Post by: Jingles on May 16, 2014, 08:10:21 PM
Thinking a Winchester in 308.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 16, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
Post by: Jingles on May 16, 2014, 08:28:12 PM
Would like to build myself but not sure of my capabilities to produce what I want as mentioned I want a tack driver at LONG ranges
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 16, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on May 16, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
RBros is the premiere builder for custom rifles.
Post by: yorketransport on May 16, 2014, 10:33:51 PM
This is my checklist, in order:
1)Hunting or plinking
2)Muzzle brake or no muzzle brake
3)Single shot or repeater
4)Long or short action
5)Weight
6)Standard or wildcat caliber
This just gets me to a limited list of calibers. Then comes the actual rifle. You may find out that you can buy a gun that meets most of your requirements. If a guy wants to just buy a gun that's 90% ready to go out to 1000 yard, I'm a big fan of the 6.5x284 in some of the Savage factory offerings.
The 308 will leave you struggling to keep up with some of the smaller bore calibers when working off of a short action. A 260 Rem or 6.5 Creedmoor will offer better performance out at extended ranges without increasing shooting cost or recoil.
If you want something over the top, the 338 SnipeTac is a great round! :tup:
Andrew
Post by: longrangekiller on May 16, 2014, 10:43:23 PM
Post by: b23 on May 16, 2014, 11:31:51 PM
Also, since you mentioned wanting to build something on your own, you won't find an easier action to build off of, for the due it yourselfer, than a Savage. With their actions, you can order a barrel already chambered and ready to install and with a simple go, no go gauge, you can install the barrel yourself without having to use a lathe. You'll need a action wrench and barrel vise if you don't already have them.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 16, 2014, 11:57:14 PM
Anyone have any experience with them? How are the action/barrel/triggers on those things?
Post by: RadSav on May 17, 2014, 05:48:08 AM
PathfinderJR has been kicking around the idea of buying a Howa for the same purpose stated here (1,000 yard rifle). He liked the short barreled (20") .308
Anyone have any experience with them? How are the action/barrel/triggers on those things?
The Howa guns are probably capable of shooting 1,000 yards ok. Not sure the 308 from a 20" barrel is going to produce what I would call "nail driver" accuracy at that distance. I would think it should be an outstanding 600 yard gun for PFjr. Back when I shot on a rifle team it seemed the 308, even with the long barreled rifles with high BC bullets, started dancing around at the 900 yard mark. Figured that was the subsonic point or dang close to it. Of course that was back in the early eighties and maybe new powders and bullets have changed that :dunno: Even if it's not a nail driver at 1,000 it should still be a hoot load of fun!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 17, 2014, 06:59:08 AM
PathfinderJR has been kicking around the idea of buying a Howa for the same purpose stated here (1,000 yard rifle). He liked the short barreled (20") .308
Anyone have any experience with them? How are the action/barrel/triggers on those things?
The Howa guns are probably capable of shooting 1,000 yards ok. Not sure the 308 from a 20" barrel is going to produce what I would call "nail driver" accuracy at that distance. I would think it should be an outstanding 600 yard gun for PFjr. Back when I shot on a rifle team it seemed the 308, even with the long barreled rifles with high BC bullets, started dancing around at the 900 yard mark. Figured that was the subsonic point or dang close to it. Of course that was back in the early eighties and maybe new powders and bullets have changed that :dunno: Even if it's not a nail driver at 1,000 it should still be a hoot load of fun!
Thanks Rad. The Howa models that he was looking at only come in a few calibers, and .308 is the only caliber that would be legal for hunting big game. He already has a .308 (a Marlin XL7) that he can whack steel out to 600 yards (past 600 he has to guess because that's where his scope runs out of hash marks). He liked the Howa because it has a bull barrel, a Houge stock and a match trigger (the HACT). I think the idea behind the 20" barrel is that you don't run out of powder burn before your bullet exits the muzzle and the short barrel will flex less.
Post by: RadSav on May 17, 2014, 07:09:06 AM
My knowledge base is rather dated. So I would think you would want to ask Jimtheplumber or someone of that standing before taking too much of my word for it. I haven't shot much past 600 yards in nearly 30 years. I expect a lot has changed since then. :dunno:
Post by: YellowDog on May 17, 2014, 07:44:16 AM
If the Criterion barrel works out I will probably buy another in 284 Winchester for the short action and do a similar build.
I thought about having Benchmark build me a custom but I decided I could build two for the price of one and I didn't really need a full custom...I'd rather have two semi custom budget builds I worked on than one full custom that is more accurate than I can shoot anyway
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2014, 08:10:10 AM
Post by: Special T on May 17, 2014, 08:34:42 AM
If you were going to go hunting round 1k yrds why has no one mention 300win mag?
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 17, 2014, 11:16:54 AM
The .243 I built shot the 115's and 105's very well and is a consistent .5MOA rifle. It has a 1-7.75 twist 20" barrel. I'm still torn between the 105 vs 115.
I also did a bunch of load development for .300WM. We were shooting the 230gr hybrids in the 2010's and a Desert Tactical bull pup and the results were outstanding.
I would not consider the .308/7.62 for what you are doing.
Post by: Jingles on May 17, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
I love this game! Even more when it's somebody else's money. :tup:
This is my checklist, in order:
1)Hunting or plinking
2)Muzzle brake or no muzzle brake
3)Single shot or repeater
4)Long or short action
5)Weight
6)Standard or wildcat caliber
1. Let's say hunting, so as to not have atf or any government officials beating down my door
2. Flash and noise suppressor
3. Thinking multi shot probably 5 shot detachable magazine.
4. IMO this would depend on the caliber
5. Light enough to be able to carry without a crane but heavy enough to provide stability and accuracy
6. Thinking something in a 30 cal range
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2014, 02:46:16 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 17, 2014, 04:04:49 PM
The guys I do it with have the same type, off the shelf guns. 6.5x284, 6.5 Creedmoor, 300 Mag sometimes and 308's.
Post by: RadSav on May 17, 2014, 05:00:50 PM
The guys I do it with have the same type, off the shelf guns.:sry: struck me funny
Not that there's anything wrong with that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3VphK9AMk#)
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2014, 05:19:20 PM
Post by: wannabhntr on May 17, 2014, 05:38:04 PM
Mine is an off the shelf Savage Model 10 308 Bullbarrel with Accutrigger and a Surefire brake. It has a $400 Millet scope and will shoot all day with a $5500 custom. I have about $1300 in mine.Campmeat, do you know anything about the Long range hunter? I've ben considering that one.
The guys I do it with have the same type, off the shelf guns. 6.5x284, 6.5 Creedmoor, 300 Mag sometimes and 308's.
Post by: yorketransport on May 17, 2014, 05:50:53 PM
Campmeat, do you know anything about the Long range hunter? I've ben considering that one.
I've played around with 3 of the Long Range Hunters; 6.5x284, 7mm Mag, and 300 Win Mag. They were all great guns.
1. Let's say hunting, so as to not have atf or any government officials beating down my door
2. Flash and noise suppressor
3. Thinking multi shot probably 5 shot detachable magazine.
4. IMO this would depend on the caliber
5. Light enough to be able to carry without a crane but heavy enough to provide stability and accuracy
6. Thinking something in a 30 cal range
I'd go 300 WSM. It will make 1000 yard hits much easier than a 308 will. Not that the 308 can't do it, it just requires a little more work sometimes.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 17, 2014, 05:54:13 PM
Mine is an off the shelf Savage Model 10 308 Bullbarrel with Accutrigger and a Surefire brake. It has a $400 Millet scope and will shoot all day with a $5500 custom. I have about $1300 in mine.Campmeat, do you know anything about the Long range hunter? I've ben considering that one.
The guys I do it with have the same type, off the shelf guns. 6.5x284, 6.5 Creedmoor, 300 Mag sometimes and 308's.
Isn't that the one with the muzzlebrake that comes on the rifle ? If so, A couple guys have them and they shoot flawlessly. They are 6.5x284.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 17, 2014, 05:56:44 PM
The guys I do it with have the same type, off the shelf guns.:sry: struck me funny
Not that there's anything wrong with that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3VphK9AMk#)
Busted...........you guys pick up on the worst things...... :chuckle:
Post by: Bofire on May 17, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
just a thought
Carl
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 17, 2014, 07:10:23 PM
Have you looked at Olympic records? Camp Perry, (spelling) Wimbleton records? to see what those guys are shooting? The folks at those 1000 yards shoots are the best in the world.
just a thought
Carl
Perry to me is Presidents 100.
No short mags there....
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2014, 07:41:29 PM
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2014/04/best-10-shot-1000-yard-group-in-history-be-amazed/ (http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2014/04/best-10-shot-1000-yard-group-in-history-be-amazed/)
Post by: Bofire on May 17, 2014, 08:04:20 PM
"Perry to me is Presidents 100.
No short mags there...."
I am not sure what that means but those shooters and gun builders are the best there is.
Carl
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 17, 2014, 08:22:54 PM
"Perry to me is Presidents 100.
No short mags there...."
I am not sure what that means but those shooters and gun builders are the best there is.
Carl
It's a service rifle competition.
And yes, those guys are VERY good.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 18, 2014, 10:52:16 PM
"Perry to me is Presidents 100.
No short mags there...."
I am not sure what that means but those shooters and gun builders are the best there is.
Carl
It's a service rifle competition.
And yes, those guys are VERY good.
:yeah: Mostly .223s, .308, 30-06s...
Post by: RadSav on May 19, 2014, 06:27:47 AM
I prefer more horse power for hunting. Doesn't take much to punch a hole in paper or ring steel at distance.
We had a lot of impacts at that distance where the bullet was definitely tumbling when it hit paper (308 WIN). Not sure I have ever seen that with the 300 Win, 300WBY Or 7REM.
One of the more interesting events back around '83 - My girlfriend at the time's father was a retired military sniper. He had some ugly military looking rifle with a stock that looked more like an oil soaked 2X4 than a rifle stock. Some old beat up Lyman scope on it. Chambered for his favorite round...30-40 Krag. For about a half hour he consistantly rang the 1,000 steel! I swear he could shoot and have time to watch the impact through the spotter :o I felt silly for asking him just prior why he brought that big pile of junk when he could just borrow my fancy 308 :chuckle: I'm not sure how fast that bullet was going when it got there, but I bet I could almost ride a bicycle faster! At 60+ he was still one heck of a shot! Makes me wonder how good he might have been had he been willing to shoot the modern long range rifles. :dunno:
Post by: TheHunt on May 19, 2014, 07:14:04 AM
I prefer more horse power for hunting. Doesn't take much to punch a hole in paper or ring steel at distance.
We had a lot of impacts at that distance where the bullet was definitely tumbling when it hit paper (308 WIN). Not sure I have ever seen that with the 300 Win, 300WBY Or 7REM.
One of the more interesting events back around '83 - My girlfriend at the time's father was a retired military sniper. He had some ugly military looking rifle with a stock that looked more like an oil soaked 2X4 than a rifle stock. Some old beat up Lyman scope on it. Chambered for his favorite round...30-40 Krag. For about a half hour he consistantly rang the 1,000 steel! I swear he could shoot and have time to watch the impact through the spotter :o I felt silly for asking him just prior why he brought that big pile of junk when he could just borrow my fancy 308 :chuckle: I'm not sure how fast that bullet was going when it got there, but I bet I could almost ride a bicycle faster! At 60+ he was still one heck of a shot! Makes me wonder how good he might have been had he been willing to shoot the modern long range rifles. :dunno:
Rad,
I am not sure you were getting what he was implying to you. So let me spell it out...
You touch my daughter... This old nasty rifle will be used to snipe you sorry butt than I will toss this thing in the ocean as I only paid 30 dollars for it. :chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on May 19, 2014, 07:33:32 AM
Rad,
I am not sure you were getting what he was implying to you. So let me spell it out...
You touch my daughter... This old nasty rifle will be used to snipe you sorry butt than I will toss this thing in the ocean as I only paid 30 dollars for it. :chuckle:
If he only knew how naughty she really was we'd have probably both been on the hit list! :yike:
He was the best! I remember getting called to the office early on a school day. When I get there he is standing with the principal looking mighty angry. He says, "Boy! Did you forget you have a dentist appointment today?" When we get in the truck me tells me he got a tip that a big bear was working an old homestead orchard up the river. Then he laughs and says, "Did you see the look on that Dbag principals face? I think he thought I was going to kill you for missing an appointment" :chuckle:
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 19, 2014, 07:37:13 AM
I prefer more horse power for hunting. Doesn't take much to punch a hole in paper or ring steel at distance.
We had a lot of impacts at that distance where the bullet was definitely tumbling when it hit paper (308 WIN). Not sure I have ever seen that with the 300 Win, 300WBY Or 7REM.
One of the more interesting events back around '83 - My girlfriend at the time's father was a retired military sniper. He had some ugly military looking rifle with a stock that looked more like an oil soaked 2X4 than a rifle stock. Some old beat up Lyman scope on it. Chambered for his favorite round...30-40 Krag. For about a half hour he consistantly rang the 1,000 steel! I swear he could shoot and have time to watch the impact through the spotter :o I felt silly for asking him just prior why he brought that big pile of junk when he could just borrow my fancy 308 :chuckle: I'm not sure how fast that bullet was going when it got there, but I bet I could almost ride a bicycle faster! At 60+ he was still one heck of a shot! Makes me wonder how good he might have been had he been willing to shoot the modern long range rifles. :dunno:
Rad,
I am not sure you were getting what he was implying to you. So let me spell it out...
You touch my daughter... This old nasty rifle will be used to snipe you sorry butt than I will toss this thing in the ocean as I only paid 30 dollars for it. :chuckle:
:chuckle:So true...
Just shows its as much about the shooter as the gun for long distance nail driving. Ive seen low speed guys with high speed guns struggle to hit at 600yds.
Me, I would put a .308 against any round out there.Why? Because I can :chuckle: Are there rounds that are more stable and accurate at 1000yds, yep. But the key is I know my .308. Its been my long distance round of choice for over 16 years and I know everything about it. I know what its going to do and when its going to do it. You can't go wrong with most of the rounds already mentioned, you just need to pick one, embrace it, get to know it, then love it. Become one with the round. ;)
Post by: b23 on May 19, 2014, 08:20:55 AM
At a given distance the drops never change BUT wind can sometimes be constantly changing. The longer the time of flight the more affect wind has on the bullets path.
It used to be that the big .30 cals reigned supreme in 1000 yard bench rest shooting but with the newer high bc. bullets for the 6.5's and certainly far less recoil, the 6.5mm/.264 cals have taken over.
Post by: bearpaw on May 19, 2014, 08:38:14 AM
Post by: WoodlandShooter on May 19, 2014, 12:26:42 PM
For going to 1k.
1. Supersonic range should be at least 1200 yards.
2. B.C. (G1) should be over 0.625
3. Muzzle Velocity should be under 2900 (better barrel life)
4. Carries 1000 foot pounds of energy to 1000 yards (or at least close to it)
5. has at least two bullets on the market that will allow the selected cartrige to achieve items 1-4
6. has an available supply of factory loads at WallyWorld (or your local hardware store) that will at least get you to 700 yards.
Post by: coachcw on May 19, 2014, 03:43:12 PM
Post by: Badhabit on May 19, 2014, 03:47:38 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7c2_1400520617 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7c2_1400520617)
Post by: iusmc2002 on May 19, 2014, 04:15:16 PM
When I burn out the barrel on my 300WM, I'm going to replace it with a .280 Remington and see how that does at distance. The 6.5's are pretty hot right now, with their great BC. They're just hard to find, seems like. More so than 30 cal.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on May 19, 2014, 04:32:30 PM
Post by: WoodlandShooter on May 19, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
1000 yard guns don't shoot wally world ammo ! :chuckle: I'd look into the 6.5x284 in a long action so that you can push the 140's near 3000fps and not have a single shot. both the 7mm and the 300 Winnie would be fine choices as well .
I have had real good luck with Factory Winchester BST 130's in my 270 out to 700 yards on paper and rocks
After that I do have to step up to my 165 grain Matrix hand loads. Wont quite make 1000 foot pounds at 1K (it's actually around 900 yards) but it is supersonic past 1500 yards..it's a compromise. Just wish there was more than one bullet out there that can do this in .277.
I have been thinking about what it would take to get a significant jump in performance over my 270...and well, I would need to go BIG...like 338Edge +P or a 375 CheyTac.
Post by: JJB11B on May 19, 2014, 05:18:42 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 19, 2014, 05:47:10 PM
I prefer more horse power for hunting. Doesn't take much to punch a hole in paper or ring steel at distance.
We had a lot of impacts at that distance where the bullet was definitely tumbling when it hit paper
How big was the paper?
Post by: RadSav on May 19, 2014, 06:47:52 PM
I prefer more horse power for hunting. Doesn't take much to punch a hole in paper or ring steel at distance.
We had a lot of impacts at that distance where the bullet was definitely tumbling when it hit paper
How big was the paper?
I can't remember what those LR targets are. I think 72X72 with 5" X ring and 10" Ten ring if I remember correctly.
Post by: yorketransport on May 19, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft260%2Fcollegekidandy%2F0D9BBBB1-3303-4A87-ACF1-9F846A69C848-26237-000050CC491F2AB2_zps7e46943c.jpg&hash=79aa43554c4058ef5630a2edaf8e98d9d77b0b01) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/collegekidandy/media/0D9BBBB1-3303-4A87-ACF1-9F846A69C848-26237-000050CC491F2AB2_zps7e46943c.jpg.html)
Who needs a rifle to shoot at 1000 yards? Butt stocks are for sissies! :chuckle: Rifle guys have to cheat and get 10" with a longer barrel. I can do it with a 19" barrel ;). But if the shooting is much past 1200 yards, I'll keep my mouth shut and grab a rifle. :tup:
Andrew
Post by: Jingles on May 19, 2014, 08:45:10 PM
Post by: yorketransport on May 19, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
5ionch X rings are nice but lets be honest I'm after something that can chest punch a mansized target
Anything that can hold 1 MOA out to 1000 would work for you then. In that case, I say 375 H&H!. There's nothing like hitting a steel target with 300+ grains of lead!
Post by: RadSav on May 19, 2014, 09:49:36 PM
Post by: Elk whack master on May 19, 2014, 11:20:53 PM
.416 :IBCOOL: I saw the girl barret has shooting for them shooting it like nothing! Flat shooting and take out most anything you want.
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 20, 2014, 06:03:31 AM
Should probably opt for the .416 Barrett then. Tank mounted might even be best.! ;)
Ok, now I think that's a little over kill. I was thinking more along the lines of a .408 CheyTac.
Post by: RadSav on May 20, 2014, 07:46:39 AM
So far no one I know is shooting it. I thought Hornady said this was the one and only Holy Grail of 6.5 precision long range cartridges ;) Is it just the inconsistent Hornady brass that is keeping guys from shooting it? Though I thought Nosler started making Creedmoor brass. Or is it that it just doesn't give enough of anything the 6.5 Lapua, 6.5X55 and 260 Rem don't already give with easily found quality brass? Most of the guys in my old circle are shooting the 6.5X55 and won't give the Creedmoor a sideways glance.
I'm not expecting to ever shoot 1,000 yards again. But, I do plan on building a new precision hunter for the wife this year. I had been trying to decide between 260, 270 and 270WSM. The Creedmoor seemed a fun and interesting deviation from the norm, but it's lack of popularity seemed odd given all the initial hype.
Post by: WoodlandShooter on May 20, 2014, 09:19:19 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 20, 2014, 09:41:47 AM
I have been trying to find someone who has actually used the Creedmoor with any regularity at 1,000 yards.
So far no one I know is shooting it. I thought Hornady said this was the one and only Holy Grail of 6.5 precision long range cartridges ;) Is it just the inconsistent Hornady brass that is keeping guys from shooting it? Though I thought Nosler started making Creedmoor brass. Or is it that it just doesn't give enough of anything the 6.5 Lapua, 6.5X55 and 260 Rem don't already give with easily found quality brass? Most of the guys in my old circle are shooting the 6.5X55 and won't give the Creedmoor a sideways glance.
I'm not expecting to ever shoot 1,000 yards again. But, I do plan on building a new precision hunter for the wife this year. I had been trying to decide between 260, 270 and 270WSM. The Creedmoor seemed a fun and interesting deviation from the norm, but it's lack of popularity seemed odd given all the initial hype.
One of the guys I know shoots the Creedmoor and I have one myself. The only thing the long distance guys seem not to like is the pencil barrel, get's hot.
Post by: Kittman on May 20, 2014, 02:46:29 PM
http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek064.html (http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek064.html)
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 20, 2014, 03:33:06 PM
7mm WSM would be an awesome caliber for this. Do the research.
http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek064.html (http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek064.html)
:tup:
Post by: longrange7mm on May 20, 2014, 03:49:53 PM
Post by: slm9s on May 20, 2014, 04:21:56 PM
Post by: rbros on May 25, 2014, 06:28:25 PM
I have been trying to find someone who has actually used the Creedmoor with any regularity at 1,000 yards.
So far no one I know is shooting it. I thought Hornady said this was the one and only Holy Grail of 6.5 precision long range cartridges ;) Is it just the inconsistent Hornady brass that is keeping guys from shooting it? Though I thought Nosler started making Creedmoor brass. Or is it that it just doesn't give enough of anything the 6.5 Lapua, 6.5X55 and 260 Rem don't already give with easily found quality brass? Most of the guys in my old circle are shooting the 6.5X55 and won't give the Creedmoor a sideways glance.
I'm not expecting to ever shoot 1,000 yards again. But, I do plan on building a new precision hunter for the wife this year. I had been trying to decide between 260, 270 and 270WSM. The Creedmoor seemed a fun and interesting deviation from the norm, but it's lack of popularity seemed odd given all the initial hype.
I shoot mine almost daily at 800-1100. A lot of tactical competitors use it. Brass is good but it doesn't do anything the 260 or 6.x47 lapua won't do from what I have seen. It is forgiving and extremely accurate.
Post by: JJB11B on May 25, 2014, 09:28:07 PM
I have been trying to find someone who has actually used the Creedmoor with any regularity at 1,000 yards.I have an old Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55 and I never even thought that it could be a good long range caliber, My Grandfather passed his gun collection on to my Dad last year when he died. In that collection was a Winchester M70 in 6.5x55 that hasn't ever been fired, Maybe Ill trade Dad a gun for it
So far no one I know is shooting it. I thought Hornady said this was the one and only Holy Grail of 6.5 precision long range cartridges ;) Is it just the inconsistent Hornady brass that is keeping guys from shooting it? Though I thought Nosler started making Creedmoor brass. Or is it that it just doesn't give enough of anything the 6.5 Lapua, 6.5X55 and 260 Rem don't already give with easily found quality brass? Most of the guys in my old circle are shooting the 6.5X55 and won't give the Creedmoor a sideways glance.
I'm not expecting to ever shoot 1,000 yards again. But, I do plan on building a new precision hunter for the wife this year. I had been trying to decide between 260, 270 and 270WSM. The Creedmoor seemed a fun and interesting deviation from the norm, but it's lack of popularity seemed odd given all the initial hype.
Post by: RadSav on May 25, 2014, 09:29:22 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 26, 2014, 08:00:27 AM
:yeah:
.416 :IBCOOL: I saw the girl barret has shooting for them shooting it like nothing! Flat shooting and take out most anything you want.
Here is a pic of PathfinderJR shooting my buddy's .416 Barrett when he was 12. Lots of noise, but that setup eliminated most of the kick. We've shot this rifle out to 1,200 with amazing accuracy. My buddy shoots it out past 2,000.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 26, 2014, 08:03:51 AM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on May 26, 2014, 08:22:12 AM
The 3 of us from Team Rbros were all shooting 6.5's, one 260 Rem and 2- 6.5x47Laupa. The 260 is getting rebarreled to 6.5x47 Lapua.
Post by: Rich_S on May 26, 2014, 09:09:54 AM
http://s256.photobucket.com/user/Clark_Savage_Jr/media/Videos/50calBFG_zpsb8bcc35f.mp4.html (http://s256.photobucket.com/user/Clark_Savage_Jr/media/Videos/50calBFG_zpsb8bcc35f.mp4.html)
Post by: b23 on May 26, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
The last match I shot (5-17-14) @ Kettle Falls had ~78 competitors and the 6.5's were very well represented.
The 3 of us from Team Rbros were all shooting 6.5's, one 260 Rem and 2- 6.5x47Laupa. The 260 is getting rebarreled to 6.5x47 Lapua.
Jim, why are you switching from the 260 to the 6.5x47???
Post by: Mxracer532 on May 26, 2014, 02:24:23 PM
My brother bought his boy a Savage Predator Hunter in .260 and I did some load development with it and it shoots very well. (140VLD's) (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1204.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb412%2FMxracer532%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20140405_104033.jpg&hash=3cced46b85c52ead35d8c0d2f62cc8c4dd30af20) (http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/Mxracer532/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140405_104033.jpg.html)
My problem is do I add another barrel to my Gordy Gritters built Remington Switch barrel or do a whole new rifle & scope???
Post by: b23 on May 26, 2014, 03:28:01 PM
I never really need an excuse but I always like to have one handy just in case my wife ever was to start asking questions. :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 26, 2014, 04:53:04 PM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on May 26, 2014, 04:57:32 PM
I'm already running the 6.5x47L. Allan's rifle is in need of a rebarrel and the 6.5x47L gives him more latitude for what he needs his rifle to do.The last match I shot (5-17-14) @ Kettle Falls had ~78 competitors and the 6.5's were very well represented.
The 3 of us from Team Rbros were all shooting 6.5's, one 260 Rem and 2- 6.5x47Laupa. The 260 is getting rebarreled to 6.5x47 Lapua.
Jim, why are you switching from the 260 to the 6.5x47???
Post by: Mxracer532 on May 26, 2014, 05:23:42 PM
Mx, FWIW, I'd say you have an excellent reason, as if we ever really need one, for a whole new rifle and scope.
I never really need an excuse but I always like to have one handy just in case my wife ever was to start asking questions. :chuckle:
O trust me I understand ur thinking. Haha
Problem is my GG Remmy Switch barrel im really not out much at all to add a .260 barrel and its already a fully setup gun done by a 1,000 yard rifle builder. Only crappy thing is when I switch barrels my turret on my scope is set to my current barrel (.243) & load so it would have to be completely re-sighted in anytime I want to switch. Now if I got another barrel and scope & rings maybe could just do a lazer sight card to make sure its still where it needs to be every time I switch barrels. Hmmmm
Post by: yorketransport on May 26, 2014, 07:47:47 PM
I think that the subject should be for the average guy who can't afford a $5000 rifle. I'd love to have one, but, if you're just a plinker that wants to try and hit 1000 yards and have fun trying, customs guns are way out of the equation for 99% of us.
:yeah:
A guy I deliver to just picked up a Savage Long Range Hunter in 300 Win Mag about a month ago. I think that he's into it about $1500 including the scope. I don't think he'll have any problem getting the gun to make hits at 1000 yards once he gets a little trigger time in. Another guy just picked up a used Savage BVSS in 300 WSM from Cabelas for $550. I think that this one should do pretty well too. In fact, my parts drawer guns work just as well as any of the custom rigs I've played with, including my own semi customs!
I have a bet with one of the guys that I shoot with that I can put together a gun (including optics) for less than $1000 that will be able to hit our 960 yard rock. He wanted to set a factory ammo limitation on there too! So I convinced somebody to buy a Savage in 6.5x284 that was sitting on the used rack at Cabelas. He paid $570 for it. I found him a used Vortex HS scope for $400. Now we just need to get him out and shooting to see if it will hold up at 1000 yards.
Andrew
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 26, 2014, 08:41:12 PM
I think that the subject should be for the average guy who can't afford a $5000 rifle. I'd love to have one, but, if you're just a plinker that wants to try and hit 1000 yards and have fun trying, customs guns are way out of the equation for 99% of us.
:yeah:
A guy I deliver to just picked up a Savage Long Range Hunter in 300 Win Mag about a month ago. I think that he's into it about $1500 including the scope. I don't think he'll have any problem getting the gun to make hits at 1000 yards once he gets a little trigger time in. Another guy just picked up a used Savage BVSS in 300 WSM from Cabelas for $550. I think that this one should do pretty well too. In fact, my parts drawer guns work just as well as any of the custom rigs I've played with, including my own semi customs!
I have a bet with one of the guys that I shoot with that I can put together a gun (including optics) for less than $1000 that will be able to hit our 960 yard rock. He wanted to set a factory ammo limitation on there too! So I convinced somebody to buy a Savage in 6.5x284 that was sitting on the used rack at Cabelas. He paid $570 for it. I found him a used Vortex HS scope for $400. Now we just need to get him out and shooting to see if it will hold up at 1000 yards.
Andrew
Here's my 300 RUM with scope at nearly $1500 complete.
Post by: lablover on June 04, 2014, 06:16:21 PM
In the end, a lot of it comes down to the shooter. I successfully hit at 1025 yards, but couldn't at 1200 because my turret can't go out that far, even with a 20MOA rail. I normally shoot a .270 WSM, but am currently in the process of doing work to it, and making some new loads (see other post I started.) Ultimately, it comes down to what a person is going to be using the rifle for; target or hunting.
Post by: Special T on June 04, 2014, 11:25:50 PM
I think you could likely put a gun together that can knock down some plates for under a couple of grand... BUT i would guess that to see a target at unknown distance and hit it first shot its likly gona cost some bucks to make that happen. :twocents:
Post by: WoodlandShooter on June 05, 2014, 08:28:43 AM
Here is a range card I worked up for a buddies pet 308 load. as you can see, a 20 yard error in range estimation can affect bullet drop by ~20 inches on the big end
It stops at 1100 FPS, so you can see why a 308 is so limited.
Post by: b23 on June 05, 2014, 10:18:41 AM
If you're really on a budget and want to keep cost/s down a 260 Rem. would be at the top of my list.
Post by: coachcw on June 06, 2014, 06:37:46 AM