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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: Jellymon on December 03, 2014, 04:38:59 PM

Title: Cool elk video- 1yrd bow shot
Post by: Jellymon on December 03, 2014, 04:38:59 PM: This is what bowhunting is about!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=InScYVAg_BQ
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Post by: nukemduke on December 03, 2014, 05:01:13 PM: Wow! That is amazing, can't believe how close that bull is!
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Post by: The scout on December 03, 2014, 05:08:36 PM: very cool! there is no rush like getting a bull that close
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Post by: grundy53 on December 03, 2014, 05:13:41 PM: Awesome!
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Post by: Jonathan_S on December 03, 2014, 05:17:32 PM: I shot a dink bull at about that far this September... he was moving much faster though. Scariest thing of my hunting career. More so than a bluff charge by a black bear.
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Post by: Jonathan_S on December 03, 2014, 05:20:23 PM: Gorgeous bull and great composure by the hunter :tup:
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Post by: Tbob on December 04, 2014, 01:58:29 PM: Cool video. One yard shot and no pass through! Tough critters for sure!
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Post by: D-Rock425 on December 04, 2014, 02:13:21 PM: I may be wrong but at 1 yd i dont think your arrow is traveling with all its kinetic energy yet.
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Post by: Bean Counter on December 04, 2014, 02:34:05 PM: Quote from: Tbob on December 04, 2014, 01:58:29 PM
Cool video. One yard shot and no pass through! Tough critters for sure!

:yeah: I put two arrows into elk this year and neither passed through. This makes me feel a lot better.
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Post by: Bean Counter on December 04, 2014, 02:34:56 PM: Quote from: D-Rock425 on December 04, 2014, 02:13:21 PM
I may be wrong but at 1 yd i dont think your arrow is traveling with all its kinetic energy yet.

Physics is not my strong suit. Can you please explain this concept a little more?
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Post by: RadSav on December 04, 2014, 02:55:31 PM: Quote from: D-Rock425 on December 04, 2014, 02:13:21 PM
I may be wrong but at 1 yd i dont think your arrow is traveling with all its kinetic energy yet.

Has all it's kinetic energy, just not all mass is lined up with the axis of the arrow. Penetration is generally better at 25 yards than it is at 2 or 3 yards.

Looks to me as though the arrow hit the opposite shoulder. Arrow is moving a good bit as he runs off. More than just being the muscles on the entrance side. Dang fine shot for being so close and on the move :tup:
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Post by: npaull on December 04, 2014, 04:34:34 PM: Quote
I may be wrong but at 1 yd i dont think your arrow is traveling with all its kinetic energy yet.

The arrow starts LOSING kinetic energy the microsecond it leaves the string. It is at its absolute fastest at that exact instant when it leaves the string and starts to slow down immediately.

So it doesn't in fact have all its kinetic energy - it's losing it steadily.
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Post by: jkthomps on December 04, 2014, 08:16:02 PM: That is a great video. Nice!
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Post by: Jonathan_S on December 04, 2014, 08:24:26 PM: Quote from: npaull on December 04, 2014, 04:34:34 PM
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I may be wrong but at 1 yd i dont think your arrow is traveling with all its kinetic energy yet.

The arrow starts LOSING kinetic energy the microsecond it leaves the string. It is at its absolute fastest at that exact instant when it leaves the string and starts to slow down immediately.

So it doesn't in fact have all its kinetic energy - it's losing it steadily.

technically correct but he's right in a practical sense because the arrow isn't stabilized yet and doesn't have the penetration capability of what it has at 20 yards. Like what RAD was saying.
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Post by: RadSav on December 04, 2014, 08:48:25 PM: Duke Savora used to use the term "Sectional Density" in regards to this phenomenon. Basically making a point that, like a bullet, as the diameter of a bullet increases the weight behind it must increase accordingly to achieve the same penetration. Simplified it is the distribution of mass around the axis that focuses energy for penetration. If a quarter inch diameter arrow is in a state of yaw or flex the true orientation of the arrows mass could be an inch in diameter. Even more if distance is extremely close to the bow or the spine is light for weight. As the arrow stabilizes the yaw and/or flex is reduced improving the Sectional Density and ultimately penetration within the boundary of what energy has not been spent. Was always an interesting discussion when Duke explained his understanding of the art and science!
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Post by: h2ofowlr on December 05, 2014, 07:31:44 AM: Close encounter for sure. Cool video.
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Post by: elkoholic1 on December 05, 2014, 07:47:48 AM: :tup:
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 05, 2014, 03:13:00 PM: Now that's sweet ..I think the music is stupid though :chuckle:
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Post by: sakoshooter on December 05, 2014, 07:59:17 PM: Cool hunt