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Title: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Dave Workman on June 20, 2014, 05:56:05 PM
Okay, let's do a little survey.

Who hunts with a 12?

Who hunts with a 20?

Ditto 16, 28 and .410?

What size of shot do you suggest for grouse and why?

For openers...I use 12, 20 and/or .410 and I prefer No. 6 regardless. 

Yee hawwwwwwwww.....Grouse season is just a little more than 2 months away. 


Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Jason on June 20, 2014, 06:01:09 PM
10/22 22lr :tup:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: bobcat on June 20, 2014, 06:01:11 PM
I almost always will choose my Remington 1100 LT 20 gauge, modified choke, number 6 shot. I've killed a lot if blue grouse with that gun. A few ruffed grouse too, I'm not picky, but very much prefer hunting blue grouse. I've had that gun since I was 11.

Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: h20hunter on June 20, 2014, 06:02:58 PM
This year will be bow 1st them 12g.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: netcoyote on June 20, 2014, 06:04:33 PM
20 ga Franchi O/U loaded with #6 shot. Just need a little more uuumph for some of those big blues.

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Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: RadSav on June 20, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
Most of the grouse I shoot are taken with dad's old Stevens .410 and 7.5 shot.

Wife uses Franchi 20 gauge with what ever rounds and shot size we happen to be sitting heavy on.  Usually #7.5
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Dave Workman on June 20, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
I almost always will choose my Remington 1100 LT 20 gauge, modified choke, number 6 shot. I've killed a lot if blue grouse with that gun. A few ruffed grouse too, I'm not picky, but very much prefer hunting blue grouse. I've had that gun since I was 11.

That is a classic shotgun, and the mod choke is certainly best for blues. I like a double gun, having three S/S models in 12, 20 and 410, but last year I acquired an O/U Franchi 20-gauge that is just murder on grouse. Run Mod and I/C chokes.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Dave Workman on June 20, 2014, 06:22:07 PM
10/22 22lr :tup:



HA.

Yer killin' me.

Well done!
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Bean Counter on June 20, 2014, 06:23:45 PM
Dave,
May I suggest adding a poll?  8)
Bc
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Dave Workman on June 20, 2014, 06:33:31 PM
Dave,
May I suggest adding a poll?  8)
Bc

done...now it's your turn.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Smossy on June 20, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
100 grain judo tips :chuckle:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: whackmaster on June 20, 2014, 07:14:04 PM
grandpa's double barrel 20 gauge #8   :drool:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: SCRUBS on June 20, 2014, 07:14:53 PM
100 grain judo tips :chuckle:

I`m with you Smossy :tup:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Wazukie on June 20, 2014, 07:19:50 PM
My M6 Scout is what I prefer, 22lr/410
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Webfoot on June 20, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
I shoot all of my grouse with my savage over under. 22 mag over 20 guage.
Love this gun.

John
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on June 20, 2014, 07:25:19 PM
Normally use my bow
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: buglebuster on June 20, 2014, 07:32:17 PM
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Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: whackmaster on June 20, 2014, 07:39:19 PM
wow an even dozen  :tup:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: 87Ford on June 20, 2014, 07:40:29 PM
16 gauge Citori, imp/mod, #6's are a hammer..
Gonna break out the 16ga Gran Lightning this year
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Westside88 on June 20, 2014, 08:00:11 PM
Break action 410 with 3" magnum 6 shot
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Hunterman on June 20, 2014, 08:19:06 PM
The little .410 is the truck gun with #6 3" but normally it's the .30-06 with 150gr. hand loads.

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Smossy on June 20, 2014, 09:02:10 PM
Here's my poison
Buglebuster I think you just posted like 7 times :dunno:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Jellymon on June 20, 2014, 09:03:36 PM
Heres mine.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Smossy on June 20, 2014, 09:06:47 PM
Heres mine.
:tup:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: buglebuster on June 20, 2014, 09:18:55 PM
Sorry guys  :bash: :bash: I clicked submit once on tapatalk but have bad service. Idk what happened. I deleted all but 1.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: sled on June 20, 2014, 09:19:15 PM
  Depends On what Season IM Hunting Big Game.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Bean Counter on June 20, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
Dave,
May I suggest adding a poll?  8)
Bc

done...now it's your turn.

M'kay. I voted 12 gauge. Pump action. Bc it's all I have. Id love to have a nice 20 gauge O/U but I just don't bird hunt that much to justify the expense.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: wadu1 on June 20, 2014, 10:09:44 PM
I carry an old Russian 12 GA auto in the truck and a pocket of hand load number 8's and have never had a problem. I have used a 30-06, .308, .223, 45ACP, .22LR pistol and a .54 Muzzy. They all work for me  :twocents:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: bobcat on June 20, 2014, 10:22:29 PM

normally it's the .30-06 with 150gr. hand loads.

Hunterman(Tony)

:yike:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: bobcat on June 20, 2014, 10:22:44 PM

normally it's the .30-06 with 150gr. hand loads.

Hunterman(Tony)

:yike:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Dave Workman on June 21, 2014, 05:56:25 AM
normally it's the .30-06 with 150gr. hand loads.

Hunterman(Tony)


WTF???!!!  :yike:

Jeez, Louise.  Just how big are these grouse, and do they glow in the dark?

These must be grouse out of a Roger Corman monster flick.

Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Bigshooter on June 21, 2014, 06:24:08 AM
I mostly use a red label in 28ga with mod and full chokes.  With 3 different loads.  3/4oz, 7/8oz, or 1oz of 6 shot.  I start with the 3/4oz load to start the season and by the end of the season I am using 1oz.  That is unless I am hunting up high where I know I will be hunting just blue grouse.  Then I use a red label in 20ga with mod and full chokes, and I use 1oz or 1 1/8oz of 6 shot.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: acorn on June 27, 2014, 09:43:55 PM
In order of most grouse killed (by me):
-.22 lr
-.410 pump
-.30-30 win (head shots while deer hunting)
-12 pump

And I've managed to loose 4 arrows trying with my bow.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on June 28, 2014, 08:24:02 AM
most of the grouse i shoot are when i'm out looking for them, so my 20 gauge benelli montefeltro gets the vote.  a little over 5lbs, set up with an I/C choke and 6s or 7.5s in the magazine, deadly on those wood chickens.

i'd love to have a 28 gauge someday, but i definitely can't complain about my current setup :chuckle:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: jackson7 on June 28, 2014, 10:00:58 AM
20 gauge fox sterlingworth sxs choked improved/modified or Ithaca model 37 in 20 gauge.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: SeaRun1 on June 28, 2014, 10:08:51 AM
Picked up a 20g barrel for the Encore that is perfect for Grouse.  Last few were sniped with a little CZ 452 .22 LR.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Hunterman on June 28, 2014, 10:14:11 AM

normally it's the .30-06 with 150gr. hand loads.

Hunterman(Tony)

:yike:
normally it's the .30-06 with 150gr. hand loads.

Hunterman(Tony)


WTF???!!!  :yike:

Jeez, Louise.  Just how big are these grouse, and do they glow in the dark?

These must be grouse out of a Roger Corman monster flick.



Just your everyday size grouse. Head shot and you just have to wait until they quit flopping around  :tup:  No messed up meat, and keeping my shooting ability up  :tup: That's why I shoot deer and elk in the same spot.

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: joe_dumy on June 29, 2014, 07:59:31 AM
I use a 16ga with Mod Imp. I would shoot more open chokes but something in my mind makes me shoot to sloppy when I have open chokes.

I use reloads.

First barrel 1 1/4 oz spreader load #9 shot
Second Barrel 1 oz load fast load 7 1/2 shot.

Grouse are a hard bird to hit, not a hard bird to kill. Is what I was told and it seems to be true. So I try and give myself every advantage in my loads to bring them down. 
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: The scout on June 29, 2014, 08:15:18 AM
whatever's closest!
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: winshooter88 on June 29, 2014, 08:51:53 AM
17HMR, just make a head shot and your fine.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Don Fischer on June 29, 2014, 09:38:07 AM
Just going to be getting back to grouse this year, been a long long time. My favorite gun from the past was a Browning Double auto in 12ga w/26" skeet barrel. 7 1/2 shot. This year I'll be using my 28ga AyA using 7 1/2 shot. At one time I had a Rem 870 special Field in 20ga that was very good. My son has it now.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 29, 2014, 09:44:09 AM
You need to add archery ...a lot of bowhunters kill a lot of grouse when Big Game hunting  :dunno: :twocents: :tup:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: ICEMAN on June 29, 2014, 09:55:10 AM
20 gauge #6 for me...

22lr from my ruger if I am hunting deer or elk and happen across a bird.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: ghosthunter on June 29, 2014, 10:18:42 AM
My truck gun is a circuit judge.
Big game hunting I carry a judge revolver.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Hermit on July 18, 2014, 09:42:13 PM
20ga. with #4's or 6's.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Lee Root on July 18, 2014, 09:58:10 PM
So, another question I would like to see Dave ask: How many of you hunt grouse with a trained dog and only shoot them on the wing? It is a hell of a good time.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: packmule on July 19, 2014, 08:29:33 PM
Lee,
Do you focus on blues or ruffed grouse when you're doing that?  Sounds fun if you have decent grouse numbers.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: pcal on July 19, 2014, 08:58:06 PM
 A dog comes in handy. Especially a lewellen setter who can smell a cookie from 40'.lol I use 12 gauge with 6's but carry 4's for those 50 yd shots when I'm way above the dog in heavy country.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: WA hunter14 on July 19, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
surprised 22lr isnt on the poll?

ruger 10/22
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Lee Root on July 22, 2014, 06:39:10 PM
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Packmule: Ruffs here, blues and Franklins when we run into them.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Southpole on July 22, 2014, 07:35:30 PM
22 mag. (Ruger All Weather 77/22) I get em' right where the neck meets the body, nothin' wasted :tup:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: packmule on July 22, 2014, 08:38:55 PM
Lee Root, great picture!  Looks like fun!
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Special T on July 22, 2014, 09:01:51 PM
Savage Model 24 22lr 20 Ga. I love taking that gun for a walk on old logging roads after a rain in Skagit county. Killed grouse and rabbits that way and love it!
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: ing on July 22, 2014, 09:08:01 PM
Well I missed the pole but most of the grouse that I kill are with this old Winchester 16ga and #6's.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: merkelman on July 22, 2014, 10:16:46 PM
Good old Winchester model 24!
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: bobcat on July 22, 2014, 10:24:42 PM
Yes, I hunt 'em with a dog, in the good years. Problem is it's been 5 years since I've seen good grouse numbers. Here's a couple of pictures from 2009:

Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: ing on July 23, 2014, 12:21:24 AM
Good old Winchester model 24!
Yep. It's a solid gun for how old it is. 1949 is manufacture date on this one if I remember right.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on July 23, 2014, 02:50:00 AM
In order of most grouse killed (by me):
-.22 lr
-.410 pump
-.30-30 win (head shots while deer hunting)
-12 pump

And I've managed to loose 4 arrows trying with my bow.

Very similar...... Mine would be
.22 lr ....... also have taken most of my ptarmigan with a .22.
410 pump and single shot
.22 mag pistol with birdshot. I usually pack that with me when rifle hunting, just for grouse I jump.
12 gauge and 20 gauge before I decided they were both too much for grouse
30-06 those times when I'm deer hunting and forgot my .22 mag pistol.
sticks...... I've actually taken two grouse with a thrown stick. Knocked them out of trees and wrung their necks.
Never gotten one with a bow, but have tried.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Lee Root on July 23, 2014, 09:22:55 PM
December 31, 2014.
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Got to love a long season.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Axle on July 23, 2014, 09:48:12 PM
More with a bow than any other method. Sharp sticks rule!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: tonymiller7 on July 31, 2014, 12:43:59 PM
10/22 22lr :tup:

 :yeah:
And just to be sporting the rule is head shots only at anything under 50 yards.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Dave Workman on August 04, 2014, 04:44:07 AM
LOOKS LIKE THE 20 edged out everybody...except for .22s and arrows.   :rolleyes:

Well, less than a month to go.  I'm already working out my kinks...at my age, I've got plenty of them! ...and am rarin' to hit it hard on the opener. Drat that it opens on Labor Day Monday.  Ah, but the following weekend....

DEATH TO GROUSE!

(Is that un-American?)

With the big fires, I sure hope at least SOME good grouse country is being spared.   Now's the time to be buying a box of clays and putting them to work.  I already shot up a bunch, with hunting buddy Glockster.  We've got a couple of spots to visit. 

Good luck to all and thanks for participating in the poll.  Stay safe out there!




Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Don Fischer on August 05, 2014, 11:10:03 AM
So, another question I would like to see Dave ask: How many of you hunt grouse with a trained dog and only shoot them on the wing? It is a hell of a good time.

Without a dog I wouldn't hunt birds at all! Squirt and Bodie haven't had much experience with them and Stormy not much with anything!

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Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 05, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
Couple more weeks and it is a free for all ...Bear hunting - deer hunting - elk hunting and grouse hunting ...How in the heck did it get here so dang fast  :yike: :dunno: :archery_smiley: :cmp1: :bfg: :whoo: :whoo:  I am excited to get my NEW DOG out on some grouse ..they seem to be thick this year  :tup:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: 87Ford on August 05, 2014, 12:14:30 PM
I take my Lab grouse hunting on occasion.  He prefers roosters, but he's never opposed to chasing grouse.. :)
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Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: BiggLuke on August 05, 2014, 11:24:38 PM
Couple more weeks and it is a free for all ...Bear hunting - deer hunting - elk hunting and grouse hunting ...How in the heck did it get here so dang fast  :yike: :dunno: :archery_smiley: :cmp1: :bfg: :whoo: :whoo:  I am excited to get my NEW DOG out on some grouse ..they seem to be thick this year  :tup:

...You forgot rabbit and dove   :tup:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: hunterrcc on August 05, 2014, 11:28:47 PM
Chicken stock, onions, grouse cubed in pieces, chantrel mushrooms, salt & pepper, johnnys, garlic.  Sautee until cooked thicken with flour and stir in a little Soy sauce.  Serve over brown rice or noodles.  Super good with fresh venison or elk too! 
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on August 06, 2014, 07:28:06 AM
i shoot all my grouse on the wing(i've never seen one standing still unless i've been in my truck, and outside the season).  would love to have a dog, to maybe point out some of those birds flushing out of sight.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: gundogr on August 21, 2014, 09:54:12 PM
Fausti 20
REM 11-87 Upland Special 20
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: madmack76 on August 21, 2014, 10:13:40 PM
Kent fast steel is deadly in the .20 gauge.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Dave Workman on August 24, 2014, 09:52:18 AM
Yes, I hunt 'em with a dog, in the good years. Problem is it's been 5 years since I've seen good grouse numbers. Here's a couple of pictures from 2009:

Nice photos..
See, a lot of this depends upon where you hunt. Grouse are cyclic in a way. I think they are in pretty good shape in a lot of spots, and you might not find them where you used to simply because someone else found them first.

Years ago, I did a map story on one of my honey holes. That's what I get paid for, not for keeping secrets.  A week later I was back and not a bird to be seen, but I ran into a guy who told me about the four guys who read the story, showed up with a couple of dogs and shot the hell out of the grouse.  That's good and bad because it's almost genocide.

Another time I ran into a guy who killed 14 grouse out of one good area in one season.  For the next couple of years, there wasn't a bird to be seen. Then last year they bounced back real good.  This past month, a forest fire burned their habitat.

The birds survived presumably, but they will be found elsewhere.

My advantage is age. I've been around a long time and found A LOT of good grouse areas; places I can try and bring home birds.  I will do that again starting next week.

When I retire...if that day ever comes...I'm going to load up my camping gear and spend days wandering the slopes, just hunting grouse, enjoying the solitude and the silence, and maybe some company from new friends and old I run into along the way. 

In the meantime...don't kill 'em all. Reserve that for coyotes.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: huntingaddiction on August 24, 2014, 11:34:11 AM
My grouse spot has an aggressive lion in it and I refuse to take my dog up there until I have killed that lion!
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Dave Workman on August 25, 2014, 08:53:11 AM
My grouse spot has an aggressive lion in it and I refuse to take my dog up there until I have killed that lion!

Good luck with that. I suspect there are more mountain lions in this state than the WDFW says. One good reason for mule deer problems bouncing back from the problem they had a couple of years ago.

Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: huntingaddiction on August 25, 2014, 09:35:16 AM
I have seen him both times I have been up there.  And I think you're right.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Dave Workman on August 26, 2014, 07:56:31 AM
I have seen him both times I have been up there.  And I think you're right.

Well, ahem, I am typically right.   ;)  :chuckle:



Some say even Far Right.....
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Mo on August 31, 2014, 10:31:25 AM
The vast majority have been with my Single Six.

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Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Cap.Silver on August 31, 2014, 10:56:46 AM
I think Bugelbuster wins this  :tup: good job  :chuckle:
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on August 31, 2014, 01:43:29 PM
The vast majority have been with my Single Six.


Mo, that's exactly what I use, with the .22 mag cylinder in and bird shot, for my grouse gun when I'm big game hunting. Then it's my 10/22 with solid slugs for when I'm just after grouse, ptarmigan, or small game such as hares.
Title: Re: What's your poison for grouse?
Post by: JJB11B on August 31, 2014, 02:44:23 PM
Im not hunting big game this year so I will probably take my Winchester SXII Auto loader and a hand full of #4 that I keep in the truck. I have 5 Buckshot on the stock and 3 slugs in the sling if I run into a bear or kitty kat...
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