Post by: TeacherMan on December 18, 2008, 07:12:44 AM
Post by: Gobble on December 18, 2008, 07:17:36 AM
Post by: Crunchy on December 18, 2008, 07:22:14 AM
Post by: backyard bucks on December 18, 2008, 07:24:28 AM
they fly good for me but haven't had a chance to see what it does to an animal yet.. MAYBE TODAY :IBCOOL:
Post by: rougheye on December 18, 2008, 07:27:43 AM
Post by: archery288 on December 18, 2008, 07:43:22 AM
Post by: Jason on December 18, 2008, 07:55:05 AM
Post by: bowhuntin on December 18, 2008, 07:57:50 AM
Post by: Intruder on December 18, 2008, 08:01:57 AM
Post by: demontang on December 18, 2008, 08:05:04 AM
Post by: elkoholic on December 18, 2008, 09:00:15 AM
also shot -wac-ems, shuttles, and muzzy .. all great heads
properly tuned set up will always fly great....
Post by: Bearhunter on December 18, 2008, 09:09:15 AM
Post by: GoldTip on December 18, 2008, 09:09:57 AM
Post by: tmike on December 18, 2008, 09:19:37 AM
Post by: LongTatLaw on December 18, 2008, 09:30:56 AM
lol
what are friends for :bash:
ps- Ive been in Thunder Head 125's for over 50 deer and almost as many boar... many pass throughs... strong and fly well!
didnt do too bad on an elk last year either...
Post by: SpokaneSlayer on December 18, 2008, 09:34:17 AM
Post by: EastWaViking on December 18, 2008, 09:42:45 AM
Since I asked about arrows what broadheads are you guys using? I have always used 100 grain 3 or 4 blade muzzy's. They have never failed me, but is there something better?
I don't believe there is. I have used 100 gr. muzzy's for years, I switched to the Muzzy MX 3 this year and like them just as well as the original. I'd say stick with what works
for you!
Post by: huntnphool on December 18, 2008, 10:22:43 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on December 18, 2008, 10:24:42 AM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 18, 2008, 10:27:32 AM
Post by: huntnphool on December 18, 2008, 10:37:04 AM
Is that bull that already dropped?
Video taped Friday with head gear, shot Sunday without, still had bloody stumps.
The yellow color behind the shoulder is my arrow.
Post by: Gobble on December 18, 2008, 10:44:41 AM
Post by: huntnphool on December 18, 2008, 10:55:17 AM
Did you ever find the sheds?
Not yet, :'( I need a dog I think. Still working on getting the video off of my buddy's phone but it doesnt seem to work, any ideas guys?
Post by: EastWaViking on December 18, 2008, 11:54:29 AM
Did you ever find the sheds?
Not yet, :'( I need a dog I think.
You need a dog, some snow shoes and a big snow shovel now!
Post by: M_ray on December 18, 2008, 11:55:09 AM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on December 18, 2008, 12:15:16 PM
Bottom line is any broadhead will get the job done if placed in the kill zone. My only concern is how they will fly. These all flew good.
Post by: TeacherMan on December 18, 2008, 12:17:27 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 18, 2008, 12:32:36 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on December 18, 2008, 02:12:36 PM
My buddy shot his mx4 into a cinder block at 20yrds at 275fps and the broadhead was fine
Are the ferrules bent at all after the shot? I'd love to use a broadhead that I can shoot through an elk more than once and have it spin true. Sounds like I might need to try those out.
Post by: TeacherMan on December 18, 2008, 04:36:28 PM
Post by: boneaddict on December 18, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
Post by: Elkrunner on December 18, 2008, 05:08:50 PM
have always had good luck with the thunderheads. this year switched to the shuttle T'sI used to use thunderheads and changed to the Shuttle T's this year myself. Both my buddy and I put the smack down on some mulie does and they both only went 10 yards and keeled over. They also blead out really quick. I love em!
they fly good for me but haven't had a chance to see what it does to an animal yet.. MAYBE TODAY :IBCOOL:
Post by: backyard bucks on December 18, 2008, 05:11:22 PM
i like them so far. ha ha
Post by: TeacherMan on December 19, 2008, 09:16:17 AM
Post by: LOVHUNTIN on December 19, 2008, 09:47:24 AM
Post by: Intruder on December 19, 2008, 09:55:39 AM
My buddy shot his mx4 into a cinder block at 20yrds at 275fps and the broadhead was fine
I don't claim to be any expert on bow hunting and I freely admit have have limited experience... so I may be way out in left field. However, the one thing that sold me on Shuttle-T Locks was a similar type of thing. For what it's worth:
I saw a test were a local bow shop owner shot like 8 -12 different broadheads into a piece of sheet metal using the same arrows/bow/distance etc..... I'm assuming he didn't "rig" the test since he sells a wide variety of em. The differences in penetration and deformation between the various broadheads was pretty great. Some barely penetrated before completely deforming. Of the ones he shot, the Shuttle-T was the only one to completely penetrate and maintain it's overall structural integrity.
Again... not sure if that kind of terminal performance means anything within the context of killing w/ a bow but it's a main principal I believe very strongly in when it comes to bullet performance. The fact that they fly almost exactly like my field tips is really nice too.
Post by: huntnphool on December 19, 2008, 10:45:13 AM
Point being, with todays technology in archery gear you're going to be okay with any of them as long as you practice with them. Its still shot placement that determines the effectiveness of your gear. A well placed shot with a Beman/T-Head combo is going to work better than a poor placed shot with your top of the line FMJ/T-Locks. :twocents:
Post by: backyard bucks on December 19, 2008, 10:54:11 AM
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Well take this for what its worth, which may be nothing to you experts
NOW THAT WAS FUNNY! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
agree totally placement is key regardless of any weapon choice
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 19, 2008, 11:02:12 AM
Well take this for what its worth, which may be nothing to you experts. I have taken loads of animals with the 85 TH's. I am not a giant and am not pulling 75+ lbs like a lot of you guys. So many look at my arrows and broadhead and laugh, but at 380 grams total weight I have plenty of meat in my freezer and bone on the wall and floor of the garage to make most jealous. I am proud to be able to say that all my kills have been with one shot, even the one I lost but found the next week.
Point being, with todays technology in archery gear you're going to be okay with any of them as long as you practice with them. Its still shot placement that determines the effectiveness of your gear. A well placed shot with a Beman/T-Head combo is going to work better than a poor placed shot with your top of the line FMJ/T-Locks. :twocents:
That is 100% correct.... as long as the heads are tuned properly it is all just preferance.... I prefer the muzzy 4 blade for the damage they have done on my elk and the deer I have shot with them... nothing put a more massive hole or did more damage.... but all the other heads I have shot game with still had the same end result..... dead animal...
Post by: Gobble on December 19, 2008, 11:17:11 AM
That is 100% correct.... as long as the heads are tuned properly it is all just preferance.... I prefer the muzzy 4 blade for the damage they have done on my elk and the deer I have shot with them... nothing put a more massive hole or did more damage.... but all the other heads I have shot game with still had the same end result..... dead animal...
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Couldn't agree with you more. It's all about preference and what you shoot good and consistant. The next single important thing is sharpness of the BH. If you use a dull BH it may push a artery to the side as it passes thru instead of cutting it. You should always make sure whatever BH your using is as sharp as it can be.
Post by: Intruder on December 19, 2008, 12:19:40 PM
Point being, with todays technology in archery gear you're going to be okay with any of them as long as you practice with them. Its still shot placement that determines the effectiveness of your gear. A well placed shot with a Beman/T-Head combo is going to work better than a poor placed shot with your top of the line FMJ/T-Locks. :twocents:
I hope folks didn't take my post as some kind of statement that Shuttle Ts are the end all and all the others are piss and you're a fool if you're not shooting Shuttle Ts. My intention was just to relate the objective reasoning I chose a particular head. I couldn't agree more w/ the sentiment that a well placed shot is far more important than what you shoot.
Post by: fc2038 on December 19, 2008, 06:58:46 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 19, 2008, 07:24:13 PM
Post by: archery288 on December 19, 2008, 07:30:31 PM
After saying all that... Here is what I think about Muzzy's... :puke: :chuckle: (Just for you Paul! :chuckle: )
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 19, 2008, 08:14:33 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on December 19, 2008, 08:30:43 PM
Post by: backyard bucks on December 19, 2008, 09:24:06 PM
i just had to continue it too.
Post by: Kanooper on December 19, 2008, 09:38:01 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 19, 2008, 09:49:31 PM
HA i have a couple hoyts for the opener of trout season to anchor up the boat. at least they work good for that.. hee hee hee :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
i just had to continue it too.
opener of trout season? I didnt know thats something to get excited about! thats bait...... :chuckle:
Post by: robb92 on December 19, 2008, 09:51:05 PM
Post by: backyard bucks on December 19, 2008, 09:58:30 PM
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opener of trout season? I didnt know thats something to get excited about! thats bait......
good point!! i hate it when that happens... :chuckle:
Post by: M_ray on December 19, 2008, 10:29:32 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on December 19, 2008, 10:36:00 PM
I am with huntnphool and some of the other here ... Most of you would get the same results from several of these broadheads on the market as long as the placement was there! That said I am no expert either but I have taken 9 animals with a bow since I started hunting and all with a thunderhead 100 ... now I'm not telling you that cause I think they are the best but because as a personal preference it's all I've ever used and I'm comfortable with them. To me it's kinda of like my steelheading ... use what you have the most confidence in, and you'll have great results! Also I'm a geezer and I am afraid if I change something I'll be going back to the drawing board and starting all over ... I know what has done me well in the past and I stick with it! Just ask Jon (archery288) how long I fussed over changing to carbons a couple of years ago! :rolleyes: I think I asked every question and even some that didn't have anything to do with arrows before I was convinced to try some :dunno: Thanks again Jon for putting up with me :chuckle:
If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Well said M_ray.
Post by: PA BEN on December 20, 2008, 07:11:36 AM
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Post by: 280ackley on December 20, 2008, 07:28:03 AM
Post by: PolarBear on December 20, 2008, 08:16:09 AM
Post by: PA BEN on December 20, 2008, 08:29:21 AM
I used 100 gr. Thunderheads for years but some folks on here convinced me to try 4 blade slick tricks. I haven't shot an animal with them yet but I love the way that they fly. They are much more accurate that my old T-Heads without having to tune them.Can you just screw them on and don't worry about how they line up with your fletch?
Post by: PolarBear on December 20, 2008, 08:52:01 AM
Post by: bullcanyon on December 20, 2008, 09:41:38 AM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 20, 2008, 09:49:11 AM
Post by: Slider on December 20, 2008, 04:18:59 PM
http://www.germankineticsusa.com/
They don't leave much of a blood trail BUT they dont fall far from the tree!!!........... :chuckle:
Post by: bullcanyon on December 20, 2008, 04:47:59 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on December 20, 2008, 05:06:52 PM
If you ask me that is kind of like putting a set of $6000.00 dollar rims on an '83 buick regal. :dunno:
Post by: PA BEN on December 20, 2008, 05:21:46 PM
Post by: Charlie on December 20, 2008, 07:37:05 PM
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I love my slick tricks . They fly perfect , never had a flyer and they make huge holes+1
Post by: ridgefire on December 20, 2008, 08:54:05 PM
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Post by: blindpig on December 21, 2008, 05:13:46 PM
Post by: rooselk on December 21, 2008, 08:57:17 PM
Post by: Slider on December 23, 2008, 06:12:55 AM
I sure hope they don't run out before I can refinance everything I own to purchase a 1 pack.
If you ask me that is kind of like putting a set of $6000.00 dollar rims on an '83 buick regal. :dunno:
The broadhead is the most important piece of archery equipment you should own?
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 23, 2008, 10:20:51 AM
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Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 23, 2008, 12:37:56 PM
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Post by: Antlershed on December 23, 2008, 01:12:19 PM
Post by: jdb on December 23, 2008, 05:54:52 PM
My buddy in california loves slick tric.. I have not shot them myself, and I cant not say anything about the old muzzys, my first BR were good ol innerloc 125 way back in the day, You wernt alive way back in the day. JB
Post by: Jason on December 23, 2008, 09:31:45 PM
I wouldnt say its the most important, id say a good accurate, reliable bow would be, without the bow being able to put the arrow where it needs to be it doesnt matter what broadhead you havedoesn't matter how reliable or accurate the bow is if you don't have a accurate shooter that can put the arrow where it needs be effective, just as the shooter and the bow are no good if you can't kill a animal quickly and humanely with a good sharp broadhead, they all go hand in hand with each other,it's the shooters responsibility to have all his equipment be accurate and reliable.
Post by: cascademountainhunter on December 23, 2008, 09:34:04 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 23, 2008, 10:27:11 PM
I wouldnt say its the most important, id say a good accurate, reliable bow would be, without the bow being able to put the arrow where it needs to be it doesnt matter what broadhead you havedoesn't matter how reliable or accurate the bow is if you don't have a accurate shooter that can put the arrow where it needs be effective, just as the shooter and the bow are no good if you can't kill a animal quickly and humanely with a good sharp broadhead, they all go hand in hand with each other,it's the shooters responsibility to have all his equipment be accurate and reliable.
essentially that was my point, it doesnt matter how well of a shooter you are if your bow is not reliable.... things happen... your bow comes out of time before a hunt, you drop it and a lesser bow breaks something etc..... the person behind it was a given ....
Post by: SHANE(WA) on December 24, 2008, 10:46:05 PM
Post by: SpokaneSlayer on December 24, 2008, 10:50:29 PM
Post by: Grizzly95 on December 24, 2008, 10:59:58 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 25, 2008, 12:03:26 PM
Post by: Jason on December 25, 2008, 01:54:09 PM
the mx3 also has the biggest cut on contact entry hole you can find... 1 1/4 inG5 striker magnum and Tekan both have a 1 1/2" cutting diameter, not sure how they fly.
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 25, 2008, 06:24:30 PM
Post by: Jason on December 25, 2008, 09:11:39 PM
The tekan is a open on imapact head.. im refering to fixed bladesI knew that i don't know why i put that in there.Triton XL also have a 1 1/4" cut.
does the MX3 fly better than the Muzzy 3 blade?
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 26, 2008, 10:45:02 AM
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Post by: rosscrazyelk on January 31, 2009, 08:18:56 PM
Post by: Tom Tamer on February 01, 2009, 09:25:00 PM
Love them :)
Post by: bowhunterforever on February 01, 2009, 09:39:48 PM
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Post by: Little Dave on February 21, 2009, 09:33:06 PM
When not in Washington, anybody have a favorite expandable broadhead? Going down to Texas in a few days to take down a few boars there. Cant wait!!! Rage seems to be a preferred design.
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on February 22, 2009, 11:19:40 AM
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Post by: btlsoom on March 01, 2009, 07:08:59 PM
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