Post by: bearpaw on March 03, 2014, 11:02:55 AM
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At the GMAC meeting Saturday, we were told that the WDFW had received 520 e-mails protesting the coyote derby we have going on right now in Stevens, Pend O'reille, and Spokane counties. This is really sad as it is the only half organized tool we have to take any toll on the coyotes which are depleting our deer numbers, as well as other game species at a very rapid rate. If we let this go the do gooders will win yet another small but important issue. The Fish and Wildlife does nothing to control predators in this state therefore it is up to somebody else to try something. These misinformed people will show up at the Commission meeting next Saturday in Moses Lake and protest coyote contests in the state [not just the one up here]. The Commission will listen to their whining and it will be passed on to the legislature, where they will no doubt do away with coyote hunting derbys. Just a short e-mail can help turn this event. I ask for your support in just sending a short but to the point email to Commission@dfw.wa.gov. in support of predator management. Perhaps we can at least make this a little more difficult for these uninformed people. Please send this message to all your email contacts who you think would agree. Thanks
I would like to ask all hunters to take one minute and send a short friendly message to the Washington Wildlife Commission now. You should also ask friends, family members, and members of any sporting groups you belong to do the same. Here is a sample message, add an additional point or two if desired, but keep it short and friendly:
Send To.... commission@dfw.wa.gov
Subject..... I Support Coyote Hunting Contests
Dear WDFW Commissioners,
I would like to express my strong support for coyote hunting contests. These contests provide a great deal of recreation for hunters across the state and much needed management of Washington's undermanaged coyote population.
Thank you for your consideration,
(your name & address here)
Post by: dc1608 on March 03, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
Thanks Bearpaw for posting this.
Post by: devldogs55 on March 03, 2014, 11:49:26 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 03, 2014, 11:51:05 AM
Post by: seth30 on March 03, 2014, 11:52:07 AM
Post by: TheHunt on March 03, 2014, 11:57:12 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on March 03, 2014, 12:00:35 PM
Post by: jackmaster on March 03, 2014, 12:01:48 PM
Post by: Curly on March 03, 2014, 12:23:02 PM
This is an issue that really irritates me about the WDFW. They manage based on public opinion instead of what is right. They should simply tell the people complaining about coyote contests to go away (you know, in a PC way of course). We should not have to flood them with emails to keep a right that benefits WA wildlife. :bash: But, if we don't, they will take it away.
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 03, 2014, 12:26:27 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on March 03, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
It's maddening that this is even an issue. How hard is it to understand that the game we pursue every fall we then want to protect during the critical winter months?
Post by: saylean on March 03, 2014, 12:57:37 PM
Post by: stevemiller on March 03, 2014, 01:10:45 PM
E-mail sent
They(WDFW) work for us,I think its time to relieve some of the WDFW from theyre duties if they want to join the anti groups on our dime.
Post by: bearpaw on March 03, 2014, 02:28:37 PM
We should take this op. to overt theyre(The people pushing this issue) att. to the over harvest of elk by Yakama Tribal members.The WDFW wont listen to the hunters they will only listen to the dogooders complaints,This is total BS.They(WDFW) are very quick to rip everything we do away from us in the name of some anti groups wishes but when we voice our Op. on a problem they give us the nothing we can do speech.
E-mail sent
They(WDFW) work for us,I think its time to relieve some of the WDFW from theyre duties if they want to join the anti groups on our dime.
I don't think WDFW is promoting this, the worry is that the WDFW commission may crumple due to the influx of messages from anti-hunters. The idea is to support coyote contests with a greater number of messages of support.
We lost hound hunting and trapping, we need all hunters to send messages or we may lose another management tool.
Post by: stevemiller on March 03, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 03, 2014, 03:24:31 PM
Post by: bearmanric on March 03, 2014, 03:37:06 PM
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2643473&page=1 (http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2643473&page=1)
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 03, 2014, 04:15:51 PM
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Post by: washelkhunter on March 03, 2014, 04:43:50 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 03, 2014, 04:47:32 PM
This message should be shared with other forums. All input counts.
:yeah: Anyone should feel free to copy any of the info I provided and post it on other forums.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 03, 2014, 04:50:51 PM
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Post by: Lucky1 on March 03, 2014, 05:01:30 PM
Post by: JLS on March 03, 2014, 05:33:06 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on March 03, 2014, 05:35:35 PM
Post by: Emptyhanded on March 03, 2014, 05:47:37 PM
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Post by: Kazekurt on March 03, 2014, 05:57:43 PM
Post by: Oldguy on March 03, 2014, 06:12:19 PM
Post by: whacker1 on March 03, 2014, 06:36:00 PM
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Dear WDFW Commissioners,
I would like to express my strong support for coyote hunting and some of the related contests. This predator hunting provides a great deal of recreation for hunters across the state and much needed management of Washington's undermanaged coyote population. Contests also haze Coyotes at one collective occasion, so the coyotes know that they are not welcome near farm land specific to the penning areas of farm animals. Coyote hunting is one more occasion for us to get our children outside and teach them how nature works, and contests provide a little additional incentive for the youth to have the desire to participate.
While I understand that hunting in general is not wildly popular by those that don’t understand it, I am also a realist and know that we that hunt provide a valuable resource to the states resources by managing said predators.
We have seen in various news reports where Coyotes have moved into suburban areas and how those coyotes interact with public. Typically this involves those that don’t understand hunting asking for expensive game department and sheriff department resources to remove the problem predator by using 911 or calling the State Patrol.
The state cannot afford loss of hunting revenue or the increased cost of game department/sheriff department resources to handle the future increasing coyote population.
Please support Predator hunting in all of its methods and types.
Thank you for your consideration,
Regards,
Post by: Tom Tamer on March 03, 2014, 06:41:38 PM
Post by: whacker1 on March 03, 2014, 06:46:02 PM
Being the nice group has not worked for us at all.Its time we started playing the same games as them.Build that fur coat like Joe,make some gloves,scarves,Boots,Hats and such and wear it always.If you encounter any BS sue theyre pants off.Im Gonna where everything I get.Just for them.
Make sure to send some to your relatives to wear as well. :tup:
Post by: bullcanyon on March 03, 2014, 06:48:15 PM
Post by: predatorpro on March 03, 2014, 07:13:51 PM
Post by: stevemiller on March 03, 2014, 07:19:42 PM
Post by: Tom Tamer on March 03, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
Tom Tamer-Agreed,But we have already showed them we will try theyre way,All while they have been systematically taking more and more from us,While giving and giving to the other side.They have restricted us in so many ways over the years,because the other side makes noise in numbers, its time we did the same.I think may ne my post is misconstured a little I am in total agreement with ou Steve. For me I will not quit hunting God gave me that right...(read Genesis for those who doubt it) not some pencil necked city dweller who doesn't know a wolf or coyote outside a disney flick. The gun rights the wolf(antihunting) horse crap . My sending the letter that we were asked to send is about the jist of it for me. I already know how our anti hunting WDFW will decide. So as stewards of the land properly we must keep on balancing the prey/predator levels. Their managing by public opinion and not scientific fact. Just the same way our moronic Gov't wages war anymore. They don't go in to win it it. They go in to win public opinion and mucks it up. We need to take our Country back. I have had discussions with my family that there may be somethings I get in trouble for. But Principles and freedom to try and ensure what's left of freedom for my kid is more important than money or even my life may it come to that.
Post by: Bshiftbc on March 03, 2014, 08:47:35 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on March 03, 2014, 08:51:40 PM
Message sent.....we're coming to a point in this country where we need to take a bigger stance more like civil disobedience and to start ignoring these Unconstitutional laws if they persist. Just as with the wolf hunting, our stance is being given lip service and falling on what appears to be deaf ears. Succh like these gun confiscation laws they are trying in other states. We will have to start bucking up and taking larger more meaningful stances should these continue. But for now I will play their stupid little game to show I tried to do it their way.Spring is here ...here comes travis :chuckle: :chuckle: Totally agree ..but when is it going to happen ? :dunno: :tup:
Post by: Jerry malbeck on March 03, 2014, 10:11:06 PM
Post by: KFhunter on March 03, 2014, 10:34:02 PM
When's the next coyote contest?
Post by: Curly on March 04, 2014, 08:40:23 AM
Post by: dmv9 on March 04, 2014, 09:07:28 AM
Post by: Carl on March 04, 2014, 10:48:42 AM
Carl
Post by: jasnt on March 04, 2014, 12:02:32 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 04, 2014, 12:13:13 PM
What states have the anti crowd successfully got coyote hunting contests banned? Kalifornia? :dunno:
bearmanric says they pushed predator masters out of New Mexico, they are moving it to Arizona.
Keep the messages going, get your family members and friends to send a message too. :tup:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on March 04, 2014, 12:24:31 PM
I've never participated in any derby's, but in light of this I think I'll start.
When's the next coyote contest?
I was thinking the same thing.
Post by: KFhunter on March 04, 2014, 12:58:35 PM
There is a Nation wide assault going on right now , Figured this would come down watching the board for the last few years , There is a lot to be said for keeping a low profile. Bowing up your back, Going postal and making idle threats will do nothing, You have to keep a lower profile and continue to do what YOU enjoy, Posting results on a public forum only adds salt to the wound . the bunny huggin do gooders out there will have nothing to complain about if your not showing it on a public forum,Dont you have to ask yourself why its so important to post your sucess on a public forum? Not saying you shouldnt have the right to do so , But is it really worth the hassle ? I agree , show Olympia how you feel, But in the end they will do as the (Your out numbered) dictates. As for me , Ill just keep doing what i do and keep it to myself , Isnt that what Predator hunting IS all about ? Silent in, Silent out, get the job done.
Interesting coming from you.
Furtakers Webisode 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625cMMILMfo#ws)
Are you against coyote derbies?
Most of us know your association with foxpro and you make some great hunting shows/videos and put down more coyote than most of us combined on HW.
guess I'm confused?
Post by: bearpaw on March 04, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
Post by: Special T on March 04, 2014, 01:35:50 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on March 04, 2014, 01:37:11 PM
As hunters we all need to support each other. One reason we keep losing one activity after another is because too many hunters only worry about themselves. We should all stand up for each other or we will continue to lose one activity after another. United we stand, divided we fall!
I just don't see it happening.
Your site is a good example of why it won't.
People around here are too focused on tearing others down.
That fish is too big or too small.
Deer is too small, the shot too far or too close to some road.
You can't shoot Elk with that caliber.
You can't call a rifle a toy
On and on and on
Post by: mulehunter on March 04, 2014, 01:46:18 PM
:hunter:
Post by: Special T on March 04, 2014, 01:47:33 PM
This place is as good/bad as you make it. :twocents:
Post by: bearpaw on March 04, 2014, 01:50:40 PM
As hunters we all need to support each other. One reason we keep losing one activity after another is because too many hunters only worry about themselves. We should all stand up for each other or we will continue to lose one activity after another. United we stand, divided we fall!
I just don't see it happening.
Your site is a good example of why it won't.
People around here are too focused on tearing others down.
That fish is too big or too small.
Deer is too small, the shot too far or too close to some road.
You can't shoot Elk with that caliber.
You can't call a rifle a toy
On and on and on
You are correct about the short comings, we all have to work to change that and to support each other or we will continue to lose. History has shown us what happens if we continue to not support each other.
Post by: KFhunter on March 04, 2014, 01:53:22 PM
As hunters we all need to support each other. One reason we keep losing one activity after another is because too many hunters only worry about themselves. We should all stand up for each other or we will continue to lose one activity after another. United we stand, divided we fall!
I just don't see it happening.
Your site is a good example of why it won't.
People around here are too focused on tearing others down.
That fish is too big or too small.
Deer is too small, the shot too far or too close to some road.
You can't shoot Elk with that caliber.
You can't call a rifle a toy
On and on and on
I think it's getting better, there's been quite a bit of push back on "ethics nazi's".
Sure there are some instances where it's called for, but at least most of them are little more careful how they provide criticism.
I've done my share of pushing back :chuckle:
so let's not jack the thread but instead self censor our kill shots, and refrain from posting up graphic pics on FB and other social media.
edit:
haha I just realized the tongue is hanging out on my deer in the avatar - that was a big ethic's nazi no-no at one time on HW :nono:
Post by: bearpaw on March 04, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
Post by: X-Force on March 04, 2014, 02:42:54 PM
Post by: Blacklab on March 04, 2014, 03:34:56 PM
Post by: Blacklab on March 04, 2014, 03:35:57 PM
We need more messages sent. The anti-hunters sent 520 messages, we need to surpass that, let's keep this going, get family and friends to send messages too. :tup: :hello:
Done! :tup:
Post by: jayrod9528 on March 04, 2014, 08:03:02 PM
Post by: littletoes on March 04, 2014, 08:25:08 PM
I DO choose to support my Brother's in this.
Message Sent.
Post by: Axle on March 04, 2014, 08:59:05 PM
Post by: Curly on March 04, 2014, 09:05:59 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 05, 2014, 04:22:32 AM
A few years ago wdfw made hunting coyotes with dogs illegal. I think the excuse they gave was "because it is not socially acceptable". That was a bunch of b.s. They must have caved to some pressure from some anti-hunters. >:(
I remember that well, my son and I were looking at buying some coyote dogs from Kansas, but it all went down the tube due to the commission and nobody was railing to keep it.
This is why we must have a loud voice, we must make it known that we will not tolerate any more losses in hunting opportunity. This really isn't just a coyote contest issue. This is an assault on all hunting, the antis are picking off one thing at a time, most hunters are too concerned about their own favorite sport and don't care about all the other sports we keep losing. Until more hunters realize this mistake and take a stand, we will continue to lose, one sport at a time.
Send a message today, do it now, your favorite sport may be next to be banned after the antis win this battle!
Post by: Elliott on March 05, 2014, 04:58:03 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 05, 2014, 05:34:46 AM
The problem is we have to many wanna be hunters that don't take their hobbies seriously and don't realize the impacts or want to get involved.
Post by: Duffer on March 05, 2014, 05:42:10 AM
Post by: Expedition Scout on March 05, 2014, 06:48:13 AM
Message sent!
Post by: fast1 on March 05, 2014, 08:50:56 PM
Post by: asl20bball on March 05, 2014, 09:00:26 PM
Post by: Mr.T on March 06, 2014, 12:57:14 AM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on March 06, 2014, 01:05:56 AM
Hay bearpaw, if its not on state land, do they have right to regulate events? Where as the season is open to all with a valid license I don't see how they can stop events that army on state or public land. If its private we should be good to go. I know I only hunt private... :dunno:
I would think it would be a blanket regulation. The state game board has regulation of all land in the state ( except where the tribes have their autonomy).
Post by: bearpaw on March 06, 2014, 05:50:12 AM
Hay bearpaw, if its not on state land, do they have right to regulate events? Where as the season is open to all with a valid license I don't see how they can stop events that army on state or public land. If its private we should be good to go. I know I only hunt private... :dunno:
I would think it would be a blanket regulation. The state game board has regulation of all land in the state ( except where the tribes have their autonomy).
Yes, WDFW has authority over all hunting activities, public or private land in Washington, except by the tribes.
Good job everyone, keep the messages going, ask your family and friends to send a message too. :tup:
Post by: Greenhorn on March 06, 2014, 11:35:38 AM
Post by: bearpaw on March 09, 2014, 03:27:39 AM
I would like to ask all hunters to take one minute and send a short friendly message to the Washington Wildlife Commission now. You should also ask friends, family members, and members of any sporting groups you belong to do the same. Here is a sample message, add an additional point or two if desired, but keep it short and friendly:
Send To.... commission@dfw.wa.gov
Subject..... I Support Coyote Hunting Contests
Dear WDFW Commissioners,
I would like to express my strong support for coyote hunting contests. These contests provide a great deal of recreation for hunters across the state and much needed management of Washington's undermanaged coyote population.
Thank you for your consideration,
(your name & address here)
Post by: Eburg fisher on March 09, 2014, 06:04:52 AM
Post by: janttihunter on March 09, 2014, 07:04:13 AM
Some states offer bounties for coyotes...
Post by: porcupine on March 09, 2014, 06:15:10 PM
Post by: PNW_Hunter on March 09, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
Post by: bearmanric on March 12, 2014, 02:17:22 PM
Post by: dontgetcrabs on March 12, 2014, 09:29:13 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 13, 2014, 07:57:53 AM
I would like to ask all hunters to take one minute and send a short friendly message to the Washington Wildlife Commission now. You should also ask friends, family members, and members of any sporting groups you belong to do the same.
Here is a sample message, add an additional point or two if desired, but keep it short and friendly:
Send To.... commission@dfw.wa.gov
Subject..... I Support Coyote Hunting Contests
Dear WDFW Commissioners,
I would like to express my strong support for coyote hunting contests. These contests provide a great deal of recreation for hunters across the state and much needed management of Washington's undermanaged coyote population.
Thank you for your consideration,
(your name & address here)
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 13, 2014, 09:08:36 AM
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Thank you for taking the time to email your comments to the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission.
Opinions and comments such as yours provide the Commission with valuable insight into fish and wildlife issues of concern to communities throughout our state. The Commission relies on public testimony, email, and correspondence to help determine what is working well and what requires more concentrated efforts.
Thank you for your interest in the conservation and management of the state's precious fish and wildlife resources.
Sincerely,
Tami Lininger, Executive Assistant
Washington Fish & Wildlife Commission
600 Capitol Way N, Olympia WA 98501-1091
Phone: (360) 902-2267
Email: commission@dfw.wa.gov or tami.lininger@dfw.wa.gov
WEB: http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/commission (http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/commission)
Post by: Elliott on March 13, 2014, 09:44:42 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on March 13, 2014, 09:47:10 AM
Post by: CoyoteChuck52 on March 13, 2014, 09:52:06 AM
Post by: CoyoteChuck52 on March 13, 2014, 10:16:57 AM
Opinions and comments such as yours provide the Commission with valuable insight into fish and wildlife issues of concern to communities throughout our state. The Commission relies on public testimony, email, and correspondence to help determine what is working well and what requires more concentrated efforts.
Thank you for your interest in the conservation and management of the state’s precious fish and wildlife resources.
Sincerely,
Tami Lininger, Executive Assistant
Washington Fish & Wildlife Commission
600 Capitol Way N, Olympia WA 98501-1091
Phone: (360) 902-2267
Email: commission@dfw.wa.gov or tami.lininger@dfw.wa.gov
WEB: http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/commission (http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/commission)
Post by: bearpaw on March 13, 2014, 10:23:06 AM
I would like to ask all hunters to take one minute and send a short friendly message to the Washington Wildlife Commission now. You should also ask friends, family members, and members of any sporting groups you belong to do the same
Here is a sample message, add an additional point or two if desired, but keep it short and friendly:.
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Send To.... commission@dfw.wa.gov
Subject..... I Support Coyote Hunting Contests
Dear WDFW Commissioners,
I would like to express my strong support for coyote hunting contests. These contests provide a great deal of recreation for hunters across the state and much needed management of Washington's undermanaged coyote population.
Thank you for your consideration,
(your name & address here)
Post by: Blacklab on March 13, 2014, 11:57:57 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on March 13, 2014, 12:19:38 PM
If I look at the email they sent in reply, it is two parts.
The first part is
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Opinions and comments such as yours provide the Commission with valuable insight into fish and wildlife issues of concern to communities throughout our state. The Commission relies on public testimony, email, and correspondence to help determine what is working well and what requires more concentrated efforts.
The second part is
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Thank you for your interest in the conservation and management of the state's precious fish and wildlife resources.
So my question is which one is it? Is it opinion/comments that drive decisions or is it conservation and management? It drive me crazy that the "professionals" use feelings from the under educated to trump sound science. :twocents:
Seems the answer is in their email. Thanks for being interested in conservation and management which is set by the opinions and comments of people who have a clear agenda that we choose to listen to over what we know to be true. :bash:
Post by: stevemiller on March 13, 2014, 08:00:53 PM
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on March 14, 2014, 08:56:05 AM
Post by: bearpaw on March 14, 2014, 06:25:51 PM
What is important is that 500 messages were received from the opposition, if hunters do not generate any messages of support then it would leave the commission thinking there is little support for coyote contests. Make no mistake, every message we send in support is very important.
Please keep the messages going.... :tup: :tup: :tup:
Post by: bearpaw on March 17, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
I would like to ask all hunters to take one minute and send a short friendly message to the Washington Wildlife Commission now. You should also ask friends, family members, and members of any sporting groups you belong to do the same
Here is a sample message, add an additional point or two if desired, but keep it short and friendly:.
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Send To.... commission@dfw.wa.gov
Subject..... I Support Coyote Hunting Contests
Dear WDFW Commissioners,
I would like to express my strong support for coyote hunting contests. These contests provide a great deal of recreation for hunters across the state and much needed management of Washington's undermanaged coyote population.
Thank you for your consideration,
(your name & address here)
Post by: kim204 on March 18, 2014, 05:44:35 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 19, 2014, 03:05:07 PM
Please keep them going...
Post by: thearcherykid on April 03, 2014, 12:11:52 AM
Post by: fast1 on May 24, 2014, 07:13:04 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on May 25, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
So anyone no the out come?
:dunno:
Post by: bearpaw on May 27, 2014, 03:59:09 PM
Keep the messages going, let the commission know that coyote contests are strongly supported. If you already sent a message take a minute and send another message. :twocents:
Here is a sample message, add an additional point or two if desired, but keep it short and friendly:.
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Send To.... commission@dfw.wa.gov
Subject..... I Support Coyote Hunting Contests
Dear WDFW Commissioners,
I would like to express my strong support for coyote hunting contests. These contests provide a great deal of recreation for hunters across the state and much needed management of Washington's undermanaged coyote population.
Thank you for your consideration,
(your name & address here)
remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease....
Post by: fast1 on May 28, 2014, 08:37:28 PM