Post by: Machias on November 21, 2014, 06:50:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRuxCMhvl84&sns=fb (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRuxCMhvl84&sns=fb)
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 21, 2014, 07:14:57 AM
Post by: wolfbait on November 21, 2014, 10:35:52 AM
How long will it take WDFW to finally admit the impact wolves have and are having on WA game herds?
Post by: boneaddict on November 21, 2014, 10:45:38 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 21, 2014, 10:48:39 AM
Post by: jasnt on November 21, 2014, 10:49:55 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on November 21, 2014, 10:52:32 AM
Probably less time than it will take some sportsmen to realize wolves are far less of an impact to the future of hunting than things like loss of access and habitat.
How long will it take WDFW to finally admit the impact wolves have and are having on WA game herds?
Post by: KFhunter on November 21, 2014, 10:56:07 AM
Probably less time than it will take some sportsmen to realize wolves are far less of an impact to the future of hunting than things like loss of access and habitat.
How long will it take WDFW to finally admit the impact wolves have and are having on WA game herds?
Wolf impact will come first and derail any habitat and access concerns.
Post by: wolfbait on November 21, 2014, 11:05:03 AM
Probably less time than it will take some sportsmen to realize wolves are far less of an impact to the future of hunting than things like loss of access and habitat.
How long will it take WDFW to finally admit the impact wolves have and are having on WA game herds?
Spoken like a "new age" biologist, it's not predation, it's habitat----Are you a reservation biologist Idahohunter?
Post by: idahohuntr on November 21, 2014, 11:09:51 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 21, 2014, 11:12:10 AM
I could not have videoed that with out shooting that deer with my 3rd shot
I was waiting for the shot.
Post by: KFhunter on November 21, 2014, 11:20:47 AM
I could not have videoed that with out shooting that deer with my 3rd shot
I was waiting for the shot.
According to the comments the guy filming was/is an oil field worker in Canada, not allowed to have a gun on the job site.
Knowing some oil field workers I know this to be true - no weapons allowed. The radio chatter also fits in with that.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 21, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on November 21, 2014, 11:25:41 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 21, 2014, 11:38:05 AM
Post by: AspenBud on November 21, 2014, 06:31:27 PM
Habitat loss is a red herring that the people who love wolves like to throw out there to deflect attention from the damage wolves do. It's as if they're saying "since there's habitat loss, you shouldn't pay attention to the damage the wolves are doing at all". Nice try! Habitat loss will always be a major problem. Until our population stop growing, it will continue to be a major problem. Wolves are also a major problem. We can do something about them. :hunter: Just sayin'. There are two things we can do - manage wolves and close our borders so illegals stop pouring into our country.
Wolves don't matter without habitat. Period.
Post by: AspenBud on November 21, 2014, 06:33:17 PM
A few years ago, the government of Alberta decided that 6,000 wolves needed to be culled to bring the population under control. I wonder how far they got with that?
They did that because of increasing deer numbers that were increasing the wolf population and putting pressure on caribou. How did that happen? Mineral development changed the...habitat.
Post by: AspenBud on November 21, 2014, 06:36:21 PM
Thanks for posting Machias :tup: These are the sort of videos the public needs to see, it shows the wolves in their natural state. Not quite the cute cuddle wolf that pro-wolfers like to advertise.
Do you get cable? Seriously, stuff like this gets shown on quite a few nature documentaries dealing with wolves. I really don't think you understand the audience you have to deal with.
Post by: villageidiot on November 21, 2014, 09:49:38 PM
Post by: mulehunter on November 21, 2014, 10:04:08 PM
Post by: csaaphill on November 21, 2014, 10:12:14 PM
Man hearing him bleat out like that just sent crys of agony to me knowing he's suffering like that. Oil worker law or not break the law and do the humane thing.
Think I'd of shot the wolves or at least shot at them to scare them off. If deer wasnt' too badly hurt I'd of tryed to help it to safety and or shoot it out of compassion.
you can see him looking to see what they were doing at first at that point he may of lives who knows but still I couldn't sit there and do nothing I dont think.
as for the wolf statements they already are making impacts on the deer and elk herds at least that's what Im seeing around here.
If it's not then its the bears and cougers and other predators that we can't hunt with dogs any more so their numbers are becoming a burden on deer and elk.
Antis dream there!
Post by: 100 grain on November 21, 2014, 10:29:52 PM
Post by: GameHunter1959 on November 22, 2014, 12:20:48 AM
This is exactly why this whole wolf issue is going to spiral out of control. The western states should have never reintroduced wolves into Yellowstone. This will boil over sooner than later.
Post by: AspenBud on November 22, 2014, 09:39:19 AM
Hate the wolf debate idea so I stay away from it....but like jasnt said-3 shots and the 3rd being for the sympathy for the deer. Sad situation. >:( Hey wolf lovers not the pretty photo on a postcard or some framed painting you see at the mall now is it!!??
They probably have the same reaction that the guys who filmed this did.
Bear Kills Moose (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JVkaMqD5mI#)
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on November 23, 2014, 08:50:26 AM
Somewhere a while back I remember seeing where someone on here was talking them up over habitat issues????
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Post by: trophyhunt on November 23, 2014, 09:22:38 AM