Post by: luvmystang67 on July 24, 2014, 10:57:54 AM
Given that I haven't heard anything back in the last 2 months, I'm not expecting to hear anything back on this request.
Thanks to those of you who have helped get me to this point at least and here's to hoping I'm able to get ahold of the taxi and recover my things. :brew:
This thread will serve as my public complaint and peer counseling. Any wager on estimated time this takes?
Post by: NRA4LIFE on July 24, 2014, 11:12:24 AM
Post by: Hunter Dug on July 24, 2014, 11:12:49 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on July 24, 2014, 11:44:10 AM
Post by: dontgetcrabs on July 24, 2014, 12:10:11 PM
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 24, 2014, 12:31:28 PM
I am guessing this will end up in small claims if it is not over the money limit.
I believe I have paid $850. I'm not sure what I should have expected to have done for that. I FEEL like I should have some money coming back, but I'm primarily concerned with getting my stuff back... Its about a 3 hour drive for me and I'm really not excited about the idea of showing up unannounced. I don't feel like I should have to do that. Adults should be able to settle things more civilly than that.
I even proposed a date, next week Saturday. We'll see. I'll keep you posted.
Post by: Curly on July 24, 2014, 12:34:05 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on July 24, 2014, 12:43:46 PM
I wonder who in the world it could be? :chuckle:
LOL ... Softball question of the day :chuckle:
Post by: MADMAX on July 24, 2014, 12:51:58 PM
Small claims and a demand for your head/horns or hide.
3 hr drive is nothing, I'd quit being a nice guy by now if I were you.
Post by: Band on July 24, 2014, 03:23:27 PM
I would plan a camping trip to whereFixed it for ya. ;)he/she lives.
Post by: dscubame on July 24, 2014, 03:28:38 PM
Post by: h20hunter on July 24, 2014, 03:31:53 PM
Post by: dscubame on July 24, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on July 25, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 28, 2014, 07:16:31 AM
So, after 2 months of trying to contact this person to talk about where things were and progress, with no returned calls and zero success... I finally made all the calls saying I wanted my stuff back (previously mentioned). I received return contact within 24 hours, which is GREAT!
Now for the bad news...
The phone rang for 1.5 rings and stopped. Apparently my voicemail doesn't work and hasn't for the last month (despite that I had voicemails that morning and afterward). At that point I engaged in text conversation and explained very clearly that I would come down to retrieve my things and simply asked for a date and time. I was told that a date and time could not be provided because the taxi did not know if they would be around next weekend and could not provide me a date until my bill was calculated for the work done on my form. I responded that I was more than happy to pay for any work done as long as I could keep the form and asked when the bill could be calculated. No time was provided for the bill completion, therefore no time was provided for me to come down (the window I asked for was any weekday after 7pm so I could come after work or anytime next weekend). Text conversation stopped and I haven't had a response since despite many follow-on texts asking for a date and time.
Sidenote (and I'm not upset about this, but just an update): I can only pick up one of my items because the bear I brought in Nov 2013 isn't back from the tannery yet, which sounds somewhat reasonable given tannery lead times, however I would like to go and pick up the 2012 bear and 2013 skull if its available.
I wonder if I'll get my stuff back or have any communication again? This all happened Thursday morning, which happened to be my birthday (yay... fun birthday times :bash:)
Post by: MADMAX on July 28, 2014, 07:20:58 AM
My bear killed 11/2013 was done at the tannery 2 months ago and on my wall as a pelt not a rug
Skull was done within 2 weeks of being brought in
local Kitsap taxi.
serve her with a small claims case and get your stuff back
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 28, 2014, 07:23:08 AM
When you've sat on hold for a customer service rep for an hour or so...lets say a cable company to talk about a problem with your bill (someone you HAVE to call, but you really aren't looking forward to talking to) and then you FINALLY get them on the phone and just explain your problem... and then get cut off.
Post by: h20hunter on July 28, 2014, 07:44:13 AM
:stirthepot:
Post by: Tbar on July 28, 2014, 07:57:14 AM
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 28, 2014, 08:00:03 AM
Yeah....just ask about which tannery, make a professional and polite call, and get an eta. How hard is that?
:stirthepot:
So, I didn't explicitly ask WHO was the tannery, but I did ask if I could have them ship the hide directly back to me and ask if I could call them. The response was they won't do that (ship it direct to me) which I could understand. I was told that the tannery would only deal with the taxi (by the taxi) due to my taxi's labeling system. I then asked if either myself or my taxi could call them and ask about their progress and that question was circumvented to say what their average return time is.
SO, end of the day, maybe one hide isn't back from the tannery (okay), but there were no moves made to check in on it for me.
Really this is just a side issue to the fact that I cannot pick up the things that ARE done. Clearly I'd like it all back in one trip, but if that doesn't happen I guess I'll make two. I'd really just like to get step 1 done first, get my stuff that is available...
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 28, 2014, 08:03:29 AM
Luvmystang67 do you mind telling us who the taxi is? I'm just curious so I don't use them.
In an effort to get this resolved amicably, I will refrain from posting the taxi info publicly, but I'd be happy to discuss my review over PM.
Post by: ICEMAN on July 28, 2014, 06:56:30 PM
Post by: dscubame on July 28, 2014, 07:06:01 PM
luvmymustang67....when I got no response, I had my highschool aged son knock on my taxi's door in an attempt to get the taxi to answer the door. He posed as a local HS kid looking for information/donation...when my taxi opened the door fully, I walked around the corner to confront the taxi.
That's amazing Ice that you had to go to such length. Truly speaks to all the headache you must have been put through.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 28, 2014, 07:17:13 PM
luvmymustang67....when I got no response, I had my highschool aged son knock on my taxi's door in an attempt to get the taxi to answer the door. He posed as a local HS kid looking for information/donation...when my taxi opened the door fully, I walked around the corner to confront the taxi.
That made me laugh hard! :chuckle: Even though its not a laughing matter.....
Post by: ICEMAN on July 28, 2014, 07:21:25 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 28, 2014, 07:38:09 PM
It was pretty funny....I'll bet she shafted her pants. :chuckle:
Post by: Band on July 28, 2014, 09:40:16 PM
luvmymustang67....when I got no response, I had my highschool aged son knock on my taxi's door in an attempt to get the taxi to answer the door. He posed as a local HS kid looking for information/donation...when my taxi opened the door fully, I walked around the corner to confront the taxi.What, you mean there are TWO taxidermists on earth like this? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. ;)
Post by: h2ofowlr on July 28, 2014, 10:13:05 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 28, 2014, 10:22:52 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on July 29, 2014, 06:44:42 AM
I almost want to take the taxi an animal so I can have a thread too. :chuckle:
You may never escape.
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 29, 2014, 07:23:25 AM
request by me asking when I can come get my stuff...
How long do you think it'll take? Do i need to start texting at midnight to be heard? :bash:
Post by: quadrafire on July 29, 2014, 07:36:52 AM
I almost want to take the taxi an animal so I can have a thread too. :chuckle:That is Too Funny........ :chuckle:
Post by: h2ofowlr on July 29, 2014, 07:53:06 AM
Post on their facebook wall, taxidermy.net, pull out all the stops if you have too. I don't think you can go too far at this point, any response will be good. Just pester them until you get some type of a response. I hate to act like a bill collector, but if it gets results them so be it.
I don't think this will get him anywhere. From my recollection it will some how be his fault he doesn't have his stuff back. Didn't pay the 4th or 5th down payment, his VM didn't work. When contacted back at 4am, no one answered. The tannery is now 12 years behind schedule. Custom form was made from exotic foam tree in a country I never heard of and takes 5 years to grow, etc, etc. UPS wants to charge $.25 CENTS more than one wants to pay and is only open during hours that one likes to sleep. etc., etc., :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 29, 2014, 07:57:54 AM
Post on their facebook wall, taxidermy.net, pull out all the stops if you have too. I don't think you can go too far at this point, any response will be good. Just pester them until you get some type of a response. I hate to act like a bill collector, but if it gets results them so be it.
I don't think this will get him anywhere. From my recollection it will some how be his fault he doesn't have his stuff back. Didn't pay the 4th or 5th down payment, his VM didn't work. When contacted back at 4am, no one answered. The tannery is now 12 years behind schedule. Custom form was made from exotic foam tree in a country I never heard of and takes 5 years to grow, etc, etc. UPS wants to charge $.25 CENTS more than one wants to pay and is only open during hours that one likes to sleep. etc., etc., :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
:yeah: :bash:
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 29, 2014, 08:08:02 AM
Just saying it worked for me.
Sent from my C811 4G using Tapatalk
I'm not quite to public shaming yet, but after a week... we'll see.
Post by: h2ofowlr on July 29, 2014, 08:09:00 AM
Just saying it worked for me.
Sent from my C811 4G using Tapatalk
Good thing it worked for you. I saw the last individual had the entire forum trying to help him out. I think with everyone finally calling and all the offers of helping out on freight, personal pick up, etc., it finally got the job done. I believe with him leaving the name out, he is hoping it will resolve sooner than later in a normal business fashion.
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 29, 2014, 01:38:13 PM
Post by: h20hunter on July 29, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 31, 2014, 10:38:43 AM
I hope my 6 hours of driving is fruitful, otherwise I might begin to get upset.
Post by: Woodchuck on July 31, 2014, 10:42:38 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 31, 2014, 10:48:25 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 31, 2014, 10:52:14 AM
Let's not derail the thread any further please. The OP has done his level best to keep this clean and respectful. :twocents:why would we do that? This taxi has no respect for his/her clients?
Post by: Woodchuck on July 31, 2014, 10:53:28 AM
Post by: Southpole on July 31, 2014, 12:33:26 PM
I have a kid at work who's rug has been there longer than your stuff can he ride down with you. Perhaps we should start a hunt WA recover team. We can rollout like regulators and get you stuff back.I think Gringo31 was looking to get is stuff back too. I have an old shuttle bus I can pick everyone up in, it fits about 20 people comfortably :dunno: :chuckle: .
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 31, 2014, 01:07:13 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 31, 2014, 01:27:49 PM
Got it. Not that it was a big bear by any means but first big game hunt, first bear, first time out. I hope it works out for him.he was pretty lucky. I would have shot it if he wasn't there. I felt my efforts to help the kid where good.
Post by: TRB on July 31, 2014, 03:47:28 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 31, 2014, 04:03:54 PM
Post by: Buckmark on July 31, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
I would be a little cautious about getting a half dozen upset grown men together and converging on her place all at once....I could see the sheriff being called... :twocents:
Post by: jackelope on July 31, 2014, 05:44:09 PM
Thanks guys.
Post by: DONEWITHHW on July 31, 2014, 05:57:43 PM
I do not know who the “female” taxidermist is mentioned in the post, but do want to share a couple of terms with the members, moderators, and owners of this group.
“Assault”: 1) v. the threat or attempt to strike another, whether successful or not, provided the target is aware of the danger. The assaulter must be reasonably capable of carrying through the attack. Assault is both a criminal wrong, for which one may be charged and tried, and civil wrong for which the target may sue for damages due to the assault, including for mental distress.
“Conspiracy”: n. when people work together by agreement to commit an illegal act. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful. To prove a conspiracy those involved must have agreed to the plan before all the actions have been taken, or it is just a series of independent illegal acts. A conspiracy can be criminal for planning and carrying out illegal activities, or give rise to a civil lawsuit for damages by someone injured by the conspiracy.
“Slander”: 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for general damages for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called special damages. Libel per se involves statements so vicious that malice is assumed and does not require a proof of intent to get an award of general damages. Libel against the reputation of a person who has died will allow surviving members of the family to bring an action for damages. Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction.
As I said, I do not know who the taxidermist you mention is, but being a female could generate a discrimination charge by the public, and by the post’s on this forum, I do have serious concerns that members are close to, if not have already crossed into one or more of the above. As I read the agreement that we all agreed to upon joining Hunting Washington, it appears that members have violated that agreement. Threatening to poison her with jerky strips is in my opinion is well over the line.
There may be some debate about this forum’s owner’s responsibilities, and the individual user’s responsibilities. I would like to also add the following: “Anonymity of the internet increases the willingness and boldness of an individual to criticize. Some supporters contend that internet content is protected by Free Speech and that all comments online should be protected. On the other hand, libel can be proven in a similar manner as libel outside the realm of the internet. The balance comes between “protecting free speech and protecting against defamation.”” Can you sue people you don’t know? What about owners of forums/website who maintain anonymity? Turns out, you don’t need to know their names in order to sue.
“Libel lawsuits have been leveled against individuals, both known and anonymous; against the bloggers who let others post comments on their blogs.”
To serve a lawsuit, plaintiffs use the SLAPP, or “”strategic lawsuit against public participation.” The lawsuit is filed against a “John Doe” and John Doe’s identity is pursued by subpoenaing the Internet Service Provider. This always doesn’t work, although sometimes the identity of the anonymous libeler can be made public. Another option available to a judge is to force the shutdown of the website or forum.
Again, in my opinion, I do think there is enough evidence here, and elsewhere on this forum, that the owner, and moderators should take notice, and take corrective action.
Therefore, I am removing myself, and will be forwarding print screens of the posts here to my local newspaper and media. I am unsure which jurisdiction would have the criminal means to address the issues I raise, but hope the media could help with that question as well. In my opinion, an apology should be made to the individual, and the posts be immediately removed. And I hope no harm comes to the person in the posts in the meantime.
Post by: jackelope on July 31, 2014, 06:06:32 PM
Reading the above posts, I have some serious concerns. So much, that I have now deleted my account on Hunting Washington.
Interesting post....even more interesting handle.
I'm curious....how is it you were able to delete your account? It's not actually possible for you to do that.
Post by: 92xj on July 31, 2014, 06:10:47 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 31, 2014, 06:16:43 PM
Reading the above posts, I have some serious concerns. So much, that I have now deleted my account on Hunting Washington.Like the rest you will be back. :chuckle:
No one individual or business has been named in this thread. Therefore you are just stirrirng the pot, full of "el toro caca", blowing smoke, or pissing in the wind. Or however else you wanna put it.
Therefore, I am removing myself, and will be forwarding print screens of the posts here to my local newspaper and media. I am unsure which jurisdiction would have the criminal means to address the issues I raise, but hope the media could help with that question as well. In my opinion, an apology should be made to the individual, and the posts be immediately removed. And I hope no harm comes to the person in the posts in the meantime.
Post by: gasman on July 31, 2014, 06:18:30 PM
Reading the above posts, I have some serious concerns. So much, that I have now deleted my account on Hunting Washington.
Interesting post....even more interesting handle.
I'm curious....how is it you were able to delete your account? It's not actually possible for you to do that.
I wonder if this was the taxi :dunno:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Curly on July 31, 2014, 06:19:06 PM
Reading the above posts, I have some serious concerns. So much, that I have now deleted my account on Hunting Washington.Is the above post serious?
I do not know who the “female” taxidermist is mentioned in the post, but do want to share a couple of terms with the members, moderators, and owners of this group.
“Assault”: 1) v. the threat or attempt to strike another, whether successful or not, provided the target is aware of the danger. The assaulter must be reasonably capable of carrying through the attack. Assault is both a criminal wrong, for which one may be charged and tried, and civil wrong for which the target may sue for damages due to the assault, including for mental distress.
“Conspiracy”: n. when people work together by agreement to commit an illegal act. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful. To prove a conspiracy those involved must have agreed to the plan before all the actions have been taken, or it is just a series of independent illegal acts. A conspiracy can be criminal for planning and carrying out illegal activities, or give rise to a civil lawsuit for damages by someone injured by the conspiracy.
“Slander”: 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for general damages for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called special damages. Libel per se involves statements so vicious that malice is assumed and does not require a proof of intent to get an award of general damages. Libel against the reputation of a person who has died will allow surviving members of the family to bring an action for damages. Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction.
As I said, I do not know who the taxidermist you mention is, but being a female could generate a discrimination charge by the public, and by the post’s on this forum, I do have serious concerns that members are close to, if not have already crossed into one or more of the above. As I read the agreement that we all agreed to upon joining Hunting Washington, it appears that members have violated that agreement. Threatening to poison her with jerky strips is in my opinion is well over the line.
There may be some debate about this forum’s owner’s responsibilities, and the individual user’s responsibilities. I would like to also add the following: “Anonymity of the internet increases the willingness and boldness of an individual to criticize. Some supporters contend that internet content is protected by Free Speech and that all comments online should be protected. On the other hand, libel can be proven in a similar manner as libel outside the realm of the internet. The balance comes between “protecting free speech and protecting against defamation.”” Can you sue people you don’t know? What about owners of forums/website who maintain anonymity? Turns out, you don’t need to know their names in order to sue.
“Libel lawsuits have been leveled against individuals, both known and anonymous; against the bloggers who let others post comments on their blogs.”
To serve a lawsuit, plaintiffs use the SLAPP, or “”strategic lawsuit against public participation.” The lawsuit is filed against a “John Doe” and John Doe’s identity is pursued by subpoenaing the Internet Service Provider. This always doesn’t work, although sometimes the identity of the anonymous libeler can be made public. Another option available to a judge is to force the shutdown of the website or forum.
Again, in my opinion, I do think there is enough evidence here, and elsewhere on this forum, that the owner, and moderators should take notice, and take corrective action.
Therefore, I am removing myself, and will be forwarding print screens of the posts here to my local newspaper and media. I am unsure which jurisdiction would have the criminal means to address the issues I raise, but hope the media could help with that question as well. In my opinion, an apology should be made to the individual, and the posts be immediately removed. And I hope no harm comes to the person in the posts in the meantime.
I may have missed some posts if they were deleted by mods, or edited, but I didn't read anything in the thread that would fit the illegal acts you describe above.
The mention of the pepperoni was a joke. If you're new I guess I can see how that might seem.
Post by: jackelope on July 31, 2014, 06:22:46 PM
Reading the above posts, I have some serious concerns. So much, that I have now deleted my account on Hunting Washington.
I do not know who the “female” taxidermist is mentioned in the post, but do want to share a couple of terms with the members, moderators, and owners of this group.
“Assault”: 1) v. the threat or attempt to strike another, whether successful or not, provided the target is aware of the danger. The assaulter must be reasonably capable of carrying through the attack. Assault is both a criminal wrong, for which one may be charged and tried, and civil wrong for which the target may sue for damages due to the assault, including for mental distress.
“Conspiracy”: n. when people work together by agreement to commit an illegal act. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful. To prove a conspiracy those involved must have agreed to the plan before all the actions have been taken, or it is just a series of independent illegal acts. A conspiracy can be criminal for planning and carrying out illegal activities, or give rise to a civil lawsuit for damages by someone injured by the conspiracy.
“Slander”: 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for general damages for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called special damages. Libel per se involves statements so vicious that malice is assumed and does not require a proof of intent to get an award of general damages. Libel against the reputation of a person who has died will allow surviving members of the family to bring an action for damages. Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction.
As I said, I do not know who the taxidermist you mention is, but being a female could generate a discrimination charge by the public, and by the post’s on this forum, I do have serious concerns that members are close to, if not have already crossed into one or more of the above. As I read the agreement that we all agreed to upon joining Hunting Washington, it appears that members have violated that agreement. Threatening to poison her with jerky strips is in my opinion is well over the line. There may be some debate about this forum’s owner’s responsibilities, and the individual user’s responsibilities. I would like to also add the following: “Anonymity of the internet increases the willingness and boldness of an individual to criticize. Some supporters contend that internet content is protected by Free Speech and that all comments online should be protected. On the other hand, libel can be proven in a similar manner as libel outside the realm of the internet. The balance comes between “protecting free speech and protecting against defamation.”” Can you sue people you don’t know? What about owners of forums/website who maintain anonymity? Turns out, you don’t need to know their names in order to sue.
“Libel lawsuits have been leveled against individuals, both known and anonymous; against the bloggers who let others post comments on their blogs.”
To serve a lawsuit, plaintiffs use the SLAPP, or “”strategic lawsuit against public participation.” The lawsuit is filed against a “John Doe” and John Doe’s identity is pursued by subpoenaing the Internet Service Provider. This always doesn’t work, although sometimes the identity of the anonymous libeler can be made public. Another option available to a judge is to force the shutdown of the website or forum.
Again, in my opinion, I do think there is enough evidence here, and elsewhere on this forum, that the owner, and moderators should take notice, and take corrective action.
Therefore, I am removing myself, and will be forwarding print screens of the posts here to my local newspaper and media. I am unsure which jurisdiction would have the criminal means to address the issues I raise, but hope the media could help with that question as well. In my opinion, an apology should be made to the individual, and the posts be immediately removed. And I hope no harm comes to the person in the posts in the meantime.
Please clarify your accusation that threats were made to poison the taxidermist with pepperoni??
I can name a few guys who could verify there is nothing poisonous about Plat's pepperoni. Coach? RT? Karl? Chris? Is it really poisonous?
I see no slander here. Nobody has been named.
I see no conspiracy by your definition. Nothing illegal at all whatsoever has been done, even if names were named.....and they weren't.
Assault? Do tell...please.
Who would file the lawsuit that you seem to be threatening us with?
Post by: h20hunter on July 31, 2014, 06:28:29 PM
Post by: quadrafire on July 31, 2014, 06:29:06 PM
In case I'm included in the lawsuit I want to be informed
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 31, 2014, 06:29:47 PM
This is clearly said "taxi" a friend of the taxi or a troll. Otherwise it's a coward to start a new account and not use their existing account. :twocents:Reading the above posts, I have some serious concerns. So much, that I have now deleted my account on Hunting Washington.
I do not know who the “female” taxidermist is mentioned in the post, but do want to share a couple of terms with the members, moderators, and owners of this group.
“Assault”: 1) v. the threat or attempt to strike another, whether successful or not, provided the target is aware of the danger. The assaulter must be reasonably capable of carrying through the attack. Assault is both a criminal wrong, for which one may be charged and tried, and civil wrong for which the target may sue for damages due to the assault, including for mental distress.
“Conspiracy”: n. when people work together by agreement to commit an illegal act. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful. To prove a conspiracy those involved must have agreed to the plan before all the actions have been taken, or it is just a series of independent illegal acts. A conspiracy can be criminal for planning and carrying out illegal activities, or give rise to a civil lawsuit for damages by someone injured by the conspiracy.
“Slander”: 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for general damages for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called special damages. Libel per se involves statements so vicious that malice is assumed and does not require a proof of intent to get an award of general damages. Libel against the reputation of a person who has died will allow surviving members of the family to bring an action for damages. Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction.
As I said, I do not know who the taxidermist you mention is, but being a female could generate a discrimination charge by the public, and by the post’s on this forum, I do have serious concerns that members are close to, if not have already crossed into one or more of the above. As I read the agreement that we all agreed to upon joining Hunting Washington, it appears that members have violated that agreement. Threatening to poison her with jerky strips is in my opinion is well over the line. There may be some debate about this forum’s owner’s responsibilities, and the individual user’s responsibilities. I would like to also add the following: “Anonymity of the internet increases the willingness and boldness of an individual to criticize. Some supporters contend that internet content is protected by Free Speech and that all comments online should be protected. On the other hand, libel can be proven in a similar manner as libel outside the realm of the internet. The balance comes between “protecting free speech and protecting against defamation.”” Can you sue people you don’t know? What about owners of forums/website who maintain anonymity? Turns out, you don’t need to know their names in order to sue.
“Libel lawsuits have been leveled against individuals, both known and anonymous; against the bloggers who let others post comments on their blogs.”
To serve a lawsuit, plaintiffs use the SLAPP, or “”strategic lawsuit against public participation.” The lawsuit is filed against a “John Doe” and John Doe’s identity is pursued by subpoenaing the Internet Service Provider. This always doesn’t work, although sometimes the identity of the anonymous libeler can be made public. Another option available to a judge is to force the shutdown of the website or forum.
Again, in my opinion, I do think there is enough evidence here, and elsewhere on this forum, that the owner, and moderators should take notice, and take corrective action.
Therefore, I am removing myself, and will be forwarding print screens of the posts here to my local newspaper and media. I am unsure which jurisdiction would have the criminal means to address the issues I raise, but hope the media could help with that question as well. In my opinion, an apology should be made to the individual, and the posts be immediately removed. And I hope no harm comes to the person in the posts in the meantime.
Please clarify your accusation that threats were made to poison the taxidermist with pepperoni??
I can name a few guys who could verify there is nothing poisonous about Plat's pepperoni. Coach? RT? Karl? Chris? Is it really poisonous?
I see no slander here. Nobody has been named.
I see no conspiracy by your definition. Nothing illegal at all whatsoever has been done, even if names were named.....and they weren't.
Assault? Do tell...please.
Who would file the lawsuit that you seem to be threatening us with?
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 31, 2014, 06:38:25 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 31, 2014, 06:45:42 PM
This is clearly said "taxi" a friend of the taxi or a troll. Otherwise it's a coward to start a new account and not use their existing account. :twocents:Reading the above posts, I have some serious concerns. So much, that I have now deleted my account on Hunting Washington.
I do not know who the “female” taxidermist is mentioned in the post, but do want to share a couple of terms with the members, moderators, and owners of this group.
“Assault”: 1) v. the threat or attempt to strike another, whether successful or not, provided the target is aware of the danger. The assaulter must be reasonably capable of carrying through the attack. Assault is both a criminal wrong, for which one may be charged and tried, and civil wrong for which the target may sue for damages due to the assault, including for mental distress.
“Conspiracy”: n. when people work together by agreement to commit an illegal act. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful. To prove a conspiracy those involved must have agreed to the plan before all the actions have been taken, or it is just a series of independent illegal acts. A conspiracy can be criminal for planning and carrying out illegal activities, or give rise to a civil lawsuit for damages by someone injured by the conspiracy.
“Slander”: 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for general damages for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called special damages. Libel per se involves statements so vicious that malice is assumed and does not require a proof of intent to get an award of general damages. Libel against the reputation of a person who has died will allow surviving members of the family to bring an action for damages. Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction.
As I said, I do not know who the taxidermist you mention is, but being a female could generate a discrimination charge by the public, and by the post’s on this forum, I do have serious concerns that members are close to, if not have already crossed into one or more of the above. As I read the agreement that we all agreed to upon joining Hunting Washington, it appears that members have violated that agreement. Threatening to poison her with jerky strips is in my opinion is well over the line. There may be some debate about this forum’s owner’s responsibilities, and the individual user’s responsibilities. I would like to also add the following: “Anonymity of the internet increases the willingness and boldness of an individual to criticize. Some supporters contend that internet content is protected by Free Speech and that all comments online should be protected. On the other hand, libel can be proven in a similar manner as libel outside the realm of the internet. The balance comes between “protecting free speech and protecting against defamation.”” Can you sue people you don’t know? What about owners of forums/website who maintain anonymity? Turns out, you don’t need to know their names in order to sue.
“Libel lawsuits have been leveled against individuals, both known and anonymous; against the bloggers who let others post comments on their blogs.”
To serve a lawsuit, plaintiffs use the SLAPP, or “”strategic lawsuit against public participation.” The lawsuit is filed against a “John Doe” and John Doe’s identity is pursued by subpoenaing the Internet Service Provider. This always doesn’t work, although sometimes the identity of the anonymous libeler can be made public. Another option available to a judge is to force the shutdown of the website or forum.
Again, in my opinion, I do think there is enough evidence here, and elsewhere on this forum, that the owner, and moderators should take notice, and take corrective action.
Therefore, I am removing myself, and will be forwarding print screens of the posts here to my local newspaper and media. I am unsure which jurisdiction would have the criminal means to address the issues I raise, but hope the media could help with that question as well. In my opinion, an apology should be made to the individual, and the posts be immediately removed. And I hope no harm comes to the person in the posts in the meantime.
Please clarify your accusation that threats were made to poison the taxidermist with pepperoni??
I can name a few guys who could verify there is nothing poisonous about Plat's pepperoni. Coach? RT? Karl? Chris? Is it really poisonous?
I see no slander here. Nobody has been named.
I see no conspiracy by your definition. Nothing illegal at all whatsoever has been done, even if names were named.....and they weren't.
Assault? Do tell...please.
Who would file the lawsuit that you seem to be threatening us with?
It is unclear to me which taxi you are referring to.
Post by: jackelope on July 31, 2014, 06:46:36 PM
This is clearly said "taxi" a friend of the taxi or a troll. Otherwise it's a coward to start a new account and not use their existing account. :twocents:Reading the above posts, I have some serious concerns. So much, that I have now deleted my account on Hunting Washington.
I do not know who the “female” taxidermist is mentioned in the post, but do want to share a couple of terms with the members, moderators, and owners of this group.
“Assault”: 1) v. the threat or attempt to strike another, whether successful or not, provided the target is aware of the danger. The assaulter must be reasonably capable of carrying through the attack. Assault is both a criminal wrong, for which one may be charged and tried, and civil wrong for which the target may sue for damages due to the assault, including for mental distress.
“Conspiracy”: n. when people work together by agreement to commit an illegal act. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful. To prove a conspiracy those involved must have agreed to the plan before all the actions have been taken, or it is just a series of independent illegal acts. A conspiracy can be criminal for planning and carrying out illegal activities, or give rise to a civil lawsuit for damages by someone injured by the conspiracy.
“Slander”: 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for general damages for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called special damages. Libel per se involves statements so vicious that malice is assumed and does not require a proof of intent to get an award of general damages. Libel against the reputation of a person who has died will allow surviving members of the family to bring an action for damages. Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction.
As I said, I do not know who the taxidermist you mention is, but being a female could generate a discrimination charge by the public, and by the post’s on this forum, I do have serious concerns that members are close to, if not have already crossed into one or more of the above. As I read the agreement that we all agreed to upon joining Hunting Washington, it appears that members have violated that agreement. Threatening to poison her with jerky strips is in my opinion is well over the line. There may be some debate about this forum’s owner’s responsibilities, and the individual user’s responsibilities. I would like to also add the following: “Anonymity of the internet increases the willingness and boldness of an individual to criticize. Some supporters contend that internet content is protected by Free Speech and that all comments online should be protected. On the other hand, libel can be proven in a similar manner as libel outside the realm of the internet. The balance comes between “protecting free speech and protecting against defamation.”” Can you sue people you don’t know? What about owners of forums/website who maintain anonymity? Turns out, you don’t need to know their names in order to sue.
“Libel lawsuits have been leveled against individuals, both known and anonymous; against the bloggers who let others post comments on their blogs.”
To serve a lawsuit, plaintiffs use the SLAPP, or “”strategic lawsuit against public participation.” The lawsuit is filed against a “John Doe” and John Doe’s identity is pursued by subpoenaing the Internet Service Provider. This always doesn’t work, although sometimes the identity of the anonymous libeler can be made public. Another option available to a judge is to force the shutdown of the website or forum.
Again, in my opinion, I do think there is enough evidence here, and elsewhere on this forum, that the owner, and moderators should take notice, and take corrective action.
Therefore, I am removing myself, and will be forwarding print screens of the posts here to my local newspaper and media. I am unsure which jurisdiction would have the criminal means to address the issues I raise, but hope the media could help with that question as well. In my opinion, an apology should be made to the individual, and the posts be immediately removed. And I hope no harm comes to the person in the posts in the meantime.
Please clarify your accusation that threats were made to poison the taxidermist with pepperoni??
I can name a few guys who could verify there is nothing poisonous about Plat's pepperoni. Coach? RT? Karl? Chris? Is it really poisonous?
I see no slander here. Nobody has been named.
I see no conspiracy by your definition. Nothing illegal at all whatsoever has been done, even if names were named.....and they weren't.
Assault? Do tell...please.
Who would file the lawsuit that you seem to be threatening us with?
It is unclear to me which taxi you are referring to.
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 31, 2014, 06:46:53 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 31, 2014, 06:46:55 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 31, 2014, 06:49:04 PM
I wasn't referring to any taxi in particular as one was never mentioned in this thread. I was just referring to the fact that it could be said unnamed taxi that only the op knows who it is.This is clearly said "taxi" a friend of the taxi or a troll. Otherwise it's a coward to start a new account and not use their existing account. :twocents:Reading the above posts, I have some serious concerns. So much, that I have now deleted my account on Hunting Washington.
I do not know who the “female” taxidermist is mentioned in the post, but do want to share a couple of terms with the members, moderators, and owners of this group.
“Assault”: 1) v. the threat or attempt to strike another, whether successful or not, provided the target is aware of the danger. The assaulter must be reasonably capable of carrying through the attack. Assault is both a criminal wrong, for which one may be charged and tried, and civil wrong for which the target may sue for damages due to the assault, including for mental distress.
“Conspiracy”: n. when people work together by agreement to commit an illegal act. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful. To prove a conspiracy those involved must have agreed to the plan before all the actions have been taken, or it is just a series of independent illegal acts. A conspiracy can be criminal for planning and carrying out illegal activities, or give rise to a civil lawsuit for damages by someone injured by the conspiracy.
“Slander”: 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for general damages for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called special damages. Libel per se involves statements so vicious that malice is assumed and does not require a proof of intent to get an award of general damages. Libel against the reputation of a person who has died will allow surviving members of the family to bring an action for damages. Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction.
As I said, I do not know who the taxidermist you mention is, but being a female could generate a discrimination charge by the public, and by the post’s on this forum, I do have serious concerns that members are close to, if not have already crossed into one or more of the above. As I read the agreement that we all agreed to upon joining Hunting Washington, it appears that members have violated that agreement. Threatening to poison her with jerky strips is in my opinion is well over the line. There may be some debate about this forum’s owner’s responsibilities, and the individual user’s responsibilities. I would like to also add the following: “Anonymity of the internet increases the willingness and boldness of an individual to criticize. Some supporters contend that internet content is protected by Free Speech and that all comments online should be protected. On the other hand, libel can be proven in a similar manner as libel outside the realm of the internet. The balance comes between “protecting free speech and protecting against defamation.”” Can you sue people you don’t know? What about owners of forums/website who maintain anonymity? Turns out, you don’t need to know their names in order to sue.
“Libel lawsuits have been leveled against individuals, both known and anonymous; against the bloggers who let others post comments on their blogs.”
To serve a lawsuit, plaintiffs use the SLAPP, or “”strategic lawsuit against public participation.” The lawsuit is filed against a “John Doe” and John Doe’s identity is pursued by subpoenaing the Internet Service Provider. This always doesn’t work, although sometimes the identity of the anonymous libeler can be made public. Another option available to a judge is to force the shutdown of the website or forum.
Again, in my opinion, I do think there is enough evidence here, and elsewhere on this forum, that the owner, and moderators should take notice, and take corrective action.
Therefore, I am removing myself, and will be forwarding print screens of the posts here to my local newspaper and media. I am unsure which jurisdiction would have the criminal means to address the issues I raise, but hope the media could help with that question as well. In my opinion, an apology should be made to the individual, and the posts be immediately removed. And I hope no harm comes to the person in the posts in the meantime.
Please clarify your accusation that threats were made to poison the taxidermist with pepperoni??
I can name a few guys who could verify there is nothing poisonous about Plat's pepperoni. Coach? RT? Karl? Chris? Is it really poisonous?
I see no slander here. Nobody has been named.
I see no conspiracy by your definition. Nothing illegal at all whatsoever has been done, even if names were named.....and they weren't.
Assault? Do tell...please.
Who would file the lawsuit that you seem to be threatening us with?
It is unclear to me which taxi you are referring to.
Post by: jackelope on July 31, 2014, 06:50:17 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 31, 2014, 06:56:39 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on July 31, 2014, 06:59:41 PM
Here's what you need to do. Send her a care package of Plat's pepperoni sticks. That should keep her "busy" for 2-3 days and in the mean time you can plan a covert ops to retrieve your goods. :chuckle:
Is this the quote that is quoted in the other thread as a threat? What a friggin' joke. Anyone that has been on here for more than a year would know that is a running joke. How is that a threat, unless they shat themselves to death?
Post by: grundy53 on July 31, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
sent from my typewriter
Post by: gasman on July 31, 2014, 07:27:26 PM
I dont recall a "female" being mentioned, until the :stirthepot: posted
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on July 31, 2014, 07:43:32 PM
Post by: mkcj on July 31, 2014, 07:55:03 PM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on July 31, 2014, 08:17:54 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 31, 2014, 08:22:15 PM
Post by: bearpaw on July 31, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
Quote
Can You Sue an Internet Service Provider?
One reason you might want to sue the host or internet service provider (ISP) of the website that posted a defamatory statement is the "deep pockets" argument.
ISPs or website hosts might have more money -- and therefore more ability to pay a judgment -- than some blogger who posted a defamatory statement about you. But, for better or for worse, a federal law called the Communications Decency Act has specifically exempted website hosts and ISPs from most defamation claims.
Here's a defamation case where 13M was awarded: http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Texas-Couple-Wins-Big-Internet-Defamation-Case-148586955.html (http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Texas-Couple-Wins-Big-Internet-Defamation-Case-148586955.html)
It's actually pretty common for social sites to be threatened with lawsuits. Therefore I have read up on the issues extensively. Here's what I have come to understand:
1. As a rule internet service providers (H-W) cannot be held liable for what others choose to publish (post on the forum)
2. In a lawsuit, the party claiming damages must prove to the court that a defamatory/slanderous comment is untrue.
3. The party claiming damages will also need to prove damages to the court.
Comment:
It is very common for members to post reviews of businesses/services/products on online blogs/forums, etc, in fact many internet sites are focused on reviews and many businesses welcome reviews of their products as it helps customers make informed buying decisions. Sometimes reviews are positive and sometimes negative, most often after numerous comments have been posted a public service has been performed in that people reading the reviews and comments can form an opinion regarding the business/service involved and know if they want to patronize said business/service. An opinion I have heard is that a business/service receiving a negative review is best served to respond and offer their side of the story and publicly make any bad deal right. Either way, in the end the public usually gets a better picture of customer satisfaction and service regarding the business/product/service involved in a review.
H-W allows members to express themselves freely as long as certain levels of decency are maintained, there have been a few questionable comments in this topic and a warning has been posted by admin to keep the comments factual. To my knowledge the OP has not made any untrue comments, I can't see where the OP has even cited a business/name. This topic will remain open for comment. Please keep the comments factual.
Thanks,
Dale
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 31, 2014, 08:34:52 PM
Post by: Antlershed on July 31, 2014, 08:50:07 PM
There may be some debate about this forum’s owner’s responsibilities, and the individual user’s responsibilities. I would like to also add the following: “Anonymity of the internet increases the willingness and boldness of an individual to criticize. Some supporters contend that internet content is protected by Free Speech and that all comments online should be protected. On the other hand, libel can be proven in a similar manner as libel outside the realm of the internet. The balance comes between “protecting free speech and protecting against defamation.”” Can you sue people you don’t know? What about owners of forums/website who maintain anonymity? Turns out, you don’t need to know their names in order to sue.I think this is my favorite part :chuckle:
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on July 31, 2014, 09:11:12 PM
Post by: luvmystang67 on July 31, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
Post by: elk247 on July 31, 2014, 11:18:33 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 01, 2014, 09:09:11 AM
I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
Post by: woodman on August 01, 2014, 09:30:47 AM
I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
The BBB will mean nothing at all here. All it will accomplish is if someone calls them they will say that there has been a complaint filed with them. Obviously there have been many public complaints made already and you can see what that has accomplished. A letter from an atty can make a huge difference in this situation.
Post by: Broken Arrow on August 01, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
Then after that I would sue for pain and suffering ( my friends all laughed at me for 3 years....sure you have a Rolex)
Some of you guys must be the most patient tree stand hunters in the world...lol.
I don't think i could keep being so professional. Like my dad used to say "hope in one hand and crap in the other"....see what fills up faster.
I would take some kind of legal action, even if it cost you at this point. Enough is enough!
Post by: Cascade on August 01, 2014, 10:05:41 AM
Post by: h20hunter on August 01, 2014, 10:10:35 AM
Post by: bearpaw on August 01, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
The BBB will mean nothing at all here. All it will accomplish is if someone calls them they will say that there has been a complaint filed with them. Obviously there have been many public complaints made already and you can see what that has accomplished. A letter from an atty can make a huge difference in this situation.
I disagree, if a complaint is filed with the BBB they will contact the business. If the business does not respond and does not make an acceptable settlement that becomes public record. It is definitely in the best interest of a business to respond to the BBB and settle complaints. Filing a complaint with the BBB costs the consumer nothing.
Post by: Stein on August 01, 2014, 10:17:49 AM
If it were me:
http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/resources/?fa=newsinfo_jury.scc (http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/resources/?fa=newsinfo_jury.scc)
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 01, 2014, 10:33:36 AM
I actually agree with Woodman on this. The BBB is nothing more than a coercion scam and a joke. They have absolutely no authority to do anything.I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
The BBB will mean nothing at all here. All it will accomplish is if someone calls them they will say that there has been a complaint filed with them. Obviously there have been many public complaints made already and you can see what that has accomplished. A letter from an atty can make a huge difference in this situation.
I disagree, if a complaint is filed with the BBB they will contact the business. If the business does not respond and does not make an acceptable settlement that becomes public record. It is definitely in the best interest of a business to respond to the BBB and settle complaints. Filing a complaint with the BBB costs the consumer nothing.
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 01, 2014, 10:37:04 AM
Post by: woodman on August 01, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
I actually agree with Woodman on this. The BBB is nothing more than a coercion scam and a joke. They have absolutely no authority to do anything.I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
The BBB will mean nothing at all here. All it will accomplish is if someone calls them they will say that there has been a complaint filed with them. Obviously there have been many public complaints made already and you can see what that has accomplished. A letter from an atty can make a huge difference in this situation.
I disagree, if a complaint is filed with the BBB they will contact the business. If the business does not respond and does not make an acceptable settlement that becomes public record. It is definitely in the best interest of a business to respond to the BBB and settle complaints. Filing a complaint with the BBB costs the consumer nothing.
turkeyfeather, you have a good grasp on this. I have been a member of the BBB years ago and they did nothing for me except collect money. I am not complaining about them, just keeping perspective on what they really do.
Bearpaw, I am not trying to argue, but the BBB will accomplish less than what this site is doing right now.
Post by: Stein on August 01, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
If they have a taxidermist license with the state, you could file a complaint with WDFW. If they don't, they are not in compliance with the law and you could report that. Both of those are free and should only take a few minutes.
Post by: Becky on August 01, 2014, 12:09:49 PM
I actually agree with Woodman on this. The BBB is nothing more than a coercion scam and a joke. They have absolutely no authority to do anything.I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
The BBB will mean nothing at all here. All it will accomplish is if someone calls them they will say that there has been a complaint filed with them. Obviously there have been many public complaints made already and you can see what that has accomplished. A letter from an atty can make a huge difference in this situation.
I disagree, if a complaint is filed with the BBB they will contact the business. If the business does not respond and does not make an acceptable settlement that becomes public record. It is definitely in the best interest of a business to respond to the BBB and settle complaints. Filing a complaint with the BBB costs the consumer nothing.
turkeyfeather, you have a good grasp on this. I have been a member of the BBB years ago and they did nothing for me except collect money. I am not complaining about them, just keeping perspective on what they really do.
Bearpaw, I am not trying to argue, but the BBB will accomplish less than what this site is doing right now.
I think it could help OTHERS though who might look at the BBB or even sites like Angie's list for reviews. Not everyone goes to hunt-WA. People unfortunately put a lot of regard into the BBB and look at the ratings of services.. and I know for a fact there's certain taxis that have bad reviews on this forum yet on the BBB they have an A rating. More people should review their honest experience with these types of places :twocents: might not help current cases but can help future issues.
Post by: Gringo31 on August 01, 2014, 01:09:25 PM
You said you went from hearing nothing to now having some recent communication. I'd call that some progress. My advice would be to continue to communicate....or at least keep trying. I know of a taxi that has a deer from a relative that this sounds a bit like. Just can't get a hold of him. Problem is he's quite elderly.
But, the fact is business is business and that really isn't a factor.....or it doesn't have to be for the customer. I can't imagine any company now allowing a customers property to be picked up.
Keep doing what you are doing and I commend you for taking the high road. :tup:
Post by: woodman on August 01, 2014, 05:22:22 PM
I actually agree with Woodman on this. The BBB is nothing more than a coercion scam and a joke. They have absolutely no authority to do anything.I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
The BBB will mean nothing at all here. All it will accomplish is if someone calls them they will say that there has been a complaint filed with them. Obviously there have been many public complaints made already and you can see what that has accomplished. A letter from an atty can make a huge difference in this situation.
I disagree, if a complaint is filed with the BBB they will contact the business. If the business does not respond and does not make an acceptable settlement that becomes public record. It is definitely in the best interest of a business to respond to the BBB and settle complaints. Filing a complaint with the BBB costs the consumer nothing.
turkeyfeather, you have a good grasp on this. I have been a member of the BBB years ago and they did nothing for me except collect money. I am not complaining about them, just keeping perspective on what they really do.
Bearpaw, I am not trying to argue, but the BBB will accomplish less than what this site is doing right now.
I think it could help OTHERS though who might look at the BBB or even sites like Angie's list for reviews. Not everyone goes to hunt-WA. People unfortunately put a lot of regard into the BBB and look at the ratings of services.. and I know for a fact there's certain taxis that have bad reviews on this forum yet on the BBB they have an A rating. More people should review their honest experience with these types of places :twocents: might not help current cases but can help future issues.
Smossy's Girl, just to be clear, my comments were in regards to this thread about a guy getting his stuff back. The BBB will be of zero help here. That is why I said that this site will be of more help.
Post by: Becky on August 01, 2014, 05:48:23 PM
Smossy's Girl, just to be clear, my comments were in regards to this thread about a guy getting his stuff back. The BBB will be of zero help here. That is why I said that this site will be of more help.
Yea I understood, I was merely suggesting that he and others who have negative experiences should start posting up reviews on other sites.
Post by: Dansk on August 01, 2014, 06:26:15 PM
I had the same problem with the taxi being hard to contact, and non responsive, and i was tempted to take the hard line. Instead, my wife said to be nice, so i did.
To her credit, the taxi asked what she could do to make it right. She turned it into a skull that looked like it was in the desert for 30 years.... different, kinda unique, and she did it for free, so it did turn out fine.
Post by: bearpaw on August 01, 2014, 07:00:46 PM
I actually agree with Woodman on this. The BBB is nothing more than a coercion scam and a joke. They have absolutely no authority to do anything.I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
The BBB will mean nothing at all here. All it will accomplish is if someone calls them they will say that there has been a complaint filed with them. Obviously there have been many public complaints made already and you can see what that has accomplished. A letter from an atty can make a huge difference in this situation.
I disagree, if a complaint is filed with the BBB they will contact the business. If the business does not respond and does not make an acceptable settlement that becomes public record. It is definitely in the best interest of a business to respond to the BBB and settle complaints. Filing a complaint with the BBB costs the consumer nothing.
turkeyfeather, you have a good grasp on this. I have been a member of the BBB years ago and they did nothing for me except collect money. I am not complaining about them, just keeping perspective on what they really do.
Bearpaw, I am not trying to argue, but the BBB will accomplish less than what this site is doing right now.
I think it could help OTHERS though who might look at the BBB or even sites like Angie's list for reviews. Not everyone goes to hunt-WA. People unfortunately put a lot of regard into the BBB and look at the ratings of services.. and I know for a fact there's certain taxis that have bad reviews on this forum yet on the BBB they have an A rating. More people should review their honest experience with these types of places :twocents: might not help current cases but can help future issues.
Smossy's Girl, just to be clear, my comments were in regards to this thread about a guy getting his stuff back. The BBB will be of zero help here. That is why I said that this site will be of more help.
I again must disagree, the BBB will contact the business and request a resolution. If the business fails to respond it will be posted publicly and that does have consequences because a lot of people check with the BBB. This does get results, maybe not always, but it often does. You cannot say that it will not work, you don't know that, for some reason you seem to simply dislike the BBB. This costs the consumer nothing and adds additional pressure for the business to perform.
Post by: woodman on August 01, 2014, 07:05:34 PM
I actually agree with Woodman on this. The BBB is nothing more than a coercion scam and a joke. They have absolutely no authority to do anything.I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
The BBB will mean nothing at all here. All it will accomplish is if someone calls them they will say that there has been a complaint filed with them. Obviously there have been many public complaints made already and you can see what that has accomplished. A letter from an atty can make a huge difference in this situation.
I disagree, if a complaint is filed with the BBB they will contact the business. If the business does not respond and does not make an acceptable settlement that becomes public record. It is definitely in the best interest of a business to respond to the BBB and settle complaints. Filing a complaint with the BBB costs the consumer nothing.
turkeyfeather, you have a good grasp on this. I have been a member of the BBB years ago and they did nothing for me except collect money. I am not complaining about them, just keeping perspective on what they really do.
Bearpaw, I am not trying to argue, but the BBB will accomplish less than what this site is doing right now.
I think it could help OTHERS though who might look at the BBB or even sites like Angie's list for reviews. Not everyone goes to hunt-WA. People unfortunately put a lot of regard into the BBB and look at the ratings of services.. and I know for a fact there's certain taxis that have bad reviews on this forum yet on the BBB they have an A rating. More people should review their honest experience with these types of places :twocents: might not help current cases but can help future issues.
Smossy's Girl, just to be clear, my comments were in regards to this thread about a guy getting his stuff back. The BBB will be of zero help here. That is why I said that this site will be of more help.
I again must disagree, the BBB will contact the business and request a resolution. If the business fails to respond it will be posted publicly and that does have consequences because a lot of people check with the BBB. This does get results, maybe not always, but it often does. You cannot say that it will not work, you don't know that, for some reason you seem to simply dislike the BBB. This costs the consumer nothing and adds additional pressure for the business to perform.
Unless things have changed, the only business the BBB will contact is a member to have a chance at a rebuttal for there report filed. I do not dislike the BBB, but I ran businesses for many years and understand how it works. You are not listing anything that I do not already know. I understand that it costs the customer nothing, but the BBB in not going to go charging in and get this guys stuff back or anything even remotely close to it.
Post by: bearpaw on August 01, 2014, 08:21:26 PM
Please let me repeat exactly what I said:
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My advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.
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I disagree, if a complaint is filed with the BBB they will contact the business. If the business does not respond and does not make an acceptable settlement that becomes public record. It is definitely in the best interest of a business to respond to the BBB and settle complaints. Filing a complaint with the BBB costs the consumer nothing.
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I again must disagree, the BBB will contact the business and request a resolution. If the business fails to respond it will be posted publicly and that does have consequences because a lot of people check with the BBB. This does get results, maybe not always, but it often does. You cannot say that it will not work, you don't know that, for some reason you seem to simply dislike the BBB. This costs the consumer nothing and adds additional pressure for the business to perform.
It appears that more than 50% of complaints are resolved!
BBB enquiry/complaint statistics: http://www.bbb.org/storage/0/Shared%20Documents/complaintstats/USCOMPLAINTS.pdf (http://www.bbb.org/storage/0/Shared%20Documents/complaintstats/USCOMPLAINTS.pdf)
I'm not saying anyone must do this or that it will get results 100% of the time, I was simply offering suggestions trying to help the OP. :twocents:
Post by: woodman on August 01, 2014, 08:43:30 PM
Just to clarify, I never said the BBB would go charging in and get the stuff. Of course that isn't going to happen.
Please let me repeat exactly what I said:QuoteMy advice: Continue to be persistent at requesting a date and time to pick up your stuff. As is often said "The squeaky wheel gets the grease!" I would send messages on email, facebook, taxidermy.net, and any other medium the taxidermist may use to get their attention. Just keep all your comments factual, be respectful, and try not to antagonize the situation. Make it clear you simply want to get your stuff as soon as possible. If you do not get a response in a couple days I would suggest sending another message stating that you are contacting the BBB the next business day, if still no response then contact the BBB, they are easy to find on google, they will help to make things right.QuoteI disagree, if a complaint is filed with the BBB they will contact the business. If the business does not respond and does not make an acceptable settlement that becomes public record. It is definitely in the best interest of a business to respond to the BBB and settle complaints. Filing a complaint with the BBB costs the consumer nothing.QuoteI again must disagree, the BBB will contact the business and request a resolution. If the business fails to respond it will be posted publicly and that does have consequences because a lot of people check with the BBB. This does get results, maybe not always, but it often does. You cannot say that it will not work, you don't know that, for some reason you seem to simply dislike the BBB. This costs the consumer nothing and adds additional pressure for the business to perform.
It appears that more than 50% of complaints are resolved!
BBB enquiry/complaint statistics: http://www.bbb.org/storage/0/Shared%20Documents/complaintstats/USCOMPLAINTS.pdf (http://www.bbb.org/storage/0/Shared%20Documents/complaintstats/USCOMPLAINTS.pdf)
I'm not saying anyone must do this or that it will get results 100% of the time, I was simply offering suggestions trying to help the OP. :twocents:
bearpaw,
I appreciate you taking your time on this. Statistics are always a funny thing and can be manipulated to read how someone wants them to by how they are put together, and what is put in or left out.
Different people do business differently. When you write that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, it reminds me of many closed door meetings that I have been in where the saying was the squeaky wheel gets the axe. Lots of times that meant that the complainer could be put further back in line if he was irritating enough. I think that the op here is concerned about that.
I have been in the commercial construction trade for decades with huge contracts and projects. Never once have I heard in any disagreement (arguments) that if things weren't worked out that the BBB would be called. It was always lawyers. I am just used to hard core business and probably have been hardened over the years.
I know that your suggestions are well intended. I hope that this all works out and I truly would be interested to see if the BBB will help to resolve this.
Post by: bearpaw on August 01, 2014, 08:50:37 PM
Good luck to the OP in getting his stuff back. :tup:
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 02, 2014, 06:26:28 AM
Post by: h20hunter on August 02, 2014, 07:27:09 AM
Don't make me clean this thread up!!!!!!!!!!
Sheesh......mods and site owners......aren't they just the like totally the worst!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol4:
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 02, 2014, 08:17:06 AM
Hey now........ :jacked: :nono:............lets keep this thread on topic and factual!I know huh!!! :chuckle:
Don't make me clean this thread up!!!!!!!!!!
Sheesh......mods and site owners......aren't they just the like totally the worst!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol4:
Post by: woodman on August 02, 2014, 08:32:01 AM
I'm not quite sure what has happened to my original post, but everything that I'm seeing is not helping me to get my stuff back. I just want to see my things again. :'(
I intentionally have not stated the name of the taxi and have no intention of threatening anyone or any business, I was mostly looking for support and constructive ideas from the hunt-wa community on how to best go about retrieving my things from a shop that I had no luck getting ahold of. While I have made limited contact with the taxi since the beginning of this post, I still have not set a time or date to get my things and would still like legal, kind, and constructive ideas for how to get my animals returned to me.
I'm not sure what the rest of this noise is, but it belongs in a different post... not in a thread about retrieving things from a taxidermist.
For what its worth, it would be much more helpful if members made suggestions rather than simply poking fun at the situation, which solves nothing and has the potential to upset others.
Hey now........ :jacked: :nono:............lets keep this thread on topic and factual!
Don't make me clean this thread up!!!!!!!!!!
Sheesh......mods and site owners......aren't they just the like totally the worst!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol4:
OK directly to the point on this topic.
The way that I see it is that you have a few options,
1. Do nothing and hope for the best. Costs nothing other than patience.
I think others can attest to how doing nothing has helped them.
2. Use options that have been listed like social media, the BBB and try to shame the taxi. Might work over a
period of time. Costs nothing other than a little effort and patience.
3. Letter from an atty that shows it will cost the taxi time, money and lots of worry. This normally gets a
very fast response and lets you know where you stand. When atty get involved typically it only takes a
letter and you get to the front of the line and taken care of. It also puts bite into your words. The letter
can also address that the quality better be there along with the time concern and eliminates all of the bs.
The letter might cost a hundred to a hundred and fifty dollars, but should resolve things quickly. Instead
of waiting years like others have. It might upset the taxi, but would you really use this taxi in the future?
I hope this answers the topic for the op properly and is ok.
Post by: 4fletch on August 02, 2014, 11:57:13 AM
Post by: luvmystang67 on August 05, 2014, 07:13:34 AM
The taxi was pleasant and everything worked out well.
I will likely delete this entire thread after everyone who contributed sees the resolution, since it clearly ruffled some feathers along the way.
I'm now hopeful that the last remaining cape will not be an issue in a few months when its back.
Thanks again everyone.
-Stang
Post by: h20hunter on August 05, 2014, 07:16:17 AM
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Post by: D-Rock425 on August 05, 2014, 07:51:31 AM
Post by: luvmystang67 on August 05, 2014, 08:08:07 AM
You can't delete this tread stang you dont have that authority.
I believe you're wrong sir D-Rock. I think you can delete threads you created.
Post by: h20hunter on August 05, 2014, 08:17:42 AM
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