Post by: fireweed on August 25, 2014, 07:31:13 AM
Here's the link.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2015-2017/comments.php (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2015-2017/comments.php)
Post by: Hunter Dug on August 25, 2014, 07:37:31 AM
Post by: Tbar on August 25, 2014, 08:02:52 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on August 25, 2014, 08:06:30 AM
Post by: Big6bull on August 25, 2014, 08:31:26 AM
I would rather not see either go general. There is too few "quality" or "bull" hunts as it is on the West side. Many of the units have already turned to an oil tag and these going general would make long shot tags turn to slim to no chance of drawing. I would rather see the entire state go permit only(severely limiting access permit sales) than more units go general. Winston could be lights out awesome (IMO) if the elk were given a break from the relentless pressure they get during hunting season.
I agree. And If they made those two units general season I would probly hunt out of state. Only two units I put in for....
Post by: sirmissalot on August 25, 2014, 08:34:39 AM
Post by: bowhunterty on August 25, 2014, 08:57:01 AM
Post by: bowhunterty on August 25, 2014, 08:58:12 AM
Post by: bradslam on August 25, 2014, 08:59:17 AM
Post by: sneakyjake on August 25, 2014, 09:03:13 AM
Post by: bobcat on August 25, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
I don't like the idea of giving Weyerhaeuser all control over wildlife management in SW Washington.
Let's make Ryderwood, Winston, Fall River, Lincoln, Minot Peak, and Coweeman permit only as well.
Post by: bullcanyon on August 25, 2014, 09:29:35 AM
Post by: Meat Truck on August 25, 2014, 11:21:41 AM
Post by: TMortensen on August 25, 2014, 05:25:22 PM
Post by: huntingfool7 on August 25, 2014, 05:33:30 PM
We need more permit only units, not less, like others have said. (In my opinion):yeah: I commented - status quo but wouldn't be opposed to making all fee access areas permit only. Let the Big W, Hancock and Rayonier wrap their special access permits around a WDFW tag drawing.
I don't like the idea of giving Weyerhaeuser all control over wildlife management in SW Washington.
Let's make Ryderwood, Winston, Fall River, Lincoln, Minot Peak, and Coweeman permit only as well.
Post by: TONTO on August 25, 2014, 05:50:57 PM
Post by: fireweed on August 29, 2014, 08:45:39 AM
Whatever Weyerhaeuser wants, do the opposite.
Post by: kentrek on August 29, 2014, 09:32:35 AM
Isn't that what we want is less hunter density :dunno:
With logging in some of the high country I could see the Margaret make a come back...
Yeah Ima go leave at as it is an let's try an focus on rebuild the quality of elk...we need spike hunts or rag horn hunts tho...
Post by: tonymiller7 on August 29, 2014, 11:12:33 AM
Post by: buglebrush on August 30, 2014, 02:42:31 PM
They need to make more units special permit not less. I would be all for a statewide draw for everything but predators.That sounds great! Then we could just hunt a mature bull once every ten years or so! I cannot believe I never thought of that! :bdid: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Post by: Eli346 on August 30, 2014, 04:41:33 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on August 30, 2014, 04:49:15 PM
Post by: gotcha on August 30, 2014, 05:49:54 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 30, 2014, 06:05:55 PM
Agnew might do the same with his.
Post by: Jingles on August 30, 2014, 06:09:06 PM
Post by: Big6bull on August 30, 2014, 06:58:08 PM
Make the entire STATE permit only for all BIG GAME Species and see how fast everything goes completely to he77. Quality and quantity of game.
Curious what your thoughts are behind this. The way I see it, is for the most part draw only units (some exceptions of course) provide not only quality but more quantity too. And much less hunting pressure. I would love to see more of these opertunities for sure. Entire state? Maybe for elk imo... I also think a lot of the permits units we have could be devided. Maybe spread the draw odds out a little. Food for thought :dunno:
Post by: chucker on August 30, 2014, 07:09:48 PM
Post by: BUTTER on August 31, 2014, 01:15:54 AM
Post by: Jingles on August 31, 2014, 06:25:10 AM
Post by: Whitpirate on August 31, 2014, 07:15:27 AM
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Post by: bowhuntersd on August 31, 2014, 08:24:01 AM
I'm in agree-ance with making more GMU's draw areas. I voted to have it stay the same. I feel if it goes general then that would give Agnew a free pass to start farming out high $$ hunts and Weyco will lease out the rest to the highest bidder.
Post by: sneakyjake on August 31, 2014, 08:40:52 AM
Post by: swanny on August 31, 2014, 01:53:14 PM
With all the westside land locked up, and the east side being spike only, I've come to the conclusion that I will most likely only hunt elk if drawn.
Post by: dewandgin on August 31, 2014, 08:05:35 PM
Keep it permit only and make more permit only units as well.
With all the westside land locked up, and the east side being spike only, I've come to the conclusion that I will most likely only hunt elk if drawn.
Yep
From the Wetside. like the darkside only Wetter!
Post by: sirmissalot on September 02, 2014, 07:20:33 AM
They need to make more units special permit not less. I would be all for a statewide draw for everything but predators.That sounds great! Then we could just hunt a mature bull once every ten years or so! I cannot believe I never thought of that! :bdid: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
If you honestly think our elk numbers are so low, that just to draw a bull tag if the state were to go to a statewide draw would take 10 years, then we have a serious problem.
Post by: westsidehntr on September 02, 2014, 07:41:19 AM
They need to make more units special permit not less. I would be all for a statewide draw for everything but predators.That sounds great! Then we could just hunt a mature bull once every ten years or so! I cannot believe I never thought of that! :bdid: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
If you honestly think our elk numbers are so low, that just to draw a bull tag if the state were to go to a statewide draw would take 10 years, then we have a serious problem.
I cant speak for bugle brush, but IMO it could go that way not because of elk numbers but because of management issues. I just couldn't support taking away the right to hunt every year freely like we have for decades. A draw only state would discourage people from starting to hunt and make a lot of people stop hunting. Not good for the sport IMHO.
Post by: bobcat on September 02, 2014, 08:17:08 AM
Kind of like when seasons and limits were first implemented, and hunting licenses and tags required, it was bad for the sport? Lots of people probably quit hunting at that time. :dunno:
Post by: westsidehntr on September 02, 2014, 08:54:13 AM
"Not good for the sport." ???
Kind of like when seasons and limits were first implemented, and hunting licenses and tags required, it was bad for the sport? Lots of people probably quit hunting at that time. :dunno:
Making the whole state draw only is a lot more limiting than that. Do you not think a lot of casual hunters are going to say ahh its just not worth the time anymore? Same for some new hunters? Not only that, but its kind of like the other thread about baiting. Some hunters wanting to take away other peoples rights because of their own views. I think we all have a right to hunt the public land every year. Im not saying some special tags for high quality areas is bad. I feel margaret should stay draw only. But for the whole state to go draw only to me is taking away from alot of people who just want to meat hunt, enjoy shooting any legal buck, or even just enjoy camping during hunting season and hiking around a little. These people have the same right to hunt as the hardcore trophy hunting people who want a statewide hunting utopia serving their own special needs. Sorry for the rambling rant.
Post by: sirmissalot on September 02, 2014, 09:12:49 AM
Post by: swanny on September 02, 2014, 09:53:45 AM
Post by: Hunterman on September 02, 2014, 10:29:03 AM
If it went draw only, that doesn't mean you can't still hit the field. Go out with your buddies that get drawn, take pictures of the creatures you love, or scout your butt off for when you turn comes. Besides, isn't it mostly about being outside and in the woods or wilderness? Having the chance to harvest an animal and fill the freezer is just a bonus.
The main reason people hunt is to put meet in the freezer that is why we buy a hunting license. It was just to just spend time in the woods camping we can do this with out a hunting license.
Instead of a draw state why not a "Play to Play" state. It makes just about as much sense as a "Draw State"
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: buglebrush on September 02, 2014, 06:23:21 PM
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Post by: judojudd on September 09, 2014, 11:31:05 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on September 09, 2014, 11:41:31 AM
Post by: Meat Truck on September 09, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
I'm hiking in to the backcountry and I am going work my butt off. To me it'll be worth it for the unique experience and there not being hunters everywhere. Now, hopefully I can knock down a nice elk while I'm at it.
Post by: sirmissalot on September 09, 2014, 12:58:59 PM
Post by: Meat Truck on September 09, 2014, 01:16:18 PM
I'm hoping a good sized one steps in front of me first. I'm not sure how much strength I've got to pass up a smallish one. If it stands there long enough, it might need to learn a lesson. Killing an elk with a bow is hard to do, and I'll be pumped if I can score a nice 5 point.
I've killed a few elk, and a couple with a bow, and it's quite a an experience. I can't wait to see what this is all about.
Post by: judojudd on September 09, 2014, 02:28:46 PM
Post by: CNELK on September 09, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
Post by: elk247 on September 09, 2014, 03:26:56 PM
And..........then they will have to permit surrounding units and you will get to hunt every five years or so in the same areas. If you are for this, then we don't have much in common. I can't imagine the Winston and coweeman being the ones that get slapped with the permit. With wey now controlling the access into the units, they will control the herds and the cash flow. No need for a permit there. The units that will get hit will be the USNF ones. Now to hunt south of pierce county if you don't want to hunt the Yelm herd, you will either need to draw or pay wey/outfitter. Worst case thoughts for me.To expand on this... how many years, $$$ and points would you guys be willing to throw at a hoof rot hunt? Its not like we are talking about a flourishing, healthy elk herd in the sw. I know there are other threads about the rot and I don't mean to thread jack but if you don't consider this than your not looking at the entire picture.