Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: jmaster4880 on April 21, 2014, 10:05:23 AM
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I'm looking at getting a few of the Toxic broad heads. What does everyone think of these? How well do they shoot? Looking at using them for Bear and deer this season. any inputs would be appreciated.
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Do a quick search.....there have been a few recent threads on this that will get you a lot of opinions with a few being first hand exp.
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:yeah:
I haven't used them, a friend did and swore by them sighting them in on targets. Then went hunting and cursed them. Quartering away shot and it just glanced off. That can happen with any broadhead if you hit just the wrong spot but it left a sour taste in his mouth and he say he won't use them again.
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Most experiences I've read on here have been bad ones. I would personally look at broadheads like wac'ems or something along those lines. I've been shooting the wac'ems for the past few years now and have never had a problem. My arrow flight has never been an issue and I've yet to lose or break a blade on one. Blood trails and holes in animals from them have been impressive.
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I've heard and read too many horror stories about Toxics to ever try them myself. This year I'm shooting Slick trick 125's for deer and bear and going to try the Solid S30V 125's for elk
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I've heard and read too many horror stories about Toxics to ever try them myself. This year I'm shooting Slick trick 125's for deer and bear and going to try the Solid S30V 125's for elk
Shot the elk in my picture with a Solid 125. Never knew what hit him! You will like them!
ET
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Any variation in a broadheads blade or ferrule design can impead its momentum and intended course through an animal. Any broadhead that comes with its blades "pre-bent" is begging for them to be bent even more upon impact. Can you kill a deer with them? yes. But can you find a better, more durable design? absolutely!
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Before you decide give the Shuttle T a try. They do not glance off and leave a HUGE entrance hole. Blind man could follow the blood trail. The blades are .040. They willl not bend or ever come out. They are dovetailed into the ferrel.
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Look ar what radsav has coming out :tup: ive been shooting muzzyx4 and the g5 strikers both o good heads
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I'd give up bowhunting all together if forced to use one! It is better than an Allen or an Atom though.
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Before you decide give the Shuttle T a try. They do not glance off and leave a HUGE entrance hole. Blind man could follow the blood trail. The blades are .040. They willl not bend or ever come out. They are dovetailed into the ferrel.
Are Shuttle Ts legal in Washington? the back side of the blade doesn't appear to taper toward the nock?
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Well this would explain why they have been on camofire all week...... I feel like such a sucker. I really should have listened to that MH. Now I have to explain to the wife why I need more broadheads.
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Shoot the new Savora heads. :tup:
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Before you decide give the Shuttle T a try. They do not glance off and leave a HUGE entrance hole. Blind man could follow the blood trail. The blades are .040. They willl not bend or ever come out. They are dovetailed into the ferrel.
Are Shuttle Ts legal in Washington? the back side of the blade doesn't appear to taper toward the nock?
I think they are legal. They do not taper towards the point and therefore are not barbed and can be used. They are great broad heads. I have killed a couple deer with them.
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I'd give up bowhunting all together if forced to use one! It is better than an Allen or an Atom though.
:yeah: I am embarrassed to say I tried the Atom head once. They are junk. Left no blood trail at all. I am sure the shot would have killed the deer with just about any normal broad head.
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Looking at the Muzzy Phantom SC broadheads now.
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Before you decide give the Shuttle T a try. They do not glance off and leave a HUGE entrance hole. Blind man could follow the blood trail. The blades are .040. They willl not bend or ever come out. They are dovetailed into the ferrel.
Great broadhead
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Shuttle T's or slick tricks no need to shoot anything else!
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Shot them last year for deer. Shot my buck at 13 yards found my arrow 47 yards away. The impact was awesome bleed the deer out in less then 10 feet. Died almost instantly. Will continue shooting these. They shoot equal with my field points put to 100 yards on my range. People love to hate these haha. I love them tho.
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Mmm new broadheads, What ever will I shoot this year...
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Mmm new broadheads, What ever will I shoot this year...
You shoot a Toxic and I'm no longer your uncle :tung:
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Shot them last year for deer. Shot my buck at 13 yards found my arrow 47 yards away. The impact was awesome bleed the deer out in less then 10 feet. Died almost instantly. Will continue shooting these. They shoot equal with my field points put to 100 yards on my range. People love to hate these haha. I love them tho.
I've had the same experience with Bear and Zwickey and Patriot and Bodkin and Bolo and WASP and Satellite and Razorbak 4 and Savora and Magnum and Anderson and Rocky Mountain and Rothaar and MA3 and Ace and... ;) My nephew even had the same experience with that gawd awful Crimson Talon! Good shots make just about every broadhead look good!
It's those not so good shots where good vs bad really show. And a great broadhead shows equally well on those non lethal shots allowing the animal to recover and survive for the next time you meet instead of dying a slow painful death weeks later. That's the biggest issue I have with all the cookie cutters that have come and gone.
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Shot them last year for deer. Shot my buck at 13 yards found my arrow 47 yards away. The impact was awesome bleed the deer out in less then 10 feet. Died almost instantly. Will continue shooting these. They shoot equal with my field points put to 100 yards on my range. People love to hate these haha. I love them tho.
I've had the same experience with Bear and Zwickey and Patriot and Bodkin and Bolo and WASP and Satellite and Razorbak 4 and Savora and Magnum and Anderson and Rocky Mountain and Rothaar and MA3 and Ace and... ;) My nephew even had the same experience with that gawd awful Crimson Talon! Good shots make just about every broadhead look good!
It's those not so good shots where good vs bad really show. And a great broadhead shows equally well on those non lethal shots allowing the animal to recover and survive for the next time you meet instead of dying a slow painful death weeks later. That's the biggest issue I have with all the cookie cutters that have come and gone.
So far myself and a buddy have taken 2 deer 2 Turkey and a bear with the toxic heads. All shots have been devastating and killed the animal quickly. I have had no negative experience with them as of yet. Until I do I will continue to shoot them. The bow i am using might make a difference as well in how devastating the cut is. Shooting a hoyt carbon spyder 34 @#80. Used to shoot the shuttle ts and the terminal ts.
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I just bought these to try them out on a turkey video and pics to come soon ;)
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Turkey isn't quite the same as elk
Been shooting slick tricks and they shoot fine and created great blood trails.
I also share radsav's concern about toxics.
A friend of mine gave me a couple toxics, but I think i will use them for small game or sell them.
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A friend of mine gave me a couple toxics, but I think i will use them for small game or sell them.
Keep ahold of them. They will likely be collectable in another ten years like all the other cookie cutters.
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I will throw in my useless :twocents: on this :dunno: :dunno: Wasp or Radsav's broadheads for me ... have not tried Radsav's broadheads yet but I plan on giving them a try shortly :tup: