Post by: HillSlick on June 16, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
What kind of Quiver do you guys like using for stalking through the brush? I like back quivers but I'm open to other things, I'm just tryin to see what seems to be preffered, I asked on another forum and I'm curious what my fellow Washingtonians like to use.
Please and thank you!
Also I have run Across a COMPLETE set of Micro-Flite 8's, 6 fitted with Bear RazorHead Broad heads and 6 field tips, I don't know anything about them except they are laser accurate out of my bow, I love em, but they are old, I'm worried about breaking them and then not having any, what would my chances be of finding an identical set?
"WAIT! Looks dangerous...you first" - Young Dr Frankenstein
Post by: returnofsid on June 16, 2014, 01:35:55 PM
Post by: HillSlick on June 16, 2014, 01:37:04 PM
"WAIT! Looks dangerous...you first" - Young Dr Frankenstein
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 16, 2014, 01:52:18 PM
Post by: Becky on June 16, 2014, 05:20:16 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 16, 2014, 05:24:33 PM
I've got a tight spot too, they're nice.
How can I not comment???? :yike:
Post by: Jellymon on June 16, 2014, 05:27:42 PM
Post by: Becky on June 16, 2014, 05:28:18 PM
I've got a tight spot too, they're nice.
How can I not comment???? :yike:
:DOH:
*going back to edit* hahahah.
Post by: Jellymon on June 16, 2014, 05:29:41 PM
I've got a tight spot too, they're nice.
How can I not comment???? :yike:
:DOH:
*going back to edit* hahahah.
:chuckle:
Post by: returnofsid on June 16, 2014, 05:30:49 PM
I've got a tight spot too, they're nice.
How can I not comment???? :yike:
Oh My!!!
Post by: D-Rock425 on June 16, 2014, 05:39:28 PM
Post by: RadSav on June 16, 2014, 05:42:03 PM
I really like the new bows Bear is putting out. So I am in the process of trying to design a new side quiver that I like. If I can not come up with a solution the new Bear bow will have to go. Even though I absolutely love the way the Ugly Bear shoots!
I spent an entire year trying my best to somehow manage to like the Tight Spot. And while the arrow gripper is very nice the quiver as a whole is just another one piece pile of turds. Just like all the other one piece garbage on the market, just with a better mount and grippers. I'd rather make the switch to rifle hunting than spend another year dragging around an anchor attached to my bow. Luckily for me I have a pile of old Hoyt quivers and plenty of older bows for them to go on.
Who knows, maybe if the industry ignores the NW bowhunter even more I'll start my own bow company even without being able to buy Martin :dunno: Maybe that is what it is going to take to get someone other than Hoyt to realize we don't all hunt from a dang tree or a hot box!
Post by: returnofsid on June 16, 2014, 05:49:02 PM
I despise the Tight Spot and any other one piece quiver on the market! I'd rather have a side quiver than a one piece quiver! The older Hoyt two piece and Bear's Older two piece are what I usually use. Unfortunately few companies are making decent two piece quivers anymore and bow manufacturers are making it more difficult to attach them all the time. That is one of the reasons I have started using my Bowtech in the field more and more and using the Bear bows less and less. If the trend continues I may have to go back to using nothing but older bows or, Heaven forbid, go back to using a Hoyt ;)
I really like the new bows Bear is putting out. So I am in the process of trying to design a new side quiver that I like. If I can not come up with a solution the new Bear bow will have to go. Even though I absolutely love the way the Ugly Bear shoots!
I spent an entire year trying my best to somehow manage to like the Tight Spot. And while the arrow gripper is very nice the quiver as a whole is just another one piece pile of turds. Just like all the other one piece garbage on the market, just with a better mount and grippers. I'd rather make the switch to rifle hunting than spend another year dragging around an anchor attached to my bow. Luckily for me I have a pile of old Hoyt quivers and plenty of older bows for them to go on.
Who knows, maybe if the industry ignores the NW bowhunter even more I'll start my own bow company even without being able to buy Martin :dunno: Maybe that is what it is going to take to get someone other than Hoyt to realize we don't all hunt from a dang tree or a hot box!
Can you please explain what it is about 1 piece quivers you dislike? I did also like the Hoyt 2 piece that was on my Vectrix.
Post by: Becky on June 16, 2014, 05:50:30 PM
I despise the Tight Spot and any other one piece quiver on the market! I'd rather have a side quiver than a one piece quiver! The older Hoyt two piece and Bear's Older two piece are what I usually use. Unfortunately few companies are making decent two piece quivers anymore and bow manufacturers are making it more difficult to attach them all the time. That is one of the reasons I have started using my Bowtech in the field more and more and using the Bear bows less and less. If the trend continues I may have to go back to using nothing but older bows or, Heaven forbid, go back to using a Hoyt ;)
I really like the new bows Bear is putting out. So I am in the process of trying to design a new side quiver that I like. If I can not come up with a solution the new Bear bow will have to go. Even though I absolutely love the way the Ugly Bear shoots!
I spent an entire year trying my best to somehow manage to like the Tight Spot. And while the arrow gripper is very nice the quiver as a whole is just another one piece pile of turds. Just like all the other one piece garbage on the market, just with a better mount and grippers. I'd rather make the switch to rifle hunting than spend another year dragging around an anchor attached to my bow. Luckily for me I have a pile of old Hoyt quivers and plenty of older bows for them to go on.
Who knows, maybe if the industry ignores the NW bowhunter even more I'll start my own bow company even without being able to buy Martin :dunno: Maybe that is what it is going to take to get someone other than Hoyt to realize we don't all hunt from a dang tree or a hot box!
What's the advantage (or difference rather), of a one piece vs a two piece quiver?
*oh* and what about the Bear bows that you're having issues with? Putting a one piece on it, or the two piece quivers? or...
Post by: RadSav on June 16, 2014, 06:54:04 PM
Once attached to my bow I have no need to ever take the quiver off the bow. And if I am going to hunt out of a blind or tree stand and don't want a quiver on the bow what is the difference between a quick detach quiver and a side quiver? It really is no more inconvenient to take off a side quiver than it is to take off a bow quiver. And if I need to get out of the stand for a second coup de grāce shot my bow will shoot exactly the same with a side quiver attached to my hip.
The problem with the new Bear bows and many others these days is when and if they do have a two piece mount the attachments are too far apart. On my Bear Anarchy the riser was so long and the mounts were so far apart I couldn't even get an arrow into a two piece quiver. The distance between the hood and grippers can not be too far apart or they vibrate as bad as a one piece. Get the distance between the hood and the grippers too close together and you experience the same thing. Except in that situation the fletching rattles like a flag attached to a car antenna!
Tight spot has, for most arrow lengths, nearly the right amount of distance between the hood and the grippers. And the adjustable grippers are very well thought out. But it is nearly three times the weight of a good two piece Hoyt quiver. And will never have the rigidity of the two piece Hoyt, Mathews or Bear. It is one of the few that will bring the arrows as close to the bow as a one piece. But if you want it to act and behave like a two piece why not just save the ounces and the $50.00 and get a two piece to begin with?
I believe that most folks that are in love with the Tight Spot have never used a quality two piece quiver. In this case ignorance absolutely is bliss! They like it because it is the closest thing to a two piece you can find in a one piece. But it is still miles away from giving the benefits of a quality two piece.
Post by: HillSlick on June 17, 2014, 01:51:15 AM
"WAIT! Looks dangerous...you first" - Young Dr Frankenstein
Post by: sakoshooter on June 17, 2014, 02:09:50 AM
Post by: RadSav on June 17, 2014, 02:42:46 AM
RadSav covered my reasons for not liking 1 piece quivers. That being said, I do like my Mathews 2 piece quiver. Very close to the bow, perfect distance apart and zero vibration with quiver or arrows. I never take mine off and I always shoot with it full.
The older Mathews two piece was quite the spectacular product. Amazing grippers and about as rigid as one could imagine! Only problem was it was almost impossible to modify to other bow brands and it was a little heavy! I shot one modified (after some creative machining) for a Sims DZ-32 for a number of years. Loved It!!
I know a few folks that started shooting Mathews just so they could have that quiver! Too bad back then the Mathews bows were so prone to breakage. And then they abandon the two piece completely for a while. Now that Mathews has a great bow with great limbs and a good grip I hope they commit to return to an equally great quiver option. Though I know the older grippers will be a thing of the past as there were some liability issues. It was easily fixable, but cost too much and added even more weight. Their new grippers are still very nice just disappointing compared to the older ones.
Post by: sakoshooter on June 17, 2014, 10:32:24 PM
Post by: RadSav on June 17, 2014, 11:04:34 PM
Bryan, I take my rubber piece off once in a while and drop it in a pot of boiling water which returns it to a more "grippy/sticky" form. Also erases the memory from shaft diameter.
The ones I know will never be able to be replaced get taken off my bow at the end of each season and placed in a zippered amber bag. Ozone and UV light are two of the most destructive environment agents to any rubber or elastomer compound. I have never boiled them, but I do clean them well with simple green, rinse three times and once completely dry seal them up for later use. I do not use the Mathews quiver very often anymore, but mine from some of the earlier runs look like they were taken off the dealers shelf yesterday. I'm not exactly sure what material Mathews used in those early models, but they are super good!
After posting on this thread last night I spent about five hours in CAD playing with different options to attach my older Mathews quivers to the new Ugly Bear. Would sure be much easier if they used uniform GeoGrid patterns ;) I decided in the end the best option from a weight and rigidity factor was to take the old Mathews grippers and the new Mathews hood (which I am equally fond of) and place them on a completely new quiver base. I need about another five hours in CAD to get the drawing spot on and trouble shoot it a bit. Now I just need to find a hole in M&L's production schedule to have one run out on the Haas. Looks like I should have a Kick Arse hybrid quiver for that bow come hunting season. Should only cost about $600! Should I make two? :chuckle:
I've actually had this idea in my head for about ten years. Just never put it down on paper. Sort of feels good to set it free and create a little more room for the hamsters to run around a bit.
Post by: HillSlick on June 18, 2014, 12:29:08 AM
Bryan, I take my rubber piece off once in a while and drop it in a pot of boiling water which returns it to a more "grippy/sticky" form. Also erases the memory from shaft diameter.
The ones I know will never be able to be replaced get taken off my bow at the end of each season and placed in a zippered amber bag. Ozone and UV light are two of the most destructive environment agents to any rubber or elastomer compound. I have never boiled them, but I do clean them well with simple green, rinse three times and once completely dry seal them up for later use. I do not use the Mathews quiver very often anymore, but mine from some of the earlier runs look like they were taken off the dealers shelf yesterday. I'm not exactly sure what material Mathews used in those early models, but they are super good!
After posting on this thread last night I spent about five hours in CAD playing with different options to attach my older Mathews quivers to the new Ugly Bear. Would sure be much easier if they used uniform GeoGrid patterns ;) I decided in the end the best option from a weight and rigidity factor was to take the old Mathews grippers and the new Mathews hood (which I am equally fond of) and place them on a completely new quiver base. I need about another five hours in CAD to get the drawing spot on and trouble shoot it a bit. Now I just need to find a hole in M&L's production schedule to have one run out on the Haas. Looks like I should have a Kick Arse hybrid quiver for that bow come hunting season. Should only cost about $600! Should I make two? :chuckle:
I've actually had this idea in my head for about ten years. Just never put it down on paper. Sort of feels good to set it free and create a little more room for the hamsters to run around a bit.
Haha the Hamster community thanks you
"WAIT! Looks dangerous...you first" - Young Dr Frankenstein
Post by: sakoshooter on June 19, 2014, 07:51:17 PM
Bryan, I take my rubber piece off once in a while and drop it in a pot of boiling water which returns it to a more "grippy/sticky" form. Also erases the memory from shaft diameter.
The ones I know will never be able to be replaced get taken off my bow at the end of each season and placed in a zippered amber bag. Ozone and UV light are two of the most destructive environment agents to any rubber or elastomer compound. I have never boiled them, but I do clean them well with simple green, rinse three times and once completely dry seal them up for later use. I do not use the Mathews quiver very often anymore, but mine from some of the earlier runs look like they were taken off the dealers shelf yesterday. I'm not exactly sure what material Mathews used in those early models, but they are super good!
After posting on this thread last night I spent about five hours in CAD playing with different options to attach my older Mathews quivers to the new Ugly Bear. Would sure be much easier if they used uniform GeoGrid patterns ;) I decided in the end the best option from a weight and rigidity factor was to take the old Mathews grippers and the new Mathews hood (which I am equally fond of) and place them on a completely new quiver base. I need about another five hours in CAD to get the drawing spot on and trouble shoot it a bit. Now I just need to find a hole in M&L's production schedule to have one run out on the Haas. Looks like I should have a Kick Arse hybrid quiver for that bow come hunting season. Should only cost about $600! Should I make two? :chuckle:
I've actually had this idea in my head for about ten years. Just never put it down on paper. Sort of feels good to set it free and create a little more room for the hamsters to run around a bit.
At that price Rad, I'm make a few of em. They'd sell like hot cakes , LOL.
The boiling water idea came from Mathews actually a couple years ago when I ordered a replacement. Works great. Doesn't hurt it a bit and looks/holds like brand new after about 1 minute in the water. Probablyb work just fine with other quiver rubbers.
Post by: Netminder01 on July 18, 2014, 03:49:58 PM
Good thread - thanks!
Post by: BetoBow on July 18, 2014, 04:24:42 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on July 18, 2014, 04:53:15 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 19, 2014, 01:49:49 AM
What kind of arrow rest would you guys recommend?
Depends on bow, fletching and shooting style. A lot of good rests on the market these days!
My favorites are;
RipCord (best customer service in the business!)
AAE DOA
Octane Hostage Pro (Pro Only not the all plastic pile)
and the original full capture...Hairy Hole!
All four are dependable, durable and easy to set up.
Post by: AudiDat on August 04, 2014, 12:26:30 PM
http://mathewsinc.com/product/arrowweb-ct-series-quiver/ (http://mathewsinc.com/product/arrowweb-ct-series-quiver/)
I don't know if you've looked at these or not, but the mount is rock solid, and is cut out of a single piece of billet aluminum.
I think it's pretty brand specific though, so if you're not shooting a Mathews it may or may not work for you.
Post by: returnofsid on August 04, 2014, 01:04:57 PM
I have seen one of my partners Tight Spot fall off his bow on a hike down some thick nasty. Also had a buddy lose one coming out at midnight down a steep drainage. Two piece all the way for me.
Even in the thick and nasty, there's no way a correctly installed and adjusted Tight Spot quiver would fall off. Mine is adjusted very tight, almost to the point that I cannot remove it by hand. I can see how someone would have issues if they didn't tighten one enough.
Post by: bowjunkie on August 12, 2014, 11:38:52 AM
x2 for ripcord
Post by: Peskadot on August 13, 2014, 03:02:14 PM
Post by: sakoshooter on August 13, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 14, 2014, 06:09:03 AM
For a one piece quiver, I don't think you can beat a Tight Spot. And I like the distance from the hood to the rubber holder which is adjustable for shaft diameter - a real plus with today's small diameter arrows.
Sorry to hear about the small diameter, Sako. :chuckle: