket, one hollow point and then this round. Then repeat. Nice. Kind of like "don't put all you eggs in one basket." ;)
I carry .357 Sig and use only FMJ and I have no doubt I can get a CNS disconnect.
This is a gimmick and a waste of money :twocents:
I'm listening. And I noticed that comment. But like in summer heat where there is not that much apparel worn wouldn't all that copper spreading across the target be immediately heart stopping?
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I know what you are saying. I'm pretty confident with my 45 ACP no matter what I have in it. And right now I only have Federal 185 JHP Personal Defense rounds in it. It's my mini I have staggered.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on February 02, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
I use multiple rounds and stagger them in my magazine already. One for penetration and one for kinetic energy effectiveness. You just don't know what you will face if ever. I like this round. Full metal jacket, one hollow point and then this round. Then repeat. Nice. Kind of like "don't put all you eggs in one basket." ;)
I carry .357 Sig and use only FMJ and I have no doubt I can get a CNS disconnect.
This is a gimmick and a waste of money :twocents:
I'm listening. And I noticed that comment. But like in summer heat where there is not that much apparel worn wouldn't all that copper spreading across the target be immediately heart stopping?
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I know what you are saying. I'm pretty confident with my 45 ACP no matter what I have in it. And right now I only have Federal 185 JHP Personal Defense rounds in it. It's my mini I have staggered.
I'm more interested in turning off the data to the muscles than stopping the heart.
Anyway......GO HAWKS!!!
Post by: jyerxa on February 02, 2014, 12:18:53 PM
HAWKS!!!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 02, 2014, 12:58:58 PM
Post by: yorketransport on February 02, 2014, 05:46:29 PM
:jacked: what ever happened to black talon ammo? :dunno:
Basically, they took the black paint off and called them Winchester Ranger SXTs.
Andrew
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 02, 2014, 06:34:29 PM
:jacked: what ever happened to black talon ammo? :dunno:
I was under the impression they just changed the name to "Failsafe"??????
Post by: yorketransport on February 02, 2014, 06:51:29 PM
:jacked: what ever happened to black talon ammo? :dunno:
I was under the impression they just changed the name to "Failsafe"??????
That's what they did with the rifle calibers. Excellent bullet when you could get them to shoot well. :tup:
Post by: HighlandLofts on February 03, 2014, 09:51:20 AM
I'll take a box of 100 for my G20
The bulk of the slug is continuing well beyond the pedals flaring out.
That would jelly the insides of a dangerous animal, if your aim was a bit off one or two pedals might get in the heart or shred the lungs.
I'd like to see more tests not put on by the producers of the ammo. Wrap a hog in a leather coat and see what it does.
If you ride the buses in Seattle it wouldn't take long to see first hand what these bullets would do to a scum bag.
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 03, 2014, 09:59:54 AM
I'll take a box of 100 for my G20
The bulk of the slug is continuing well beyond the pedals flaring out.
That would jelly the insides of a dangerous animal, if your aim was a bit off one or two pedals might get in the heart or shred the lungs.
I'd like to see more tests not put on by the producers of the ammo. Wrap a hog in a leather coat and see what it does.
If you ride the buses in Seattle it wouldn't take long to see first hand what these bullets would do to a scum bag.
:o
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on February 05, 2014, 03:26:07 PM
G2 RIP R.I.P. ammo review Part II: vs. Federal HST in ballistic gel, denim, and plywood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_27b9P0dfuI#ws)
Post by: Greenhorn on February 05, 2014, 09:15:54 PM
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Post by: Bob33 on February 05, 2014, 10:08:30 PM
Post by: jyerxa on February 08, 2014, 10:32:10 AM
:jacked: what ever happened to black talon ammo? :dunno:
I was under the impression they just changed the name to "Failsafe"??????
That's what they did with the rifle calibers. Excellent bullet when you could get them to shoot well. :tup:
What platform are you shooting them out of? I was at the range one day shooting a mini and one of the guys there wanted to sell me a bunch of ammo he bought because they were jamming on him. His gun smith told him to sell his ammo to a mini owner because a mini will shoot anything. That ammo he was selling were steel casings. :dunno:
Post by: yorketransport on February 08, 2014, 08:03:14 PM
What platform are you shooting them out of? I was at the range one day shooting a mini and one of the guys there wanted to sell me a bunch of ammo he bought because they were jamming on him. His gun smith told him to sell his ammo to a mini owner because a mini will shoot anything. That ammo he was selling were steel casings. :dunno:
The rifle version of the Black Talon was essentially a cross between an old style X bullet and a partition. Solid copper hollow point with a lead core inserted into the shank and a steel plug to hold the core in. I was running them as component bullets in a 338-06 and 338 Win Mag.