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Other Hunting => Upland Birds => Topic started by: andrewfreeman15 on October 26, 2014, 02:08:43 PM

Title: Pheasant hunting without a dog?
Post by: andrewfreeman15 on October 26, 2014, 02:08:43 PM: Is there anyway to pheasant hunt without a dog and be at least mildly successful? I'm in college and there is no way I can have a hunting dog with me, she's back home.
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Post by: MC37493 on October 26, 2014, 02:14:20 PM: You could do it on a release site with success if you want to march out with everyone, don't think you would have much luck with wild birds they will even fool a good dog sometimes.
Title: Re: Pheasant hunting without a dog?
Post by: Bmcox86 on October 26, 2014, 06:39:55 PM: If you do try a release site, don't pick someone with a dog and follow behind them 20 yards and match them move for move. I've had that happen to me two times so far this year it's aggravating.

If you march out with everyone find a good spot to stand and get ready when everyone starts shooting, the big groups usually miss a lot and watch where they land.
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Post by: lokidog on October 26, 2014, 07:35:05 PM: Quote from: Bmcox86 on October 26, 2014, 06:39:55 PM
If you do try a release site, don't pick someone with a dog and follow behind them 20 yards and match them move for move. I've had that happen to me two times so far this year it's aggravating.

If you march out with everyone find a good spot to stand and get ready when everyone starts shooting, the big groups usually miss a lot and watch where they land.

Or, get out there early and introduce yourself to some of the folks who have a dog and may be hunting alone. See if you can tag along. Offer to take the backseat on points or flushes, etc. I bet you would have some success.
Title: Re: Pheasant hunting without a dog?
Post by: GoBeavs85 on October 26, 2014, 08:13:10 PM: Quote from: lokidog on October 26, 2014, 07:35:05 PM
Quote from: Bmcox86 on October 26, 2014, 06:39:55 PM
If you do try a release site, don't pick someone with a dog and follow behind them 20 yards and match them move for move. I've had that happen to me two times so far this year it's aggravating.

If you march out with everyone find a good spot to stand and get ready when everyone starts shooting, the big groups usually miss a lot and watch where they land.

Or, get out there early and introduce yourself to some of the folks who have a dog and may be hunting alone. See if you can tag along. Offer to take the backseat on points or flushes, etc. I bet you would have some success.

Another strategy might be to go knock farmers doors and scout out some great spots. Play the "young poor college kid" card and see if that softens some hearts and opens some doors. Probably won't have much success bagging birds at first but you can probably see some flushed out of range or birds out in fields etc.

Once you have a good spot to hunt I bet you could get a list of dog owners lining up to go hunt with you. This way you bring something very valuable to the equation. This depends on where you live and how much time you have.
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Post by: jackson7 on October 28, 2014, 02:19:20 PM: Yes it can be done! We use to all the time back when in college. Once we had 6 birds we would have a feast where all got a bird. Just plan on walking a lot. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Pheasant hunting without a dog?
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on October 28, 2014, 02:43:38 PM: I do it all the time. A lot of walking. I usually zig zag back and forth and have good luck kicking up birds. Mostly hunt the draws in the wheat fields on the eastern part of the state. I wanted to get a bird dog but am allergic.
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Post by: Labs07 on October 30, 2014, 08:27:43 AM: Borrow some neighbor kids and promise them free lunch. Get them into the brush and have them "bird dog" for you. My dad and grandpa did this to me and my brother all the time when we were kids and did not have a bird dog.
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Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 30, 2014, 08:32:46 AM: Hunt right after several inches of snow fall. Follow the tracks with your eyes, like a dog follows the scent with his nose. FWIW, chukars and forest grouse are the two best birds to hunt w/o a dog.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2014, 08:34:26 AM: Some great suggestions on here. I've gone out just to walk the fields on a release site and haven't had great luck. Even if you're lucky enough to kick one up, you still have to find it after it falls. Tough hunting but a nice walk.
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Post by: CP on October 30, 2014, 09:04:49 AM: I’ve hunted many years without a dog it can be done successfully. Here are some techniques that have worked for me:

Post-up and let other hunters flush birds and sometimes they will fly your way.

Walking:
Look for pheasants on the ground as you move. Roosters like to stick their heads up and get at look at what’s coming their way. Being brightly colored they are easy to spot. Look for their heads. Once spotted they will either run, flush or sit tight, move toward them, quickly. They can outrun you but eventually they will stop and hide or flush. Once you are near them walk slowly and stop frequently. Most flushes will come when you stop. It messes with their mind when you stop near them. Use the same technique when you don’t see the bird first. Walk, stop, walk, stop etc.

You will walk past many birds. A smart bird will circle behind you and flush out of range. They do that to dogs as well so don’t let it bother you.

When a bird flushes there is a good chance that there are more birds that didn’t flush. Be ready.

Once you shoot a bird make sure it is dead. Shoot it again if it is winged or not dropping like a wet towel. A winged bird is very difficult to find without a dog. Also do not take your eyes off the spot where a bird falls. Move to it quickly and ignore all distractions (like other flushes). Do not be tempted to shoot a double.

Just get out and do it. You will learn as you go.
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Post by: Don Fischer on October 30, 2014, 05:29:51 PM: Why in the world would you even think of bird hunting without a dog? That is uncivilized! lol Truthfully, if I didn't have a dog, I would not hunt birds! maybe you have a friend with a dog you could go with.
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Post by: goosegetter79 on October 31, 2014, 05:58:59 PM: Also when walking stop every 30-40 yards for a few seconds it will make birds get nervous and flush. Good luck!!!!!
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Post by: MP123 on November 02, 2014, 10:22:25 AM: Finding a bird and shooting it is just the first step. Then you have to recover it and that can be very hard without a dog since birds blend in so well. It can be done and by all means give it a try but don't get your hopes too high. It can still be pretty challenging even with a good dog.
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Post by: GoBeavs85 on November 02, 2014, 12:07:26 PM: Lost two wounded birds yesterday and I have a dog. So frustrating. We just went home after loosing the second one. We were in cover so thick it made recovery apparently too difficult.
Title: Re: Pheasant hunting without a dog?
Post by: BiggLuke on November 04, 2014, 05:30:32 PM: Its easy... use your senses.

Listen for birds or suspisious movement in cover near you.
Walk slow through thick stuff... take a few steps, and wait, repeat.
Walk.... LOTS. Cover as much ground as you can.
Think like a bird... i.e. If you were a bird, where would you be? High noon... find shade... etc.
Spot and stalk sounds silly for birds... but it work. Glass a field edge from a few hundred yards away and sneak up to the birds you see.
And don't injure birds. You have to shoot to kill. If you injure a bird, without a dog... you might as well not have fired at all.
Don't get greedy when you hunt without a dog. I.e. if 5 birds bust up, keep yer eye on closest one, kill it and follow the bird to the ground. Never take your eyes off of it.
Often the hardest part of hunting without a dog, is finding the bird.
Title: Re: Pheasant hunting without a dog?
Post by: KFhunter on November 04, 2014, 05:37:00 PM: or you could just go walk around the release site and ground sluice wounded birds.