Post by: actionshooter on December 11, 2008, 05:29:07 PM
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
Post by: huntnphool on December 11, 2008, 05:47:33 PM
Post by: sisu on December 11, 2008, 10:01:47 PM
What a crock, do they really really think the killers are going to give a rats ass, they are not the ones going in to purchase it anyway, they will get it black market the same way they get their guns, what a joke. :bash:I agree. Sad part is Washington State is one of the states supporting this bill.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 11, 2008, 11:03:10 PM
Post by: WonkyWapiti on December 16, 2008, 06:09:08 PM
Post by: need2huntmor on December 16, 2008, 09:26:08 PM
(I should clarify. Not all Democrats are Anti-Gun, but as a general rule, they tend to be.)
Post by: NWTFhunter on January 02, 2009, 12:18:18 PM
Here is Hewitt's reply.
"Cameron, Thank you for contacting me; I appreciate your thoughts. I am a gun owner, NRA member, sportsman, and I have always been a strong 2nd amendment supporter during my tenure in the legislature.Fortunately, this bill never even received a public hearing last session, so I did not have the chance to vote against it. Occasionally, bills are introduced to stimulate discussion on a topic, and while issues of gun control usually draw a lot of attention, they have a difficult time getting through the bicameral legislative system. If I can be of any further service, please call. Best, Mike(360) 786-7630"
So it appears that this bill is dead.
But stay on top of it as it will come up again.
Post by: actionshooter on January 02, 2009, 05:32:50 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 02, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Post by: Al Bundy on January 04, 2009, 11:59:18 PM
It is a private company out of Seattle (http://www.ammocoding.com/index.php (http://www.ammocoding.com/index.php)) that is trying to push this through. They couldn't get the ammo manufacturers behind the idea, so they tried getting legislation to do it instead.
For one, the ammo makers would have to keep a database of each numbered box and where it went. They make billions of rounds a year. Not gonna happen. Then retailers would have to keep a database of who bought what box. Not going to happen. Finally the state would have to keep another database at a huge cost. Not going to happen with all the budget cuts going on.
Of course the guys that came up with this idea will charge a licensing fee for EACH BULLET with this stamped on it, so they would get incredibly rich overnight.
If you want to give the company a piece of your mind, there is a Contact Us button on the page I linked to above.
Post by: NWTFhunter on January 05, 2009, 07:22:36 AM
They are going to love the email I just sent.. :chuckle:
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 05, 2009, 07:33:46 AM
Post by: FrankDown on January 08, 2009, 12:32:06 PM
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on January 08, 2009, 12:35:05 PM
Post by: Ray on January 08, 2009, 12:47:58 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,16120.0.html
Post by: FrankDown on January 08, 2009, 12:50:43 PM
Post by: FrankDown on January 08, 2009, 12:55:11 PM
Post by: rasbo on January 08, 2009, 01:10:08 PM
I emailed them about a friend that got killed with a hammer. I suggested they start a hemmer registration company. I had another friend killed with a 40 oz Old English bottle. Maybe the same can be done for glass bottles.how bout those semi auto screw drivers
Post by: 12Gauge on January 09, 2009, 12:13:54 PM
Those Anti's are attacking us from all sides.
Lead ban issues
gun sale taxes are predicted to go up
lead poisoning in animals killed by a bullet
ammo accountability
reinstatement of Bill Cliton's 1994 gun ban (in the works)
Veterans Disarmament Act (HR2640)
Greg Nickles trying to ban guns in Seattle owned property.
Maybe we should go hunting (research for info) for Anti's and expose them for what they really are, (stupid people)
Post by: Ray on January 09, 2009, 02:01:05 PM
Them son of bit**es voted themselves a raise and want to talk about accountability! >:(
Post by: bennybooboo on January 09, 2009, 02:27:14 PM
I printed and read the bill to be read in Olympia and it's totally outrageous that our House of Reps would even consider the idea of limiting access to ammo because they can't further limit access to firearms.
Don't let this bill pass because of the "passer-by" syndrome. If you don't call your Legislators who will? Tell your friends. Tell your family. Call the local gun shop. Call the local sportsman's club. Do whatever it takes to kill this bill dead.
Go to: http://www.leg.wa.gov and contact your legislators. There's even a handy-dandy thingy to help you find out who your legislators are and how to go about contacting them.
If this bill passes there won't be a reason to try to ban firearms. We won't have any ammo for them!
EH
Post by: FrankDown on January 09, 2009, 02:50:39 PM
Heres a link to go straight to part of it. You can click a button to send to all in your district.
Post by: Ray on January 09, 2009, 02:51:35 PM
Post by: NWTFhunter on January 09, 2009, 03:05:35 PM
Cameron, Thank you for contacting me; I appreciate your thoughts. I am a gun owner, NRA member, sportsman, and I have always been a strong 2nd amendment supporter during my tenure in the legislature.Fortunately, this bill never even received a public hearing last session, so I did not have the chance to vote against it. Occasionally, bills are introduced to stimulate discussion on a topic, and while issues of gun control usually draw a lot of attention, they have a difficult time getting through the bicameral legislative system. If I can be of any further service, please call. Best, Mike(360) 786-7630
I am not saying that ist not good to contact your reps, in fact I reccomend it ! But the bill not on the books at the moment.
Post by: NWTFhunter on January 09, 2009, 03:08:59 PM
Its been a while and havent heard a word from them.
Post by: sisu on January 09, 2009, 03:21:26 PM
This will never happen.Thanks for posting this information. I hope they have a parent company that is involved in some other type of business(es) that we could boycott!
It is a private company out of Seattle (http://www.ammocoding.com/index.php (http://www.ammocoding.com/index.php)) that is trying to push this through. They couldn't get the ammo manufacturers behind the idea, so they tried getting legislation to do it instead.
For one, the ammo makers would have to keep a database of each numbered box and where it went. They make billions of rounds a year. Not gonna happen. Then retailers would have to keep a database of who bought what box. Not going to happen. Finally the state would have to keep another database at a huge cost. Not going to happen with all the budget cuts going on.
Of course the guys that came up with this idea will charge a licensing fee for EACH BULLET with this stamped on it, so they would get incredibly rich overnight.
If you want to give the company a piece of your mind, there is a Contact Us button on the page I linked to above.
Post by: FrankDown on January 09, 2009, 05:45:49 PM
Their mailbox is full... Maybe they already abandoned ship. I doubt it though. THey probably applied for apatent and then tried to srtart gaining momentum on a serialized bullet to get rich quick.
Post by: NWTFhunter on January 09, 2009, 06:57:23 PM
Post by: FrankDown on January 12, 2009, 05:05:23 PM
"This was a bill introduced in the House during the previous legislative session, which ended last March (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=3359&year=2007 ).
This bill didn't get a hearing last session. I don't know whether it will even be reintroduced this year or make it to the Senate for a vote.
Darlene"
This is the email I got today.
Post by: FrankDown on January 12, 2009, 05:06:37 PM
"This was a bill introduced in the House during the previous legislative session, which ended last March (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=3359&year=2007 ).
This bill didn't get a hearing last session. I don't know whether it will even be reintroduced this year or make it to the Senate for a vote.
Darlene"
This is the email I got today.
Doesnt mean they wont try to get it passed again. It kind of sucks that laws that are repeatedly shot down are repeatedly introduced.
Post by: dbllunger on January 13, 2009, 12:00:03 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 18, 2009, 04:31:32 PM
It hasn't worked for drugs what makes them think it would work for bullets, drugs are illegal and yet we have a huge problem with them getting into the country.
If it does go through I would try to get hooked up with some people out of the country to manufacture them, you would make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Post by: NWTFhunter on January 18, 2009, 04:46:29 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 18, 2009, 04:53:56 PM
Ya Phool, we could go down to TJ open a plant hire cheap labor and smuggle them in just like the drugs that get brought accross the border ! Good idea, im in.
I will leave the smuggling to the experts, there will be millions to be made just in manufacturing plus it wont be illegal. I'm sure the bullet manus. have already looked into this. Just like junkies, the people that want it will find ways to get it.
Post by: NWTFhunter on January 18, 2009, 04:56:57 PM
Post by: Clipboard guy on January 28, 2009, 04:29:10 PM
It has already started...
Ammunition Accountability Legislation
Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!
The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana ) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers.
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.
Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!
If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!
This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.
Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!!
To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
>:( IMO the government can't keep track of sexual predators, illegal aliens or poachers.... Why do they think that this will be anything but a big cluster-*$#@!!!!
Post by: saylean on January 28, 2009, 04:34:56 PM
Post by: boneaddict on January 28, 2009, 04:41:02 PM
Post by: shoot-em-dead on January 28, 2009, 06:36:59 PM
Post by: FrankDown on January 28, 2009, 06:43:22 PM
However I dont see any harm in emailing your oficials to let them know that you are pro gun, or anti ammunition accountability law anyway.
Post by: 12Gauge on January 28, 2009, 06:54:32 PM
All my guns were stolen Jan. 20th...I dont know what to tell them... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Yes you do, they were all stolen. Just like mine