Post by: kukusya on November 03, 2014, 05:22:56 AM
So that a list what I use to have or still have it and my experience with it.
30-30 win nice deer rifle for west side and unsuitable for east side, high hunt (mule deer).
243 win good rifle for west but terrible on east or high deer hunt.
308 win great deer rifle but too small for elk. 4 year ago I was hunting in Rochester WA for Roosevelt elk. I shot nice fat cow from 80 yards away. Bullet go through rib cage on right side leavening almost no damage to right lung go in left lung leavening 2 inch rip in it and stock between ribs on left side. No kill shot couple hours of tracking was involve to get 400 pounds of meat to our freezers.
375 Ruger supper elk rifle I use in Sandpoint Idaho for elk. But I see no use for it in WA for it. 1 shot 1 kill from 275 yard it knock nice bull on his side. No screaming, tracking it was clean shot and bullet was not recovered.
Sorry for mistakes, English my second language.
Sincerely,
Post by: RadSav on November 03, 2014, 05:40:21 AM
Accubond has become my go to bullet for the 7. Though I probably would find something else if I ever intended to shoot more than 500 yards.
I might add, if you were not happy with the 308 on elk you may not be all that happy with the 7 either. May want to look at a 300 instead. I've gotten about the same terminal performance from the 308 as I have the 7. Though I've never/clients have never had an elk go more than 30 yards after taking a round from the 308.
Post by: jasnt on November 03, 2014, 05:43:58 AM
PS 243 is perfect for eastside deer!
Post by: kukusya on November 03, 2014, 05:50:54 AM
300wm and never look back :chuckle:243 didn't do job for me. Not everybody sniper. :)
PS 243 is perfect for eastside deer!
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 03, 2014, 05:59:13 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on November 03, 2014, 06:00:17 AM
I have found prestige condition Ruger M77 in 7mm Rem mag with magna-port barrel. And I don't really sure if I need it. I have a experience with couple of calibers but I'm not satisfy with some of them or I have no use for them anymore.
So that a list what I use to have or still have it and my experience with it.
30-30 win nice deer rifle for west side and unsuitable for east side, high hunt (mule deer).
243 win good rifle for west but terrible on east or high deer hunt.
308 win great deer rifle but too small for elk. 4 year ago I was hunting in Rochester WA for Roosevelt elk. I shot nice fat cow from 80 yards away. Bullet go through rib cage on right side leavening almost no damage to right lung go in left lung leavening 2 inch rip in it and stock between ribs on left side. No kill shot couple hours of tracking was involve to get 400 pounds of meat to our freezers.
375 Ruger supper elk rifle I use in Sandpoint Idaho for elk. But I see no use for it in WA for it. 1 shot 1 kill from 275 yard it knock nice bull on his side. No screaming, tracking it was clean shot and bullet was not recovered.
Sorry for mistakes, English my second language.
Sincerely,
.308 is a great elk round. My guess is wrong bullet choice or an anomaly.
Post by: kukusya on November 03, 2014, 06:10:02 AM
Federal Vital-shock 180gr.
28F light snow.
Post by: Miles on November 03, 2014, 06:30:23 AM
Post by: Damnimissed on November 03, 2014, 07:19:35 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2014, 08:05:31 AM
Post by: kukusya on November 03, 2014, 08:11:38 AM
7mm Remington Mag is fine. Not sure I'd want the magna ported barrel though, as it will be louder.Thanks for info. I thought it just reduce recoil like muzzle brake.
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 03, 2014, 08:24:44 AM
I have found prestige condition Ruger M77 in 7mm Rem mag with magna-port barrel. And I don't really sure if I need it. I have a experience with couple of calibers but I'm not satisfy with some of them or I have no use for them anymore.
So that a list what I use to have or still have it and my experience with it.
30-30 win nice deer rifle for west side and unsuitable for east side, high hunt (mule deer).
243 win good rifle for west but terrible on east or high deer hunt.
308 win great deer rifle but too small for elk. 4 year ago I was hunting in Rochester WA for Roosevelt elk. I shot nice fat cow from 80 yards away. Bullet go through rib cage on right side leavening almost no damage to right lung go in left lung leavening 2 inch rip in it and stock between ribs on left side. No kill shot couple hours of tracking was involve to get 400 pounds of meat to our freezers.
375 Ruger supper elk rifle I use in Sandpoint Idaho for elk. But I see no use for it in WA for it. 1 shot 1 kill from 275 yard it knock nice bull on his side. No screaming, tracking it was clean shot and bullet was not recovered.
Sorry for mistakes, English my second language.
Sincerely,
.308 is a great elk round. My guess is wrong bullet choice or an anomaly.
I agree. .308 is probably one of the best all-purpose rounds.
That cow probably went so far because she was twice the size of a normal cow. 400 lbs of meat :o
If you're just wanting a new gun that is "more" all-purpose, I'd say a WSM in .300 :tup: tough to go wrong there
Post by: kukusya on November 03, 2014, 08:27:54 AM
Roosevelt elk a little bit bigger that Rocky Mountain elk.
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 03, 2014, 08:39:45 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 03, 2014, 09:27:27 AM
Post by: Alchase on November 03, 2014, 09:54:14 AM
I prefer 300 WM or 7 MM, but I also own a .243 WSSM and others.
Whomever said the .308 was not a good elk caliber is on some serious drugs. The .308 and 30-06 are probably the most numerous and most popular calibers by a long shot.
Any of those calibers will work just fine. Find one that works for you.
Post by: Curly on November 03, 2014, 01:36:53 PM
If I were you, I'd probably use the 375 for elk here in WA.
The cow with the .308 was probably just a fluke or chalk it up to poor bullet performance. Sure seems like a 180 gr Federal Vital Shok would do the trick at 80 yards, but they aren't loaded with very good bullets, so maybe if you went with a better constructed bullet (bonded or solid copper) you might have had better results with your .308 on elk. :twocents:
So, since you seem to have elk covered, I think if I were in your shoes, I'd look for a mountain rifle in .270 Win, .280 Rem, or even 7mm-08 since you mention a rifle for the high hunt. (Personally, I'm not a magnum fan in a lightweight rifle or the 7mm mag might be on the list too along with 270WSM or 300WSM.) I think you would find the model 77 to get a little heavy carrying around on a high hunt. :twocents:
Post by: Curly on November 03, 2014, 01:38:36 PM
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Post by: runamuk on November 03, 2014, 02:07:15 PM
A ruger hardly needs a brake in 7mm......they weight like 30 pounds from the factory. ..lol.:chuckle: :chuckle: as an owner of a ruger this is pretty accurate :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: b23 on November 03, 2014, 02:30:56 PM
Post by: RadSav on November 03, 2014, 02:38:31 PM
Rifle Winchester model 88.
Federal Vital-shock 180gr.
28F light snow.
You may need to sell me that horrible performing rifle. Since it is no good I expect a screaming deal! I just might be able to make something out of it if I work real hard :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I am a fan of Ruger rifles. They usually need a little help to get under MOA and they do have a heavy action. But mine are real shooters. Have only had one over the years that was a crap pile. Gave it away to a fella that put a new barrel on it - Bam sub MOA! Back when they had the tang safety I think they had three or four different barrel manufacturers. Some were good - same were bad. The newer models with the three position safety should have great barrels unless someone has burnt them out thinking it is a sniper rifle.
I've never thought the MagnaPort did much for retarding recoil. It is cool looking though ;) And I do think it keeps you on target better for that quick follow up shot. My wife will shoot the 7Mag all day long so recoil isn't all that bad even if you are small framed. Going to seem like a sweetheart compared to the 375 Ruger!
Post by: C-Money on November 03, 2014, 02:40:59 PM
7mm Remington Mag is fine. Not sure I'd want the magna ported barrel though, as it will be louder.Thanks for info. I thought it just reduce recoil like muzzle brake.
Your ears will ring for days if you shoot it without ear protection. Not enough recoil reduction to warrant the magna port. I'd look at the 7mm-08, which would be perfect in the NW corner.
Post by: Skillet on November 03, 2014, 02:49:14 PM
Whomever said the .308 was not a good elk caliber is on some serious drugs. The .308 and 30-06 are probably the most numerous and most popular calibers by a long shot.
That was the OP... Considering his obvious drug use, maybe we should be advising he pick up an AirSoft :chuckle:
I would say the "best" all around general purpose rifle for the OP would be a sturdy bolt action with at least 22"-24" of barrel with decent 3x9 scope in 30-06. Complete kill-it-all rig could be had in good used condition for under $500 all day long, :twocents: People too often skip over the -06 since it is probably the most common hunting round out there. But there's a reason for that... Plentiful, cheap ammo of all flavors, nearly all of which has enough horsepower and range to do 99% of the typical Washington hunting we have available. I've owned a bunch of different calibers, so I know the pull that a new whizbang cartridge has, but in the end... it is more about the hunting than the shooting to me. That in mind, I believe a 30-06 serves admirably for the northwest.
Post by: TONTO on November 03, 2014, 05:23:27 PM
Now after reading the posts, like said before a 7mm dosen't need the porting, I'ld personly rather take the recoil than the noise, has more than enough bang for my ears without the port holes.
308 is a great caliber my father and brother have killed many an elk with them. The 88 is a great rifle, on my wish list actualy my uncle used to shoot one and I always loved that rifle.
As far as the .243 I used to used to hunt with one, and if I wasn't already packing a 7mm it would be my choice for a high deer hunt. Lately though I have been thinking about getting a 7mm-08 not because I don't love my mag anymore just thinking shorter lighter, but still love the 7mm bullet.
Post by: runamuk on November 04, 2014, 10:57:58 AM
7mm Remington Mag is fine. Not sure I'd want the magna ported barrel though, as it will be louder.Thanks for info. I thought it just reduce recoil like muzzle brake.
Your ears will ring for days if you shoot it without ear protection. Not enough recoil reduction to warrant the magna port. I'd look at the 7mm-08, which would be perfect in the NW corner.
I have this caliber7mm08 ruger hawkeye synthetic stock I do have a custom trigger because not only is the gun heavy so was the trigger. With my scope and sling I'd say my gun weighs about 10lbs which for me is about the top end of what I can pack around all day. It has taken some fiddling to get it to where it and I shoot how I wanted but I am now there and pretty happy with it. Will be happier when I get to shoot something other than paper and pinecones however.