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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: DJ_Mack on November 23, 2014, 09:31:43 PM

Title: Muzzleload for deer, but extra carry for grouse?
Post by: DJ_Mack on November 23, 2014, 09:31:43 PM: Is it legal to carry your shotgun for grouse while you muzzy hunt for deer? I'm goin on my first muzzy hunt with my father in law this coming weekend and I wanted to combine hunts.
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Post by: ghosthunter on November 23, 2014, 09:38:13 PM: No law again it.

Better to carry a 22 pistol for the grouse.
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Post by: kevinlisa06 on November 23, 2014, 09:40:11 PM: Honestly I don't think you can IMO unless you are using shot in a muzzle pistol but I might be wrong. If it was me I would call fish n game.

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Post by: Bango skank on November 23, 2014, 09:40:29 PM: Sounds cumbersome
Title: Muzzleload for deer, but extra carry for grouse?
Post by: bobcat on November 23, 2014, 09:43:06 PM: I don't see any reason why you couldn't. But are you talking about just having a shotgun in your vehicle, or are you going to carry two guns while hunting?
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Post by: DJ_Mack on November 23, 2014, 09:53:40 PM: Thanks for the quick responses. I didn't even think about a .22 handgun. I will just bring that. Thanks guys.
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Post by: Bob33 on November 23, 2014, 09:56:01 PM: I wouldn't have both in my possession while in the field. Leave one in the truck and hunt one specie at a time. Legal or not, it may well cause you grief if checked.

As for a handgun, "A modern handgun may be carried for personal protection." You may have a difficult time explaining how shooting grouse is necessary for personal protection.
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Post by: DJ_Mack on November 23, 2014, 10:04:58 PM: Quote from: Bob33 on November 23, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
I wouldn't have both in my possession while in the field. Leave one in the truck and hunt one specie at a time. Legal or not, it may well cause you grief if checked.

As for a handgun, "A modern handgun may be carried for personal protection." You may have a difficult time explaining how shooting grouse is necessary for personal protection.

Both make sense, but at the same time there are lots of animals in the woods and if its legal to shoot, why would they give you a hard time? Especially if my shotgun had light bird loads in it.

Is it illegal to shoot grouse with a handgun? Because if its not that should be fine also? Correct?
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Post by: Bob33 on November 23, 2014, 10:17:44 PM: Quote from: DJ_Mack on November 23, 2014, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: Bob33 on November 23, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
I wouldn't have both in my possession while in the field. Leave one in the truck and hunt one specie at a time. Legal or not, it may well cause you grief if checked.

As for a handgun, "A modern handgun may be carried for personal protection." You may have a difficult time explaining how shooting grouse is necessary for personal protection.

Both make sense, but at the same time there are lots of animals in the woods and if its legal to shoot, why would they give you a hard time? Especially if my shotgun had light bird loads in it.

Is it illegal to shoot grouse with a handgun? Because if its not that should be fine also? Correct?
They may give you a hard time because they believe you are breaking the law. Right or wrong, you have to decide if it is worth that risk. I know officers that would cite a hunter for using a handgun to hunt while muzzleloader hunting for deer.

It is not illegal to hunt grouse with a handgun. It is illegal to carry a handgun while muzzleloader hunting for purposes other than personal protection, in the eyes of some officers.
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Post by: Smokepole on November 24, 2014, 07:53:42 AM: The regs say a modern handgun may be carried for personal protection, but they can't be used to hunt big game or dispatch wounded big game animals during black powder season. Doesn't say whether or not you can pop a grouse with your .22 while you are out hunting.

I would talk to your local game warden. The law leaves a lot up to his/her interpretation, looks like to me. :twocents:
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Post by: Stein on November 24, 2014, 08:26:57 AM: I would feel much more comfortable with the .22 pistol than trying to explain the shotgun. Plus, it weighs about 7# less.
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Post by: Hunterman on November 24, 2014, 09:02:29 AM: Why don't you talk to your father in law. He might not want you to screw up the hunt shooting grouse. I know I wouldn't.

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Post by: boneaddict on November 24, 2014, 09:08:29 AM: :yeah: That would infuriate me.
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Post by: floatinghat on November 29, 2014, 08:44:09 AM: I had that very conversation on the pheasant opener. My hunting Buddy did not see an issue during modern. I didn't want him to mess my deer hunt for a pheasant. He tagged out early with a nice buck. We went to different places, I ended up passing until late in the season.
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Post by: Jonathan_S on November 29, 2014, 09:04:12 AM: Quote from: boneaddict on November 24, 2014, 09:08:29 AM
:yeah: That would infuriate me.

I have hunted with a guy who is awesome except he can't help but shoot at grouse while he's deer hunting. Don't get me wrong, enjoy grouse as much as anyone but I'm not going to try to decapitate one with a .270 Winchester :yike:
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Post by: sneakyjake on November 29, 2014, 09:15:38 AM: Seems like we should be teaching new hunters to obey the law, not fear the law officer. If an old salt seems to think that you are in danger of being cited/arrested by an acquaintance for legally enjoying your hunt then he should confront that law and have it improved upon. Don't worry whether or not anyone here cares if you are going to hunt differently then they do. That is between you and those you hunt with. Have fun, I shoot them all the time, but I mostly bow hunt.
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Post by: Smokepole on November 29, 2014, 09:19:20 AM: It's a good idea to shoot a lot when hunting deer. Deer can be gunshy, so you got to keep them acclimated. They get used to hearing those guns go off, then pretty soon they'll walk right up to you & you can feed them apples by hand. :chuckle:
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Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2014, 09:34:26 AM: :chuckle:
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Post by: Smokepole on November 29, 2014, 11:36:27 AM: That's how Boneaddict gets all those good pictures... :chuckle:
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Post by: theshade on November 29, 2014, 11:51:00 AM: Carry the judge in 45lc/410. :tup: