Post by: bearpaw on November 02, 2014, 08:39:53 PM
Post by: Nape.257 on November 02, 2014, 09:01:22 PM
That being sead I bilt a 338Edge for my first long range rifle.
Because
1. Better barrel life than the 7Rum and 300RUM.
2. Bullets have a better BC .818 G1 300gr
3. 300RUM brass is affordable and can be found. Well you could find it back when I bilt mine.
Post by: Dan-o on November 02, 2014, 09:02:02 PM
Post by: jasnt on November 02, 2014, 09:02:54 PM
Post by: high country on November 02, 2014, 09:09:43 PM
In all seriousness, you gotta give more adjectives than just best. A weight and range requirement as a minimum.
Post by: PolarBear on November 02, 2014, 09:16:55 PM
Post by: Stein on November 02, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 02, 2014, 09:31:26 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on November 02, 2014, 09:43:48 PM
Looking at Remington model 700 LR
But can't decide on caliber . Would like 30.06 but have no idea about the best one.
I am not into much more recoil than .06. Not into muzzle brakes either.
Not planing on 1000+
Maybe 600 or less.
Missed out on a buck this year at about 450 up hill because I just did not feel good about the shot.
I will be following along.
Post by: KFhunter on November 02, 2014, 09:52:16 PM
It's my everyday bread-n-butter gun. Topped with decent glass it'll do you good out to 500 and even push that a little on a calm day.
Don't really need that extra weight and cost for a 600 yard gun. :twocents:
Post by: PolarBear on November 02, 2014, 09:56:59 PM
Post by: PolarBear on November 02, 2014, 10:06:20 PM
Post by: RadSav on November 02, 2014, 10:27:42 PM
BP never mentioned it had to be a hunting cartridge :chuckle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfM5TjvtvD8#t=50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfM5TjvtvD8#t=50)
416 Ultimate Weapons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJfStAD8mwY#ws)
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 02, 2014, 10:31:36 PM
The .300 Win Mag with a Berger 230 OTM is no slouch either.
.338 Edge / 300 grain Berger Hybrid. For size reference, MagPul 20 round AR mag.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto-161_zps398265ff.jpg&hash=d9aa00060b2547f2867916cea74f132bbe4a9231)
Post by: bearpaw on November 03, 2014, 04:01:16 AM
First shot at a 36 inch rock at 1130 yards I hit 6 inches below center.
Second shot at 10 inch rock at 1118 yards I hit again.
Third shot at 1790 yards I missed an 11 inch rock. (this was 1 mile and 30 yards)
Fourth shot at 1790 yards I hit the 11 inch rock.
I'm still amazed I could hit anything at that distance not to mention the first time I ever shot the gun. It seems like something I want to get involved in, was a lot of fun to say the least.
I know there are several long range shooters on the forum so I thought I would ask around about caliber before deciding what I should get. You never can hear too many opinions!
I do want good effectiveness at 1000+ yard shots on big game. It seems the .338 caliber 300 grain berger is a pretty good bullet for the task, that is what the guys were using and what I shot at the rocks.
Which is the better case 338 edge or 338/378?
Is there a better caliber than 338?
Post by: Bean Counter on November 03, 2014, 04:05:33 AM
338 lapua is a great choice. Brass and ammo isn't to crazy $ wise. The 338's are hard to beat at the extended ranges. I just got my 30-378 build done and it will be a 1k gun.
Isn't the Laupa still one of the more expensive rounds in the .338 class? A lot more than the Edge, no?
Post by: bearpaw on November 03, 2014, 04:08:00 AM
Post by: high country on November 03, 2014, 04:12:28 AM
My all time favorite high horsepower round was the 375/50bmg.
Post by: high country on November 03, 2014, 04:23:42 AM
Post by: Time Immemorial on November 03, 2014, 04:26:29 AM
Post by: addicted on November 03, 2014, 04:32:53 AM
Post by: RadSav on November 03, 2014, 04:44:37 AM
Post by: jasnt on November 03, 2014, 05:38:43 AM
I had a couple hunters with a nice long range 338 edge that let me shoot, there was a 6 mph cross wind.that sounds like a lot of fun!
First shot at a 36 inch rock at 1130 yards I hit 6 inches below center.
Second shot at 10 inch rock at 1118 yards I hit again.
Third shot at 1790 yards I missed an 11 inch rock. (this was 1 mile and 30 yards)
Fourth shot at 1790 yards I hit the 11 inch rock.
I'm still amazed I could hit anything at that distance not to mention the first time I ever shot the gun. It seems like something I want to get involved in, was a lot of fun to say the least.
I know there are several long range shooters on the forum so I thought I would ask around about caliber before deciding what I should get. You never can hear too many opinions!
I do want good effectiveness at 1000+ yard shots on big game. It seems the .338 caliber 300 grain berger is a pretty good bullet for the task, that is what the guys were using and what I shot at the rocks.
Which is the better case 338 edge or 338/378?
Is there a better caliber than 338?
Post by: KFhunter on November 03, 2014, 08:02:14 AM
I've heard rumors that there is some connection between RBros and Shawn Carlock. It that just rumor rubbish or is there something interesting there? If there is that might tilt my opinion towards the Edge :dunno:
That 338 Edge +p sounds very interesting
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 03, 2014, 08:08:28 AM
338 lapua is a great choice. Brass and ammo isn't to crazy $ wise. The 338's are hard to beat at the extended ranges. I just got my 30-378 build done and it will be a 1k gun.
carp,
Got pictures of that badboy ?
I've wanted a 30-378 or a 338-378. But, $150 for a box of ammo is out of my league.......
Post by: Killmore on November 03, 2014, 08:58:35 AM
I had a couple hunters with a nice long range 338 edge that let me shoot, there was a 6 mph cross wind.
First shot at a 36 inch rock at 1130 yards I hit 6 inches below center.
Second shot at 10 inch rock at 1118 yards I hit again.
Third shot at 1790 yards I missed an 11 inch rock. (this was 1 mile and 30 yards)
Fourth shot at 1790 yards I hit the 11 inch rock.
I'm still amazed I could hit anything at that distance not to mention the first time I ever shot the gun. It seems like something I want to get involved in, was a lot of fun to say the least.
I know there are several long range shooters on the forum so I thought I would ask around about caliber before deciding what I should get. You never can hear too many opinions!
I do want good effectiveness at 1000+ yard shots on big game. It seems the .338 caliber 300 grain berger is a pretty good bullet for the task, that is what the guys were using and what I shot at the rocks.
Which is the better case 338 edge or 338/378?
Is there a better caliber than 338?
Post by: snowshoes22 on November 03, 2014, 10:25:55 AM
I am in the process of thinking about a long range rifle for next year.
Looking at Remington model 700 LR
But can't decide on caliber . Would like 30.06 but have no idea about the best one.
I am not into much more recoil than .06. Not into muzzle brakes either.
Not planing on 1000+
Maybe 600 or less.
Missed out on a buck this year at about 450 up hill because I just did not feel good about the shot.
I will be following along.
Check out the 6.5-284. Same case capacity as 06 with better ballistics and no muzzle brake needed. I would not hisitate to shoot fur to 850 with mine. Hits steel to 1560 no problem. Thats where i run out of scope.
Post by: b23 on November 03, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
I am a reloader, I don't mind having to fire form brass or resize necks on brass. The simpler the better though. :chuckle:
If you reload and you're considering a 338 Lapua, I think you would like a 338 Lapua improved. Improving the 338 Lapua case has a very nice increase over the straight 338 Lapua. Typically, the improved version/s of the 338 Lapua will shoot about 200fps faster than a standard 338 Edge and 200-250fps faster than the straight 338 Lapua. Shawn's Edge+P will shoot pretty close to the same fps as a Lapua improved, while his 338 Terminator (338 Lapua Imp+P) is about another 100 fps above them.
There is no doubting Lapua's brass quality. It may seem expensive at first glance but it will pay for itself in the long run.
Post by: JohnVH on November 03, 2014, 11:24:52 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 03, 2014, 11:35:52 AM
338 lapua is a great choice. Brass and ammo isn't to crazy $ wise. The 338's are hard to beat at the extended ranges. I just got my 30-378 build done and it will be a 1k gun.
Isn't the Laupa still one of the more expensive rounds in the .338 class? A lot more than the Edge, no?
There is a lot of brass and ammo that is not to expensive. If you look at nosler brass the cost of the lapua brass compared to the 338 rum is almost identical in price. The 300 rum brass "which is necked up to make the 338 edge" and 338 lapua brass are also identical in price and you don't have to forum any brass with the lapua.
Post by: VarmintVentilator on November 03, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
Post by: whacker1 on November 03, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
I shoot a 300 RUM and find that I don't have enough time to target shoot and work on load development. I am shooting really well out to 500 - 600 yards. I don't practice enough beyond that. I have committed to having some work done to it this winter and will be making some time to play with some different loads.
I think you would be really happy with any of the following:
300 RUM
338 RUM
338 Edge
338 Lapua
30-378 Weatherby
33-378 Weatherby
The 338 heavier chamberings seem to be the most popular as they run the highest balistic coefficients and they can still push them fast enough out of these cases to make it worthwhile.
Every once in awhile the .325 conversation comes up, which would be the 8mm-300RUM, which Ultracat calls the 8MM Ultra Cat. I would think this less popular version would work well, but provides less selection in bullet choices. But it just depends on how bad you want to be different from the herd.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 03, 2014, 12:37:45 PM
I know a group of guys that shoot long distance every 3rd Sunday of the month in Northport. Let me know if you'd like to see the different calibers they use and I'll ask the owner if I could bring you up for a couple hours. It's a good ol' boys club and they want to keep the riff-raff out, if you know what I mean.
Post by: high country on November 03, 2014, 01:41:31 PM
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 03, 2014, 04:27:42 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 03, 2014, 06:02:44 PM
I will be running my little 6.8x64 this weekend in Idaho for my first PRS match...
Never heard of a 6.8x64.. I want to see a picture. I like cool guns that I can't afford. :tup:
Post by: Blacklab on November 03, 2014, 06:24:52 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 03, 2014, 06:49:01 PM
Grendel 6.5x 264 ar platform 1000 yards all day wth no recoil fatigue. www.6.5grendelforum.com (http://www.6.5grendelforum.com) a million years of experience. Worth a look :twocents:
Link won't open............I'll google it. Thanks.
Post by: mrolen on November 03, 2014, 06:49:53 PM
I will be running my little 6.8x64 this weekend in Idaho for my first PRS match...
270 win?
Post by: kentrek on November 03, 2014, 07:13:01 PM
The 270 or 7mm Allens would be awesome with the correct bullet
With at said it really doesn't matter...range..dope..shoot
Post by: rbros on November 04, 2014, 08:35:38 AM
338 lapua 2800-2825
338 edge 2900-2920
338 lapua imp 2975-3000
Using n570 in any of the above will boost speed but it's been impossible to find for a couple years.
Another option is my 300 rogue bases on the 338 lapua case. In 28" barrels it has been running 215's at 3400. Takes a bit of case prep though.
Post by: Blacklab on November 04, 2014, 08:44:27 AM
Grendel 6.5x 264 ar platform 1000 yards all day wth no recoil fatigue. www.6.5grendelforum.com (http://www.6.5grendelforum.com) a million years of experience. Worth a look :twocents:
Link won't open............I'll google it. Thanks.
Let me know what ya think ;)
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 04, 2014, 08:47:52 AM
Grendel 6.5x 264 ar platform 1000 yards all day wth no recoil fatigue. www.6.5grendelforum.com (http://www.6.5grendelforum.com) a million years of experience. Worth a look :twocents:
Link won't open............I'll google it. Thanks.
Let me know what ya think ;)
It just went to the forum and didn't show the gun. Plus, I don't want to sign up on a forum just to look at something.
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 04, 2014, 09:33:49 AM
I will be running my little 6.8x64 this weekend in Idaho for my first PRS match...
270 win?
yes sir!!
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 04, 2014, 09:35:43 AM
For 1k+ it's hard to beat the 338's. The edge or lapua imp would be the better of the bunch. Here is an example of what they typically run in 30" tubes out of the shop
338 lapua 2800-2825
338 edge 2900-2920
338 lapua imp 2975-3000
Using n570 in any of the above will boost speed but it's been impossible to find for a couple years.
are those velocities with 300 Grain pils?
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 04, 2014, 09:39:31 AM
My 270 winny is a rock solid 1300 yard rifle. my next step would be something for 2000 yards. Looking for options and ideas
Post by: rtspring on November 04, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
I killled a bull walking away from me at 532 yards neck shot. I knew the gun and would take that shot again any day of the week. I shoot factory 180 scirooccos out of mine and the gun loves them.
Good optics are a must!!! Mine has a 5.5-16.5 nikon titanium and has served me well.
Post by: Special T on November 04, 2014, 09:54:44 AM
The .338 Edge does just fine. Everyone has a different perspective of "Effective".
The .300 Win Mag with a Berger 230 OTM is no slouch either.
.338 Edge / 300 grain Berger Hybrid. For size reference, MagPul 20 round AR mag.
You mention the 300 win mag. Ive been interested in long range shooting, but dont really like the idea of having a gun that is hard/near impossbile to buy factory loads for. I realize that supreme acuracy is only found with custom loads but like the "option" Perhaps you could spell out some of the basic advanges price/ availabily/ range vs some of the other options.
I saw a video of an AR platform using the 300winmag and heard it may be used as a military weapon. Thoughts?
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 04, 2014, 10:25:52 AM
The .338 Edge does just fine. Everyone has a different perspective of "Effective".
The .300 Win Mag with a Berger 230 OTM is no slouch either.
.338 Edge / 300 grain Berger Hybrid. For size reference, MagPul 20 round AR mag.
You mention the 300 win mag. Ive been interested in long range shooting, but dont really like the idea of having a gun that is hard/near impossbile to buy factory loads for. I realize that supreme acuracy is only found with custom loads but like the "option" Perhaps you could spell out some of the basic advanges price/ availabily/ range vs some of the other options.
I saw a video of an AR platform using the 300winmag and heard it may be used as a military weapon. Thoughts?
The NEMO Omen is a 300 win mag in a AR -10ish platform. that is all I know. I think it would be a single feed is using hand loaded 230 bergers. I think to truely enjoy the addeed BC of the 230 Berger, you may need something with more case capacity than the 300 WinMag.
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 04, 2014, 10:51:24 AM
Post by: mrolen on November 04, 2014, 12:02:50 PM
I will be running my little 6.8x64 this weekend in Idaho for my first PRS match...
270 win?
yes sir!!
Thats great! love the 270 win I have been tossing around the idea for a while to build one. It seems like that is the only caliber I can find winchester brass for in town
Post by: rbros on November 04, 2014, 05:29:57 PM
For 1k+ it's hard to beat the 338's. The edge or lapua imp would be the better of the bunch. Here is an example of what they typically run in 30" tubes out of the shop
338 lapua 2800-2825
338 edge 2900-2920
338 lapua imp 2975-3000
Using n570 in any of the above will boost speed but it's been impossible to find for a couple years.
are those velocities with 300 Grain pils?
Yes, 300gr bullets
Post by: yorketransport on November 04, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
The guy that I shoot with runs a 338 Edge and I have an Edge barrel set up for one of my guns. It's a great caliber but I just never took to it. The 350 gr MK that I run out of the 375 BME offers a very similar BC to the 300 gr MK in 338 and costs about the same so I just stick with those most of the time. The 300 gr Berger OTM is a great bullet as well and even better if you have the gun setup to run them at a longer OAL. I have the 270 RUM and 6.5 Badger as well. They both shoot like lasers with the right bullets, but I've just taken a liking to the 7mm RUM and 375 BME.
Any time somebody tells me that they want to build a 338 Edge I try to talk them into going with the Lapua instead. Loaded to equal pressures the Lapua and Edge are nearly neck and neck, with the Lapua having a theoretical advantage because of it's (slightly) larger case capacity. The biggest advantage I see for the Lapua is not just the quality of the brass, but the availability. Try and find 300 or 375 RUM cases right not to form 338 Edge brass. It's not easy! It's tough to even find 404 Jeffery brass because people are using it to form Edge brass.
Andrew
Post by: bearpaw on November 05, 2014, 04:06:15 AM
Post by: Blacklab on November 05, 2014, 06:04:11 AM
6.5 Grendel - Alexander Arms This is the founder of Grendel :tup:
www.alexanderarms.com/products/65-grendel (http://www.alexanderarms.com/products/65-grendel) - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
With the addition of the 6.5 Grendel to the product lineup at Alexander ArmsŪ, ...
Post by: coachcw on November 05, 2014, 06:28:00 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 05, 2014, 06:31:40 AM
Try this Campmeat
6.5 Grendel - Alexander Arms This is the founder of Grendel :tup:
www.alexanderarms.com/products/65-grendel (http://www.alexanderarms.com/products/65-grendel) - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
With the addition of the 6.5 Grendel to the product lineup at Alexander ArmsŪ, ...
BL,
I know about the Grendel. I was wondering about the 6.8x64 that was mentioned...or, is that a wildcat based off the Grendel or 6.8 ?
Post by: Curly on November 05, 2014, 06:53:51 AM
Post by: LEN on November 05, 2014, 08:15:04 AM
LEN
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 05, 2014, 08:23:51 AM
Camp, I think that was a joke. 6.8x64 = 270 win.
yes, the 6.8x64 is a 270 WIN!! it was a joke...
However, it's potential is not a joke, you just have to build it to perform. Factory 270's are stuck with a 10 twist barrel.
The other problem is there are only ~ 6 bullets out there that work. 175 Matrix VLD (0.650 BC), 165 Matrix VLD(0.638 BC), Nozler 150 grain Long Range (0.569 BC per Litz), and Sierra 135 grain SMK. I have no experience with any Cutting Edge bullets or some of the other bore-rinders.
I only have experience handloading with the 150NABLR and the 165 Matrix and 130 grain Accubonds. The 175 is probably best used in a 270 AI, or a 270 WSM.
Nozler says the 10 twist will work with the NABLR, but Litz posted that the stability is marginal in a 10 twist. The 165 Matrix also needs faster than 10 twist.
My rifle will shoot ~.5 MOA with hand loads, and ~1 MOA with factory Winchester Ballistic silvertips with me running it. As the action is a Weatherby MKV, it really cant be tweaked like a Remmy, but it will shoot nonetheless.
so, with all that said, the potential with the 165 matrix is huge. I can push them to ~2850 out of my 9 twist Benchmark barrel. With a velocity of 2850 FPS and a BC of 0.638, 0.5 MOA accuracy, well, it's a shooter. It's not crazy accurate, but it's very usefull. The best part, I can use factory loads to 700 yards consistently, and those loads are always available at Wallyworld. I have taken the 130 Grain Win BST loads to 980 yards, and it's still on target, the issue is the wind...they get blown around like a 223.
IMHO, when it comes to building a rifle, especially in todays world, brass, powder, factory loads etc...etc.. MUST be readily available. Wildcats are cool, but if I have to fire form, cut, trim, use close to 100 grains of powder, etc. etc., well, it's not worth my time.
a 6.8x64 :chuckle: with a 165 matrix is a hammer at 1000 yards and supersonic to 1300 yards at standard conditions. Get some altitude and some higher temps, and that range grows. It's very similar in trajectory and supersonic range to a 300 Win Mag with 210 Bergers. 8)
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 05, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 05, 2014, 05:44:36 PM
Camp, I think that was a joke. 6.8x64 = 270 win.
Thanks Curly. I hate jokesters............. :chuckle:
...............and for you WoodlandShooter, I'm not done with you............. :tup:.
Post by: coachcw on November 05, 2014, 06:06:23 PM
really .5 moa is barely acceptable in my mind long rang. I can only imagine re sighting and getting the drops for factory wally world ammo and trying to get consistant on target hits at 700 with a moa set up. plus you must be able to judge wind and know your wind drift. I use a 30 inch pipe with a 1-8 twist for my 6.5 and a 140 vld 52.5 grains od rl19 300 off the lands pushing 3150 fps . it shoots 1/4 moa or better with a 1.5 lbs trigger , using a 5-20 power scope that has wind holds for my loads im sure its more accurate at 800 yards than most any out of box set ups at 300. remember spin drift ???? I set up 1/4 high and left at 200 yards to take the factor out of it in the field spin drift with send most bullets 10-12 inches low right at 1000 yards factor that in with factory ammo and a 700 yard shot moa with wind is a crap shoot that's before you even factor in angles and altitudes . wind is a huge x factor .Camp, I think that was a joke. 6.8x64 = 270 win.
yes, the 6.8x64 is a 270 WIN!! it was a joke...
However, it's potential is not a joke, you just have to build it to perform. Factory 270's are stuck with a 10 twist barrel.
The other problem is there are only ~ 6 bullets out there that work. 175 Matrix VLD (0.650 BC), 165 Matrix VLD(0.638 BC), Nozler 150 grain Long Range (0.569 BC per Litz), and Sierra 135 grain SMK. I have no experience with any Cutting Edge bullets or some of the other bore-rinders.
I only have experience handloading with the 150NABLR and the 165 Matrix and 130 grain Accubonds. The 175 is probably best used in a 270 AI, or a 270 WSM.
Nozler says the 10 twist will work with the NABLR, but Litz posted that the stability is marginal in a 10 twist. The 165 Matrix also needs faster than 10 twist.
My rifle will shoot ~.5 MOA with hand loads, and ~1 MOA with factory Winchester Ballistic silvertips with me running it. As the action is a Weatherby MKV, it really cant be tweaked like a Remmy, but it will shoot nonetheless.
so, with all that said, the potential with the 165 matrix is huge. I can push them to ~2850 out of my 9 twist Benchmark barrel. With a velocity of 2850 FPS and a BC of 0.638, 0.5 MOA accuracy, well, it's a shooter. It's not crazy accurate, but it's very usefull. The best part, I can use factory loads to 700 yards consistently, and those loads are always available at Wallyworld. I have taken the 130 Grain Win BST loads to 980 yards, and it's still on target, the issue is the wind...they get blown around like a 223.
IMHO, when it comes to building a rifle, especially in todays world, brass, powder, factory loads etc...etc.. MUST be readily available. Wildcats are cool, but if I have to fire form, cut, trim, use close to 100 grains of powder, etc. etc., well, it's not worth my time.
a 6.8x64 :chuckle: with a 165 matrix is a hammer at 1000 yards and supersonic to 1300 yards at standard conditions. Get some altitude and some higher temps, and that range grows. It's very similar in trajectory and supersonic range to a 300 Win Mag with 210 Bergers. 8)
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 06, 2014, 08:48:46 AM
here is my Winchester BST group at 100 yards. Not great, but it's not bad either. 5 shots, ~ 1 MOA
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 06, 2014, 08:53:32 AM
If I wanted to "sound" cooler on the interweb, I could proclaim a 0.25 MOA group with three shots, but in reality, that's just lame.
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 06, 2014, 08:59:00 AM
here is my dope card for this weekend DA is 2570'.
Drops really dont change much untill I go past 700 yards with the 165 Matrix pils.
Post by: MP123 on November 06, 2014, 09:29:12 AM
Here is a 5 shot 200 yard group with my 150 NABLR Hand loads.
If I wanted to "sound" cooler on the interweb, I could proclaim a 0.25 MOA group with three shots, but in reality, that's just lame.
Heck, you could claim "one ragged hole" if you eliminated the other two... :chuckle:
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 06, 2014, 09:33:01 AM
Post by: bearpaw on November 18, 2014, 07:20:05 AM
Does anyone have experience with the .416 Barrett or 50 BMG? Can these cartridges be used in 13 pound rifle with brake without beating you to death?
Any opinions on the 338/378 Weatherby verses the 338 edge or 338 lapua? Seems like it will be a problem getting brass for the edge?
Post by: Jim the Plumber on November 18, 2014, 07:42:30 AM
Thanks again for all the info.
Does anyone have experience with the .416 Barrett or 50 BMG? Can these cartridges be used in 13 pound rifle with brake without beating you to death?
Any opinions on the 338/378 Weatherby verses the 338 edge or 338 lapua? Seems like it will be a problem getting brass for the edge?
I have owned 5 50BMG rifles. You do not want a 50 BMG in a 13 pound rifle. Having shot a 416, I would say no to 13#s there as well.
For ease of ammo and components in a 13 pound rifle I would look at the 338 Lapua. Travis built me one that I hunt with have have been successful on bear and coyotes with.
Post by: jaymark6655 on November 18, 2014, 09:01:55 AM
.338 LM is awesome and to me it seems to have less recoil than .300 WM, more push than snap I guess. Never have shoot the edge, but have heard that barrel life is better with it than the Lapua.
CheyTec = overpressure
No experience with the .416
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 18, 2014, 09:41:22 AM
Thanks again for all the info.There is a compact 50 BMG in a bull pup configuration that gets down to around 15 pounds or so. But the set up really isn't for long range. Even the AR conversion 50s are still pretty heavy.
Does anyone have experience with the .416 Barrett or 50 BMG? Can these cartridges be used in 13 pound rifle with brake without beating you to death?
Any opinions on the 338/378 Weatherby verses the 338 edge or 338 lapua? Seems like it will be a problem getting brass for the edge?
The 338/378 mostly has a case capacity advantage over the others mentioned and gives about a 100 fps advantage over RUM/Edge and 200 fps advantage over Lapua. If you want choice of brands for reloading brass and loads, the Lapua is generally favored. The 338/378 with brake/scope/sling can easily run around 10 pounds.
Post by: WoodlandShooter on November 18, 2014, 10:05:29 AM
Post by: idaho guy on November 18, 2014, 10:35:53 AM
I just bought the scope because I already had the rifle but he sells the whole package too. No trying to advertise for the Thompson guns there are others but I would consider that type of scope.
Post by: coachcw on November 18, 2014, 06:29:06 PM