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Equipment & Gear => Scopes and Optics => Topic started by: Curly on February 07, 2014, 09:57:43 AM
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Something that drives me crazy and happens all the time when I read discussions about optics.
I constantly see people incorrectly referring to the power of a variable scope like this: 3x9x40 or 4x12x50
Do guys that type it out like that also say it like they type it? Do they say: 3 by 9 by 40? or 4 by 12 by 50? :dunno:
Come on guys, that "x" is just shortcut for the word "by".
The correct way to type it is 3-9 X 40 or 4-12 X 50. Don't use an X where a hyphen is needed. It is a variable power scope of 3 to 9 power with a 40 mm objective.
:sry: Sorry for the rant. And I realize I should have just let it go. But maybe someone will get some benefit by this rant and stop incorrectly referring to their variable power scope.
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:bash:
Something that drives me crazy and happens all the time when I read discussions about optics.
I constantly see people incorrectly referring to the power of a variable scope like this: 3x9x40 or 4x12x50
Do guys that type it out like that also say it like they type it? Do they say: 3 by 9 by 40? or 4 by 12 by 50? :dunno:
Come on guys, that "x" is just shortcut for the word "by".
The correct way to type it is 3-9 X 40 or 4-12 X 50. Don't use an X where a hyphen is needed. It is a variable power scope of 3 to 9 power with a 40 mm objective.
:sry: Sorry for the rant. And I realize I should have just let it go. But maybe someone will get some benefit by this rant and stop incorrectly referring to their variable power scope.
Perhaps you should have posted it in here. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,146534.msg1942837.html#msg1942837 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,146534.msg1942837.html#msg1942837) :dunno:
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shouldnt the correct saying be---- 3 2 9 bye 40
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lol. Bunched panties alert. :yike:
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Perhaps you should have posted it in here. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,146534.msg1942837.html#msg1942837 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,146534.msg1942837.html#msg1942837) :dunno:
Yeah, I actually thought about that. But I didn't think it really fit. It's not a quote/saying so I figured Optics was a better place........... :dunno:
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shouldnt the correct saying be---- 3 2 9 bye 40
3 to 9 by 40 ;)
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shouldnt the correct saying be---- 3 2 9 bye 40
3 to 9 by 40 ;)
Yes. Thank you. :tup:
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I love my 2.5x12x42 ;)
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Probably because it is printed on the box and literature that way. :dunno:
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Darn you Wazukie. :bash:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I'f I'm looking at a deer....lets say it is a 5x5 with my 9x12x50 do I count the eye guards as a point? Also, if I do, is it an 8pt or a 4x4 with eye guards?
I'm so consfused.
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I'f I'm looking at a deer....lets say it is a 5x5 with my 9x12x50 do I count the eye guards as a point? Also, if I do, is it an 8pt or a 4x4 with eye guards?
I'm so consfused.
Only if the deer has horns :chuckle:
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We don't cout eye guards or brow tines here in the West. Leave that to those East coast "hunters". :chuckle:
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Ah yes.....of course the horns are what I was referring to!
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I'f I'm looking at a deer....lets say it is a 5x5 with my 9x12x50 do I count the eye guards as a point? Also, if I do, is it an 8pt or a 4x4 with eye guards?
I'm so consfused.
i cant even follow that statement
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FIXED 2 power. Its all I can afford.......
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We don't cout eye guards or brow tines here in the West. Leave that to those East coast "hunters". :chuckle:
Yes we do and so does the law :rolleyes: :chuckle:
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I'f I'm looking at a deer....lets say it is a 5x5 with my 9x12x50 do I count the eye guards as a point? Also, if I do, is it an 8pt or a 4x4 with eye guards?
I'm so consfused.
Only if the deer has horns :chuckle:
Deer don't have HORNS. >:( >:( >:( >:( Thats the only reason I hunt, now what ever will I do? :bash: :bash: It is what it is! :dunno:
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lol. Bunched panties alert. :yike:
OK, all joking aside, the OP makes a good point. Using the correct terminology does indeed improve our understanding of technical topics. For less experienced marksmen, this can be very important. Think of all the technical topics that are often misunderstood (ballistics in ammunition, or the difference between horsepower and torque).
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Must be a slow day. :rolleyes:
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I herd about this topic when I was watching a heard of cows this morning. They all had horns, all spikes. True spikes as a matter of fact.
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I got something to get off my chest too. I cannot stand when people hold the steering wheel at 9 and 3 , I mean come on people it has been 10 and 2 since the dark ages. How hard can it be. I thought this would go well in the "pettiest rant possible" thread. :chuckle: :sry: carry on
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I sense a new thread coming: commonly misused terms.
"Clip" for "magazine".
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I herd about this topic when I was watching a heard of cows this morning. They all had horns, all spikes. True spikes as a matter of fact.
Were you watching them with your 3x9 scope? :chuckle:
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:dunno: Huh... Does this matter? I didn't think about this till I read the post... Haven't decided...... I'll get back with you when I decide. Thanks. Slow day here too. If you come up with something else good like this, let us know. Now, back to making up my mind.....
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I got something to get off my chest too. I cannot stand when people hold the steering wheel at 9 and 3 , I mean come on people it has been 10 and 2 since the dark ages. How hard can it be. I thought this would go well in the "pettiest rant possible" thread. :chuckle: :sry: carry on
Hey! Start a new thread for your petty rant about 10 and 2. :chuckle: :chuckle:
I knew I'd take some heat for the rant. But hey, I've bit my tongue for years regarding the topic and my tongue was really starting to hurt so I thought I'd mention it.
I'm glad everyone can have some fun with it. :)
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I'f I'm looking at a deer....lets say it is a 5x5 with my 9x12x50 do I count the eye guards as a point? Also, if I do, is it an 8pt or a 4x4 with eye guards?
I'm so consfused.
Just put another high capacity clip in your AR and bust him.
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I got something to get off my chest too. I cannot stand when people hold the steering wheel at 9 and 3 , I mean come on people it has been 10 and 2 since the dark ages. How hard can it be. I thought this would go well in the "pettiest rant possible" thread. :chuckle: :sry: carry on
Hey! Start a new thread for your petty rant about 10 and 2. :chuckle: :chuckle:
I knew I'd take some heat for the rant. But hey, I've bit my tongue for years regarding the topic and my tongue was really starting to hurt so I thought I'd mention it.
I'm glad everyone can have some fun with it. :)
I got a kick out of it, when I opened it expecting something drastic! Pleasantly surprised! I am guilty of your pet peeve! Except even worse, for instance my binos are 10 x 42 x about 5 1/2" long. :chuckle:
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lol. Bunched panties alert. :yike:
OK, all joking aside, the OP makes a good point. Using the correct terminology does indeed improve our understanding of technical topics. For less experienced marksmen, this can be very important. Think of all the technical topics that are often misunderstood (ballistics in ammunition, or the difference between horsepower and torque).
Thank you pd. At least you understand. I thought maybe the rant could benefit someone that had been using the terminology wrong.
And no pianoman9701, I'd have to be wearing panties to get them bunched. Going commando today. :tup:
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And for the record: eye guards don't count, antlers not horns, and I may have seen a herd of bigfoots and heard a bigfoot...............and a 3x9 scope just doesn't let enough light in for my use. :twocents:
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When I run out of bullets in my automatic, I'm sticking in another clip to go after the heard of dear.
We had LOB (Legend Of Boom) last week, BPA (Bunched Panties Alert) this week.
What next? :yike:
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lol. Bunched panties alert. :yike:
OK, all joking aside, the OP makes a good point. Using the correct terminology does indeed improve our understanding of technical topics. For less experienced marksmen, this can be very important. Think of all the technical topics that are often misunderstood (ballistics in ammunition, or the difference between horsepower and torque).
And no pianoman9701, I'd have to be wearing panties to get them bunched. Going commando today. :tup:
:)
:yike: :yike: :yike:
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I'd have to be wearing panties to get them bunched. Going commando today. :tup:
Stay away from Capitol Hill in Seattle.
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I got something to get off my chest too. I cannot stand when people hold the steering wheel at 9 and 3 , I mean come on people it has been 10 and 2 since the dark ages. How hard can it be. I thought this would go well in the "pettiest rant possible" thread. :chuckle: :sry: carry on
Hey! Start a new thread for your petty rant about 10 and 2. :chuckle: :chuckle:
I knew I'd take some heat for the rant. But hey, I've bit my tongue for years regarding the topic and my tongue was really starting to hurt so I thought I'd mention it.
I'm glad everyone can have some fun with it. :)
10 and 2? i thought they changed that training recently in drivers ed or something??? i'll have to ask my teen sis-in-law again just for clarity?
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10 and 2? i thought they changed that training recently in drivers ed or something??? i'll have to ask my teen sis-in-law again just for clarity?
Today's teens use the "10 or 2" guideline. One hand is needed for texting.
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I got something to get off my chest too. I cannot stand when people hold the steering wheel at 9 and 3 , I mean come on people it has been 10 and 2 since the dark ages. How hard can it be. I thought this would go well in the "pettiest rant possible" thread. :chuckle: :sry: carry on
Hey! Start a new thread for your petty rant about 10 and 2. :chuckle: :chuckle:
I knew I'd take some heat for the rant. But hey, I've bit my tongue for years regarding the topic and my tongue was really starting to hurt so I thought I'd mention it.
I'm glad everyone can have some fun with it. :)
10 and 2? i thought they changed that training recently in drivers ed or something??? i'll have to ask my teen sis-in-law again just for clarity?
I'm not 100% sure but I think they changed it to 9&3 after airbags came around and people were breaking their arms across their foreheads. :dunno:
A buddy ended up with a good lump and an imprint of his wedding ring in his forehead after his air bags deployed in an accident. It has been 15 years since I took drivers ed though.
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10 and 2? i thought they changed that training recently in drivers ed or something??? i'll have to ask my teen sis-in-law again just for clarity?
Today's teens use the "10 or 2" guideline. One hand is needed for texting.
I was taught 3 and 9 because the airbag had more chance of break in your wrists at 10 and 2. I usually drive at 12 and burger. Sometimes 10. though sometimes I drive 12 and 10x42. If road hunting Its usually none on the wheel and all on my 4x12-50. Or 4 2 12 buy56 rarely see or hear a heard of true spikes including eye guards.
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Two hand driving rules don't apply to me, 'cause I only use one. I need the other for shifting!
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If we are talking road hunting then I should chime in again. I've ofen rolled on my 235x55x18 with my hands at 10xbud and my eyes on my 6 for the 5xO and the .270 in reach topped with the said mentioned 3x9x40. You never know when a deer with some nice horns will jump out and need harvested!
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10 and 2? i thought they changed that training recently in drivers ed or something??? i'll have to ask my teen sis-in-law again just for clarity?
Today's teens use the "10 or 2" guideline. One hand is needed for texting.
I just use my knees. I need my hands for my beer and joint. :chuckle:
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Easier if you just strap a little hookah to the corner of the bed. Then you can just pack it and run a snorkle into the cab through the slider. Duh.
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10 and 2? i thought they changed that training recently in drivers ed or something??? i'll have to ask my teen sis-in-law again just for clarity?
Today's teens use the "10 or 2" guideline. One hand is needed for texting.
I was taught 3 and 9 because the airbag had more chance of break in your wrists at 10 and 2. I usually drive at 12 and burger. Sometimes 10. though sometimes I drive 12 and 10x42. If road hunting Its usually none on the wheel and all on my 4x12-50. Or 4 2 12 buy56 rarely see or hear a heard of true spikes including eye guards.
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Better write a letter to all those scope manufacturers so the technical aspect of your "by" issue can get solved. :chuckle:
Start with the one's who use the 3x9x40.
Then you can hit up the ones who use 3-9x40.
Then you can do the thank you letters to the 3 by 9 by 40 manufacturers. Which one's are they anyways? :chuckle:
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10 and 2, 3 and 9...... Great, something else to worry about. I'll be pondering this one for a while too.. :bash:
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I hate all of your canted scopes too, every single one of them....... :chuckle:
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Better write a letter to all those scope manufacturers so the technical aspect of your "by" issue can get solved. :chuckle:
Start with the one's who use the 3x9x40.
Then you can hit up the ones who use 3-9x40.
Then you can do the thank you letters to the 3 by 9 by 40 manufacturers. Which one's are they anyways? :chuckle:
I haven't seen a manufacturer use the x x x designation. Maybe it's only the junk scopes that have that terminology? :dunno: :) Leupold, Bushnell, and Swaro do it the correct way. hmmm....
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10 at 2 is what I would end up with after using my 3x9x40 beer goggles at the bar
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Now that it is off your chest put your bra back on.. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I hate all of your canted scopes too, every single one of them....... :chuckle:
you sir, need to start us in mo' beta grammar. Because if your scope can'ted do it maybe you need a new one that can do it. scopes that cant are never good! :yike:
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Went bed at 2 with a 10 and at 10 I woke up with a 2........
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Went bed at 2 with a 10 and at 10 I woke up with a 2........
Hey, isn't that a song?
http://youtu.be/TbVYn1dokgQ (http://youtu.be/TbVYn1dokgQ)
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I hate all of your canted scopes too, every single one of them....... :chuckle:
you sir, need to start us in mo' beta grammar. Because if your scope can'ted do it maybe you need a new one that can do it. scopes that cant are never good! :yike:
............and that is, " cain'ted for you southern friends.............. :tup:
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Well I shoot a 7.62X64 with a 3x9x40 on top and 9.3X62 toped with a 2.5X25. I'm :dunno:
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One word. Open sights. :chuckle:
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:bash:
Something that drives me crazy and happens all the time when I read discussions about optics.
I constantly see people incorrectly referring to the power of a variable scope like this: 3x9x40 or 4x12x50
Do guys that type it out like that also say it like they type it? Do they say: 3 by 9 by 40? or 4 by 12 by 50? :dunno:
Come on guys, that "x" is just shortcut for the word "by".
The correct way to type it is 3-9 X 40 or 4-12 X 50. Don't use an X where a hyphen is needed. It is a variable power scope of 3 to 9 power with a 40 mm objective.
:sry: Sorry for the rant. And I realize I should have just let it go. But maybe someone will get some benefit by this rant and stop incorrectly referring to their variable power scope.
:dunno:
I can take a picture at a different angle if needed.
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Looks like Curly has a thing or two to take up with Burris.
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One word. Open sights. :chuckle:
That is funny, I dont care who you are. :tup:
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Looks like Curly has a thing or two to take up with Burris.
:yeah:
I should write them a letter. >:( :bash:
Are you sure you didn't photoshop that to mess with me? :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Dang. Here is more proof (sort of) that Burris uses that nomenclature on their scopes:
Note that they did use the X and dash (X-) on most of the labels when they were describing the variable power. I take it that the "x" means "power" the way they are trying to use it instead of "by" like I've been taught.
So the 3-9x40 scope they are using 3x-9x-40 which they are saying "three power to nine power by 40 mm" instead of what I would normally do which is drop the word "power" and simply shorten it to "three to nine by forty"; (the power and mm are understood and not really necessary to use shortcut for saying).
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I hate all of your canted scopes too, every single one of them....... :chuckle:
you sir, need to start us in mo' beta grammar. Because if your scope can'ted do it maybe you need a new one that can do it. scopes that cant are never good! :yike:
:chuckle:
............and that is, " cain'ted for you southern friends.............. :tup:
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I'm with you Curly, it bugs the $hit out of me too.
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I got something to get off my chest too. I cannot stand when people hold the steering wheel at 9 and 3 , I mean come on people it has been 10 and 2 since the dark ages. How hard can it be. I thought this would go well in the "pettiest rant possible" thread. :chuckle: :sry: carry on
Hey! Start a new thread for your petty rant about 10 and 2. :chuckle: :chuckle:
I knew I'd take some heat for the rant. But hey, I've bit my tongue for years regarding the topic and my tongue was really starting to hurt so I thought I'd mention it.
I'm glad everyone can have some fun with it. :)
10 and 2? i thought they changed that training recently in drivers ed or something??? i'll have to ask my teen sis-in-law again just for clarity?
I'm not 100% sure but I think they changed it to 9&3 after airbags came around and people were breaking their arms across their foreheads. :dunno:
A buddy ended up with a good lump and an imprint of his wedding ring in his forehead after his air bags deployed in an accident. It has been 15 years since I took drivers ed though.
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I actually use about 4 and 8 myself. Was shown it by an officer during a class when they had us drive an obstacle course with their vehicles. If I'm turning, I can bring the 4 hand all the way around to about 7 (and vice versa) before my leg gets in the way. If at 10 and 2, I lose a couple hours on my turn. :chuckle:
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Since we're all sharing, I have a really hard time with folks tooting down the highway in the left lane... it makes me daydream about becoming a state trooper.
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My leg hurts.
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I'm with you Curly, it bugs the $hit out of me too.
8) At least there are a few of us that it bugs. :tup:
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shouldnt the correct saying be---- 3 2 9 bye 40
:tup: or 3 to 9 bye 40?
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:bash:
Something that drives me crazy and happens all the time when I read discussions about optics.
I constantly see people incorrectly referring to the power of a variable scope like this: 3x9x40 or 4x12x50
Do guys that type it out like that also say it like they type it? Do they say: 3 by 9 by 40? or 4 by 12 by 50? :dunno:
Come on guys, that "x" is just shortcut for the word "by".
The correct way to type it is 3-9 X 40 or 4-12 X 50. Don't use an X where a hyphen is needed. It is a variable power scope of 3 to 9 power with a 40 mm objective.
:sry: Sorry for the rant. And I realize I should have just let it go. But maybe someone will get some benefit by this rant and stop incorrectly referring to their variable power scope.
I had to return to the beginning...to figure out this recent topic....and then this reply cracked me up
lol. Bunched panties alert. :yike:
and yes the xxx confuses me I am expecting something different from xxx....whereas numeral-numeralxnumeral means something totally different. :)
fyi my scope is 3-9x40
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:shouldnt the correct saying be---- 3 2 9 bye 40
:tup: or 3 to 9 bye 40?
3 to 9 bye 40. Like goodbye? Not.
3 to 9 by 40.
Since we are talking about being precise and all........
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Well, if we refer to our truck as a 4x4, then as far as I know it means 4 by 4 :dunno:........so Burris might have something there :chuckle: