Post by: Barefoot_Sasquatch on April 25, 2014, 05:55:53 PM
I'm looking for a 12ga shotgun (I've only ever fired 12ga shotguns so it's what I'm used to) that is both affordable and reliable. I'd like to have it on hand for home defense, but also something that would work for hunting deer.
Any educated/experienced recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Post by: syoungs on April 25, 2014, 05:59:35 PM
I bought a remington 11-87 a few years back brand new for $500, probably been through 4k rounds between hunting ducks and skeet, never has it faltered. to me that is cheap.
whats your budget?
Post by: Bofire on April 25, 2014, 06:58:27 PM
Carl
Post by: BigGoonTuna on April 25, 2014, 07:21:23 PM
Post by: elkaholic123 on April 25, 2014, 07:38:06 PM
Post by: jackmaster on April 25, 2014, 07:39:44 PM
:) Remington 870 pump, 3 inch chamber, Rem chokes. Wingmaster is best, Express will work. Vent rib is nice.:yeah:they are indestructible guns, one has been through hell and back and I never have to sweat it
Carl
Post by: Bmcox86 on April 25, 2014, 07:51:02 PM
I like my Benelli Nova's
:yeah:
Post by: RB on April 25, 2014, 07:55:23 PM
was gonna say used remington 870 or mossberg 500.:yeah:
Mossberg all day long for inexpensive reliable shotgun that be configured any way you want :twocents:
Post by: silverdalesauer on April 25, 2014, 08:04:46 PM
Post by: Redbeard on April 25, 2014, 08:11:45 PM
Post by: Lingcod on April 25, 2014, 08:46:24 PM
Post by: Jingles on April 25, 2014, 09:02:12 PM
Pretty much has already been said, I have all 3. Mossberg 500, rem 870, Benelli Nova My favorite is the Nove but only because I got it from my brother. If I were you though I would go for the mosseberg, you can have a tac barrel and slug barrel. Very easy to change out to tac when you're not hunting with it, plus lots of after market goodies. Used ones are easy to find and cheap
Can do the same with the 870 plus add and extended Magazine. Presently waiting for my new 870 barrel and extra full extended turkey choke for MY 1970'S WINGMASTER
But like was said earlier cheap and dependable is kind of an oxymoron better to go with good and dependable then throw in reliable IMO can't beat the 870 for a pump gun
Post by: lewy on April 25, 2014, 09:08:27 PM
Post by: Lingcod on April 25, 2014, 09:16:30 PM
Pretty much has already been said, I have all 3. Mossberg 500, rem 870, Benelli Nova My favorite is the Nove but only because I got it from my brother. If I were you though I would go for the mosseberg, you can have a tac barrel and slug barrel. Very easy to change out to tac when you're not hunting with it, plus lots of after market goodies. Used ones are easy to find and cheap
Can do the same with the 870 plus add and extended Magazine. Presently waiting for my new 870 barrel and extra full extended turkey choke for MY 1970'S WINGMASTER
But like was said earlier cheap and dependable is kind of an oxymoron better to go with good and dependable then throw in reliable IMO can't beat the 870 for a pump gun
Either or, both are great. However Mossbergs warranty is 10 year and Remington only 2 years. Plus the Duck Commander guys are paid to promote Mossberg so they must be better :chuckle:
Post by: Bean Counter on April 25, 2014, 09:22:49 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 25, 2014, 10:08:42 PM
What does an 870 go for these days anyway? $450?You can buy a used one for $350 all day with a little web surfing.
Post by: CamoDup on April 25, 2014, 10:24:47 PM
Post by: Mtn.Ghost on April 25, 2014, 10:25:23 PM
The 870 Express pump can be bought new for $250-$300 depending were your looking. This gun is very affordable and easily modified to your needs from hunting birds with the interchangeable choke system to big game with available slug barrels or convert to tactical with endless options.
The Rem. 11-87 sportsman is also very good if you can find one, it's the poor mans version of the once highly respected Rem. 1100 they are semi-auto guns. There is also endless mods avail for this one also.
I have one of all 4 models mentioned. The 11-87 auto loader, I made tactical by adding a 9 round extended mag tube, spring kit, combat glow sight, receiver mounted shell holder, composite stock with shell holder on the butt stock, Nylon tactical sling that holds 20 rounds. I load it alternating every other round 00-Buck then 1oz HP slug ect.
It has a name " Black Bart" when he's all outfitted and ready to rock he's 45 rounds of fire and lead breathing furry as fast as you can feed him :mgun2:
Now the 870 wingmaster is not a cheap one you will pay $550-$600+ for new ones.
Post by: Bean Counter on April 26, 2014, 03:27:21 AM
two problems that were easily fixed:
- The rear ghost ring sight was loose. It actually popped off a few times at my first trip to the range. A little Lock-Tite and this is an easy fix.
- The buffer tube was a little sticky and didn't reliably cycle new rounds into the action. I pulled out the buffer tube spring and stretched it out. Then I stuck my cleaning rod into my drill and threw a CLP soaked rag on there and cleaned the tube out. Cycled more than 100 rounds since then without a single hiccup.
Post by: dawei on April 27, 2014, 04:53:44 PM
Hello, I have not yet owned a firearm. I was about to buy a Mossberg 500 tactical for $150 but the deal fell through (seller's wife got rid of it before I got there).If you watch the sales ads Big 5 has Mossberg® 12 & 20ga pumps on sale for $309-319.99 every month. Also these guns come with two barrels.
I'm looking for a 12ga shotgun (I've only ever fired 12ga shotguns so it's what I'm used to) that is both affordable and reliable. I'd like to have it on hand for home defense, but also something that would work for hunting deer.
Any educated/experienced recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I have two Mossberg® Mdl 500's (12 & 20ga) bought in 2000. In all that time I've never had a malfunction of any kind. Can't say the same for my Remington® guns.
• Mossberg® has a 10 year warranty, Remington® 1 year.
• Mossberg® has an ambidextrous safety, Remington® does not.
• Mossberg® is drilled & tapped, Remington® is not.
• Mossberg® comes with 3 chokes, Remington® with only 1.
• Mossberg® comes with a sling, Remington® does not.
• You get more gun, for less money with Mossberg®.
Post by: pashok23 on April 27, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
Post by: johnr060 on April 27, 2014, 06:34:44 PM
Post by: toddtms on April 27, 2014, 08:11:16 PM
I would say that the Mossberg 500 is another good choice, but in my opinion, it is not the 870.
Good luck
Post by: Buzz2401 on April 28, 2014, 07:32:35 AM
Post by: JLS on April 28, 2014, 07:35:22 AM
As many have stated above, you can't go wrong with the Remington 870 pump. There is a reason that Law Enforcement agencies across the U.S. trust the 870 every day.
Actually, Mossberg has made substantial inroads into law enforcement. The 870 is by no means the only game in town anymore.
Post by: dawei on April 28, 2014, 03:48:57 PM
That is so true! Mossberg® is the shotgun our military uses...As many have stated above, you can't go wrong with the Remington 870 pump. There is a reason that Law Enforcement agencies across the U.S. trust the 870 every day.
Actually, Mossberg has made substantial inroads into law enforcement. The 870 is by no means the only game in town anymore.
Post by: Bmcox86 on April 28, 2014, 04:02:25 PM
That is so true! Mossberg® is the shotgun our military uses...As many have stated above, you can't go wrong with the Remington 870 pump. There is a reason that Law Enforcement agencies across the U.S. trust the 870 every day.
Actually, Mossberg has made substantial inroads into law enforcement. The 870 is by no means the only game in town anymore.
Not totally true. Some marine units carry a benelli and the coast guard carries the 870
Post by: bearpaw on April 28, 2014, 04:08:22 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on April 28, 2014, 04:11:09 PM
I own both models of Mossberg and a Rem 870, I like them all but think the 870 will outlast any Mossberg.
I own both. I just like the fit and feel of the 870 way better. Mossbergs slide feels kinda sloppy.
Post by: Dutchie on April 29, 2014, 07:15:41 AM
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Post by: magnanimous_j on April 29, 2014, 07:24:44 AM
All in all, a pump shotgun is about the most simple firearm there is. It's kinda hard to go wrong.
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 29, 2014, 07:27:27 AM
Post by: baldopepper on April 29, 2014, 07:57:13 AM