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Title: TC contender questions
Post by: LittleJohn on December 04, 2014, 09:35:41 AM
Hey guys
I have an older Contender Pistol and am wondering if they make a stock for them to make it into a rifle. Wanting it for trap line and maybe my 9 year old can shoot it with the right stock.
Thanks
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: jackelope on December 04, 2014, 09:37:28 AM
Hey guys
I have an older Contender Pistol and am wondering if they make a stock for them to make it into a rifle. Wanting it for trap line and maybe my 9 year old can shoot it with the right stock.
Thanks

http://www.eabco.net/Contender-Stocks_c_2841.html (http://www.eabco.net/Contender-Stocks_c_2841.html)

One thing to look at, check out the Choate folder.  I've seen one on an Encore....it would pretty darn slick especially for your intentions.
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: runningboard on December 04, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
I got mine from gunstocksinc.com and had them install good recoil pads before they sent them to me and I had them made in a custom shorter length of pull when my kids were 8 and 11, turned out very nice and my little 11 year-old niece is using one of them now and when she grows out of it I'll have it for my grandkids. with the extra short LOP I had extra holes drilled and tapped forward of the others so I could mount a scope further forward to allow the shooter to put their head in the right position instead of having to lean back to see through a scope. I have bull barrels on mine.
be aware however that once you put a buttstock on it, it then has to have at least a 16' barrel to be legal. you cannot have a buttstock with a pistol length barrel.
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: LittleJohn on December 04, 2014, 09:49:20 AM
awesome guys! Thanks
I might look at the m4 style, i have a 6 and 9 year old and would be great for the trap line. I need to check regs here in Montana and find out about barrel length with stock
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: LittleJohn on December 04, 2014, 09:58:40 AM
Doesn't look like there are any barrel length or caliber restrictions to worry about in MT  :tup:
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: mountainman on December 04, 2014, 10:15:10 AM
Barrel length minimum is 16". Not a Montana thing, a federal law.
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: LittleJohn on December 04, 2014, 10:21:11 AM
Barrel length minimum is 16". Not a Montana thing, a federal law.

educate me,
MT says under 10 1/2" in considered pistol

I have a 14" heavy barrel in .223
Can I put a stock on it and let my kids shoot it legally
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: runningboard on December 04, 2014, 11:34:12 AM
i found a "federal firearms laws" page on the net and it shows under "prohibited firearms and ammo"
Short Barrel Rifle, barrel length less than 16 inches or overall length less than 26 inches
on the buttstock I got directly from T/C it says right on the buttplate/pad embossed on it, do not use with barrel length less than 16", I may still have that buttplate since I replaced it with a recoil pad. I'll look when I get home later.
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: jackelope on December 04, 2014, 12:03:45 PM

on the buttstock I got directly from T/C it says right on the buttplate/pad embossed on it, do not use with barrel length less than 16", I may still have that buttplate since I replaced it with a recoil pad. I'll look when I get home later.


That would be a frame that started life at the factory as a rifle.
John's is a pistol from the factory so that doesn't hold true. He can put a pistol length barrel on it as long as it doesn't have a shoulder stock on it. Once it has a shoulder stock on it, it's a rifle.
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 04, 2014, 12:07:17 PM
 :yeah: That is 100% correct.
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: headshot5 on December 04, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
Quote
That is 100% correct.

Of course it is... It's on the internet!   :chuckle:
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: boneaddict on December 04, 2014, 12:19:25 PM
So I have a 14inch barreled contender.  As long as I put a stock on it greater than 12 inches I would be ok?(total length greater than 26)
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: jackelope on December 04, 2014, 12:23:17 PM
So I have a 14inch barreled contender.  As long as I put a stock on it greater than 12 inches I would be ok?(total length greater than 26)

No, it has to be both. Barrel over 16" and overall length greater than 26".
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: boneaddict on December 04, 2014, 12:29:03 PM
Thank you
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: runningboard on December 04, 2014, 05:06:00 PM

on the buttstock I got directly from T/C it says right on the buttplate/pad embossed on it, do not use with barrel length less than 16", I may still have that buttplate since I replaced it with a recoil pad. I'll look when I get home later.


That would be a frame that started life at the factory as a rifle.
John's is a pistol from the factory so that doesn't hold true. He can put a pistol length barrel on it as long as it doesn't have a shoulder stock on it. Once it has a shoulder stock on it, it's a rifle.
that's what the buttplate came off of is a rifle buttstock, if you read my 1st post that's what I said to him.
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: jackelope on December 04, 2014, 05:10:32 PM

on the buttstock I got directly from T/C it says right on the buttplate/pad embossed on it, do not use with barrel length less than 16", I may still have that buttplate since I replaced it with a recoil pad. I'll look when I get home later.


That would be a frame that started life at the factory as a rifle.
John's is a pistol from the factory so that doesn't hold true. He can put a pistol length barrel on it as long as it doesn't have a shoulder stock on it. Once it has a shoulder stock on it, it's a rifle.
that's what the buttplate came off of is a rifle buttstock, if you read my 1st post that's what I said to him.

Gotcha. What I meant to say was that a Contender pistol from the factory won't say that. Totally legal to bounce back and forth between rifle and pistol barrels on a factory original pistol. Totally not legal to do it with a factory original rifle frame. The only physical difference between the 2 would be the serial number.
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: yorketransport on December 04, 2014, 08:26:52 PM

Gotcha. What I meant to say was that a Contender pistol from the factory won't say that. Totally legal to bounce back and forth between rifle and pistol barrels on a factory original pistol. Totally not legal to do it with a factory original rifle frame. The only physical difference between the 2 would be the serial number.

 :yeah:

I was pretty happy when the BATFE made this decision back in 2011. Before then it was open to interpretation by the agents. For now, once a pistol always a pistol. :tup:

Andrew
Title: Re: TC contender questions
Post by: gemihur on January 11, 2016, 08:36:47 AM
John,
Send your barrel off to David White.
http://www.dandtcustomgunworks.websitetoolbox.com/post/tc-contenders-encores-7271180?pid=1285971895
He will fix up your super 14 to be perfectly legal while using the buttstock.
I highly recommend him.
Jimmy in va
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