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Title: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: bravo on April 05, 2014, 11:28:15 PM: I have two rifle stocks that need to be replaced on my model 70 s and am considering laminated stocks . What are your thoughts ? Is it something a canyon diver should consider ?

Thank you for your thoughts. ~~~John
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: huntnphool on April 05, 2014, 11:42:33 PM: http://www.rifle-stocks.com/sporter_hunting_styles.htm (http://www.rifle-stocks.com/sporter_hunting_styles.htm)
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: RadSav on April 05, 2014, 11:57:51 PM: I guess it depends on how valuable weight is to you. If you can handle the extra weight canyon diving the laminated stock is great! But a real good fiber stock is going to be just as accurate and most are lighter in weight. Many of my favorite guns and most accurate guns are mounted in laminated stocks. I like the feel and the balance associated with a well made laminated stock. And I am quite anal when it comes to my guns accuracy. Though I also like my back country guns light. And that usually means sacrificing the balance I like for lightweight fiber stocks of high quality...or short action 20" barrel guns.

I'm sort of digging the laminated Mountain Tactical Co. Tikka T3 stocks right now. Thinking I may get rid of my Browning A-Bolt 7mm and making the switch to the Tikka/Mountain Tactical thumbhole. If I could have found a fluted barrel T3 in 7mm I would already have made the change.

I also hear that Stocky's Stocks is working on an aluminum block / laminated stock that might be available soon. I hope that is true. If it is I know two of my guns will have some new wood shortly there after!
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 06, 2014, 07:27:05 AM: http://www.boydsgunstocks.com (http://www.boydsgunstocks.com)
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on April 06, 2014, 07:41:16 AM: I put a Boyds stock on my 10-22 build. Maybe not as light as a composite stock, but a lot prettier! :tup:
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: arrowflinger on April 06, 2014, 07:57:59 AM: I have a couple of Boyds stocks on my rifles, love them. Great stocks and great value.
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: bravo on April 06, 2014, 08:19:38 AM: I really like the look and feel of a laminate . I do ok with regular wood but a lot of extra weight on my bad shoulder is a issue . When you say they are heavy what kind of weight are you talking about ? Are we talking pounds or two ounces difference with a long action sporter model 70 ?
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on April 06, 2014, 10:26:54 AM: I hefted my old 10-22 with the wood stock, and the new 10-22 I built, and the difference in weight was hard to feel, even though the new 10-22 has a bull barrel, and the old 10-22 has the stock slim profile barrel. The laminate Boyds stock might be a bit heavier due to the glue in the laminations, but I doubt you'd notice the difference. :twocents:
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: bravo on April 06, 2014, 06:29:26 PM: Things sound good for a laminated stock to me. I have a wtb. ad in the classified section and a site sponsor has replied and it sounds like he has one original and one laminate . We will see what develops. Thank you for your thoughts every one
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: Rich_S on April 17, 2014, 04:24:48 PM: Here's some pics of the Boyd's stock I put on a Weatherby Vanguard 7mm mag.

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Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: RadSav on April 17, 2014, 04:50:45 PM: Quote from: Rich_S on April 17, 2014, 04:24:48 PM
Here's some pics of the Boyd's stock I put on a Weatherby Vanguard 7mm mag.

Hey, anyone ever tell you to keep your hand away from the trigger guard until you're ready to shoot :chuckle:

That looks pretty darn nice to me :tup:
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: bravo on April 17, 2014, 06:29:08 PM: Wow that is a good looking outfit. i guess my biggest question is the weight difference ?. Did you weigh both your stocks . if so what is the weight difference ?
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: huntnphool on April 17, 2014, 11:28:28 PM: Outstanding, love the laminated stocks! :tup:
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: RadSav on April 18, 2014, 12:18:10 AM: Quote from: bravo on April 17, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
i guess my biggest question is the weight difference ?. Did you weigh both your stocks . if so what is the weight difference ?

When I have swapped out Walnut stocks for the similar style laminate the weight difference has been between 4 and 5 ounces. Laminate has been between 8 and 10 ounces heavier than the cheap molded stocks. I'm sure all that varies to some extent depending on manufacture, stock style and wood type/grade. IMO that should be a close ball park figure for most.
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: bravo on April 18, 2014, 05:50:07 PM: A few ounces is not too much to be concerned with. I could stand to loose a few ounces of spare tire and make up for that ! I have considered another glass stock but I broke one of those too so now I am a bit gun shy so to speak. The laminated stock is sounding better all the time. It sounds like they are a bit tougher than regular wood or glass also. As you probably can tell my horses and I tend to be hard on things . ...I really don't mean to be but I am not to sure about the horses. They know what a gun is for and when they here it go off they know it means they have to go to work!!
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: huntnphool on April 18, 2014, 05:53:56 PM: Quote from: bravo on April 18, 2014, 05:50:07 PM
A few ounces is not too much to be concerned with. I could stand to loose a few ounces of spare tire and make up for that ! I have considered another glass stock but I broke one of those too so now I am a bit gun shy so to speak. The laminated stock is sounding better all the time. It sounds like they are a bit tougher than regular wood or glass also. As you probably can tell my horses and I tend to be hard on things . ...I really don't mean to be but I am not to sure about the horses. They know what a gun is for and when they here it go off they know it means they have to go to work!!
Another nice feature is if you are indeed hard on it and scratch it, you just sand it, oil it and it looks like new. :tup:
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: Rich_S on April 19, 2014, 12:40:03 PM: Quote from: bravo on April 17, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
Wow that is a good looking outfit. i guess my biggest question is the weight difference ?. Did you weigh both your stocks . if so what is the weight difference ?

Didn't think about it at the time. I just weighed the factory stock (inc. recoil pad & sling swivel studs) and it weighs 2 lbs. 5.2 oz. I doubt there is as much difference as Boyd's web site indicates. They say the weight of the stock is "approximately 5 lbs.". IMHO, this is boilerplate wording to keep a customer from complaining his stock is "3 ounces over what you said".

Here's the stock I ordered - http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/product.htm?pid=10934&cat=1223 (http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/product.htm?pid=10934&cat=1223) in "Nutmeg". It was on sale at the time. Generally I am pleased with it except for the fact the trigger guard/floorplate was inletted too far. I needed to glass bed the floorplate to bring it out even with the bottom of the stock. IIRC, I had to touch up the inside of the stock around the action. But, they have a disclaimer on their web site about that.

Inletting it gave me an excuse to use the tube of lipstick my wife saw in my tool box. :chuckle:
Now, if I just didn't have to wear the pink panties she found in the glove box of the car . . .
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: bravo on April 19, 2014, 02:51:55 PM: Too Funny . Any way i looked at that stock on the link and it says 2.8 lbs. if that is the case that is not too bad for a good looking stock like that. Who knows i may not even break that one !!
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on April 19, 2014, 05:55:59 PM: Quote from: Rich_S on April 19, 2014, 12:40:03 PM
Quote from: bravo on April 17, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
Wow that is a good looking outfit. i guess my biggest question is the weight difference ?. Did you weigh both your stocks . if so what is the weight difference ?

Didn't think about it at the time. I just weighed the factory stock (inc. recoil pad & sling swivel studs) and it weighs 2 lbs. 5.2 oz. I doubt there is as much difference as Boyd's web site indicates. They say the weight of the stock is "approximately 5 lbs.". IMHO, this is boilerplate wording to keep a customer from complaining his stock is "3 ounces over what you said".

Here's the stock I ordered - http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/product.htm?pid=10934&cat=1223 (http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/product.htm?pid=10934&cat=1223) in "Nutmeg". It was on sale at the time. Generally I am pleased with it except for the fact the trigger guard/floorplate was inletted too far. I needed to glass bed the floorplate to bring it out even with the bottom of the stock. IIRC, I had to touch up the inside of the stock around the action. But, they have a disclaimer on their web site about that.

Inletting it gave me an excuse to use the tube of lipstick my wife saw in my tool box. :chuckle:
Now, if I just didn't have to wear the pink panties she found in the glove box of the car . . .

I got the Royal Jacaranda thumbhole stock for my 10-22 build. Talk about a gun that's too pretty to shoot! :drool:
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: yorketransport on April 19, 2014, 08:00:34 PM: I have a soft spot for the peppered laminate stocks. They're as strong as most synthetics until you get into the fiberglass/graphite composites. The laminates look a lot better though!

I've had a few of the Boyds and they're a great stock for the price. Sometimes they need a little sanding to get the fit just right, but never very much.

Andrew
Title: Re: Laminated rifle stocks
Post by: akirkland on April 23, 2014, 01:28:34 PM: Ordered a Boyd's laminate peppered stock last week. Pretty anxious to get it in my hands.