Post by: RustneckNW on December 03, 2008, 01:16:49 PM
I've been thinking about the Ruger 944, but there are so many choices out there!! Anyone have any ideas?
Post by: Grizzly95 on December 03, 2008, 01:22:28 PM
Post by: KillBilly on December 03, 2008, 01:25:55 PM
So, my wife and I are getting our CWP's for each other for Xmas, which means I get to (finally) buy a handgun! I figure someone out there might have some input about what's on the market right now... I'm thinking about a 40S&W, but I don't have a ton of $$$.
I've been thinking about the Ruger 944, but there are so many choices out there!! Anyone have any ideas?
Look at the Steyr M40A1. It runs about $399.00 last I looked. Steyr is a very reputable weapons manufacturer and now has a factory in Georgia. I had one in .40 Cal. but traded it for a rifle. It is a very comfortable weapon and works great for concealment. :twocents: The other good option is a Taurus 24/7, they go for between $369.00 and $400.00 at impact guns.
Post by: Sagedawg on December 03, 2008, 01:28:01 PM
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Post by: RustneckNW on December 03, 2008, 01:40:12 PM
Or, how 'bout this... any recommendations on what to stay away from??
Anyone ever shot a Bersa or a Hi-Point?
I kinda like the look of the Beretta Storm, but they may be too pricey...
Post by: Coasthunterjay on December 03, 2008, 01:43:05 PM
Look at the Steyr M40A1. It runs about $399.00 last I looked. Steyr is a very reputable weapons manufacturer and now has a factory in Georgia. I had one in .40 Cal. but traded it for a rifle. It is a very comfortable weapon and works great for concealment. :twocents: The other good option is a Taurus 24/7, they go for between $369.00 and $400.00 at impact guns.
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Post by: WildlifeAssassin on December 03, 2008, 01:46:24 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on December 03, 2008, 01:47:24 PM
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Post by: snagglepants on December 03, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Anyone heard anything about the Smith & Wesson Sigma's?
Or, how 'bout this... any recommendations on what to stay away from??
Anyone ever shot a Bersa or a Hi-Point?
I kinda like the look of the Beretta Storm, but they may be too pricey...
I own a Hi-point c-9 as well as an older Bersa .380acp. I can tell you that they are both very nice guns. Don't let the price or the bad mouthing you read about hi-points scare you off. Most people online that dump on hi-points have never even shot one. Granted, if I could have afforded more at the time, I might have bought something else, but it is a solid, reliable american gun with a lifetime warranty. I will say that all of the guns you are mentioning are full-sized and although not impossible, they are more difficult to conceal if you are looking for a strict carry gun, especially if you are shorter (like me) Also, if you are interested, I have a posting right now with a 9mm hi point up for sale or trade....just a thought
Post by: MHWASH on December 03, 2008, 05:05:36 PM
Post by: cackle on December 03, 2008, 05:45:50 PM
I find I leave my gun at home alot because it is just to big to carry all the time
Post by: Antlershed on December 03, 2008, 05:47:46 PM
Post by: Bscman on December 03, 2008, 06:41:30 PM
The sub-compact is easy enough to conceal, but it's awefully small for a snappy .40SW...especially for your wife to shoot. I agree with some of the others--if you get something too big, you'll find yourself wanting to leave it at home.
The sigma is something to steer clear of, IMHO.
It's reliable, and functional, but has a terrible trigger. It's one of the "jokes" running around most of the pistol forums online. Think of it like you would a Remington 770 rifle...okay for the "weekend warrior who doesn't know better."
Bersa is a true underdog...and often passed over.
In reality, they make great pistols that don't require much break-in. They like to be CLEAN, but for the price they are hard to beat. I have a Bersa Thunder in .380 that will be my carry pistol when I finally get my permit in the mail...lol.
I'd easily trust my life to it. Light, small, easy to conceal. They're a great choice, IMHO....if you don't mind packing a .380. Read the forums and reviews--they get great marks.
The Smith and Wesson M&P is decent, as is glock. Either of these, plus the XD will be equally reliable and of the same overall size and weight. Find the one that is most comfortable for you...and you can't go wrong with any of the above. There is a $50 rebate right now on the M&P....the 9c would be a great CCW choice, IMHO.
Personally, I'm a DA/SA kind of guy. I like alloy frames, and I don't like striker fired pistols much (most have aweful triggers).
Single action is more fun at the range as well...
The top of my list would be a CZ Rami or CZ-75 compact, Magnum Research baby eagle (Steel, not poly!), or Sig 228 or 229.
Taurus revolvers are pretty decent...just handle the one you're buying first--some have some timing/lockup issues. They usually aren't big issues, but if you're spending your hard earned money, why settle with "just inside spec.?"
Their auto's are hit and miss. You'll either get a lemon or get a real winner. They are reliable when they work right, and their PT145 (45acp) is very comfy to shoot.
The manager at the gun counter at my local Sportsman's Warehouse summed it up well. "They're a great gun to have two of...one to shoot, one for parts."
I don't like their plastic magazine catches. On the plus side, they have a lifetime warrantee...
KelTec is about the same...
You might get lucky and find a keeper...or a fixer-upper. The newest ones have the quierks worked out, though. They finally re-designed the trigger (no more short stroking like the LCP), and added a metal magazine catch. They are hard to shoot accurately and are snappy, though! But that all comes from their size.
Keep in mind 40S&W is running $13-15 per box. 9mm is can still be had at walmart for $8.97 per box, and most shops it's still $10-12. You can get blazer aluminum 9mm for $7.50 per box online if you look hard enough. The more you can afford to shoot, the better off you are...and with some of the new high quality 9mm +P, you can get *near* .40S&W performance for your carry ammo.
In most shootings, there isn't enough time to find the sights--it's often instinctive. They also say it takes ~1,500rnds to become sufficient with a given handgun, and 1,000rnds per year to remain sufficient. If you can't afford the ammo, you won't get the practice. If you can't hit what you aim at, what good is a bigger caliber?
9mm is 20-30% cheaper, which means 20-30% more practice. It'll also be easier for your wife to shoot! Also remember...The smaller the pistol, the snappier the recoil!!!
My girlfriend hates shooting my full size XD-40. She even has a hard time shooting by buddies XD 9mm sub-compact...but she loves shooting the Bersa. She's accurate with it, it fits her hand well, and best of all...she enjoys shooting it.
Tons of choices out there, and it's tough to pick a "bad one" these days.
Your best bet is to find a local range that will rent you a few pistols, and try a few calibers and makes...find what you like and what you are accurate with.
There are a few ranges in my area that rent pistols for under $10 each + cost of ammo. That's much cheaper than spending $500 and realizing you hate your new investment!
Last but not least, don't rule something out just because it's too big--do a true comparison.
The M&P, Glock, XD, CZ, SIG, etc all come in different sizes from sub compact, compact, service, tactical, etc. They all make tiny concealed carry versions, up to full size versions of the same design. So don't rule out a glock because it's bigger than the M&P you're looking at...go find the smaller model glock, or vice versa and make a true comparison!!!
Post by: RustneckNW on December 05, 2008, 10:50:06 AM
As to my gun search... I think I'm gonna drive myself crazy looking for the "Perfect one" for me...
I think I'll spend some time down the street at the Bullseye!
Post by: Antlershed on December 05, 2008, 10:55:03 AM
Post by: cackle on December 05, 2008, 05:27:05 PM
Post by: cohoho on December 05, 2008, 08:23:07 PM
In my opinon a conceled weapon = a small weapon! I highly recommend the S&W 642 in .38. Very concealable and easy to shoot. I can put mine in my pants pocket.
Reason I bought one also, it's all about concealment..... A carry gun that you can actually carry...... Rounded edges no hammer and nothing to get caught up on.... Add the upgrade and get the laser grips, great shooting little gun... If not for concealment, then get a Kimber, nothing else will compare.
Post by: jeff100 on December 06, 2008, 01:12:16 AM
Post by: rasbo on December 06, 2008, 04:26:11 AM
Post by: RustneckNW on December 06, 2008, 05:23:22 AM
Post by: snagglepants on December 06, 2008, 08:36:02 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 06, 2008, 08:46:40 AM
Post by: uncoolperson on December 06, 2008, 09:08:47 AM
or two charter arms revolvers, small and concealable... and they make a pink one (my wife likes all her pink guns).
Post by: jeff100 on December 06, 2008, 08:55:53 PM
Post by: 7mag. on December 07, 2008, 10:19:42 AM