Post by: seth30 on April 02, 2014, 06:06:47 PM
Post by: TheHunt on April 02, 2014, 06:49:46 PM
I have never heard that reloaded ammo makes you a bad guy
Post by: seth30 on April 02, 2014, 07:01:05 PM
Post by: ellensburgpo on April 02, 2014, 07:31:26 PM
Can you share your results?
I have never heard that reloaded ammo makes you a bad guy
:yeah: I've heard that said many times and it's never made sense to me.
Post by: TheSkyBuster on April 02, 2014, 07:45:58 PM
I carry Re-loaded Ammo for Self Defense. If any of you Internet Experts can show me a documented case where someone was prosecuted after defending themselves with Handloads when they otherwise wouldn't have been charged after using Factory ammo for self defense, I will make the switch to factory ammo. :tup:
Post by: hillbilli on April 02, 2014, 09:17:17 PM
http://www.gunforums.net/forums/general-gun-talk/5514-cases-where-handloads-caused-problems-court-mas-ayoob.html (http://www.gunforums.net/forums/general-gun-talk/5514-cases-where-handloads-caused-problems-court-mas-ayoob.html)
the fact that this has happened a few times , and has been documented does make factory ammo a clear choice for carry for me. cost is not really an issue, as other than checking function and maybe point of impact in your gun- it's not like you use a lot of rounds- a box of good hollowpoints for carry, and your practice loads for practice, etc.. not difficult. If the attorneys bring it up- you then have the nearly bulletproof resonse, "why did I buy gold dot hollowpoints?, because I read that it was one of the most common police loads"
Post by: Bofire on April 03, 2014, 08:08:39 AM
Post by: Alchase on April 03, 2014, 12:13:07 PM
"personal arsenal"
covers anyone with more then one gun or
"cop killer bullets"
for any wadcutter/hollow point/expanding round with or without a solid core. How about
"sniper rifle"
just about any hunting rifle bolt action or not.
And of coarse our favorite
"military style assault rifle"
for everything from ARs to black semi-auto rifles that just plain look scary.
Post by: 300rum on April 03, 2014, 12:56:42 PM
Mas made a big deal about reloads, he writes a lot of books, and people regurgitated what he said over the years. Find a case where someone was convicted in a legitimate SD case. I haven't found one yet.
below is a link to some cases written about by Ayoob where prosecution tried to use reloads against a self defense shooter..
http://www.gunforums.net/forums/general-gun-talk/5514-cases-where-handloads-caused-problems-court-mas-ayoob.html (http://www.gunforums.net/forums/general-gun-talk/5514-cases-where-handloads-caused-problems-court-mas-ayoob.html)
the fact that this has happened a few times , and has been documented does make factory ammo a clear choice for carry for me. cost is not really an issue, as other than checking function and maybe point of impact in your gun- it's not like you use a lot of rounds- a box of good hollowpoints for carry, and your practice loads for practice, etc.. not difficult. If the attorneys bring it up- you then have the nearly bulletproof resonse, "why did I buy gold dot hollowpoints?, because I read that it was one of the most common police loads"
Post by: TheSkyBuster on April 03, 2014, 01:46:04 PM
LEO's using handloads? I think if it supplied to me for free I would use it. I use Hand loads now because they're cheaper and I like to carry the same ammo that I practice with at the range. Same with my hunting rifles. I use the same ammo shooting from the bench as I carry in the field. (shotgun shells are a different story) I also wouldn't consider my handloads "deadlier" than factory self defense rounds. Mine are not really hot loaded and the bullets are less expensive JHP. Just whatever shoots good, but practice is important.
Post by: JLS on April 03, 2014, 02:09:42 PM
Post by: TVHunts on April 05, 2014, 06:42:34 AM
LEO's using handloads? I think if it supplied to me for free I would use it. I use Hand loads now because they're cheaper and I like to carry the same ammo that I practice with at the range. Same with my hunting rifles. I use the same ammo shooting from the bench as I carry in the field. (shotgun shells are a different story) I also wouldn't consider my handloads "deadlier" than factory self defense rounds. Mine are not really hot loaded and the bullets are less expensive JHP. Just whatever shoots good, but practice is important.
I believe he is asking if any LEO has been involved in such a case not the one using the hand loads