Post by: mxryder909 on May 26, 2014, 11:02:52 AM
So i guess ill be returned the New Rage 3-Blade 100 Grain Mechanical Broadheads
Im curious to see what other hunters will be using this year... imput is welcomed and requested
Cheers
-Sultan Cougar hunter
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on May 26, 2014, 11:44:49 AM
Post by: scottfrick on May 26, 2014, 11:47:28 AM
Post by: Johnb317 on May 26, 2014, 11:59:53 AM
Waiting for the Savoras to come out.
Post by: northwesthunter84 on May 26, 2014, 12:20:44 PM
That law has always been the same. There was no rule change regarding what broadheads we can use. Also be careful there are two types of Exodus broadheads. One is legal the other doesn't meet the rule requirements.
"It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with a broadhead blade unless the broadhead is unbarbed and completely closed at the back end of the blade or
blades by a smooth, unbroken surface starting at maximum blade width and forming a smooth line toward the feather end of the shaft and such line does not
angle toward the point."
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 26, 2014, 01:15:45 PM
Post by: grundy53 on May 26, 2014, 01:20:26 PM
sent from my typewriter
Post by: jason stevens on May 26, 2014, 01:42:52 PM
Post by: Mxracer532 on May 26, 2014, 01:51:08 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on May 26, 2014, 02:23:17 PM
[Smg id=12117]
Post by: syoungs on May 26, 2014, 02:35:30 PM
I'd say both those heads are questionable. I'm not sure either would be legal.
Why do you say that?
Post by: BobW on May 26, 2014, 03:13:01 PM
Post by: winshooter88 on May 26, 2014, 03:23:19 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on May 26, 2014, 03:39:25 PM
Post by: syoungs on May 26, 2014, 03:57:24 PM
Post by: RadSav on May 26, 2014, 06:24:54 PM
Waiting for the Savoras to come out.
So am I :chuckle:
Waiting and waiting and waiting...
Sounds like a bird around here...two weeks, two weeks, two weeks :bash:
One of these days! On the bright side I go look at a piece of property this week. Might be cutting out the middle men by this time next year. Then no more waiting! :IBCOOL:
Post by: Nice Racks on May 26, 2014, 06:29:38 PM
Post by: 6haase6 on May 26, 2014, 07:11:29 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on May 26, 2014, 07:16:28 PM
Post by: Russ McDonald on May 26, 2014, 07:29:36 PM
Muzzy mx3 100gr:yeah: in the 4 blade.
Going to switch to 125gr. though and waiting for the Savoras too.
Post by: sakoshooter on May 26, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Shuttle t for me.
[Smg id=12117]
What???? Darn Button, I thought you were a Magnus Stinger guy for sure.
Post by: sakoshooter on May 26, 2014, 08:15:28 PM
Waiting for the Savoras to come out.
So am I :chuckle:
Waiting and waiting and waiting...
Sounds like a bird around here...two weeks, two weeks, two weeks :bash:
One of these days! On the bright side I go look at a piece of property this week. Might be cutting out the middle men by this time next year. Then no more waiting! :IBCOOL:
I"m waiting for my new Savora's....................................... Delmastro Supremo Killem Deader Than A Post Heads. Yup, that's what I'm waitin for...........................
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 26, 2014, 08:20:12 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on May 26, 2014, 09:47:09 PM
I was for sure. They're still great heads and I still have a bunch.Shuttle t for me.
[Smg id=12117]
What???? Darn Button, I thought you were a Magnus Stinger guy for sure.
Post by: KimWar1911 on May 26, 2014, 10:41:36 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on May 26, 2014, 10:55:06 PM
Waiting for the Savoras to come out.
So am I :chuckle:
Waiting and waiting and waiting...
Sounds like a bird around here...two weeks, two weeks, two weeks :bash:
One of these days! On the bright side I go look at a piece of property this week. Might be cutting out the middle men by this time next year. Then no more waiting! :IBCOOL:
You need any help with any of that, you let me know. :chuckle:
Until the new ones come out, I'll still be shooting my Savora's, circa 1983.
Post by: RadSav on May 26, 2014, 11:31:09 PM
You need any help with any of that, you let me know. :chuckle:
Until the new ones come out, I'll still be shooting my Savora's, circa 1983.
They are not that old! :chuckle:
I think Mark and I designed that one in '92 with first production delivery '94 if I'm not mistaken. Still one heck of a broadhead! Probably the best combination of flight, cut and terminal performance still today. Since then the Squaw, Crazy Larry and myself have a long list of critters taken with it using bows from the Lorraine's 214fps to some I tested recently with hunting arrow speeds exceeding 320. It's a good one and will return to the lineup once I can make them at a price point everyone can afford.
I'll be up looking at that property by your place this week. Real Estate agent thinks I can get that piece and the one next to it for less than the asking price of just the one. Just need to find a screw machine operator and/or programmer in Shelton. That might be harder than finding the right property!
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 27, 2014, 06:51:07 AM
I can run some machines rad. Program skills aren't up to par but I can certainly make enough hand written edits to make a part (Right or wrong).You need any help with any of that, you let me know. :chuckle:
Until the new ones come out, I'll still be shooting my Savora's, circa 1983.
They are not that old! :chuckle:
I think Mark and I designed that one in '92 with first production delivery '94 if I'm not mistaken. Still one heck of a broadhead! Probably the best combination of flight, cut and terminal performance still today. Since then the Squaw, Crazy Larry and myself have a long list of critters taken with it using bows from the Lorraine's 214fps to some I tested recently with hunting arrow speeds exceeding 320. It's a good one and will return to the lineup once I can make them at a price point everyone can afford.
I'll be up looking at that property by your place this week. Real Estate agent thinks I can get that piece and the one next to it for less than the asking price of just the one. Just need to find a screw machine operator and/or programmer in Shelton. That might be harder than finding the right property!
Post by: RadSav on May 27, 2014, 07:21:08 AM
I can run some machines rad. Program skills aren't up to par but I can certainly make enough hand written edits to make a part (Right or wrong).
I imagine the commute from your place to Shelton might be a little far :o
The helical interpolation is what gets most basic cnc guys. It's also the reason our peep sights must be run of such expensive machines.
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 27, 2014, 07:41:37 AM
Post by: RadSav on May 27, 2014, 07:54:02 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on May 27, 2014, 08:04:21 AM
You need any help with any of that, you let me know. :chuckle:
Until the new ones come out, I'll still be shooting my Savora's, circa 1983.
They are not that old! :chuckle:
I think Mark and I designed that one in '92 with first production delivery '94 if I'm not mistaken. Still one heck of a broadhead! Probably the best combination of flight, cut and terminal performance still today. Since then the Squaw, Crazy Larry and myself have a long list of critters taken with it using bows from the Lorraine's 214fps to some I tested recently with hunting arrow speeds exceeding 320. It's a good one and will return to the lineup once I can make them at a price point everyone can afford.
I'll be up looking at that property by your place this week. Real Estate agent thinks I can get that piece and the one next to it for less than the asking price of just the one. Just need to find a screw machine operator and/or programmer in Shelton. That might be harder than finding the right property!
1983, 1993, whatever. They are still the best broadheads I've ever used! The only one of the 5 I tried that would fly on my arrows. Thank you again.
Post by: scottcrb on May 27, 2014, 09:11:23 AM
Post by: dinker on May 27, 2014, 09:50:11 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 27, 2014, 12:04:35 PM
not only do i need to replace my hairy hole :chuckle: ... i need to get new broadheadsyou're a sick little kid dink.
Post by: RadSav on May 27, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
not only do i need to replace my hairy hole :chuckle: ... i need to get new broadheadsyou're a sick little kid dink.
What do you expect from someone who doesn't know what a dink or a dinker is? :o
Unless he really is a racist, plays tennis, is married with no kids or works with leather ;) And if he replaces his hairy hole with a rip cord I think his friends and family might need to rethink their relationship :chuckle:
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 27, 2014, 12:45:02 PM
Post by: Russ McDonald on May 27, 2014, 01:24:31 PM
I told him I could put on a old golden key rest I have laying around the house but he wants a drop away. He set on buying a QAD so he can be like me.Oh D-Rock425 has a mini me now.
Post by: vandeman17 on May 27, 2014, 01:26:21 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 27, 2014, 01:29:09 PM
mini there ain't nothing about Dinkers appearance that's mini.I told him I could put on a old golden key rest I have laying around the house but he wants a drop away. He set on buying a QAD so he can be like me.Oh D-Rock425 has a mini me now.
Post by: Russ McDonald on May 27, 2014, 01:38:55 PM
Well anything is bigger then you anyhow :chuckle:mini there ain't nothing about Dinkers appearance that's mini.I told him I could put on a old golden key rest I have laying around the house but he wants a drop away. He set on buying a QAD so he can be like me.Oh D-Rock425 has a mini me now.
Post by: Rainier10 on May 27, 2014, 05:04:25 PM
Post by: dscubame on May 27, 2014, 06:15:10 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 27, 2014, 08:12:39 PM
Post by: h20hunter on May 27, 2014, 08:17:19 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 27, 2014, 08:27:05 PM
Didn't Rad say he is going to hunt strictly with.......The Atom.I'm not sure he's a fan.
Post by: RadSav on May 27, 2014, 08:27:24 PM
Radsav do you think either of the exodus heads pictured earlier in this tread are legal for Washington?
Not by definition of the rules. However, I have come to understand that WDFW has mentioned to more than one hunter that the first one pictured would be acceptable. Though, I would want that in writing before I got stopped by a LEO!
Post by: RadSav on May 27, 2014, 08:29:50 PM
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Post by: Johnb317 on May 28, 2014, 12:55:27 PM
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Hope the picture comes through.
Post by: returnofsid on May 28, 2014, 02:28:53 PM
This is the results after cutting through a rib. Complete pass through with an exit wound that left a 12" diameter bloody, mushy mess.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5511/11412355416_b1dc787a3f_b.jpg)
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Post by: mxryder909 on June 01, 2014, 06:58:28 AM
So many responses and so many options on the market, glad a number of people responded.
The archery store out their in Belfair, swore everyone in Alaska uses these 4blade fixed 1" broadheads (sorry cant recall what they were)
Appreciate the responses
Post by: RadSav on June 01, 2014, 07:32:19 AM
The archery store out their in Belfair, swore everyone in Alaska uses these 4blade fixed 1" broadheads (sorry cant recall what they were)
Probably Slick Trick if it's 1" and four bladed. Good head!
We were trying to see if they would sell after the founder passed away. All my leads said the company was not for sale. Then found out last week it was purchased by the parent company to Elite, Winners Choice, Scott... Seems we are always a day late and a dollar short :bash: Hopefully they will continue the good work Slick Trick was doing.
Post by: MADMAX on June 01, 2014, 07:44:44 AM
30 yd double lung
complete pass through broke a rib and stuck in tree
same arrow and BH , first one I am using this year and hopefully one shot one kill and back in quiver
Post by: MLBowhunting on June 01, 2014, 09:14:51 AM
Post by: mxryder909 on June 01, 2014, 09:22:58 AM
Post by: RadSav on June 01, 2014, 09:56:00 AM
So being a new bow hunter, a tree stand a good idea for elk/deer???
Sometimes, Yes! Sometimes, No! Depends on area, animal behavior, pressure and time of year.
I hate tree stands so 95% of the time I say, No. I'm sure many others on here will say, Yes!
Post by: coachcw on June 01, 2014, 10:03:50 AM
Post by: Johnb317 on June 01, 2014, 10:32:56 AM
Like my slick tricks, when did ownership change hands? Got great service from them a couple years ago. On the other end of the arrow what color fletching? White is the easiest to see, but so will the elk. Red?
Post by: lokidog on June 01, 2014, 10:38:25 AM
Have a friend who is trying to talk me into a tree stand. Not sure I like the idea.
Like my slick tricks, when did ownership change hands? Got great service from them a couple years ago. On the other end of the arrow what color fletching? White is the easiest to see, but so will the elk. Red?
Sounds like a new thread to me? :chuckle:
I've been using Muzzy Mx-3s 100gr, but would like to take a look at the new Savoras.
Post by: RadSav on June 01, 2014, 11:03:09 AM
Like my slick tricks, when did ownership change hands? Got great service from them a couple years ago. On the other end of the arrow what color fletching? White is the easiest to see, but so will the elk. Red?
Not sure what date the ink was laid. But it was recent. Here is a link http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/outdoor-group-acquires-slick-trick-broadheads/ (http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/outdoor-group-acquires-slick-trick-broadheads/)
Fire Orange and Red are both very good colors for seeing and remaining stealthy. I agree with you on the white! Pink and purple are also good choices.
Post by: PA BEN on June 01, 2014, 11:35:22 AM
I am still an old school NAP 100 grain Thunderhead believer. If it aint broke don't fix it. When I switched to 2" blazer vanes I was told a long broadhead wouldn't work with them and I would have to go to a G5 or a slick trick. Something about a long broadhead and short vane I would have planing problems. I stuck with the Thunderheads and they fly just fine for me.:yeah: Old school for me too. BTW, they are cheap to buy, don't see why I need to spend high dollars for something new.
Post by: Instinct on June 02, 2014, 04:35:24 AM
Post by: JJD on June 02, 2014, 06:00:15 AM
Slick trick flies well, but I have not personally taken game with them.
Waiting to hear/see reviews on the new Savoras as well
Post by: DoubleJ on June 02, 2014, 11:56:26 AM
Like the way the Striker 100 flies and kills.
Slick trick flies well, but I have not personally taken game with them.
Waiting to hear/see reviews on the new Savoras as well
If they're like the old Savoras, they'll be worth every penny. I've got the sold Savoras and you could shave a fly with those blades. HOLY CRAP THEY'RE SHARP!!!
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 02, 2014, 12:39:53 PM
So being a new bow hunter, a tree stand a good idea for elk/deer???
Its a mind f$%k for sure but it can pay off if you do it right and have the paitence for it. Its the only way I hunt elk in Sept.
Post by: h20hunter on June 02, 2014, 12:41:08 PM
g5 striker 100gr
For me, I agree. They fly good, kill good, and look good.
Post by: D-Rock425 on June 02, 2014, 01:01:10 PM
it can be effective But there's something about sneaking in on a group or calling them to you on the ground adds a little more excitement.So being a new bow hunter, a tree stand a good idea for elk/deer???
Its a mind f$%k for sure but it can pay off if you do it right and have the paitence for it. Its the only way I hunt elk in Sept.
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 02, 2014, 02:20:32 PM
Agreed.it can be effective But there's something about sneaking in on a group or calling them to you on the ground adds a little more excitement.So being a new bow hunter, a tree stand a good idea for elk/deer???
Its a mind f$%k for sure but it can pay off if you do it right and have the paitence for it. Its the only way I hunt elk in Sept.
Post by: RadSav on June 03, 2014, 05:31:03 PM
g5 striker 100gr
For me, I agree. They fly good, kill good, and look good.
Their slot tolerances in the ferrule could be tighter, but if I were to shoot a commercially available head...G5 Stryker would probably be at the top of my list. First class blade, first class product, first class company! Would be a tough decision between it and WASP. However, I would support the good guys every time. So that puts G5 at the top!
Post by: D-Rock425 on June 03, 2014, 05:56:59 PM
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Post by: Nice Racks on June 03, 2014, 07:56:16 PM
g5 striker 100gr
For me, I agree. They fly good, kill good, and look good.
Their slot tolerances in the ferrule could be tighter, but if I were to shoot a commercially available head...G5 Stryker would probably be at the top of my list. First class blade, first class product, first class company! Would be a tough decision between it and WASP. However, I would support the good guys every time. So that puts G5 at the top!
Just curious why the Wasp people are the bad guys? I shoot the Boss and love it; can you fill me in on it?
Post by: RadSav on June 03, 2014, 08:03:48 PM
Post by: Nice Racks on June 03, 2014, 08:11:17 PM
Not so much that WASP guys are bad, though I have a few personal experiences, it's more a case of the Grace family (G5) just being outstanding people.
Oh ok. It does suk they doubled the price on their products though.
Post by: dscubame on June 04, 2014, 10:29:14 AM
So being a new bow hunter, a tree stand a good idea for elk/deer???
Hard to cover ground hunting elk in a tree stand. Deer works well and how well depends on how good your set up location is.
Post by: D-Rock425 on June 04, 2014, 10:35:45 AM
treestands can be very productive for elk. All about location.So being a new bow hunter, a tree stand a good idea for elk/deer???
Hard to cover ground hunting elk in a tree stand. Deer works well and how well depends on how good your set up location is.
Post by: RadSav on June 04, 2014, 11:22:05 AM
Not so much that WASP guys are bad, though I have a few personal experiences, it's more a case of the Grace family (G5) just being outstanding people.
Oh ok. It does suk they doubled the price on their products though.
It does suk! However, after tooling up for a similar project I've found modern machining techniques are far more expensive than I had ever imagined. The new guys increased quality, but at a cost to the consumer. At least they are delivering...more than I can say for myself at this time >:(
Post by: huntnphool on June 04, 2014, 11:28:14 AM
Post by: Blade on June 04, 2014, 12:05:33 PM
And yes tree stands are effective but it is all about location.