Post by: wolfbait on November 06, 2014, 09:51:28 PM
http://www.capitalpress.com/Washington/20141104/once-studied-closely-moving-wolves-to-olympic-peninsula-unlikely-now?utm_source=Capital+Press+Newsletters&utm_campaign=5f96f7ab21-Livestock_Weekly_Update&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4b7e61b049-5f96f7ab21-69636365 (http://www.capitalpress.com/Washington/20141104/once-studied-closely-moving-wolves-to-olympic-peninsula-unlikely-now?utm_source=Capital+Press+Newsletters&utm_campaign=5f96f7ab21-Livestock_Weekly_Update&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4b7e61b049-5f96f7ab21-69636365)
Post by: fordpowerforever on November 06, 2014, 10:16:01 PM
Post by: Bango skank on November 06, 2014, 10:17:26 PM
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....
Extirpation
Post by: fordpowerforever on November 06, 2014, 10:28:00 PM
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....
Extirpation
yes, that is a better word choice...
Post by: villageidiot on November 07, 2014, 10:37:42 PM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on November 07, 2014, 11:01:07 PM
Seems the West Side wants to share the love, but only if it stays on the East Side.
Post by: wolfbait on November 08, 2014, 06:01:33 PM
"An Olympic Peninsula legislator, Rep. Kevin Van De Wege, D-Sequim, said he wasn’t opposed to wolves migrating onto the peninsula, but doesn’t want them relocated there."
"Migrating wolves" :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Griiz on November 08, 2014, 06:35:47 PM
Post by: splashcaster on November 08, 2014, 08:34:32 PM
I like how it says you can't put wolves on the wet side because they would leave the park and terrorize small towns. What did they think would happen on the east side. The east side gets screwed because they don't have the votes and political pull off the Puget sound region. Voting needs to change so county votes are compared to county votes so they get equal say in what goes on in this state. Sorry eastsiders, you have really been bent over.
:yeah:
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on November 09, 2014, 07:39:46 AM
Post by: Brad Harshman on November 09, 2014, 07:54:23 AM
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....
This makes me sad. We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics. If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it. Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality. Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable. The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.
Post by: AspenBud on November 09, 2014, 03:51:10 PM
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....
This makes me sad. We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics. If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it. Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality. Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable. The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.
Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"
Post by: Birdguy on November 09, 2014, 05:43:31 PM
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....
This makes me sad. We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics. If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it. Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality. Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable. The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.
Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"
Can not make that trade. We will need the hoof rot affected elk to feed the wolves. Everyone knows a pack of wolves can not...... make that "will not" eat the healthy of the herd only the young, old, lame, and weak, oh and any other ones they can catch. It is all about balance :bash:.
Post by: Brad Harshman on November 09, 2014, 05:51:54 PM
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....
This makes me sad. We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics. If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it. Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality. Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable. The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.
Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"
Wow, wow, wow. That is not a comparable arguement. Hoof rot is a natural condition. Even better it would be surpressed by a healthy wolf population. Don't get me wrong, I don't an uncontrolled wolf population anywhere! But this issue won't get enough political pressure until it starts affecting the westside of the state where the majority of the voting population lives.
Post by: idahohuntr on November 09, 2014, 06:01:49 PM
I wonder how many people actually believe that the USFWS and WDFW haven't already put wolves on the OP etc.?Probably just the people who don't wear tinfoil hats :tup:
Post by: Jingles on November 09, 2014, 06:03:56 PM
Post by: bugs n bones on November 09, 2014, 06:09:02 PM
Post by: AspenBud on November 10, 2014, 09:05:35 AM
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....
This makes me sad. We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics. If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it. Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality. Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable. The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.
Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"
Can not make that trade. We will need the hoof rot affected elk to feed the wolves. Everyone knows a pack of wolves can not...... make that "will not" eat the healthy of the herd only the young, old, lame, and weak, oh and any other ones they can catch. It is all about balance :bash:.
Then it should work out great. Rather than just one corner of the state negatively affected we can really slit our wrists as hunters and have elk and deer in every corner wiped out. A true end to big game hunting...expedited.
Sounds like a brilliant plan. :bash:
Post by: AspenBud on November 10, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....
This makes me sad. We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics. If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it. Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality. Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable. The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.
Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"
Wow, wow, wow. That is not a comparable arguement. Hoof rot is a natural condition. Even better it would be surpressed by a healthy wolf population. Don't get me wrong, I don't an uncontrolled wolf population anywhere! But this issue won't get enough political pressure until it starts affecting the westside of the state where the majority of the voting population lives.
Not according to several people in the areas it is occurring.
Post by: turkeyfeather on November 10, 2014, 09:11:50 AM
I wonder how many people actually believe that the USFWS and WDFW haven't already put wolves on the OP etc.?What's the difference if they migrate on their own or in the back of a truck. They are still migrating. :chuckle:
"An Olympic Peninsula legislator, Rep. Kevin Van De Wege, D-Sequim, said he wasn’t opposed to wolves migrating onto the peninsula, but doesn’t want them relocated there."
"Migrating wolves" :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Katmai Guy on November 10, 2014, 09:34:24 AM
Post by: Sandberm on November 10, 2014, 09:43:04 AM
Post by: AspenBud on November 10, 2014, 10:20:37 AM
I wish I could remember where I saw it but...I just read something about introducing wolves to the Olympic peninsula as a way to control some animals population. There were 3 options as a means to control this species and one option was the introduction of wolves. Maybe it was a WDFW e-mail. ...sheep, goats....cant remember
Probably mountain goats. Despite a hiker getting himself gored to death by one a few years back (btw, that means mountain goats have wolves beat for fatalities in the lower 48) the enviro's are fighting attempts to eliminate them.
Post by: Sandberm on November 10, 2014, 10:26:58 AM
I wish I could remember where I saw it but...I just read something about introducing wolves to the Olympic peninsula as a way to control some animals population. There were 3 options as a means to control this species and one option was the introduction of wolves. Maybe it was a WDFW e-mail. ...sheep, goats....cant remember
Probably mountain goats. Despite a hiker getting himself gored to death by one a few years back (btw, that means mountain goats have wolves beat for fatalities in the lower 48) the enviro's are fighting attempts to eliminate them.
Didnt the family win a large settlement from the state as a result of the hikers death from goat? Usually the state getting sued leads to policy change and freedoms being taken away from the rest of us.
Post by: AspenBud on November 10, 2014, 10:36:26 AM
I wish I could remember where I saw it but...I just read something about introducing wolves to the Olympic peninsula as a way to control some animals population. There were 3 options as a means to control this species and one option was the introduction of wolves. Maybe it was a WDFW e-mail. ...sheep, goats....cant remember
Probably mountain goats. Despite a hiker getting himself gored to death by one a few years back (btw, that means mountain goats have wolves beat for fatalities in the lower 48) the enviro's are fighting attempts to eliminate them.
Didnt the family win a large settlement from the state as a result of the hikers death from goat? Usually the state getting sued leads to policy change and freedoms being taken away from the rest of us.
They did and the case was dismissed.
One of the crazier lawsuits I've seen in a while, mainly because I'm sorry, if you walk into the wild there are things that can hurt you. Come prepared and accept some personal responsibility.
Post by: idahohuntr on November 10, 2014, 10:49:04 AM
:yeah:I wish I could remember where I saw it but...I just read something about introducing wolves to the Olympic peninsula as a way to control some animals population. There were 3 options as a means to control this species and one option was the introduction of wolves. Maybe it was a WDFW e-mail. ...sheep, goats....cant remember
Probably mountain goats. Despite a hiker getting himself gored to death by one a few years back (btw, that means mountain goats have wolves beat for fatalities in the lower 48) the enviro's are fighting attempts to eliminate them.
Didnt the family win a large settlement from the state as a result of the hikers death from goat? Usually the state getting sued leads to policy change and freedoms being taken away from the rest of us.
They did and the case was dismissed.
One of the crazier lawsuits I've seen in a while, mainly because I'm sorry, if you walk into the wild there are things that can hurt you. Come prepared and accept some personal responsibility.