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Title: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Smossy on October 04, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
Ok I'm just not willing to drop the $300-700 on carburetor work and maintenance from a dealer just to get our ATVs running. We have 2 that are basically brand new and have been sitting for close to 3-4 years with the same gas/oil fluids in them since then, neither vehicle will fire up at this point.
One is a 2005 Suzuki Eager 400 and the other is a Suzuki Ozark 250
The smaller of the 2 / the Ozark.. ran for a week and I ran it pretty hard just trying to see what it was capable of, eventually it started to backfire and bog down then just all together not start.
The Eiger will fire up for a split second if you spray started fluid into where the air filter is but just will not last.

My question to you all is first, anyone have any ideas what the main problem may be? I'm thinking bunked up crabs from years old gas...
Second, is there anyone who knows enough about these things to be willing to take on the task of helping me get them running. I'm willing to pay and work out deals. Preferably someone semi local.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: WA hunter14 on October 04, 2014, 05:13:10 PM
try all new gas in both plus some fuel injector cleaner and new spark plugs and i bet you will be fine
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Smossy on October 04, 2014, 05:16:18 PM
try all new gas in both plus some fuel injector cleaner and new spark plugs and i bet you will be fine
I'll give it a try, do I just siphon out the old gas?
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: WA hunter14 on October 04, 2014, 05:20:14 PM
probably the best way to go yea
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: cooltimber on October 04, 2014, 05:20:52 PM
Hi if I lived closer I'd do 4 free,but it's simple,just pay attention .remove carbs,take the bottom bowl off and u will c the main jet,it has a hole in it..next take out the emulsion tube.this will b clogged,take a wire and clean out the hole's,this is behind the main jet which u just took out.your idler jets or primary jets need to be taken out and cleaned,count out the turns.when you replace them count those turns,then back out one full turn,no more. if carb is very dirty,boil in water and lemon juice for couple hr's..I had to do this in camp with a buddies quad that forgot to,run carb out of gas before he stored it...pm me will b ok
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: WA hunter14 on October 04, 2014, 05:27:40 PM
i would agree that the one that ran then died might have a gunked up carb but i have never had gas last that long. try looking at some videos on youtube of cleaning small engine carb. if you have to or decide to clean the carbs get some carb cleaner from a place like napa
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Smossy on October 04, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
i would agree that the one that ran then died might have a gunked up carb but i have never had gas last that long. try looking at some videos on youtube of cleaning small engine carb. if you have to or decide to clean the carbs get some carb cleaner from a place like napa
It was only about an hour a day for like 4 days, may not be as hard as I made it sound. Some guys do that Ina day.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: WA hunter14 on October 04, 2014, 05:38:55 PM
did the one that backfired and quite blow out a bunch of smoke?
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Smossy on October 04, 2014, 05:59:08 PM
did the one that backfired and quite blow out a bunch of smoke?
not that I noticed, I was riding it full throttle quite a bit then I started to get sputtering, then a few backfires, the. It bogged down and died. No smoke (again that I noticed) no smell, no obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: WA hunter14 on October 04, 2014, 06:07:44 PM
you would have noticed this amount of smoke  :chuckle: 

If you want to get the thing up and running now then you should just put new gas in them and make sure plugs arent fouled then(and the gas is turned on).

If you want to give them a more long term service or are getting ready to use them alot like for hunting season then i would get new spugs, new fuel filters, new gas, change oil, take carbs off and clean them really well.

off the top of my head that is what i would do once you get into it you may realize you donnt need to do some of them or that you need to do more.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Rick on October 04, 2014, 07:34:27 PM
Carbs aren't voodoo. I'll bet a 30 second search on Youtube will have you well on your way to fixing them yourself.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Weehunt66 on October 04, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
Replace your fuel filters.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on October 15, 2014, 01:33:34 PM

The one that starts with a shot of fluid is a piece of cake. Remove and clean carb. Put back together with new fuel.

The other, since it ran, then died could be a multi tude of things. Id start by replacing plug and cleaning carb.

How many porcinins could I get in pay to get them going?
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Smossy on October 15, 2014, 08:19:13 PM

The one that starts with a shot of fluid is a piece of cake. Remove and clean carb. Put back together with new fuel.

The other, since it ran, then died could be a multi tude of things. Id start by replacing plug and cleaning carb.

How many porcinins could I get in pay to get them going?
Lol id have to talk the the boss
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: bone collector 12 on October 15, 2014, 08:22:26 PM
Spark plugs and new fuel also try running some SEA FOAM additive threw it
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: WoodlandShooter on October 16, 2014, 10:36:58 AM
As stated, drain the fuel and start over with new.

Also, with the new Ethanol fiel, it plays hell with the jets. If they wont idle well, most likely the pilot jet and possibly the entire pilot circuit is gunked up. Replace the pilot jet if it is corroded.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Becky on October 16, 2014, 11:00:34 AM
I'm thinking bunked up crabs from years old gas...

what? hahahah I'm dying  :chuckle: :chuckle:.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Buckmark on October 16, 2014, 11:03:56 AM
Sell me the bigger one and then you will have funds to fix the other... :)
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Becky on October 16, 2014, 11:11:40 AM
Sell me the bigger one and then you will have funds to fix the other... :)

Neverrrrr. He hasn't even gotten a chance to ride 'err yet, he thinks he's having fun on my 250 but I think he's gonna love the 400.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: Stein on October 16, 2014, 11:19:05 AM
I used Youtube and an ultrasonic cleaner I got on clearance from Midway USA along with a dose of Seafoam.  I'm not a mechanic, but I can watch videos and turn a wrench.  They are pretty easy to clean and rebuild and the kits are $20 or so for the two I worked on.
Title: Re: Need some carb work, anyone help?
Post by: gr8whthunter on October 16, 2014, 11:31:17 AM
if no body has said this yet you have water in your fuel sounds like, i would drain the gas in the tanks and remove the carbs and take the bowl off the bottom it should only be 2 or 3 phillips screws holding the bowl on, not hard to spot the bowl its on the direct bottom of the carb really simple
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