Hunting Washington Forum
Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: washelkhunter on April 29, 2014, 12:45:59 PM
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I would like the WDFW to consider implementing a trad/primitive weapon only season. Long bows, recurves and sidelock muzzleloaders ONLY. Compounds, crossbows and inlines relegated to Modern. T/PW Season to start 2nd sat of Sept to Sept 30th. :tup:
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I don't see that ever happening. Too many compounds and in-lines, which means the potential user group would be very small. I do like the start date and length of your proposed hunting season. But, it would end of Oct 1st, since there are only 30 days in Sept.
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That's not primitive enough. Handmade spears and knives would be great.
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Good luck with that ever happening.
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I'm going to have to disagree. Not because I don't think the idea has merit, simply because the seasons would get cut for others. Now...maybe a few special permit tags...something like that I could see happening much easier.
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I know several hunters for whom the use of a modern centerfire should be considered primative.
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Easier to just go permit only for all elk and end the weapon selection for tags.
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You mean "TRAD" right? Primitive is stone and sticks. lol
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I like the idea....but who gets to decide what is considered primitive or even traditional.....fiberglass o.k. or does it have to be an all wood selfbow to qualify? Wood arrow and stone points and real feathers...or are alumimun or carbon with steel points o.k. :rolleyes:
But hey, I do like the idea for sure!
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Bolt action Centerfire rifles have been around longer than inline muzzies and compound bows. Does that make my ruger 30-06 more of a traditional weapon than my Hoyt? :chuckle: :rolleyes:
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Primitive weapons for a month? You may need a year....primitive weapons are sticks and stones.
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I like the idea, I would go to a recurves in a heart beat for its own season. That is my next step anyway, stuck on compound now but would like to someday build my own bow & arrow set to hunt with. A traditional season would spark me into it.
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Maybe have primitive and general archery overlap or something. Primitive goes from 2nd-21st while general archery goes 8th-21st... Gives a few days out ahead of general archery but still doesn't take away from days.
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Their is not enough hunting time to have all these different weapons. From Sept. to Jan. their is hunting, and you have to give them animals a break. Archery has the longest seasons, and the modern has the least and the worst times of the year for hunting. They don't get to hunt deer or elk during their ruts. You have a few areas for whitetail and that is it. I am an archery hunter and have been for 45yrs, and you can go out and hunt with your longbow just as long as a compound shooter or a recurve shooter. I like the way things are for archery and would fight like hell to keep the way it is. You can hunt with all three of those weapons during the archery season, I mean you can choose to hunt with a longbow in the morning and hunt with the recurve in the evening and the next day you can hunt with you compound. Why in the world would you want to change that.
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Just switch early archery to primitive and extend it a week. Late season can be primitive and modern archery/ml.
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If you want to hunt with primitive weapons you should have to wear buckskins and use 100 year old binoculars.Just to keep up with tradition. :hunter:
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They could open up the other GMUs at the same time. So, primitives could have the option to go to a different unit.
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You already have the choice to use "primitive weapons, just pick the time of season you want to hunt and use whatever "primitive weapon" you want to use. :twocents:
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You already have the choice to use "primitive weapons, just pick the time of season you want to hunt and use whatever "primitive weapon" you want to use. :twocents:
:yeah: they cant manage the season we currently have...i cant imagine how they'd ever attempt this intelligently
Beings that the trad crew is a pretty small amount of hunters the idea of giving special permits for them would be kinda cool...it would be a tool to spread hunters out in the aplication system
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I hear the what you want to see considered... but nothing about the why. What do you feel would be gained with a separate season for such a small and select group? :dunno: You want to have a separate harvest rate category and your own special hunt and oil tag drawing allocations?
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I think you need to look at how some other states do it. Last time i checked OR had a few GMU or drainages in E OR that were Trad only areas WITHIN the archer season. I think that something like that MAY have a bigger chance of happening. ANTHING that further divides hunters against each other is BAD! Check into a how the other states do it and report back.
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"Let's have a primitive weapon season."
Translation: "I want to hunt elk in the rut"
Effect, Everyone doing "modern" archery, switches to trad and hunts the rut.
What could go wrong?
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The use of these weapons is already allowed. Creating a season for this tiny group - NO, not in favor.
I'd like to see the muzzle loader and archery seasons run at the same time in their respective GMU's and lengthen the season for both.
Creating another group would only shorten existing seasons with no real benefit to anyone.
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"Let's have a primitive weapon season."
Translation: "I want to hunt elk in the rut"
Effect, Everyone doing "modern" archery, switches to trad and hunts the rut.
What could go wrong?
:yeah:
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I would like the WDFW to consider implementing a trad/primitive weapon only season. Long bows, recurves and sidelock muzzleloaders ONLY. Compounds, crossbows and inlines relegated to Modern. T/PW Season to start 2nd sat of Sept to Sept 30th. :tup:
Absolutely! No wheels, cables, inline ignition. Can't see why anybody would be against that, no training wheels needed. Ha. I use a flintlock in muzzleloader season anyway and shot a longbow till my shoulder quit on me. Add a little sport to your adventure.
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This is an idea I have thought about for years but like others have already said, WDFW would have to spread the other weapon seasons that much thinner to make it happen, which nobody likes. Now what about having select draw permit specificly for "traditional" methods? Then the hunter numbers and animal harvest could be controlled and not effect the main seasons.
As far as equipment limits that would define "traditional", I dont know that limiting archery to wood arrows, stone points or longbow only would be accepted by all archers. Maybe just limit it to zero percent let off and fixed blade broadheads only. Maybe even no cams of any kind either.
I dont know enough about muzzleloaders to know what would be traditional enough to fall into that same category. Scopes are already not legal in ML season if I remember right.
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I would personally entertain a flint/cap lock, round ball deer season....... :tup:
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Think it's a neat idea man but would never happen :-(
