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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: timberghost72 on November 14, 2014, 11:44:29 AM

Title: AR triggers
Post by: timberghost72 on November 14, 2014, 11:44:29 AM: So I have upgraded my hunting rifles with Timney 3# triggers and now I want to upgrade my AR's with triggers. I was just thinking of going with Timney's but there are multiple brand options and single/dual stage. I would like to hear some suggestions on brand but more importantly I'd like to hear the pro's/cons of single vs dual stage triggers. Why use one over the other, what situations would one be better etc.. I have not shot a dual stage trigger so I have no reference to feel.

I have one Varmint AR and one carbine. Suggestions?
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: brianb231 on November 14, 2014, 12:07:17 PM: Interested :yeah:
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2014, 12:13:32 PM: I use 2 stage in a lot of my hunting AR's. The breaking weight of the 2 stage triggers is usually a lot less then the single stage triggers. For a defensive weapon or a quick shooter the single stages will preform better under rapid fire. For long range shooting the 2 stage triggers are hard to beat.

CMC makes some nice triggers as well as timney.

I have been using the ALG ACT for a lot of builds and putting them in clients rifles. They are not a bank breaker and they have been very good triggers. Most have been breaking right around 5.5-6 pounds.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: fly-by on November 14, 2014, 01:32:07 PM: I put a CMC single stage in mine and have been pleased. CMC uses tiny snap rings to keep the pins from walking, but they are challenging to install. I would install in a contained area so you have a chance of finding the ring if it flies off.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: ebusa on November 14, 2014, 01:46:53 PM: RRA National Match 2 stage triggers are very nice! Look up the reviews...

I have a new one new in the package if interested.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: skinzner on November 14, 2014, 01:59:59 PM: Ive done the alg act trigger with jp enterprises reduced power springs and a grip screw that has a allen screw inside of it that takes out the creep and its a huge improvement over a standard trigger.the grip screw can be found by googling ar15 trigger adjusters.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 14, 2014, 04:35:27 PM: Quote from: ebusa on November 14, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
RRA National Match 2 stage triggers are very nice! Look up the reviews...

I have a new one new in the package if interested.. :chuckle:

I agree , the RRA National Match 2 stage triggers are excellent triggers.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: timberghost72 on November 14, 2014, 05:34:38 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2014, 12:13:32 PM
I use 2 stage in a lot of my hunting AR's. The breaking weight of the 2 stage triggers is usually a lot less then the single stage triggers. For a defensive weapon or a quick shooter the single stages will preform better under rapid fire. For long range shooting the 2 stage triggers are hard to beat.

CMC makes some nice triggers as well as timney.

I have been using the ALG ACT for a lot of builds and putting them in clients rifles. They are not a bank breaker and they have been very good triggers. Most have been breaking right around 5.5-6 pounds.

This is what I was looking for, application of each trigger. So sounds like for my varmint rifle a 2 stage would be a prefered trigger and my zombie anihilator, a single stage. So now its up to brand of the trigger. Sounds like there are a few good ones out there. I'm on a budget so we'll have to see which one to go with. That and I need to find a place for some good varmint shooting. Not too much around my area.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: Bofire on November 14, 2014, 05:35:34 PM: I would make as close as possible to your other guns triggers.
Carl
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: timberghost72 on November 14, 2014, 05:43:09 PM: Quote from: Biggerhammer on November 14, 2014, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: ebusa on November 14, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
RRA National Match 2 stage triggers are very nice! Look up the reviews...

I have a new one new in the package if interested.. :chuckle:

I agree , the RRA National Match 2 stage triggers are excellent triggers.

These seem reasonably priced.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 14, 2014, 05:52:26 PM: I've got the 2 stage in my Rock River. I think I paid $125 installed for mine.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2014, 06:03:07 PM: Quote from: timberghost72 on November 14, 2014, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2014, 12:13:32 PM
I use 2 stage in a lot of my hunting AR's. The breaking weight of the 2 stage triggers is usually a lot less then the single stage triggers. For a defensive weapon or a quick shooter the single stages will preform better under rapid fire. For long range shooting the 2 stage triggers are hard to beat.

CMC makes some nice triggers as well as timney.

I have been using the ALG ACT for a lot of builds and putting them in clients rifles. They are not a bank breaker and they have been very good triggers. Most have been breaking right around 5.5-6 pounds.

This is what I was looking for, application of each trigger. So sounds like for my varmint rifle a 2 stage would be a prefered trigger and my zombie anihilator, a single stage. So now its up to brand of the trigger. Sounds like there are a few good ones out there. I'm on a budget so we'll have to see which one to go with. That and I need to find a place for some good varmint shooting. Not too much around my area.

The alg act will run about 65-70 and the rra 2 stage will run about 95-100.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: huntandjeep on November 15, 2014, 03:53:00 PM: OK dumb question how do you tell which pin size you need? My lower is an Olympic Arms .
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 15, 2014, 03:59:30 PM: Standard pins .154. Some of the older guns like colts use the bigger .170.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: jay.sharkbait on November 15, 2014, 06:10:38 PM: Quote from: Bofire on November 14, 2014, 05:35:34 PM
I would make as close as possible to your other guns triggers.
Carl

:yeah:
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: Craig on November 15, 2014, 06:52:24 PM: Geissele SD-E . Best trigger I have ever used. Have it on my varmint AR.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 15, 2014, 07:04:38 PM: Quote from: Craig on November 15, 2014, 06:52:24 PM
Geissele SD-E . Best trigger I have ever used. Have it on my varmint AR.

I've never paid that much attention to Geissele triggers until I just looked up the model you mentioned. I think I'm going to give it a try here soon. I like the first stage pull weight and the second. How does that second stage break?
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: timberghost72 on November 15, 2014, 08:03:46 PM: How do the flat triggers compare to the curved ones?
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: thinkingman on November 15, 2014, 08:32:05 PM: Quote from: Biggerhammer on November 14, 2014, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: ebusa on November 14, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
RRA National Match 2 stage triggers are very nice! Look up the reviews...

I have a new one new in the package if interested.. :chuckle:

I agree , the RRA National Match 2 stage triggers are excellent triggers.
Holy Schnikes!
BH and I agree for like, the second time!
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: Craig on November 15, 2014, 08:35:13 PM: 2nd stage breaks crisp . I like the flat trigger. Makes the weight feel less then it is.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 15, 2014, 08:40:17 PM: I have never done very well with flat triggers and sold the 2 that I had.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 15, 2014, 09:06:18 PM: Quote from: thinkingman on November 15, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
Quote from: Biggerhammer on November 14, 2014, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: ebusa on November 14, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
RRA National Match 2 stage triggers are very nice! Look up the reviews...

I have a new one new in the package if interested.. :chuckle:

I agree , the RRA National Match 2 stage triggers are excellent triggers.
Holy Schnikes!
BH and I agree for like, the second time!

There was a first time? :chuckle:
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: Hornseeker on November 17, 2014, 08:25:03 AM: Timely thread for me...
So for you guys that are pushing the limits on tiny little groups of holes at long distance... these 50-100$ triggers can get the job done? You dont have to spend $250 on the super ninja like models??
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 19, 2014, 02:58:08 PM: Timney 2 stage in my RRA.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: Special T on November 19, 2014, 03:17:11 PM: I belive the CMC triggers can be put in either the ar15 or AR10 platforms.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: zike on November 19, 2014, 05:37:07 PM: I did a search a couple of years ago and found a site that showed how to do a trigger job on an AR for no money. I worked on my AR 10 and it made a heck of an improvement. Its probably not as good as a single stage drop in trigger, but it's better then the OE trigger.

BTW whats the deal with 2 stage triggers, for hundreds of years the norm was a single stage triggers on sporting guns. I see no advantage to a 2 stage trigger.
Title: Re: AR triggers
Post by: Swag on November 20, 2014, 12:13:09 PM: I run 2 RRA stage triggers in my carbine rifles but I am a firm believer in the Jard single stage triggers as well. If you want a very light trigger 1/2-3 pound trigger for those longer shots, you can accomplish this using the jard triggers by simply purchasing the 4 pound trigger package, and simply purchasing the lower weight spring.