Post by: Elkstuffer on April 30, 2014, 06:30:39 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 30, 2014, 06:43:26 PM
:chuckle: Did you notice that they also decreased our backyard sheep tags? :bash: :bash:the mucks might have started hunting them, or yak's?
Post by: idahohuntr on April 30, 2014, 07:18:03 PM
Anyone else notice that every one of the Once in a Lifetime tags, except youth, all had 10 and 11 average points to draw last year? Even the units that only gave out 1 tag. This tells me that everyone with 12 or more points already surpassed there opportunity to draw one of these tags :chuckle: . Unfortunately I'm in that category also >:(:chuckle: Yes. I also noticed the last 3 powerball jackpot winners were an average 49 years old. An equally useful statistic to wdfw's average points.
Post by: Bob33 on April 30, 2014, 08:13:50 PM
For "any moose" in 2013, applicants drew with every number of actual points from 2 to 18. This table lists points, applications, and successful applications for each point level.
20 5 0
19 7 0
18 372 10
17 238 3
16 244 7
15 638 8
14 648 6
13 675 9
12 766 4
11 873 6
10 1,032 4
9 1,107 3
8 1,147 5
7 1,303 4
6 1,430 1
5 1,505 3
4 1,608 1
3 1,790 1
2 1,766 1
1 2,533 0
Post by: bobcat on April 30, 2014, 08:16:25 PM
Except for those with 1 point, correct?
Post by: Bob33 on April 30, 2014, 08:17:40 PM
"For "any moose" in 2013, applicants drew with every number of actual points from 1 to 18"From 2 to 18. :tup:
Except for those with 1 point, correct?
Post by: snowpack on April 30, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Post by: huntnnw on April 30, 2014, 11:02:15 PM
Post by: starbailey on May 01, 2014, 06:13:47 AM
[/quote]the mucks might have started hunting them, or yak's?
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The Yakama and Muckelshoots have been hunting bighorns for several years. You wouldn't like to hear how many tags they give out!
Post by: RadSav on May 01, 2014, 06:42:11 AM
"For "any moose" in 2013, applicants drew with every number of actual points from 2 to 18"
Those 12 guys at the top must figure WDFW hates them even more than they hate me :yike:
I also noticed the last 3 powerball jackpot winners were an average 49 years old. An equally useful statistic.
NICE! :chuckle:
Post by: EyeTooth on May 01, 2014, 11:00:42 PM
Post by: PA BEN on May 12, 2014, 06:52:43 PM
points mean nothing in this state other than a recipt showing you have applied this many times! really all about your name in the hat and pure luckYeah, your names in the hat how ever many points you have. I drew in '08 w/10 points. 49 had 22 tags that year and 14000 put in for it.
Post by: Falcon on May 12, 2014, 08:30:39 PM
points mean nothing in this state other than a recipt showing you have applied this many times! really all about your name in the hat and pure luckYeah, your names in the hat how ever many points you have. I drew in '08 w/10 points. 49 had 22 tags that year and 14000 put in for it.
:yeah:
Pa Ben
I like your attitude!
I have 17 pts for moose.
I hope inherit your luck :tup:
Post by: B.G.hunter on May 18, 2014, 05:44:36 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 18, 2014, 06:58:03 PM
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Post by: B.G.hunter on May 18, 2014, 08:25:51 PM
There is no such thing as "average points to draw."Yes but it was the average points people who drew. Now it is the average points of the people who apply.
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Post by: idahohuntr on May 18, 2014, 08:34:09 PM
Interesting...where did you find that? I see in the regs it says Apps/Avg pts but I did not see where they define what avg pts are...would not surprise me if they changed up some of their false advertising :chuckle:There is no such thing as "average points to draw."Yes but it was the average points people who drew. Now it is the average points of the people who apply.
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Post by: B.G.hunter on May 18, 2014, 08:39:58 PM
Look at the regulations then look at the points used category. Example Vulcan mountain sheep tag the recipient had 17 points the regulations show "average points" 10.Interesting...where did you find that? I see in the regs it says Apps/Avg pts but I did not see where they define what avg pts are...would not surprise me if they changed up some of their false advertising :chuckle:There is no such thing as "average points to draw."Yes but it was the average points people who drew. Now it is the average points of the people who apply.
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Post by: idahohuntr on May 18, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
Post by: Bob33 on May 18, 2014, 08:57:09 PM
If true that is a more meaningful statistic. Average points of 10 for all Vulcan sheep apps means there are 120,000 names in the hat for 1 tag: 10 squared times 1200 apps. Pretty easy to figure our your odds for that one.Look at the regulations then look at the points used category. Example Vulcan mountain sheep tag the recipient had 17 points the regulations show "average points" 10.Interesting...where did you find that? I see in the regs it says Apps/Avg pts but I did not see where they define what avg pts are...would not surprise me if they changed up some of their false advertising :chuckle:There is no such thing as "average points to draw."Yes but it was the average points people who drew. Now it is the average points of the people who apply.
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Post by: B.G.hunter on May 18, 2014, 09:39:29 PM
I know but it is interesting that the WDFW would do something like that.If true that is a more meaningful statistic. Average points of 10 for all Vulcan sheep apps means there are 120,000 names in the hat for 1 tag: 10 squared times 1200 apps. Pretty easy to figure our your odds for that one.Look at the regulations then look at the points used category. Example Vulcan mountain sheep tag the recipient had 17 points the regulations show "average points" 10.Interesting...where did you find that? I see in the regs it says Apps/Avg pts but I did not see where they define what avg pts are...would not surprise me if they changed up some of their false advertising :chuckle:There is no such thing as "average points to draw."Yes but it was the average points people who drew. Now it is the average points of the people who apply.
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Post by: furbearer365 on May 24, 2014, 07:43:26 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 24, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Post by: Falcon on May 25, 2014, 07:24:38 AM
My neighbor (and practically my grandpa due to the length Ive know him) was one of the guys with 19. He is going in this year with 20 and lets just say I am soooo rooting for him. He is in his early 70's but the guy can still pack it on. I would be jacked to watch him walk over with that huge smile just to tell me he finally drew. Hell, after 19 years, he walks over anyway with a huge smile just to say he didn't draw. After 19 years of waiting, apparently it is getting to be a joke to him.
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Sounds like he has a good attitude. I hope he gets his chance. In
All reality there just way too many people for these oil tags.
For the guys like me who put in since day 1 with 19 points. We
Have a chance but it's pretty low. If a guy is really counting
On a oil tag in this state they should be realistic and seriously
Save their money for an out state hunt while they are young
So they can do that dream hunt before they get too old for
The mtns. That is especially true with sheep and goats.
Having said that I wish you neighbor draws that moose tag this year.
Post by: furbearer365 on May 25, 2014, 11:19:03 AM