Post by: Rob on November 02, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
Post by: kukusya on November 02, 2014, 11:11:33 AM
Post by: HunterStrait on November 02, 2014, 11:13:54 AM
Spike
wait, its legal to shoot a spike bull with eye guards?!
Post by: Rob on November 02, 2014, 11:18:05 AM
Post by: kukusya on November 02, 2014, 11:19:01 AM
Yes if they less that 1 inch long.
Post by: Rob on November 02, 2014, 11:19:16 AM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 02, 2014, 11:37:43 AM
For Elk....
Yes, copied from the reg book, page 45:
Definitions:
3 Point Minimum: A 3 Pt Min elk means that
a legal elk in these GMUs must have at least 3 antler points on one side, with at least 2 antler points above the ear Eye guards are antler points when they are at least one inch long A 1x3 and a 2x3 are legal elk in a 3 Pt Min unit Antler restrictions apply to all hunters during any open season
Antler Points: To qualify as a point, an antler point must be at least one-inch in length, measured on the longest side
Any Bull Elk Seasons: Open only to the taking of elk with visible antlers (bull calves are illegal)
Any Elk: Any elk may be taken Referred to as "Either Sex" in the past
Branch: A branch is defined as any projection off the main antler beam that is at least one inch long, measured on the longest side, and longer than it is wide
Spike Bull Restrictions: Elk taken in these game management units (GMUs) must have at least one antler with no branches originating more than four (4) inches above where the antler attaches to the skull An animal with a spike on one side (1x2) is legal in spike only units An animal with more than one antler point more than four inches above where the antler attaches to the skull on both sides (2x2) is illegal
True Spike Bull Restrictions: Bull elk taken in these units (GMUs 251, 328-335) must have both antlers with no branching originating more than four inches above where the antlers attach to the skull Under the true spike restriction, taking an elk that has two points on one side or antler points within one inch of the definitions regarding length of point, or point of origination, is an infraction All other types of violations of the true spike restriction are subject to current penalties and assessments
Visible Antler: A horn-like growth projecting above the hairline
Post by: Rob on November 02, 2014, 11:43:24 AM
Wondering what year, they started putting the spike only regulation into effect for Elk in Washington...
Post by: Hunterman on November 02, 2014, 11:44:16 AM
It has been a few years now for spike only. Just be careful what kind of spike area your hunting in.
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: Pinetar on November 02, 2014, 12:04:15 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on November 02, 2014, 12:04:28 PM
Sorry, still not getting my question across. I understand the regulations...
Wondering what year, they started putting the spike only regulation into effect for Elk in Washington...
I think it was around 1994 in central washington....
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 02, 2014, 12:18:23 PM
Yes if they less that 1 inch long.
It appeared as if he was questioning this as well,
For Elk....
Sorry if my reply ruffled any feathers or put some panties into a bunch, as I said, it looked like he had an additional question...
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 02, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
Post by: Rob on November 02, 2014, 12:24:20 PM
Not ruffled, just trying to make sure my question was clear... The "for elk" comment was in reference to a set of photos that seemed to look more like deer than elk so I was clarifying what I was looking for.
Written word is not always the best medium.
Post by: Mike450r on November 02, 2014, 02:36:46 PM
Spike
wait, its legal to shoot a spike bull with eye guards?!
My understanding for spike only is if it doesn't have a branch that originates above the ears it can have all sorts of stuff going on in the eyeguard area and still be legal. True spike area would be different but I have seen examples that are legal that I don't call a spike. Ok, just read the regs and it looks like originating 4 inches above the skull. which could be a few points an smaller bull.
As far as when it went spike only in a lot of E. Wa I am thinking the early 90's.
Post by: Chukarhead on November 02, 2014, 05:24:23 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 02, 2014, 05:28:36 PM
Reading this thread was like walking through a canyon full of retarded echos.
A spike is when the elk has antlers that are small.
:chuckle: make sense?
Post by: whacker1 on November 02, 2014, 05:39:28 PM
Reading this thread was like walking through a canyon full of retarded echos.
i will be using that one in the future.....love it
Post by: Buckmark on November 02, 2014, 06:26:38 PM
In 1994, the harvest strategy was changed to spike-only bull during general season for the Yakima and Colockum herds
The state experimented with a spike only season for the southwest units but changed it after one year to the 3 point reg
Post by: phishisgroovin on November 02, 2014, 08:13:43 PM
Seriously.............they should change it back to something that actually exists.
Wednesday, the game warden that stopped to check my tag and license said he only seen ONE true spike bull this season and it was down on a ranch where it was taken.
Post by: coachcw on November 04, 2014, 02:19:15 PM
Post by: Whitpirate on November 04, 2014, 02:21:34 PM
Post by: runamuk on November 04, 2014, 02:26:05 PM
There were 4 true spikes in the wind farm Sat. They ran 60mph when you got to 1000 yardsonly doing 60 :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 04, 2014, 02:26:36 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 04, 2014, 02:27:03 PM
Post by: tgomez on November 04, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 04, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
Gotta be wayyyyyyyy longer than 2009. I shot a cow elk in the Nile area in yakima when I drew a cow tag in 2000 ,and it was spikes only for bulls then. 1994 sounds about right. WHY WOULD THEY WANT US TO SHOOT YOUNG BULLS ANYWAYS? They never get a chance to grow big. It's a dumb regulation, someone had their head way up their ass on that one.
Ahem, he said "True Spike" good sir...
The 2009 season was the first year that "true spike" was differentiated in Washington.
Post by: 6x6in6 on November 04, 2014, 03:14:23 PM
True spike elk only applies to those certain areas pertaining to the Colockum herd.
Post by: tgomez on November 04, 2014, 03:20:42 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 04, 2014, 03:25:23 PM
Nice work Bob33 - you managed to confuse even more people. :chuckle:Missed that. You're right. "Spike only" is not "true spike".
True spike elk only applies to those certain areas pertaining to the Colockum herd.
Oh well - maybe someone will ask when "true spike" started and now it's answered. :chuckle:
Post by: 6x6in6 on November 04, 2014, 03:27:39 PM
A spike, is a spike, is a spike. A spike that does not branch above the ear is a spike. Just my :twocents:
I'm sure it is, given that reasoning. :chuckle:
Post by: 334OKH on November 04, 2014, 03:40:45 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on November 04, 2014, 06:15:07 PM
Reading this thread was like walking through a canyon full of retarded echos.
My vote for saying of the week possibly the month!! I have wandered that canyon myself!!
The spike rule started at least 4" above the hair line but did not take real affect until brow tine.