Post by: huntingaddiction on March 06, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
I shoot a Bowtech Insanity CPXL at 299 fps with 448 grain arrows at 65#. I will mind you i also have a 32 inch draw length!
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Post by: stromdiddily on March 07, 2014, 01:31:03 PM
I prefer my right arm. Compound bows are for weenies. I can throw an arrow or spear faster then any of you guys can shoot with your expensive bows and I am much more accurate too. If I can see the animal with my naked eye then they are in range. :kneel:
Teach me your ways
Post by: vandeman17 on March 07, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
I prefer my right arm. Compound bows are for weenies. I can throw an arrow or spear faster then any of you guys can shoot with your expensive bows and I am much more accurate too. If I can see the animal with my naked eye then they are in range. :kneel:
Teach me your ways
It takes years of practice along with meditation and a strict diet of spinach for strength and cheetah steaks for speed.
Post by: stromdiddily on March 07, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Post by: RadSav on March 07, 2014, 02:14:53 PM
Crap. Guess all this broccoli and jaguar is no good then :dunno:
Nope, but your pee might disorient them long enough to get an arrow into one :chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on March 07, 2014, 02:37:02 PM
My slowest WA legal bow would be a Truth2 64# 400 grain arrow @ 276.43
Fastest WA legal bow would be a Motive 7 68# 405 grain arrow @ 309.46
As of today my favorite WA legal bow would be Experience 62# 390 grain arrow @ 295.76
Speed's calculated by sight-in 20 and 100 yards using Archers Advantage. Most chrono's I've used will give me an extra 5-8 fps over AA.
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 07, 2014, 02:51:48 PM
27" draw, 70# draw weight, 422 grain arows, FOC?
IBO 310, real speed :dunno: maybe 250?
Post by: turkeyfeather on March 07, 2014, 03:18:52 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 07, 2014, 03:27:39 PM
Yeah, well mine is bigger than all of yours and shoots a bigger....ah projectile than all yours. :chuckle:
It's all about the diameter of the projectile, not the speed. Micro diameter projectile :bdid:
Post by: RadSav on March 07, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
Bear Assault with a 440 gr Beaman Hunter ICS set at 70 lbs with a 29 inch draw. Only shoots about 279 fps but it's fun.
Quite possibly the best bow Bear has ever made :tup: Mine is Canada/Wyoming legal :chuckle: 70# 390 grain arrow @ 303.67. Sure puts the hurtin' on caribou, sheep, deer and antelope! So killer it's deemed unfair and illegal in the state of Washington ;)
Post by: bullfisher on March 07, 2014, 08:39:58 PM
Agreed.Bear Assault with a 440 gr Beaman Hunter ICS set at 70 lbs with a 29 inch draw. Only shoots about 279 fps but it's fun.
Quite possibly the best bow Bear has ever made :tup: Mine is Canada/Wyoming legal :chuckle: 70# 390 grain arrow @ 303.67. Sure puts the hurtin' on caribou, sheep, deer and antelope! So killer it's deemed unfair and illegal in the state of Washington ;)
Bear has made some major leaps the past 3yrs. But they have had some QC issue bows hittin the shelves. Glad they've stepped it up though.
Post by: RadSav on March 07, 2014, 10:14:52 PM
But they have had some QC issue bows hittin the shelves. Glad they've stepped it up though.
Growing pains I think. I spoke with my contacts there mid season last year. They were concerned because they couldn't hire and train good assembly workers fast enough to meet the demand. When value and performance collide things can get pretty exciting pretty fast!
I remember similar issues from just about all the major companies in years with huge growth spurts. One of the more amazing ones was when an entire order (at least 20 bows) from Xi came in with the cams on upside down (left hand orientation for right hand bows). Once had a Hoyt come back from warranty repair with the same issue. Took me a while to realize why the yoke was on the bottom limb. Kept looking at it saying, "Something's wrong!" Felt like an idiot it took me more than a second to figure it out - I think they revoked my genius I.D. card for that :chuckle: When PSE came out with the a-symmetrical idler wheel (awesome idea btw) I flipped more than one around that was installed backward. All seemed to happen when those companies were experiencing huge growth in a short period of time.
I settled on my Bear VIP bow today and got it ordered. Was back and forth with the Venue and Agenda 7 as well as 60 or 70# for months. Finally chose to go with the 60# Venue in Shadow black. That new S13 single cam was just too much for me to pass up for 10 fps in speed. Hoping it will replace my Darkhorse as the new blind bow of choice. I really like the smooth draw and lighter weight when stuck in a hot box all day waiting for a shot. Archers Advantage says I should expect 285 with a 6.5 grain arrow (4# less draw weight and almost 10 fps gain from the same arrow in the Darkhorse). Feeling sorry for those turkeys and antelope already!
Post by: Mudman on March 07, 2014, 10:26:24 PM
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Post by: RadSav on March 17, 2014, 08:28:30 PM
Oh and nothin but a hummin Cummins.
Sounds like a good name for an arrow shaft. I like it!
Post by: huntingaddiction on March 19, 2014, 06:57:48 AM
Mathews Z-7 Xtreme. 440g 28 draw 70# and chrono hits low 280's. 290 with 420grains. Seems pretty good. Plenty Fast for me. Best part is its not a bowtech! :chuckle:Well as for the Bowtech I used to shoot a Martin but realisically i had only two good choices. I have an actual 32 inch draw. So I could chose from the PSE Freak or The Bowtech CPXL. I went with the Bowtech and I love it!
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 19, 2014, 07:02:32 AM
you had several hoyt choices. Carbon matrix long drawMathews Z-7 Xtreme. 440g 28 draw 70# and chrono hits low 280's. 290 with 420grains. Seems pretty good. Plenty Fast for me. Best part is its not a bowtech! :chuckle:Well as for the Bowtech I used to shoot a Martin but realisically i had only two good choices. I have an actual 32 inch draw. So I could chose from the PSE Freak or The Bowtech CPXL. I went with the Bowtech and I love it!
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 19, 2014, 07:05:50 AM
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Post by: RadSav on March 19, 2014, 11:33:27 PM
I see. Doesnt Mathews have a z-9 or something for long draws? If not they should. :bash:
The Mathews Z9 is a piece of pooh poop! But the MR8 is a very nice piece of equipment. The CPXL has more speed than both the MR8 and the Hoyt long draw, has a better wall than the Hoyt, longer A2A than the Mathews and more dead in the hand than either the Hoyt or the Mathews.
The MR8 does have an 8" brace height and the C.Matrix +LD 7.5" which is sweet for the short bow stability when you have that long of draw length. The Carbon Matrix is almost 6.5 ounces lighter than the CPXL and the MR8 which is nice. But that's at a cost of about $77.00 an ounce plus tax!
I'd give the edge to the CPXL only because of the grip and balance. But I don't think you could make a wrong decision with any of them. All three are great bows!
Post by: RadSav on March 19, 2014, 11:43:14 PM
That bowtech is not allowed in my house this weekend it can stay outside :chuckle:
Someone doesn't want their short draw Hoyt to feel inadequate :'( That would be like parking your Hyundai next to a Lamborghini. You and your Hyundai always feel better about yourselves when you're parked beside a Yugo. Or in this case a Z7. :chuckle:
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Post by: demontang on March 20, 2014, 08:20:45 AM
:yeah: :chuckle:That bowtech is not allowed in my house this weekend it can stay outside :chuckle:
Someone doesn't want their short draw Hoyt to feel inadequate :'( That would be like parking your Hyundai next to a Lamborghini. You and your Hyundai always feel better about yourselves when you're parked beside a Yugo. Or in this case a Z7. :chuckle:
I love my cpxl its more like koenigsegg
Post by: demontang on March 20, 2014, 08:21:50 AM
That bowtech is not allowed in my house this weekend it can stay outside :chuckle:
Someone doesn't want their short draw Hoyt to feel inadequate :'( That would be like parking your Hyundai next to a Lamborghini. You and your Hyundai always feel better about yourselves when you're parked beside a Yugo. Or in this case a Z7. :chuckle:
:yeah:
I think my cpxl is more like a koenigsegg
Post by: bullfisher on March 20, 2014, 08:22:38 AM
That's funny :chuckle:That bowtech is not allowed in my house this weekend it can stay outside :chuckle:
Someone doesn't want their short draw Hoyt to feel inadequate :'( That would be like parking your Hyundai next to a Lamborghini. You and your Hyundai always feel better about yourselves when you're parked beside a Yugo. Or in this case a Z7. :chuckle:
Post by: huntingaddiction on March 20, 2014, 08:26:18 AM
That bowtech is not allowed in my house this weekend it can stay outside :chuckle:That's not fair I wouldn't want it to dissappear like your batteries! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on March 20, 2014, 08:43:52 AM
I think my cpxl is more like a koenigsegg:chuckle: It's even the right color!
Post by: demontang on March 20, 2014, 09:56:06 AM
Thats kind of why I said that car. It was the fastest production car for a short time.