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Title: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 26, 2014, 09:36:46 PM
I had a licensed taxi do a shoulder mount on my 2013 WT. He had done a few for my dad and friends years ago and they turned out fine, but not perfect. He charges about $350 and has a six month turnaround.
I thought I would give him a shot thinking he  probably improved since the one he done for dad was many years ago. Since he is in SE WA & I'm in western wa, I had my dad pick it up, so I wasn't there to complain before it left the shop.
I told him I wanted a semi up right form looking left and I got a standard upright formlooking forward. My biggest complaint is the nose!!!......it seems crooked, the nostrils still have blood in the & the nose just looks terrible. Almost like a dried up prune or something.
So.....
What are my options? I could call him, but he is old , just lost his wife and I'm not sure I trust him to try and fix it. I could however ask for some $ back.
Are there Amy taxidermist in western Washington close to Redmond, fall city, NorthBend who could do anything short of starting from scratch with a different cape.
Though not a huge buck, it hold a lot of sentimental value as it will probably be the last one I get to take with my aging dad.
Any suggestion are appreciated. Keep in mind, I just had a kid and we are buying a house so money is somewhat of an issue.

Thanks,

Tyson
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 26, 2014, 09:44:21 PM
Can some rotate these pics for me? Was transferring from phone to iPad & got kitty wompus on me.


I lose sleep over this mount!!!!
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: beaslayer6 on June 27, 2014, 08:17:39 AM
Ya, I would to. I would call natures way but I'm not sure what he can do with it. that's a nice buck I would call him and at least get money back or try. but more then likely you won't. and do not take it back to him.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: Knocker of rocks on June 27, 2014, 09:13:31 AM
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Can some rotate these pics
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 27, 2014, 09:24:17 AM
I suppose I can learn to live with the form, but the nose job drives me nuts!
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: Killmore on June 27, 2014, 11:05:24 AM
Good God Man, Do not take it back to him!!!! Call stan's taxi in trout creek mt, They come to Enumclaw a few times a year and pickup and drop off.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: ghosthunter on June 27, 2014, 11:26:30 AM
I would email some taxis, some photos ask what could be done about the nose and live with the rest.

We all become better educated after these events.

 :twocents:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: Band on June 27, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
That came from a licensed taxidermist?  Must not take much to get a license.  Sorry, that looks awful. :(
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: Johnb317 on June 27, 2014, 12:32:38 PM
Rudolph?


Sometimes that great deal isn't.   :bash:

Bummer   
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: ICEMAN on June 27, 2014, 01:36:23 PM
Yikes!
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: sirmissalot on June 27, 2014, 02:01:04 PM
All it takes to become licensed is money.

That is a horrible mount. I have a mule deer mount that I thought was mad...
That's bad.


Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on June 27, 2014, 02:21:29 PM
That whitetail would have given michael jackson a run for his money...

Sorry you got back a crummy mount..

Nice rack though  :tup:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: Bean Counter on June 27, 2014, 02:38:50 PM
$350? Sounds like you got what you paid for. Sorry you're disappointed.

"Take the time to do it right, so that it takes less time."
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 27, 2014, 02:47:54 PM
Your very right $350 was too good to be true.
Should have just stuck to euros.
Now I have to pay to fix this one. Don't want to recape and form for another $800 so hopefully I can just get the nose looking more normal by someone.
Worst case scenario. ...i cut my losses & turn him into a euro if I can find a real skull.
Pretty bummed
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: Bean Counter on June 27, 2014, 03:34:46 PM
I speak from experience so don't feel condemned. I am a cheapskate from birth and it seems as though the life study is determining which areas one can wisely go low cost in, and in which areas it's better to spend big bucks up front.  I have a trophy elk tag this fall and I'm emotionally preparing myself for the $1,300 a "basic" shoulder mount is going to cost.


OTOH I've recently learned that Crapple Macintrash is not a wise purchase for computers. Esp given their exorbitant cost. I have one of their laptops that cost an arm and a leg and died due to a manufacturing defect. Last less than two years. Costco would have been 50% cheaper and would have replaced it within 2 years. Live and learn I guess.  :bash:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 27, 2014, 03:54:06 PM
 :yike: I would have paid him nothing ..I would have told him to cut the dang horns off the form and told him to keep his parts  :dunno: :yike:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: Gringo31 on June 27, 2014, 04:06:04 PM
Wow....sorry to see and hear that.


Only money will fix it and it sounds like you're tight on it and he may not help.  You need to talk to him and give him the chance to make it right.....if it's even possible outside of a refund.

It's not just the nose....   :twocents:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 27, 2014, 04:30:34 PM
Just spoke with him, he admitted fualt. Offered to fix or refund. He is mailing me a check for $350. I think he saw his handy work posted on this forum  and was very apologetic.

Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: Elkstuffer on June 27, 2014, 04:44:42 PM
Hard to tell but it looks like that cape was pickled and not shaved and tanned. I see it a lot with part timers that charge less and are trying to save some money. Problem is is that it is at the customers expense. I have a couple in my shop now that look the same. They were brought in by people that were trying to save a buck. The best solution is to start over with a new cape. Sorry this isn't what you want to hear but that buck is actually rotting on the wall and will continue to get worse no matter how much money you throw at it. That is a fantastic whitetail by the way.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: jackelope on June 27, 2014, 04:58:16 PM
With a new kid, new house etc...it's just not in the cards to start over. You don't think a taxi could just fix the nose & mouth?
My back up plan is to get a big skull from BUGS & BONES and maybe see if he could do a nice euro for me...?
Shame cause I shot this guy in the rut & his next was huge.
Another mistake he made was not measuring spread before starting. It was wider that it is now mounted!

Elkstuffer is a taxi.

This is unfortunate evidence of what happens when you pay half price and get the mount back in half the time unfortunately.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: jjhunter on June 27, 2014, 05:02:07 PM
I can give you my cape this year if you want to remount down the road?
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: sirmissalot on June 27, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
It's not just the nose. The whole thing is messed up. His throat patch as well as his brisket are off center for one, the ears are messed up, his entire face looks unnatural.

You need a new cape and start over. That's a great buck and right now it looks like a joke... You can do a euro or just a plain old leather wrapped horn mount and it will look good, classy and preserve your trophy. I'm sorry about your luck but taxidermy is certainly one of the things that the saying "you get what you pay for" rings true.


Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 27, 2014, 05:23:16 PM
Aggreed, but the throat patch was always a Lil off to the left when I shot it.
So in your opinion, if I can only throw another $350 into it, the best course of action is scrap the entire mount & see if I can get some one like bug-n-bones to mount them on a real WT skull?

What would I do with the form and cape?  Seems a waste to toss....
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: jackelope on June 27, 2014, 05:30:44 PM
Keep it like it is for now. Save up enough money to re-do it right and re-do it right.

If the form is not what you wanted, then you might be able to sell it? If it'll work maybe you could reuse it when you have the coin to have another mount done.

The cape is shot.

Or have Mike set you up with the euro like you mentioned, although I'm not sure how he'd put your antlers on a real whitetail skull. Maybe he can I guess. You could get a reproduction skull too.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: jburkett on June 27, 2014, 05:33:36 PM
Hard to tell but it looks like that cape was pickled and not shaved and tanned. I see it a lot with part timers that charge less and are trying to save some money. Problem is is that it is at the customers expense. I have a couple in my shop now that look the same. They were brought in by people that were trying to save a buck. The best solution is to start over with a new cape. Sorry this isn't what you want to hear but that buck is actually rotting on the wall and will continue to get worse no matter how much money you throw at it. That is a fantastic whitetail by the way.
looks very familiar doesn't it Ric. I'm sure glad I got a  good taxi, I could imagine having a buck that looks deader on the wall then he did on the buck pole
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: jrebel on June 27, 2014, 05:40:21 PM
Keep it like it is....hang it on your wall and be proud of the rack.  Next time you shoot a toad animal look at that deer before choosing just any taxidermist.  Take the 350 dollars and put it in your taxi / gun fund (locked up in your safe) add 5 dollars a week minimum and it will grow fast.  Every hunter on a budget should have a gun / taxi fund that accumulates at $20 per month minimum.  Less than the cost of a coffee per week.   If you have a fund this will never happen again.   :tup:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 27, 2014, 06:18:58 PM
He told me he sent the hide to a tannery :dunno:
Forgive my ignorance,  can't I just have some quality taxi fix the nose and a few other things?
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: elkhunter1977 on June 27, 2014, 06:36:35 PM
With the amount of time it's going to take to fix that with the existing cape (even if it's possible depending on how it was tanned)it's not going to be cheap. IMHO you'd be better off taking the $350 your getting back and saving for a remount or just having a nice antler plaque made up. Can a good taxi fix it? Maybe, lots of factors. Is it worth it? Not with the way the rest of the mount looks. Sad because it sure is a nice buck. Good luck.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 27, 2014, 07:40:38 PM
Aggreed, but the throat patch was always a Lil off to the left when I shot it.
So in your opinion, if I can only throw another $350 into it, the best course of action is scrap the entire mount & see if I can get some one like bug-n-bones to mount them on a real WT skull?

What would I do with the form and cape?  Seems a waste to toss....
Man ..that's a nice deer..as far as forms go they are cheap ...Just get a cape and have someone re-mount it  :tup: :twocents:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 27, 2014, 09:47:43 PM
Ceder river is offering a deal hard to turn down! Hope it works out. Thanks CederRiver, very generous!
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: lewy on June 27, 2014, 10:20:57 PM
Ive got a wt cape in the freezer you can have, its a nov. 2013 Idaho buck. If that helps let me know.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 27, 2014, 10:24:03 PM
Ive got a wt cape in the freezer you can have, its a nov. 2013 Idaho buck. If that helps let me know.

That sounds awesome! I'll take it just in case mine isn't salvageable.  PM me your contact info.
Thanks
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: h2ofowlr on June 27, 2014, 10:26:40 PM
Looks better than my botched BT that I had a taxi do for me. 
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: bugs n bones on June 27, 2014, 10:28:28 PM
Aggreed, but the throat patch was always a Lil off to the left when I shot it.
So in your opinion, if I can only throw another $350 into it, the best course of action is scrap the entire mount & see if I can get some one like bug-n-bones to mount them on a real WT skull?

What would I do with the form and cape?  Seems a waste to toss....
that's a dandy buck
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: lewy on June 27, 2014, 10:29:23 PM
Ive got a wt cape in the freezer you can have, its a nov. 2013 Idaho buck. If that helps let me know.

That sounds awesome! I'll take it just in case mine isn't salvageable.  PM me your contact info.
Thanks

Will do
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 27, 2014, 10:31:33 PM
Quote from: lewy link=topic=15601

9.msg2066835#msg2066835 date=1403932857
Ive got a wt cape in the freezer you can have, its a nov. 2013 Idaho buck. If that helps let me know.

That sounds awesome! I'll take it just in case mine isn't salvageable.  PM me your contact info.
Thanks

Will do


Thanks!! I think Buckley is close to CederRiver tax any way
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: bugs n bones on June 27, 2014, 10:34:12 PM
Ceder river is offering a deal hard to turn down! Hope it works out. Thanks CederRiver, very generous!
I would take rick up if he is offering, you won't be sorry :tup:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: lewy on June 27, 2014, 10:35:05 PM
Quote from: lewy link=topic=15601

9.msg2066835#msg2066835 date=1403932857
Ive got a wt cape in the freezer you can have, its a nov. 2013 Idaho buck. If that helps let me know.

That sounds awesome! I'll take it just in case mine isn't salvageable.  PM me your contact info.
Thanks

Will do


Thanks!! I think Buckley is close to CederRiver tax any way

Yep not far at all
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: 6x6in6 on June 27, 2014, 10:38:02 PM
Ceder river is offering a deal hard to turn down! Hope it works out. Thanks CederRiver, very generous!
I would take rick up if he is offering, you won't be sorry :tup:
I would too.  Rick will do you a very fine job.  Take a drive out to his shop with your mount and talk directly with him.  He'll give you the straight skinny on what can be done or not done. 
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 28, 2014, 05:10:37 PM
He told me he sent the hide to a tannery :dunno:
Forgive my ignorance,  can't I just have some quality taxi fix the nose and a few other things?

Now he tells me he used some instant vandykes preserve  :bash:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: bugs n bones on June 28, 2014, 05:56:47 PM
That's sucks, sorry to hear that....hopefully he will refund you the money.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 28, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
That's sucks, sorry to hear that....hopefully he will refund you the money.

He did, but the damage has already been done.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 28, 2014, 06:57:34 PM
  Take one of the capes when you go see Cedar River.  The cape on that mounted buck is finished.  And like they said, it's not just the nose; the brisket was off center when he sewed it up and that pulled the throat patch, eyes and ears out of place.  I think you are on the right track T-Dozz.  Go have him redone.

I liked the advice about putting $5 a week into a "gun fund".  I have been doing that for the bow I just bought.  They are right, it builds up... :tup:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 28, 2014, 07:00:23 PM
  Take one of the capes when you go see Cedar River.  The cape on that mounted buck is finished.  And like they said, it's not just the nose; the brisket was off center when he sewed it up and that pulled the throat patch, eyes and ears out of place.  I think you are on the right track T-Dozz.  Go have him redone.

I liked the advice about putting $5 a week into a "gun fund".  I have been doing that for the bow I just bought.  They are right, it builds up... :tup:

I got a couple capes lined up as we speak hopefully
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 28, 2014, 07:06:56 PM
  Take one of the capes when you go see Cedar River.  The cape on that mounted buck is finished.  And like they said, it's not just the nose; the brisket was off center when he sewed it up and that pulled the throat patch, eyes and ears out of place.  I think you are on the right track T-Dozz.  Go have him redone.

I liked the advice about putting $5 a week into a "gun fund".  I have been doing that for the bow I just bought.  They are right, it builds up... :tup:

I got a couple capes lined up as we speak hopefully

Yeah, I saw that.  That's why I advised you accept one.  I don't think a taxi can save yours.
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 28, 2014, 07:46:07 PM
Good guys on this forum. :) :) :tup:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 01, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
yeah that's cool when someone wants to help someone out  :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: dscubame on July 01, 2014, 03:46:10 PM
Great thread. 
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: Call em in on July 11, 2014, 09:04:09 AM
Yes, take it to Rick at Cedar River.

I know money is tight and a quick turn around time is appealing but consider how long it will hang on your wall and how often you will look at it, enjoy it, show it to friends and family.  If you feel an animal is "worth" mounting, any animal, pay to have it done right and wait to have the results you want.  You'll be much happier in the long run!  :twocents:
Title: Re: Here is my dilemma....need taxi help on a botched mount. what are my options?
Post by: T-Dozzer on July 11, 2014, 10:20:58 AM
I'm fine spending the money & waiting.  Goes to ceder river tomorrow.
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