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Title: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: dwils233 on October 20, 2014, 06:03:33 PM
We pulled into a gravel pit this weekend around 11 o'clock looking for some pheasants . It was tucked just off the road and we wrapped behind some trees and a 15 foot high gravel pile. As soon as we get behind the gravel pile we saw 4 gut piles all fresh from the morning within about a ten foot area of each other.

The first thing I thought was poaching just because I would never haul a whole animal out before gutting, much less 4 of them. Also it seems highly unlikely that a single group would all tag out the same time frame with legal bucks. Finally, just the location and the way it felt back there was just..off somehow. I know its a day late but should I call it in? Its not much to go on, but I'd feel better if WDFW at least had it on the radar in case something happens again in the area, since I mostly go for bird though (not big game) am I just being paranoid or misreading the situation?

Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: buckfvr on October 20, 2014, 06:24:24 PM
Theres gut piles everywhere......Id mind my own business, but thats just me............
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: bowhunterty on October 20, 2014, 06:36:28 PM
Depends on the unit. Eastside has some spots open for does.
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: dwils233 on October 20, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
Its a 3 pt minimum GMU.

I would mind my own business but me and the guy I hunt with put in a lot of time down there knocking on doors and going by the book to get on private land. If another hunter or group of hunters is abusing that land, it is problematic for me and for anyone else trying to hunt down there.

 :twocents:
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: buckfvr on October 20, 2014, 07:08:02 PM
Thats a big " IF "...............you're looking for trouble......if what you are seeing is a crime in its self, call.....but dont manufacture a crime on an if..............
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: Thehowler on October 20, 2014, 07:14:22 PM
Never hurts to report  If it looks suspicious to you.
that sounds suspicious. Talk to the game warden about it.
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: runningboard on October 20, 2014, 07:27:10 PM
the county road crews sometimes put whole roadkills in the same spot in pits, maybe the guys who salvage roadkills (legally) just used the same pit after a series of car/deer accidents?
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: _TONY_ on October 20, 2014, 08:10:04 PM
the county road crews sometimes put whole roadkills in the same spot in pits, maybe the guys who salvage roadkills (legally) just used the same pit after a series of car/deer accidents?

 :yeah:

Also, some of the private land that I hunt,the owners ask that I don't leave gut piles... Could be the same situation...
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: grundy53 on October 20, 2014, 08:14:37 PM
Its a 3 pt minimum GMU.

I would mind my own business but me and the guy I hunt with put in a lot of time down there knocking on doors and going by the book to get on private land. If another hunter or group of hunters is abusing that land, it is problematic for me and for anyone else trying to hunt down there.

 :twocents:

A lot of the the 3 point minimum units have doe permits and second deer tags(antlerless). The Methow has a LOT right now.
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: EDT on October 20, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
From the sound of your post with the "knocking on doors" and "private land", it makes me think that is farm land.  There are groups of people who draw doe tags, shoot them, drive up to them, put them all in the back of the truck, then unload and gut them all at once.  Just cause it was a 3 point minimum does not mean that there is not another legal hunt going on right now.  Personally, I wouldn't worry about it, other people knock on doors and get permission too.
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: Stein on October 20, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
Also, some of the private land that I hunt,the owners ask that I don't leave gut piles... Could be the same situation...



I think this happens more than one would think.  Several guys get permission to hunt private land and owner doesn't want wolf/coyote/bobcat bait on his land.  Guys load up and drive to public where then can gut and leave them out of sight.

Not sure if it is legal or not, but I would think a poacher would be more likely to haul home then stand over a 4 bagger of guts.
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 20, 2014, 09:27:26 PM
As a kid back east I can remember leaving 8 to 10 gut piles in the same spot  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: Hawgdawg on October 20, 2014, 09:28:17 PM
 :yeah:
Theres gut piles everywhere......Id mind my own business, but thats just me............
:yeah:
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: Hawgdawg on October 20, 2014, 09:29:31 PM
Stick to your birds. That's just good hunting.
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: huntnnw on October 20, 2014, 09:32:20 PM
Lotta suburb area hunting going on and I know of people who do not gut deer in peoples yards and leave it..they haul them out to an area to gut them
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: Euro mount on October 20, 2014, 11:22:16 PM
If you don't mind me asking what GMU is this in?
Title: Re: 4 gut piles- possible poaching?
Post by: csaaphill on October 20, 2014, 11:47:02 PM
From the sound of your post with the "knocking on doors" and "private land", it makes me think that is farm land.  There are groups of people who draw doe tags, shoot them, drive up to them, put them all in the back of the truck, then unload and gut them all at once.  Just cause it was a 3 point minimum does not mean that there is not another legal hunt going on right now.  Personally, I wouldn't worry about it, other people knock on doors and get permission too.
:yeah:
also youth incentiv hunts go on around here where kids can shoot does.
too might be the landowner himself they can shoot indiscriminatly if tons of deer are ruining their crops.
Seen something similar several years ago on this land I used to hunt for does with a permit or bow during archery season.
But these were just a pile of dead deer like 7-8 or more stunk.
but farmers can shoot them pretty much what they want.
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