Post by: Humptulips on March 26, 2014, 12:30:05 AM
Post by: Special T on March 26, 2014, 04:12:52 AM
But Really? You need a study to know that? :o
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 26, 2014, 05:20:10 AM
Post by: floatinghat on April 23, 2014, 08:31:00 AM
Post by: scotsman on April 23, 2014, 11:48:03 AM
++++Both researchers called for further research into ways of successfully managing both wolves and livestock so they can co-exist.++
Tralalala, can't we all just get along. Somehow I just can't get m head around wolves and cows "co - existing".
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 23, 2014, 12:58:16 PM
Post by: villageidiot on April 23, 2014, 09:41:34 PM
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++++Both researchers called for further research into ways of successfully managing both wolves and livestock so they can co-exist.++
Tralalala, can't we all just get along. Somehow I just can't get m head around wolves and cows "co - existing".
If wolves and cows are ever going to coexist then foxes in chicken houses, ants in your pants, rice in the desert, child molesters in an orphanage will all work well. This will never work and our ancestors that fixed it never suspected the human race would ever be so stupid to bring the cancer back.
This will go down in history as the biggest. Boondoggle the US Fish and Wildlife ever undertook.
Much more suffering will have to happen before we return to our sanity.
Post by: bearpaw on April 29, 2014, 05:51:38 PM
http://www.kptv.com/story/24899097/osu-study-cows-that-witness-wolf-attacks-suffer-ptsd-like-symptoms (http://www.kptv.com/story/24899097/osu-study-cows-that-witness-wolf-attacks-suffer-ptsd-like-symptoms)
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"When wolves kill or injure livestock, ranchers can document the financial loss," Cooke said. "But wolf attacks also create bad memories in the herd and cause a stress response known to result in decreased pregnancy rates, lighter calves and a greater likelihood of getting sick. It's much like post-traumatic stress disorder - PTSD - for cows."
A 2010 OSU economic analysis estimated that wolves in northeastern Oregon could cost ranchers up to $261 per head of cattle, including $55 for weight loss and $67 for lower pregnancy rates, according to John Williams, an OSU extension agent in Wallowa County who conducted that study.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 29, 2014, 06:28:13 PM
Luckily there are a few just like their ancestors and I think our ancestors would like to think that when they left us we the few would handle things the way the would of :dunno: Make sense :dunno: Just like this :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :lol4:.
++++Both researchers called for further research into ways of successfully managing both wolves and livestock so they can co-exist.++
Tralalala, can't we all just get along. Somehow I just can't get m head around wolves and cows "co - existing".
If wolves and cows are ever going to coexist then foxes in chicken houses, ants in your pants, rice in the desert, child molesters in an orphanage will all work well. This will never work and our ancestors that fixed it never suspected the human race would ever be so stupid to bring the cancer back.
This will go down in history as the biggest. Boondoggle the US Fish and Wildlife ever undertook.
Much more suffering will have to happen before we return to our sanity.
Post by: wolfbait on April 29, 2014, 06:49:06 PM
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++++Both researchers called for further research into ways of successfully managing both wolves and livestock so they can co-exist.++
Tralalala, can't we all just get along. Somehow I just can't get m head around wolves and cows "co - existing".
If wolves and cows are ever going to coexist then foxes in chicken houses, ants in your pants, rice in the desert, child molesters in an orphanage will all work well. This will never work and our ancestors that fixed it never suspected the human race would ever be so stupid to bring the cancer back.
This will go down in history as the biggest. Boondoggle the US Fish and Wildlife ever undertook.
Much more suffering will have to happen before we return to our sanity.
I think you are missing the point, there just needs to be more habitat, maybe a bigger hen house, pants, much larger orphanages etc.. Just ask WDFW's brain-washed biologists.
Post by: npaull on April 29, 2014, 07:18:28 PM
Is this good news? ... Wolves cause cows to have PTSD, therefore wolves are bad. Kill wolves.
Or bad news? ... Cows can have PTSD, therefore killing animals may be bad. Don't kill animals.
I could see it going either way... :chuckle:
Clearly it's win-win for anti hunters.
But I call BS on the whole thing.