Post by: kpigott963 on January 30, 2014, 06:46:19 AM
I did a hunt in Africa and gave Cascade Taxidermy 7 animals and a bear. He was late on his deadline, he did such a terrible job on my Steenbok and Warthog I had to get them redone at Roger's Taxidermy, and the bear rug was a rough cut hide glued to a pice of felt. It wasn't symetrical or presentable in any sense of the word.
BEWARE and stay away from Cascade Taxidermy, he has NO SKILL.
After I posted a review on Yelp Nathan called me a chicken *censored* and that I had "No balls". Is this who you want to do business with?
Post by: Smossy on January 30, 2014, 06:50:03 AM
Cascade Taxidermy is the worst I have ever seen. Nathan will take your money and after 18 months he will hand you the worst taxidermy work you will ever see.Pics or it didn't happen, and that's not a great first post.
I did a hunt in Africa and gave Cascade Taxidermy 7 animals and a bear. He was late on his deadline, he did such a terrible job on my Steenbok and Warthog I had to get them redone at Roger's Taxidermy, and the bear rug was a rough cut hide glued to a pice of felt. It wasn't symetrical or presentable in any sense of the word.
BEWARE and stay away from Cascade Taxidermy, he has NO SKILL.
After I posted a review on Yelp Nathan called me a chicken *censored* and that I had "No balls". Is this who you want to do business with?
and It begins.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 30, 2014, 06:55:38 AM
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Post by: Knocker of rocks on January 30, 2014, 07:11:28 AM
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Post by: seth30 on January 30, 2014, 07:27:30 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on January 30, 2014, 07:27:40 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 07:29:06 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on January 30, 2014, 07:41:05 AM
You gave 7 African animals and a bear to a taxidermist whose work is terrible? Didn't you check his previous work and references, especially those who'd had African animals done? 1st post and a big slam. I'd like to see some pictures, too. Without evidence to the contrary, I have a feeling this is a personal vendetta for something else, entirely.
:yeah:
I don't think the book has been written yet on how a business should respond to these on-line attacks, baseless or not. From what I have seen, entering into a on-line discussion with the aggrieved party is not the way to go. Threatening legal action is a non starter, and ignoring them allows the bad reviews to remain.
Post by: quadrafire on January 30, 2014, 07:41:48 AM
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on January 30, 2014, 07:42:05 AM
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Post by: jordanramos_79 on January 30, 2014, 08:21:19 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 30, 2014, 08:30:14 AM
This should be interesting.
Already is. I am curious to see if there is any further posted. I doubt there will be.
Post by: Taco280AI on January 30, 2014, 08:33:05 AM
Post by: gallion_t on January 30, 2014, 08:34:25 AM
I understand good taxidermy takes a while and is worth the wait, however just be honest and tell me its going to be a couple months rather than a couple weeks. Needless to say I wont be going back there. I can take picture when I get home from work tonight and post. Its nothing horrible, I would grade it about B quality work. Just after all of the great mounts I see on this forum it wasn't fully what I was expecting. I was more upset about the continued lying than anything.
Post by: Skillet on January 30, 2014, 08:43:35 AM
I understand good taxidermy takes a while and is worth the wait, however just be honest and tell me its going to be a couple months rather than a couple weeks. Needless to say I wont be going back there. I can take picture when I get home from work tonight and post. Its nothing horrible, I would grade it about B quality work. Just after all of the great mounts I see on this forum it wasn't fully what I was expecting. I was more upset about the continued lying than anything.
This is something I just don't understand - why is lowballing the time needed to do the work seem to be a "standard practice" in taxidermy? I would think that a fairly priced, above-average taxi with an actual desire to give a customer the straight dope about how long it is going to take would have all the work they wanted.
That said, after reading this if I went to a taxi and they offered me a different deal for different lead times, I would go somewhere else unless I was willing to put up the money and get the faster lead time. You know that your work just became "low priority" compared to the guy that comes in behind you and is willing to pay 100% up front. Enough of those guys and you may never see your deer back...
Post by: boneaddict on January 30, 2014, 08:49:18 AM
Can we please make a rule that anyone who's first post is a trash thread get's nuked immediately? This troll crap is getting old!
We are thinking about it, though there has been a couple that have spawned into great discussion. As for this one, I'm not expecting much at this time.
Post by: boneaddict on January 30, 2014, 08:52:53 AM
and that is a really good point Skillet
Post by: Becky on January 30, 2014, 08:59:49 AM
Probably the sane troll that has been bashing another taxi....
:yeah: What was the other one... Hunter111? one-hit-wonders
Post by: duckmen1 on January 30, 2014, 09:06:13 AM
I personally lost many hides that were suppose to be tanned while he took the money and never even sent them to the tannery. My buddy lost his hide from this clown. A lady lost her 5 point bull euro, and a whole shipment of hides were not even picked up by him from the tannery because he didn't feel like paying the tannery and kept the money for himself resulting in no hides for customers.
Do I need to go on.
Post by: kpigott963 on January 30, 2014, 09:17:09 AM
I would love nothing better than to give raves but the man did me wrong. The Warthog's tusks were put in backwards and he spray painted it grey, it WAS grey with blond hair, and the steenbok was indescribable. Sorry but they went straight to Rogers and were done right.
The bear I just got back yesterday. Pics to come.
Again, its a review. Feel free to get taken but the warning has been posted.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 30, 2014, 09:26:40 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 09:29:35 AM
It seems there are some corroborating posts from established members. I wouldn't nuke the post. To the OP: We'd love to see a post of your African hunt pictures in another category if you have some to share. We're always looking for some good contributions.
Post by: PlateauNDN on January 30, 2014, 09:53:41 AM
Post by: TheHunt on January 30, 2014, 10:09:20 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 30, 2014, 10:32:47 AM
I understand good taxidermy takes a while and is worth the wait, however just be honest and tell me its going to be a couple months rather than a couple weeks. Needless to say I wont be going back there. I can take picture when I get home from work tonight and post. Its nothing horrible, I would grade it about B quality work. Just after all of the great mounts I see on this forum it wasn't fully what I was expecting. I was more upset about the continued lying than anything.
This is something I just don't understand - why is lowballing the time needed to do the work seem to be a "standard practice" in taxidermy? I would think that a fairly priced, above-average taxi with an actual desire to give a customer the straight dope about how long it is going to take would have all the work they wanted.
That said, after reading this if I went to a taxi and they offered me a different deal for different lead times, I would go somewhere else unless I was willing to put up the money and get the faster lead time. You know that your work just became "low priority" compared to the guy that comes in behind you and is willing to pay 100% up front. Enough of those guys and you may never see your deer back...
Overpromise because it's easy and it impresses your customers upfront. Under-deliver because you overpromised just pisses people off. Good customer service==Under-promise and Over-deliver.
Something to be said for keeping customers in the loop. You tell someone a day or a week or a month ahead of time that your service X, whatever it is, is not going to be done when you originally thought it would will get you way ahead in the long run versus not calling them or calling them a week or a month after you told them it would be done to tell them it's not done.
Post by: kpigott963 on January 30, 2014, 11:17:29 AM
I spoke to two people who were satisfied with CTs product and the WDFW stated they had not had any complaints.
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 11:19:51 AM
Post by: quadrafire on January 30, 2014, 11:22:46 AM
Post by: Skillet on January 30, 2014, 11:24:05 AM
Does this look like $1200 worth of work?
:o
Maybe if you're talking about the cost to fix your front bumper.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 11:25:00 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 30, 2014, 11:26:51 AM
That looks like I did it.
:yike:
Post by: Greenhorn on January 30, 2014, 11:39:45 AM
Pilgrims...........nuff said.Good one Plateau, I am still laughing about that one!
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Post by: Jonathan_S on January 30, 2014, 11:40:29 AM
That bear literally looks worse than the rug I did myself :tdown:
Post by: Rainier10 on January 30, 2014, 11:41:59 AM
Post by: kpigott963 on January 30, 2014, 11:45:37 AM
The big problem was that he spray painted the entire thing, no definition. The warthog is still at Rogers waiting for a new cape. Cascade did 2 impalas, a gemsbok, Kudu and a Wildebeest. Outside of seeing stitches and a bolt in one ear they are OK, afterall they are short haired animals.
I wish I had pictures. I don't have an agenda, just like the title, BUYER BEWARE. Nathan was unreasonable and called me names for his poor work. I have taken dozens of big game animals and do all my own caping (Minus Africa), he blames the cape.
Can you imagine a $30,000 sheep being treated like my bear. Fortunately I'm only $4,000 on an Alaska trip plus the $1200 for my rag.
Post by: Maverick on January 30, 2014, 11:57:07 AM
I wish I had pictures. I don't have an agenda, just like the title, BUYER BEWARE. Nathan was unreasonable and called me names for his poor work. I have taken dozens of big game animals and do all my own caping (Minus Africa), he blames the cape.
wouldnt how that bear was caped out be at least part of the issue? it looks to me like whoever caped it out did a bad job.. :twocents:
and really i think youre talking out your rear, you talk about all this bad work a guy did but only post a pic of one mount. if i had bad taxi work done and had to take mounts to someone else to get fixed then id definetly have pics. it sounds like you just dont like the guy. like everyone keeps telling you but you cant seem to figure it is post pictures. post some actual proof of everything youre trying to say. otherwise youre just gonna end up looking like a complete idiot.
Post by: MtnMuley on January 30, 2014, 12:02:22 PM
Post by: Broken Arrow on January 30, 2014, 12:12:51 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2014, 12:16:01 PM
Post by: wildweeds on January 30, 2014, 12:47:52 PM
All Taxis are not created equal,the African Game really needs to go to an experianced Taxi that is well versed in African game IMO.One does not take a Porsche to the Ford dealer for repair.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 30, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
Post by: washelkhunter on January 30, 2014, 12:51:09 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 30, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
The cape on the bear rug looks like it was trimmed down it's not proportional to the rest of it. :dunno:
I agree totally, but I was trying to explain that because of a poor skinning job doesn't affect the way that turned out.
Post by: boneaddict on January 30, 2014, 01:08:20 PM
Post by: Curly on January 30, 2014, 01:10:37 PM
Don't most taxis specialize in just a few species? Seems like it would be hard to get good at doing animals that you normally don't get to work on?
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
Looks to me like that bear cape was mishandled from field to finish. Michelle posted a nice guide on how to properly cape a bear last year.
How do you know it was delivered in bad shape? It's certainly the worst taxi bear rug I've ever seen.
Post by: washelkhunter on January 30, 2014, 01:26:44 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2014, 01:28:00 PM
I won't believe it unless we can get the taxidermist himself to come on here and say "yes that is a bear that I did."
(Also maybe a statement like: "I'm proud of my work.") :yike:
Post by: Skillet on January 30, 2014, 01:32:35 PM
Well, the position of the back legs are a dead give away and the edges of the hide look staggered as if the cuts were short and choppy not one long steady slice. In all honesty the hide does'nt appear full and dense, it probably did'nt warrant mounting anyway imo.
You and your opinion didn't pay for that rug, and it's not for you to decide whether or not mounting is "warranted". I've seen a lot of basket rack whitetails that people pay a lot of money to mount, and they are entitled to good work no matter what it scores or how shaggy a hide is. The hide not being "full and dense" as you put it has no bearing on the rest of the shoddy workmanship that even a bear novice like myself can easily spot in that example.
Bobcat, I doubt any taxi would claim that pic as their work.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 01:35:11 PM
Well, the position of the back legs are a dead give away and the edges of the hide look staggered as if the cuts were short and choppy not one long steady slice. In all honesty the hide does'nt appear full and dense, it probably did'nt warrant mounting anyway imo.
That all could've been done by the taxi. You're grasping at straws or defending the taxi. I can't figure out why.
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on January 30, 2014, 01:47:10 PM
Does this look like $1200 worth of work?
I spoke to two people who were satisfied with CTs product and the WDFW stated they had not had any complaints.
His pricelist on his site says black bear rugs are $625... Why did he charge you $1200?
Can you post some more pics of that rug? Maybe with a seahawks hat or something - so we know it's legit?
Post by: duckmen1 on January 30, 2014, 01:53:40 PM
Post by: Maverick on January 30, 2014, 01:54:51 PM
Does this look like $1200 worth of work?
I spoke to two people who were satisfied with CTs product and the WDFW stated they had not had any complaints.
His pricelist on his site says black bear rugs are $625... Why did he charge you $1200?
Can you post some more pics of that rug? Maybe with a seahawks hat or something - so we know it's legit?
:yeah:
Post by: Smossy on January 30, 2014, 02:07:01 PM
It's hard to believe any taxidermist would let that bear "rug" out of their shop. :yike:rug? Lol if i had one like that Id put it on the front doorstep for guests to wipe theyre feet on :bash:
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
It's hard to believe any taxidermist would let that bear "rug" out of their shop. :yike:rug? Lol if i had one like that Id put it on the front doorstep for guests to wipe theyre feet on :bash:
You dislike your guests that much, Smoss?
Post by: Pygmy on January 30, 2014, 02:28:27 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on January 30, 2014, 02:33:38 PM
I talked to Nathan at Cascade Taxidermy this afternoon. I sent him the photo of the rug and asked if he cared to confirm if it was his work or not. I also linked this thread. Seems appropriate to allow the man to address the charges laid against him before tanning his hide - pun intended.Did he confirm it?
Post by: bigdave on January 30, 2014, 02:35:29 PM
Post by: Pygmy on January 30, 2014, 02:38:15 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 02:40:42 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on January 30, 2014, 02:42:51 PM
Several of you guys don't know what your talking about. That Bear Hide was sent to the Tannery and Dry Tanned. The Taxidermist installed the Rug Shell. Trimmed the edges (a lot) and put the felt on. The Bear was never professionally stretched. That is why the legs are all uneven and screwy. The 4 spots that look like slippage along the edges of the belly are normal. Thats the flank and on a properly done rug they should have been dyed. This is probably one of the worst attempts I have ever seen at doing a Rug.
I have 1/2 dozen Bear Hides on the shelf waiting to be rugged that were skinned out way worse than this one. You won't know it when I get done with them.
Post by: sirmissalot on January 30, 2014, 02:43:29 PM
Post by: Pygmy on January 30, 2014, 02:44:33 PM
From: (Pygmy)
To: Nathan
Subject: Bear Rug
Sent: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 10:23:46 PM
Nathan, if you care to confirm, I would like to verify if this is a rug that you provided to a customer. An individual posted the following thread today and I thought you should have a chance to confirm and respond if you cared to. Thanks.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,146449.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,146449.0.html)
(Pygmy)
NATHAN NEIDEIGH
2:35 PM (5 minutes ago)
Reply
to me
Hey (Pygmy). That bear is not at all something I did. Like I said when we talked that the last bear rug that went out of my shop was about 3 to 4 weeks ago. I haven't had a unsatisfied customer either. So not sure where this is coming from. Let me know what you need from me to fix this.
Thank you, Nathan
Cascade Taxidermy
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Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 02:46:36 PM
Post by: BsB on January 30, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
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Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 02:52:46 PM
This is the email and response by Nathan.
From: (Pygmy)
To: Nathan
Subject: Bear Rug
Sent: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 10:23:46 PM
Nathan, if you care to confirm, I would like to verify if this is a rug that you provided to a customer. An individual posted the following thread today and I thought you should have a chance to confirm and respond if you cared to. Thanks.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,146449.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,146449.0.html)
(Pygmy)
NATHAN NEIDEIGH
2:35 PM (5 minutes ago)
Reply
to me
Hey (Pygmy). That bear is not at all something I did. Like I said when we talked that the last bear rug that went out of my shop was about 3 to 4 weeks ago. I haven't had a unsatisfied customer either. So not sure where this is coming from. Let me know what you need from me to fix this.
Thank you, Nathan
Cascade Taxidermy
Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
Pygmy, please ask Nathan to post pictures of some of his recent bear rugs so we can see his work. It might make an interesting comparison. Thanks,
PMan
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2014, 03:31:40 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on January 30, 2014, 03:40:02 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 03:55:10 PM
As I said, it's very hard to believe that ANY taxidermist would let a bear leave their shop looking like that. Just because a guy posts it on the Internet, doesn't mean it's true.And yet we know from threads on this site that there are taxi nightmares out there. So, it does happen. The taxi in question here had an opportunity to address the OP's assertions. We'll see what happens.
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2014, 03:56:13 PM
Why do facts always seem hard to come by....
Probably because it doesn't cost anything to post on the Internet and there's no penalty for lying.
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2014, 04:00:38 PM
As I said, it's very hard to believe that ANY taxidermist would let a bear leave their shop looking like that. Just because a guy posts it on the Internet, doesn't mean it's true.And yet we know from threads on this site that there are taxi nightmares out there. So, it does happen. The taxi in question here had an opportunity to address the OP's assertions. We'll see what happens.
Yes, but that bear is SO bad it's very hard to believe, in my opinion. If it did leave a taxidermist's shop in that condition there has to be more to the story. Like the client got tired of waiting and took it home before it was done? :dunno:
I mean, come on, my daughter who is in 2nd grade could probably do better than that.
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on January 30, 2014, 04:04:38 PM
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on January 30, 2014, 04:05:17 PM
Post by: Pygmy on January 30, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
Pygmy, please ask Nathan to post pictures of some of his recent bear rugs so we can see his work. It might make an interesting comparison. Thanks,
PMan
I really don't want to bother the man more than I have. Feel free to reach out to him directly if anyone wants further clarification. For me, having talked to him, I believe he didn't produce the rug. For the sake of a man's reputation and business the OP and thread should be removed. :twocents:
Post by: seth30 on January 30, 2014, 04:17:37 PM
All we need is for the OP to post a seahawks hat, shirt, something that we know it's real for us next to that rug... He clearly can't. Why would someone go on here and start crap and try to hurt someones livelihood?ANTIS would want to start crap and try to hurt someones livelihood :twocents:
Post by: kpigott963 on January 30, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 04:18:59 PM
Wow!!! Let me get this right, now he claims he didn't do it?Yep, you got it.
Scan a receipt or something to muzzle the non-believers.
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on January 30, 2014, 04:20:42 PM
Wow!!! Let me get this right, now he claims he didn't do it?
Post a pic of that bear rug again - with a seahawks hat/shirt/something seahawk related, so we know it's legit... Shouldn't be too hard, right kpigott?
Post by: kpigott963 on January 30, 2014, 04:24:21 PM
We went back and forth about his $625 prruce and he said the 1400 is because it is a "Full body" we settled on $1100 plus tax. That is where the $1200 came from.
I'm just getting the word out. BUYER BEWARE
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on January 30, 2014, 04:25:31 PM
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on January 30, 2014, 04:29:11 PM
So as I mentioned before, I had intended on doing a 3/4 mount, the quote was $1800. I have $900 deposit and said go ahead. I then changed my mind within a day and said I wanted a rug. When Nathan said it would be $1400 he said that was a rug price with no head (open mouth), basically a layed out hide.
We went back and forth about his $625 prruce and he said the 1400 is because it is a "Full body" we settled on $1100 plus tax. That is where the $1200 came from.
I'm just getting the word out. BUYER BEWARE
Post a pic of the rug w/ a seahawks (or any football) gear next to it... Just seems fishy. I've had work done by Nathan, never had any quality/price/communication issues.
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 04:29:46 PM
Wow!!! Let me get this right, now he claims he didn't do it?
Post a pic of that bear rug again - with a seahawks hat/shirt/something seahawk related, so we know it's legit... Shouldn't be too hard, right kpigott?
Tell me what good it's going to do to take a picture with some Seahawk swag? I mean, I could decorate one of my elk shoulder mounts with the old ladies undies but it ain't gonna say who stuffed him, is it?
I mean the undies are legit (I hope), The mount is legit (I'm certain). But the taxi could be anyone's guess.
Post by: seth30 on January 30, 2014, 04:30:30 PM
To prove he didnt just pull the picture from the netWow!!! Let me get this right, now he claims he didn't do it?
Post a pic of that bear rug again - with a seahawks hat/shirt/something seahawk related, so we know it's legit... Shouldn't be too hard, right kpigott?
Tell me what good it's going to do to take a picture with some Seahawk swag? I mean, I could decorate one of my elk shoulder mounts with the old ladies undies but it ain't gonna say who stuffed him, is it?
I mean the undies are legit (I hope), The mount is legit (I'm certain). But the taxi could be anyone's guess.
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 04:31:23 PM
What if he doesnt like the seahawks :chuckle:
i think you're onto something.
49er red felt and all. :chuckle:
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on January 30, 2014, 04:32:34 PM
Wow!!! Let me get this right, now he claims he didn't do it?
Post a pic of that bear rug again - with a seahawks hat/shirt/something seahawk related, so we know it's legit... Shouldn't be too hard, right kpigott?
Tell me what good it's going to do to take a picture with some Seahawk swag? I mean, I could decorate one of my elk shoulder mounts with the old ladies undies but it ain't gonna say who stuffed him, is it?
I mean the undies are legit (I hope), The mount is legit (I'm certain). But the taxi could be anyone's guess.
A. To prove the rug is in his possession
B. To prove that he's real
C. To see if he's a hawks fan :chuckle:
It'd be easy to pull a "bad taxidermy rug" photo off the internet, and put it up here.
Post by: jackelope on January 30, 2014, 04:36:11 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 04:36:36 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on January 30, 2014, 04:36:47 PM
And I think it could be a worker or friend of Rodgers that is posting.
The reasoning with putting something one the hide would be to prove it is yours and not just a picture of bad taxidermy.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 04:40:47 PM
So as I mentioned before, I had intended on doing a 3/4 mount, the quote was $1800. I have $900 deposit and said go ahead. I then changed my mind within a day and said I wanted a rug. When Nathan said it would be $1400 he said that was a rug price with no head (open mouth), basically a layed out hide.
We went back and forth about his $625 prruce and he said the 1400 is because it is a "Full body" we settled on $1100 plus tax. That is where the $1200 came from.
I'm just getting the word out. BUYER BEWARE
A canceled check or a credit card statement would be proof. You could blur the account info.
We also haven't seen the taxi respond with pics of other rugs. So far, no one's offered anything but accusation or denial. OP? Nathan?
Post by: kpigott963 on January 30, 2014, 04:41:45 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 04:42:17 PM
thank you sir!
Post by: jackelope on January 30, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
Dunno, but I'm of the opinion that the OP isn't really stupid enough to go to the level that he's taken this and then post a stock photo off the net to drive his point home.
No offense to you, sir....but I've been here long enough to know that anything is possible when it comes to the internet in the hands of human beings.
Post by: haugenna on January 30, 2014, 04:43:30 PM
Dunno, but I'm of the opinion that the OP isn't really stupid enough to go to the level that he's taken this and then post a stock photo off the net to drive his point home.
You sure? He went to Rogers.
Post by: jackelope on January 30, 2014, 04:43:52 PM
Why would I lie
Got another pic of the rug?
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 04:44:20 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
No offense taken. :)Dunno, but I'm of the opinion that the OP isn't really stupid enough to go to the level that he's taken this and then post a stock photo off the net to drive his point home.
No offense to you, sir....but I've been here long enough to know that anything is possible when it comes to the internet in the hands of human beings.
I just had a gut feeling on this one though.
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2014, 04:46:08 PM
Dunno, but I'm of the opinion that the OP isn't really stupid enough to go to the level that he's taken this and then post a stock photo off the net to drive his point home.
You sure? He went to Rogers.
:yeah:
That's one of the reasons I have a hard time believing this. Rogers has about the worst possible reputation of any taxidermist in the state. (Just from my limited knowledge anyway)
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 04:46:25 PM
Dunno, but I'm of the opinion that the OP isn't really stupid enough to go to the level that he's taken this and then post a stock photo off the net to drive his point home.
You sure? He went to Rogers.
No clue, nor do I care where he took it/they after the fact.
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on January 30, 2014, 04:48:29 PM
Why would I lie
I stand corrected, Sir.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 04:48:40 PM
Post by: haugenna on January 30, 2014, 04:49:04 PM
Why would I lie
Got another pic of the rug?
Yeah that. One more pic of that rug with today's paper or a Seahawks hat seals the deal.
Post by: jackelope on January 30, 2014, 04:51:01 PM
Why would I lie
Got another pic of the rug?
Yeah that. One more pic of that rug with today's paper or a Seahawks hat seals the deal.
It could even be a Bronco's hat.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 04:51:45 PM
So now you think he had a second rug sitting around just to screw an honest taxi? :chuckle: sure!Why would I lie
Got another pic of the rug?
Yeah that. One more pic of that rug with today's paper or a Seahawks hat seals the deal.
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on January 30, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
We asked for a pic. He supplied one. We asked for proof of purchase. He supplied it. Now, the taxi can tell us his side of the story. But, I'm inclined to believe the OP until I see differently.+1
Post by: Buzz2401 on January 30, 2014, 04:53:26 PM
Post by: whacker1 on January 30, 2014, 04:53:35 PM
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on January 30, 2014, 04:54:05 PM
Why would I lie
Got another pic of the rug?
Yeah that. One more pic of that rug with today's paper or a Seahawks hat seals the deal.
It could even be a Bronco's hat.
It'd match the quality of the rug.
Post by: h2ofowlr on January 30, 2014, 04:54:35 PM
Post by: gasman on January 30, 2014, 04:56:55 PM
But Rogers :bdid: :bdid: :bdid:
Get any thing else you have out of there and get it to a reputable taxi before your stuff disappears for ever :'(
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 30, 2014, 04:59:12 PM
Post by: Hawgdawg on January 30, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
Does this look like $1200 worth of work?
I spoke to two people who were satisfied with CTs product and the WDFW stated they had not had any complaints.
Can't believe I have missed this thread.
When did Moose and Goose have anything to do with taxi complaints????? :dunno:
Don't they have enough to do without checking to see if a guy shot a bear with the hide rubbed off and the taxi ran out of black shoe polish to camo it :bash: :bash:
Post by: jordanramos_79 on January 30, 2014, 06:08:47 PM
We asked for a pic. He supplied one. We asked for proof of purchase. He supplied it. Now, the taxi can tell us his side of the story. But, I'm inclined to believe the OP until I see differently.
:yeah:
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 30, 2014, 06:12:38 PM
It would clash with the felt.Why would I lie
Got another pic of the rug?
Yeah that. One more pic of that rug with today's paper or a Seahawks hat seals the deal.
It could even be a Bronco's hat.
It'd match the quality of the rug.
Now a 49er hat would work. :chuckle:
Post by: MLBowhunting on January 30, 2014, 06:23:35 PM
Post by: dscubame on January 30, 2014, 06:28:14 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2014, 06:32:43 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,32879.msg390045.html#msg390045 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,32879.msg390045.html#msg390045)
Post by: kpigott963 on January 30, 2014, 06:33:15 PM
Post by: seth30 on January 30, 2014, 07:14:23 PM
Post by: gallion_t on January 30, 2014, 07:18:47 PM
Post by: dscubame on January 30, 2014, 07:25:19 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on January 30, 2014, 07:36:27 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on January 30, 2014, 07:39:20 PM
Post by: beaslayer6 on January 30, 2014, 07:41:29 PM
Post by: dscubame on January 30, 2014, 07:51:33 PM
Post by: brew on January 30, 2014, 07:54:50 PM
Gee, I don't know....that bear rug is definitely better than no rug... :dunno:I'm confused....is that a serious comment ? there is no way in hell someone could say that after looking at the "rug" pictured in the thread.. I guess I'm just too tired to get the humor in that post....unfortunately for the person who dropped the rug off at the taxi he was force fed a sh*t sandwich and I don't see how anyone can defend it.
Post by: singleshot12 on January 30, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
Shouldn't the Better Business Bureau be notified
Post by: dscubame on January 30, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
Another thread on another forum.....
Post by: 3nails on January 30, 2014, 08:07:20 PM
I really feel bad for someone getting screwed by a taxi
Me too. Go through all the hard work of getting a quality animal and not only have the animal treated terribly but get treated the same way personally. What a bummer.
Post by: Band on January 30, 2014, 08:30:46 PM
This is one taxidermist I will permanently take off my list. He lost my potential business well before he sent the e-mail claiming not to have done the bear rug but when he lied about doing that work, he showed his true character. I would never do business with a person known to be dishonest! Not a chance! :bdid:
Post by: jason stevens on January 30, 2014, 08:35:44 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on January 30, 2014, 08:54:53 PM
http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php?topic=352258.0 (http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php?topic=352258.0)
Another thread on another forum.....
What a headache. I read that entire taxidermy thread and the threatening letter the guy sent over to his client. Don't care what kind of work he does, with deminer like that I wouldn't take crap to him.
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2014, 08:56:13 PM
Gee, I don't know....that bear rug is definitely better than no rug... :dunno:I'm confused....is that a serious comment ? there is no way in hell someone could say that after looking at the "rug" pictured in the thread.. I guess I'm just too tired to get the humor in that post....unfortunately for the person who dropped the rug off at the taxi he was force fed a sh*t sandwich and I don't see how anyone can defend it.
:yeah: I would rather have no bear than one that looked like that. What good is it? I sure wouldn't display it in my house. I would have left it with the taxidermist and demanded a refund or that it be done right.
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Post by: Bean Counter on January 30, 2014, 08:57:33 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on January 30, 2014, 09:27:26 PM
Gee, I don't know....that bear rug is definitely better than no rug... :dunno:I'm confused....is that a serious comment ? there is no way in hell someone could say that after looking at the "rug" pictured in the thread.. I guess I'm just too tired to get the humor in that post....unfortunately for the person who dropped the rug off at the taxi he was force fed a sh*t sandwich and I don't see how anyone can defend it.
You can't take your rug to get fixed by another taxi, if you never get it back in the first place from your first taxi...... I think everyone agrees that the rug in the picture looks pretty amateurish.
Post by: Greenhorn on January 30, 2014, 09:29:45 PM
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Post by: WAcoueshunter on January 30, 2014, 10:19:51 PM
Being cheap I have only ever done euro mounts. Stories like this make me scared to pay for a shoulder mount given $700 for deer and $1,300 for elk are the norm in my area.
Bean Counter, go to (Craig) Pearson Taxidermy in Prescott. My cousin down there has a room full from Craig. I have a coues and a euro from him. All 10 or so are incredible.
Post by: Bean Counter on January 30, 2014, 10:27:12 PM
Post by: haugenna on January 30, 2014, 11:02:04 PM
This has to be the best roller coaster ride I have been on in a long time. I feel real sorry for all of the victims in this case. Do you think the whole truth is out yet?
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I am good with the post now and believe the OP. Hope he understands that we see a lot of one hit wonder posts, one very recent about Ranier. We as a group get a little skeptical about the first post being a bash on a business.
Sorry to hear about the bear rug. Cascade Taxidermy :pee:
Post by: Taco280AI on January 31, 2014, 03:25:15 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 31, 2014, 04:01:04 AM
Post by: Curly on January 31, 2014, 07:35:42 AM
Another thread was just brought to my attention by someone who had a bad experience with the same taxidermist. This was 4 1/2 years ago. I'm surprised he's still in business.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,32879.msg390045.html#msg390045 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,32879.msg390045.html#msg390045)
I have had alot of animals mounted by Cascade Taxidermy and they all have come back in mint condition. Nathan does very good work and I would recommend him to everyone. I have never had a problem with Cascade Taxidermy. Its to bad that there are people out there that like to slander people's name for pety stuff. Nahan does great work and alot of mine friends use nathan and they are very happy with his work.
Post by: boneaddict on January 31, 2014, 07:36:28 AM
Post by: BsB on January 31, 2014, 07:36:46 AM
That other thread from 2009 had a guy with the forum handle "hunter1971" post in it claiming that Nathan does great work. Guess what? hunter1971 = Nathan. I figured that out when I read the post from Nathan on Taxidermy.net where he goes by Cascade1971.I noticed that too.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on January 31, 2014, 07:40:36 AM
That other thread from 2009 had a guy with the forum handle "hunter1971" post in it claiming that Nathan does great work. Guess what? hunter1971 = Nathan. I figured that out when I read the post from Nathan on Taxidermy.net where he goes by Cascade1971.I noticed that too.
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Yes, if you move your cursor over the website icon under the username, the website is Cascade. Not really very talented or very tricky, either. :chuckle:
Post by: Knocker of rocks on January 31, 2014, 07:56:20 AM
Somebody doesn't know too much about cloaking devices. Jeez Louise 1971, putting up posts to "anonymously" tout yourself?
Post by: grundy53 on January 31, 2014, 08:10:20 AM
:yeah:That other thread from 2009 had a guy with the forum handle "hunter1971" post in it claiming that Nathan does great work. Guess what? hunter1971 = Nathan. I figured that out when I read the post from Nathan on Taxidermy.net where he goes by Cascade1971.I noticed that too.
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Post by: dscubame on January 31, 2014, 08:11:28 AM
That other thread from 2009 had a guy with the forum handle "hunter1971" post in it claiming that Nathan does great work. Guess what? hunter1971 = Nathan. I figured that out when I read the post from Nathan on Taxidermy.net where he goes by Cascade1971.I noticed that too.
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We need a "busted" icon
Post by: kodiak 907 on January 31, 2014, 08:17:51 AM
Post by: Curly on January 31, 2014, 08:21:55 AM
All I know is Cascade Taxidermy does fine work. He has done a bear, deer, and a bobcat for me and a couple of elk for my friends. The bear and one of the elk he took to one of the taxidermy compitions in Idaho last year and placed 2nd on the bear and 3rd on th elk. I don't know what happend with gobble mounts but I'm still going to use Natan.
Post by: Curly on January 31, 2014, 08:28:15 AM
The above link is to a thread started by Nathan (Cascade Taxidermy) claiming to be a customer of Cascade taxidermy and claiming he does great work. Then Buckkiller gets on and agrees that he does great work.
I don't know if Buckkiller = Nathan also.......or maybe he's a brother or friend. But that thread should probably be nuked. :twocents:
Edit - actually I just read the rest of that thread. Looks like guys caught onto Nathan and whoever buckkiller is. But still, somebody might not read the whole thread and believe that the taxidermist does good work.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on January 31, 2014, 08:34:03 AM
Post by: Curly on January 31, 2014, 08:36:57 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 31, 2014, 08:39:32 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,34057.msg406396.html#msg406396 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,34057.msg406396.html#msg406396)
The above link is to a thread started by Nathan (Cascade Taxidermy) claiming to be a customer of Cascade taxidermy and claiming he does great work. Then Buckkiller gets on and agrees that he does great work.
I don't know if Buckkiller = Nathan also.......or maybe he's a brother or friend. But that thread should probably be nuked. :twocents:
Edit - actually I just read the rest of that thread. Looks like guys caught onto Nathan and whoever buckkiller is. But still, somebody might not read the whole thread and believe that the taxidermist does good work.
Buckkiller also has a website link which directs you to Cascade Taxidermy. It's either him or one of his partners/workers. :dunno:
Post by: MLBowhunting on January 31, 2014, 08:40:51 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 31, 2014, 08:44:38 AM
Post by: bobcat on January 31, 2014, 08:45:56 AM
Weird that buckkiller lives in Oregon. :rolleyes:
Post by: Becky on January 31, 2014, 08:48:08 AM
Now if everyone could just team up and help out some local police etc, I'm sure ya'll could put your sleuthing to some excellent use! I don't get why people keep trying that crap on this site, I agree - we should have a "busted" icon on here since this happens so often.
Post by: buckfvr on January 31, 2014, 08:49:50 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 31, 2014, 08:55:45 AM
So here is a question I have. How does a taxidermist win contests with his work and have good looking mounts on his website and apparently in his shop, but then put out some of the crap we've seen? Is just that he takes his time for the stuff that he submits for the contests and rushes stuff out of the office for clients? :dunno:
Easy, have Charlie or a couple of the other reputable Taxis do the work for you, and then put your name on it I guess. :bdid: :yike:
Post by: bigdave on January 31, 2014, 09:39:04 AM
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on January 31, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 31, 2014, 09:51:19 AM
So here is a question I have. How does a taxidermist win contests with his work and have good looking mounts on his website and apparently in his shop, but then put out some of the crap we've seen? Is just that he takes his time for the stuff that he submits for the contests and rushes stuff out of the office for clients? :dunno:
Easy, have Charlie or a couple of the other reputable Taxis do the work for you, and then put your name on it I guess. :bdid: :yike:
Yep the old bait and switch, i fell for that once but didnt loose much money just the hide because it wasn't tanned just dipped in some solution to dry on the form. Its been quite awhile so its easy to laugh at now. :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 31, 2014, 09:56:10 AM
This thread is EPIC.......thanks for the heads up OP.
:yeah: Good job. I know that many of us questioned the OP, especially as a first time poster. But this turned out to be a great first post. Very informative. Sorry about your luck with your mounts.
Post by: Cascade on January 31, 2014, 10:03:16 AM
This thread is EPIC.......thanks for the heads up OP.
:yeah: Good job. I know that many of us questioned the OP, especially as a first time poster. But this turned out to be a great first post. Very informative. Sorry about your luck with your mounts.
:yeah:
Post by: scout/sniper on January 31, 2014, 10:09:18 AM
Well I see buckkiller and hunter1971 have the same IP address.
Weird that buckkiller lives in Oregon. :rolleyes:
Nice bobcat. :tup:
Post by: bearkautz on January 31, 2014, 10:12:21 AM
Well I see buckkiller and hunter1971 have the same IP address.:chuckle: I got a good laugh out of it !
Weird that buckkiller lives in Oregon. :rolleyes:
Post by: kpigott963 on January 31, 2014, 10:24:22 AM
I know how it must have looked but I lost thousands of dollars, a memory, and a gift I had promised to my daughter. I was done wrong by Cascade Taxidermy. Nathan had no problem stealing those away from me.
As far as Roger's. My good friend has used him since the 70's and I just went that direction. One of the reasons I tried CASCADE was because I was losing trust in Roger. After my experience with CASCADE Roger's is 10X better. It's going to be tough to trust another taxi.
I've been PMed by another Taxidermist who wants to help me out. Hopefully we can make something happen.
you will see more of me now that I'm a member, hopefully fun stories and serious gear reviews.
Post by: jackelope on January 31, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,34057.msg406396.html#msg406396 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,34057.msg406396.html#msg406396)
The above link is to a thread started by Nathan (Cascade Taxidermy) claiming to be a customer of Cascade taxidermy and claiming he does great work. Then Buckkiller gets on and agrees that he does great work.
I don't know if Buckkiller = Nathan also.......or maybe he's a brother or friend. But that thread should probably be nuked. :twocents:
Edit - actually I just read the rest of that thread. Looks like guys caught onto Nathan and whoever buckkiller is. But still, somebody might not read the whole thread and believe that the taxidermist does good work.
Hunter1971 and Buckkiller are the same person, or are using the same computer. Both have either Cascade Taxidermy emails or links to Cascade Taxi's website. I'd be 99% positive that they're both the same person based on their profiles.
Well I see buckkiller and hunter1971 have the same IP address.
Weird that buckkiller lives in Oregon. :rolleyes:
And has a Cascade Taxidermy email address.
:dunno:
Maybe they have an email hosting business on the side.
Post by: Band on January 31, 2014, 11:05:16 AM
Post by: MountainWalk on January 31, 2014, 11:15:55 AM
Post by: Skillet on January 31, 2014, 11:24:28 AM
It just baffles the imagination how some people like Nathan at Cascade Taxidermy have no problems with perpetrating dishonest acts like he did here - especially when a business like taxidermy is dependent on people trusting you.
Post by: blindluck on January 31, 2014, 11:48:51 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 31, 2014, 11:53:39 AM
Post by: turkeyfeather on January 31, 2014, 12:12:30 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 31, 2014, 12:19:53 PM
Post by: dscubame on January 31, 2014, 01:22:17 PM
Folks, I think the point has been made. May I suggest we ease up on the mob mentality here?
You may suggest but what fun would that be if we took your suggestion. In addition good ol Cascade Taxidermy deserves a great deal more than this mob mentality from the evidence throughout this thread. IMO in response to yours.
Post by: Band on January 31, 2014, 02:01:36 PM
In addition good ol Cascade Taxidermy deserves a great deal more than this mob mentality from the evidence throughout this thread.I agree. The mob mentality goes overboard here fairly often, but when you have a person who is proven to have a history of the kinds of stunts our friend Nathan has, he deserves all of the poor publicity we can collectively muster to help drive him out of business. :twocents:
Post by: beaslayer6 on January 31, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 31, 2014, 02:29:49 PM
In addition good ol Cascade Taxidermy deserves a great deal more than this mob mentality from the evidence throughout this thread.I agree. The mob mentality goes overboard here fairly often, but when you have a person who is proven to have a history of the kinds of stunts our friend Nathan has, he deserves all of the poor publicity we can collectively muster to help drive him out of business. :twocents:
Part of me agrees with you. Just remember that when you throw mud, you get your hands dirty. We've seen before how people judge the hunting community based on things that are said on this site. Even if he is (or isn't) a bad taxidermist, he is one of us as far as being a hunter and someone who is trying to provide for his family. Its not like we're talking about a wolf lover or a liberal.
I will always take my stuff to natures way in graham For know on. Mike out there is a stand up guy and does some of the best work around. :tup:
I'd rather see more posts like these.
Post by: Skillet on January 31, 2014, 02:42:35 PM
In addition good ol Cascade Taxidermy deserves a great deal more than this mob mentality from the evidence throughout this thread.I agree. The mob mentality goes overboard here fairly often, but when you have a person who is proven to have a history of the kinds of stunts our friend Nathan has, he deserves all of the poor publicity we can collectively muster to help drive him out of business. :twocents:
Part of me agrees with you. Just remember that when you throw mud, you get your hands dirty. We've seen before how people judge the hunting community based on things that are said on this site. Even if he is (or isn't) a bad taxidermist, he is one of us as far as being a hunter and someone who is trying to provide for his family. Its not like we're talking about a wolf lover or a liberal.
Disagree. He has shown a repeated tendency to not be honest, on this very site. I'll claim an honest liberal as one of us before I'd claim him. And yes, honest liberals do exist... :rolleyes:
Post by: Band on January 31, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Even if he is (or isn't) a bad taxidermist, he is one of us as far as being a hunter and someone who is trying to provide for his family. Its not like we're talking about a wolf lover or a liberal.That's where we disagree. This is not about him being a bad taxidermist. This is about him ripping people off, destroying trophies, failing to acknowledge his obvious shortcomings, making threats to customers, and systematically lying and portraying himself as other people to perpetuate his poor business.
And to the "wolf lover" or "liberal" comment I judge a person by their actions, not by their belief system. I would much rather hang around with a pleasant person who is a wolf lover or liberal than a person like the one we are talking about.
Post by: Old Man Yager on January 31, 2014, 03:00:44 PM
:yeah: I can smell what you're stepping in!! If it's BS, we all have no problem calling it out here on the HW forum.In addition good ol Cascade Taxidermy deserves a great deal more than this mob mentality from the evidence throughout this thread.I agree. The mob mentality goes overboard here fairly often, but when you have a person who is proven to have a history of the kinds of stunts our friend Nathan has, he deserves all of the poor publicity we can collectively muster to help drive him out of business. :twocents:
Post by: turkeyfeather on January 31, 2014, 03:09:36 PM
I disagree with you here. IMO, it looks better to the non hunting community that we jump on someone like this. We should not stand beside someone simply because they are hunters and outdoorsman. I think it sends a more powerful message when we chastize someone who doesn't uphold the higher standards, ethics and respect for game that the rest of us do.
Part of me agrees with you. Just remember that when you throw mud, you get your hands dirty. We've seen before how people judge the hunting community based on things that are said on this site. Even if he is (or isn't) a bad taxidermist, he is one of us as far as being a hunter and someone who is trying to provide for his family. Its not like we're talking about a wolf lover or a liberal.
Post by: dscubame on January 31, 2014, 03:11:44 PM
I disagree with you here. IMO, it looks better to the non hunting community that we jump on someone like this. We should not stand beside someone simply because they are hunters and outdoorsman. I think it sends a more powerful message when we chastize someone who doesn't uphold the higher standards, ethics and respect for game that the rest of us do.
Part of me agrees with you. Just remember that when you throw mud, you get your hands dirty. We've seen before how people judge the hunting community based on things that are said on this site. Even if he is (or isn't) a bad taxidermist, he is one of us as far as being a hunter and someone who is trying to provide for his family. Its not like we're talking about a wolf lover or a liberal.
:tup:
Post by: Vulcan on January 31, 2014, 03:57:07 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 31, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
In addition good ol Cascade Taxidermy deserves a great deal more than this mob mentality from the evidence throughout this thread.I agree. The mob mentality goes overboard here fairly often, but when you have a person who is proven to have a history of the kinds of stunts our friend Nathan has, he deserves all of the poor publicity we can collectively muster to help drive him out of business. :twocents:
Part of me agrees with you. Just remember that when you throw mud, you get your hands dirty. We've seen before how people judge the hunting community based on things that are said on this site. Even if he is (or isn't) a bad taxidermist, he is one of us as far as being a hunter and someone who is trying to provide for his family. Its not like we're talking about a wolf lover or a liberal.I will always take my stuff to natures way in graham For know on. Mike out there is a stand up guy and does some of the best work around. :tup:
I'd rather see more posts like these.
There are lots of bad apples in every community and we should strive to make our community better. This guys apparently is a hack - he's certainly never offered any evidence to the contrary. This is hardly mob mentality. The guy's been on here before and now, he's ruined someone's trophy again. We shouldn't stick up for someone just because they're part of our community, especially if they're hurting other members of our community.
We went to great lengths last night to verify what the OP had said as true. I think he did a pretty good job of giving us the information to confirm.
Post by: Buckmark on January 31, 2014, 04:18:33 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 31, 2014, 04:19:04 PM
And to the "wolf lover" or "liberal" comment I judge a person by their actions, not by their belief system. I would much rather hang around with a pleasant person who is a wolf lover or liberal than a person like the one we are talking about.
Hey, well said Band. I'm with you.
Post by: gasman on January 31, 2014, 04:31:25 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on January 31, 2014, 06:25:24 PM
Post by: boneaddict on January 31, 2014, 06:34:38 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 31, 2014, 07:40:17 PM
In addition good ol Cascade Taxidermy deserves a great deal more than this mob mentality from the evidence throughout this thread.I agree. The mob mentality goes overboard here fairly often, but when you have a person who is proven to have a history of the kinds of stunts our friend Nathan has, he deserves all of the poor publicity we can collectively muster to help drive him out of business. :twocents:
Part of me agrees with you. Just remember that when you throw mud, you get your hands dirty. We've seen before how people judge the hunting community based on things that are said on this site. Even if he is (or isn't) a bad taxidermist, he is one of us as far as being a hunter and someone who is trying to provide for his family. Its not like we're talking about a wolf lover or a liberal.I will always take my stuff to natures way in graham For know on. Mike out there is a stand up guy and does some of the best work around. :tup:
I'd rather see more posts like these.
There are lots of bad apples in every community and we should strive to make our community better. This guys apparently is a hack - he's certainly never offered any evidence to the contrary. This is hardly mob mentality. The guy's been on here before and now, he's ruined someone's trophy again. We shouldn't stick up for someone just because they're part of our community, especially if they're hurting other members of our community.
We went to great lengths last night to verify what the OP had said as true. I think he did a pretty good job of giving us the information to confirm.
Sounds good by me. If I have a problem with a business I'd try to resolve it with them first, which it seems as though the OP did, and then post it here. Post some photos, let the truth be know, and call out the lies. But once all that is done I don't like seeing discussions become a runaway bash fest. That's all.
Post by: dscubame on January 31, 2014, 08:09:01 PM
In addition good ol Cascade Taxidermy deserves a great deal more than this mob mentality from the evidence throughout this thread.I agree. The mob mentality goes overboard here fairly often, but when you have a person who is proven to have a history of the kinds of stunts our friend Nathan has, he deserves all of the poor publicity we can collectively muster to help drive him out of business. :twocents:
Part of me agrees with you. Just remember that when you throw mud, you get your hands dirty. We've seen before how people judge the hunting community based on things that are said on this site. Even if he is (or isn't) a bad taxidermist, he is one of us as far as being a hunter and someone who is trying to provide for his family. Its not like we're talking about a wolf lover or a liberal.I will always take my stuff to natures way in graham For know on. Mike out there is a stand up guy and does some of the best work around. :tup:
I'd rather see more posts like these.
There are lots of bad apples in every community and we should strive to make our community better. This guys apparently is a hack - he's certainly never offered any evidence to the contrary. This is hardly mob mentality. The guy's been on here before and now, he's ruined someone's trophy again. We shouldn't stick up for someone just because they're part of our community, especially if they're hurting other members of our community.
We went to great lengths last night to verify what the OP had said as true. I think he did a pretty good job of giving us the information to confirm.
Sounds good by me. If I have a problem with a business I'd try to resolve it with them first, which it seems as though the OP did, and then post it here. Post some photos, let the truth be know, and call out the lies. But once all that is done I don't like seeing discussions become a runaway bash fest. That's all.
Honestly Bean you could simply not click on this thread and just not visit this anymore. There are hundreds of other active threads. No is forcing you to keep clicking here are they? I imagine we all decide to not revisit many threads in a single visit. Or in reality we all like a good train wreck, huh. :chuckle:
Post by: Bean Counter on January 31, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
Honestly Bean you could simply not click on this thread and just not visit this anymore. There are hundreds of other active threads. No is forcing you to keep clicking here are they? I imagine we all decide to not revisit many threads in a single visit. Or in reality we all like a good train wreck, huh. :chuckle:
That's typically good advice if a thread bothers someone. If I get there then I'll stop looking--thanks for the reminder. Truth is I'm completely ambivalent here. Threads like these take on a mob mentality and before we know it we're a dozen pages into it. I think the usefulness of the thread has run its course. Keep posting if you want to.
Cheers. :hello:
Post by: Bean Counter on January 31, 2014, 08:57:34 PM
...And to the "wolf lover" or "liberal" comment I judge a person by their actions, not by their belief system....
This reads nice on paper but doesn't pass the smell test when the rubber meets the road. You must know a lot of perfect people, Band.
I'm a liar. An adulterer. A thief. In the eyes of God if not in the eyes of the courts. I'm thankful that I will ultimately be judged by my belief system and not my actions. I don't think I'm perfect enough to be graced with your presence. :sry:
Post by: Band on January 31, 2014, 09:28:27 PM
A little overboard there, BC. Wouldn't you rather associate with decent people whose belief system doesn't align with yours than with, say, a fellow hunter who is a despicable person? I would....And to the "wolf lover" or "liberal" comment I judge a person by their actions, not by their belief system....
This reads nice on paper but doesn't pass the smell test when the rubber meets the road. You must know a lot of perfect people, Band.
I'm a liar. An adulterer. A thief. In the eyes of God if not in the eyes of the courts. I'm thankful that I will ultimately be judged by my belief system and not my actions. I don't think I'm perfect enough to be graced with your presence. :sry:
Post by: McCRIZZLEY on January 31, 2014, 09:33:47 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 31, 2014, 09:40:51 PM
A little overboard there, BC. Wouldn't you rather associate with decent people whose belief system doesn't align with yours than with, say, a fellow hunter who is a despicable person? I would.
I see where you're coming from. I hoped to escape liberalism when I emigrated from WA a few years ago but turns out they're alive and spreading even in red states. I work with a couple now and whether we're talking politics or just life you can always be courteous to people. Despite my ardent views I am nicer to them than many others. Yes, some of them I do happen to enjoy working with more than some conservatively minded people who happen to be tool bags.