Post by: TeacherMan on November 10, 2014, 09:35:09 AM
Post by: Machias on November 10, 2014, 09:39:25 AM
P.S. I'd still really like to buy a Kodiak red fox if your friend has any to sell this year. ;)
Post by: TeacherMan on November 10, 2014, 09:48:07 AM
Yehaw, one of my favorite threads of the year.
P.S. I'd still really like to buy a Kodiak red fox if your friend has any to sell this year. ;)
I've got a couple from Kodiak that are not tanned. Id been holding out selling them waiting to get tanned. He will also be starting his line today.
Post by: ouchfoss on November 10, 2014, 01:45:41 PM
Post by: Netminder01 on November 10, 2014, 01:55:05 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 10, 2014, 01:57:40 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 10, 2014, 02:12:48 PM
Get anything yet? :hello:
Just going to be getting my line started tonight! We are warm again this yr starting. It was 46 last night and around 42 right now. My line is around 150 miles north of here and its been just below freezing up there with little to no snow so its a rough start. Hard not being able to get out the snow machine.
Post by: TeacherMan on November 10, 2014, 07:10:05 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 11, 2014, 04:58:40 PM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on November 11, 2014, 05:24:07 PM
How much do the wolf pelts usually go for? Or is that something you usually keep?
Post by: Machias on November 11, 2014, 05:25:53 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 11, 2014, 05:38:16 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 11, 2014, 05:40:19 PM
Post by: Machias on November 11, 2014, 06:24:55 PM
Post by: jackmaster on November 11, 2014, 06:26:11 PM
Post by: GBoyd on November 11, 2014, 06:30:50 PM
Great pictures! How did you get to be trapping out there 100 miles from a house?
Post by: 3nails on November 11, 2014, 06:33:50 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 11, 2014, 06:54:18 PM
Teacherman
Great pictures! How did you get to be trapping out there 100 miles from a house?
AK is a very very large place!!! 100 miles maybe a stretch to any home but not much of one. Some of my line goes 65 miles in one way from the highway via snow machine. With that said that trail head is 135 miles from nearest city. There are always cabins to be found but those are far and few between. It is nothing like WA. Remember AK is bigger than Texas, California, and Montana combined lol. Years past once it gets cold enough we've set fly out lines as well.
Post by: TeacherMan on November 11, 2014, 07:01:13 PM
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Post by: quadrafire on November 12, 2014, 10:10:08 AM
Post by: quadrafire on November 12, 2014, 10:54:37 AM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 12, 2014, 12:07:24 PM
And you want to move back down here........ :chuckle: WHY
Idaho, I'll trap there as well trust me ;) If I put a 1/10th of the effort into trapping and hunting down there as I do here nothing will be safe! Your population density of animals is ten fold ours, we just have huge vast areas to create overal populations. I need to come help you guys out with your little wolf problem lol.
Post by: elkoholic1 on November 12, 2014, 03:09:39 PM
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Post by: JJB11B on November 12, 2014, 04:28:38 PM
Post by: quadrafire on November 12, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,154386.msg2044031.html#msg2044031 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,154386.msg2044031.html#msg2044031)
Post by: TeacherMan on November 12, 2014, 06:47:20 PM
I am ignorant. what was the white critter in the big mouse trap thingy?
It's an ermine, white weasel.
Post by: TeacherMan on November 12, 2014, 09:59:16 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 13, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
Post by: JODakota on November 13, 2014, 06:44:12 PM
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 14, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 14, 2014, 06:37:15 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 14, 2014, 07:25:22 PM
That is a pretty martin!
It's getting shipped to Michelle Nelson 😉 doing a mount with an ermine! Should be cool.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2014, 07:45:48 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 14, 2014, 08:12:41 PM
I don't think you could pick a better one to mount. That one sure is pretty!
Darkest and biggest one I've ever seen! Size of a fisher lol.
Post by: quadrafire on November 14, 2014, 08:30:53 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 14, 2014, 08:46:54 PM
Those girls are so darned cute. Love the pistol pic
Those girls have killed more critters than most grown men lol. Fox killing machines!
Post by: TeacherMan on November 15, 2014, 05:35:34 PM
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Post by: TeacherMan on November 15, 2014, 06:39:05 PM
Post by: Seahawk12 on November 15, 2014, 06:54:44 PM
That ice looks fun.
Good luck the rest of the season.
Post by: Machias on November 16, 2014, 05:36:32 PM
Post by: jasnt on November 16, 2014, 09:16:13 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on November 17, 2014, 11:19:06 AM
Best of luck to you and yours this season!
Post by: TeacherMan on November 18, 2014, 02:05:37 PM
Post by: jasnt on November 18, 2014, 02:27:40 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 18, 2014, 02:41:47 PM
Post by: JODakota on November 18, 2014, 04:22:33 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 18, 2014, 06:14:45 PM
Let's see some put up fur!
I'll get some pics from my skinner, lol. I pay one of my students to skin. Great little side job for him.
Post by: TeacherMan on November 19, 2014, 09:10:09 AM
Post by: quadrafire on November 19, 2014, 10:41:58 AM
Post by: jackmaster on November 19, 2014, 12:11:40 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 19, 2014, 01:29:42 PM
dude where do you keep a gator up in alaska? lol..
In my garage lol. He's actually visiting my classroom right now. He lives either in a 180 gal tank or a 300 gal Rubbermaid water tank. Lol. Has a turtle for a friend that's always with him. During the summer I put a harness on him and let hi sun in the yard.
Post by: TeacherMan on November 19, 2014, 01:30:18 PM
Holy Smokes that is a fat mouse, I thought it was a mole
Everything is bigger in AK lol.
Post by: bowhunterforever on November 19, 2014, 01:36:23 PM
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Post by: jasnt on November 19, 2014, 09:40:29 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 19, 2014, 10:55:24 PM
I sure wish we had more fox around here. Trade them in for coyotes any day
I actually try and avoid coyotes up here. They sell pretty good but when I'm in yotes I'm usually out of fox and I just like getting them so much more!
Post by: jasnt on November 20, 2014, 09:57:04 AM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 20, 2014, 10:47:00 AM
I've seen one in elk WA few years back and I heard of a few since but I got so many coyote around my place its crazy! Sure wish we could snare here.
That's my old stomping ground. Use to trap tons of yotes, cat, beaver and rats in that area years ago! Never ran into a fox but things change. Love that area, planned on moving back there until i594. Now I've been looking at North Idaho. Be better trapping anyway.
Post by: JODakota on November 20, 2014, 04:44:06 PM
dude where do you keep a gator up in alaska? lol..
In my garage lol. He's actually visiting my classroom right now. He lives either in a 180 gal tank or a 300 gal Rubbermaid water tank. Lol. Has a turtle for a friend that's always with him. During the summer I put a harness on him and let hi sun in the yard.
This is awesome! Love it!
Post by: JODakota on November 20, 2014, 04:46:05 PM
I've seen one in elk WA few years back and I heard of a few since but I got so many coyote around my place its crazy! Sure wish we could snare here.
That's my old stomping ground. Use to trap tons of yotes, cat, beaver and rats in that area years ago! Never ran into a fox but things change. Love that area, planned on moving back there until i594. Now I've been looking at North Idaho. Be better trapping anyway.
I told my wife the same thing. As much as I love North Dakota, there's still a lot lacking. We were really excited to move back to Walla Walla in a few years, but with I-594 passing, it's just not in the cards. So Idaho it will probably be.
Post by: jasnt on November 20, 2014, 05:30:58 PM
I'm right there with ya. Been thinking of Idaho trapping. But non res trappers license is little over $300 plus all my fuel! I been chatting with your dad a little lately. He said something about bobcat.I've seen one in elk WA few years back and I heard of a few since but I got so many coyote around my place its crazy! Sure wish we could snare here.
That's my old stomping ground. Use to trap tons of yotes, cat, beaver and rats in that area years ago! Never ran into a fox but things change. Love that area, planned on moving back there until i594. Now I've been looking at North Idaho. Be better trapping anyway.
Post by: TeacherMan on November 20, 2014, 07:29:33 PM
I'm right there with ya. Been thinking of Idaho trapping. But non res trappers license is little over $300 plus all my fuel! I been chatting with your dad a little lately. He said something about bobcat.I've seen one in elk WA few years back and I heard of a few since but I got so many coyote around my place its crazy! Sure wish we could snare here.
That's my old stomping ground. Use to trap tons of yotes, cat, beaver and rats in that area years ago! Never ran into a fox but things change. Love that area, planned on moving back there until i594. Now I've been looking at North Idaho. Be better trapping anyway.
I'm planning on trapping there as soon as I move down. Bobcats will be my main focus. I've already got all the traps a person could fathom for it. Along with wolf traps. I'll also run a 100% Snowmachine line, not many guys down there take it to that level. I'm coming down over Christmas for a couple weeks and plan on running his line with him in WA. Hoping to get a fat tom to send off to the taxidermist. Seems like most my furs end up decorating my house lol.
Post by: jasnt on November 20, 2014, 07:41:21 PM
bobcat and cougar are my focus this year!
Post by: TeacherMan on November 20, 2014, 08:47:31 PM
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Post by: TeacherMan on November 22, 2014, 03:09:54 PM
Love the sled . That lynx is huge! What's the biggest bobcat you ever got?
My dad got one that was 48" I believe. Game warden that tagged it thought it was a lynx at first. Monster tom!
Post by: TeacherMan on November 22, 2014, 03:12:04 PM
Post by: jasnt on November 22, 2014, 03:13:56 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on November 22, 2014, 03:18:23 PM
Wow that's huge! Biggest I've heard of taken over here was 42". I thought that was big. Was that taken near his place?
No, pass between west side and east side. Couple hundred miles from his place.
Post by: Da stump on November 22, 2014, 03:23:09 PM
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Post by: TeacherMan on November 29, 2014, 10:02:10 PM
As I was cleaning the snow out of my cubby I had a pack of wolves start howling just down the ravine from me. Guessing since I was near a stream and that muffles noise they must been within 250-300 yds.
I put 4 snares on the main trail. When I head up next time I'll put in a couple 750s or #9s on scent posts. Always makes you watch your back little more when you know there right there ;)
Post by: pips4bucks on November 29, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
I work with a trapper who lives in Fairbanks. He's starting to use a piece of #9 wire to hang his bait in front of his marten sets. He says it keeps him from catching birds. I don't think he uses boxes either, but I'm not positive about that. He primarily targets marten. It's fun talking with him.
Just a tip I learned that I thought you might find helpful.
Post by: TeacherMan on November 30, 2014, 01:10:39 PM
Hey Teach...
I work with a trapper who lives in Fairbanks. He's starting to use a piece of #9 wire to hang his bait in front of his marten sets. He says it keeps him from catching birds. I don't think he uses boxes either, but I'm not positive about that. He primarily targets marten. It's fun talking with him.
Just a tip I learned that I thought you might find helpful.
Great idea! I'll give it a shot. Not a lot of marten in my area but love catching them. Only issue I can see is a magpie could clean my baits out really quick lol.
Post by: TeacherMan on November 30, 2014, 03:28:05 PM
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Post by: jasnt on December 02, 2014, 12:26:15 AM
Post by: TeacherMan on December 02, 2014, 12:52:52 AM
Ouch. I been there. Was so excited when I shot my first bear I didn't completely shoulder my 300wm. Last time that ever happened lol bled like crazy!
338 win mag 250gr Barnes heavy hand loads ;)
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Post by: TeacherMan on December 06, 2014, 01:38:22 PM
mmmmmm...... Summer sausage, pepper sticks and breakfast sausage.
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Post by: jasnt on December 08, 2014, 09:20:39 AM
I really enjoy following this topic every year, thanks for taking the time to get all the photos and tell the stories. :tup::yeah: thank you
Post by: Carp Commander on December 08, 2014, 06:15:30 PM
I really enjoy following this topic every year, thanks for taking the time to get all the photos and tell the stories. :tup::yeah: thank you
:yeah:
Post by: jackmaster on December 09, 2014, 12:22:13 PM
:yeah: :yeah: are you sure you want to move back down here to the lower 48 :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:I really enjoy following this topic every year, thanks for taking the time to get all the photos and tell the stories. :tup::yeah: thank you
:yeah:
Post by: TeacherMan on December 09, 2014, 01:57:23 PM
:yeah: :yeah: are you sure you want to move back down here to the lower 48 :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:I really enjoy following this topic every year, thanks for taking the time to get all the photos and tell the stories. :tup::yeah: thank you
:yeah:
If I hunted and trapped WA and ID like I do in AK nothing would be safe! I dont think many people understand how many miles I put on my snow machines, 6x6, and wheelers ea season :chuckle: Litterally over 500 miles on 6x6 this season, 2300 on my snow machine trapping last season and close to 20k on my truck since Sept hunting and trapping this year. Until I lived here I never had to run in 60 miles from the nearest road to find even a small population of animals. Alaska has a lot of animals but its also a stupid big place. The population density here is horrible low. Honestly I plan on hunting and trapping down there as hard as I do up here and I'm going to kills some big critters! There's a reason people like Bones get monster mule deer ea year. Most people wouldn't believe him if he told you how far in he goes for those. My first year trapping there I plan on really hitting the cat. Figure most of you guys are running 3-12 box traps. I like to have 75-200 sets out at a time :chuckle: Big goals equal big catches, or broken backs :o :chuckle:
Post by: h20hunter on December 09, 2014, 01:59:17 PM
I really enjoy following this topic every year, thanks for taking the time to get all the photos and tell the stories. :tup:
I'd say one of the top few recurring yearly threads. Enjoy following along.
Post by: jackmaster on December 09, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on December 09, 2014, 08:11:09 PM
Well I will tell you what, hit me up when you get here if your up for hitn the Westside for cats, beaver,otter, or whatever is legal, iI can show you some spots that hold alot of fur, I wish it was legal to trap my lion, I would be all over that..
Grew up trapping from about 38th street to Kachees Lake and up a couple other drainages with my dad on Snoqualmi. Use to do really good on beaver and cat. In fact we caught basically as many beaver as we wanted to skin. Really don't ever plan on trapping WA again if I don't have to. Drives me crazy that I would have to pack cages around. I can carry 5 dozen snares in my pack and go!
Post by: TeacherMan on December 11, 2014, 10:00:01 AM
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Post by: jasnt on December 12, 2014, 09:06:46 PM
I love hunting and fishing but trapping takes the cake for me. Love spending time in the woods in the winter. We have less than 5 hrs of light right now up here so you have to be very intentional with your time. Pic of the sun setting in the woods and a reset I made after that silver tonight with a 1/16x19 camloc snare ;)love that top pic
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Post by: TeacherMan on January 11, 2015, 09:30:52 AM
Only in Alaska do you run a trap line the class room! :tup:
What do you mean they wouldn't do that in Seattle? Probable illegal lol.
Well had my first check yesterday and it was a little disappointing. I caught one squirrel and had something stolen out of one of my snares >:( by the lack of catch circle I'd guess a lynx which makes me more irritated. As if taking the animal wasn't enough they flagged my trail with marker tape. I'm a little stubborn, I didn't pull out of the area. I actually replaced the snare and added a second. It's on a main trail to one of my bait piles. Put a note on the trail not visible from the rd with AK state law notes on it and a reminder that now they are on multiple trail cameras so they should smile.
Post by: jackmaster on January 11, 2015, 01:27:45 PM
friggin theives, they are a little ballsey to be stealing way up there, its a great spot to disappear from the face of the earth.. I hate theives... WITH A PASSION!!!!Only in Alaska do you run a trap line the class room! :tup:
What do you mean they wouldn't do that in Seattle? Probable illegal lol.
Well had my first check yesterday and it was a little disappointing. I caught one squirrel and had something stolen out of one of my snares >:( by the lack of catch circle I'd guess a lynx which makes me more irritated. As if taking the animal wasn't enough they flagged my trail with marker tape. I'm a little stubborn, I didn't pull out of the area. I actually replaced the snare and added a second. It's on a main trail to one of my bait piles. Put a note on the trail not visible from the rd with AK state law notes on it and a reminder that now they are on multiple trail cameras so they should smile.
Post by: TeacherMan on January 12, 2015, 05:48:37 PM
Pick this nice red in a blind trail set. Pretty prime fur and awesome color!
Post by: Machias on January 12, 2015, 07:17:08 PM
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Post by: TeacherMan on January 15, 2015, 01:16:20 PM
what do you mean by hay sets teacherman?
Hey sets are the best K9 set there is :drool: :chuckle: Most K9s run your snow machine or ATV trails and this set makes it so you can set them quickly. I take hay (not straw to heavy, freezes easy and is yellow) and create piles that I put a whole in with bait or scent. sometimes both plus a shot of pee. These pics are not from me but the exact same thing I do. A guy I know in my area showed me this set and its dynamite; pics are from him. They keep your sets from freezing and make bedding a trap in nasty weather super easy and quick. I put most on drags so the animals get off the trail. Never set foot on the ground around the set either. Step from my snow machine into my sled. Once again we are in a strange winter. It was 42 this morning! Looks like I'm going to be back to my 6x6 checking my line :dunno:
Post by: TeacherMan on January 19, 2015, 02:42:14 PM
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I'm surprised the hay sets haven't produced yet
That's my lower elevation line didn't have any up high.
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Post by: TeacherMan on January 29, 2015, 07:27:35 AM
Holy crap thats cold, I got my first taste of cold like that a few weeks ago when I went to north Dakota but it wasn't negative 42 thats for sure :chuckle: how the well do you keep your machines running in those temps??
You never turn it off lol. Second you run different plugs in the Tundras and the new machines don't even notice. But we still hardly ever turn anything off.
Post by: TeacherMan on January 31, 2015, 05:11:21 PM
Loved this set, it's along a frozen stream. Fox are running up and down it. I put a #2 Bridger in the snow just in front of the tacks. You can see the tuft of grass I sprayed pee on also. The two small logs behind are cabled to the trap as a drag.
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Post by: pips4bucks on February 24, 2015, 08:58:39 AM
Little windy on the line today :o didn't get as much checked as I wanted didn't feel safe in the woods with falling branches. Be back at it tomorrow after church ;)
We spent a couple days in Wasilla a couple weeks ago and that trailer was the first thing we saw the day we arrived. :yike: We also saw where a section of roof got torn off of the Grandview hotel. Crazy wind! We've decided that we're not going to live IN the valley, but just outside, if we choose that area. :)
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