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Title: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: NW-GSP on December 05, 2014, 06:06:38 PM
http://mudmotorkit.com/index.php/mud-motor-kits.html (http://mudmotorkit.com/index.php/mud-motor-kits.html)

I'm looking into getting a job boat to hunt the marshes and rivers in the west side. Would a outboard with a jet pump work better then a muddmotor?.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: T Pearce on December 05, 2014, 06:19:30 PM
Pumps dont like the weeds.
Props dont like the rocks.

I was running a mudmotor in the potholes way before they became popular, and outboard pumps before that.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: NW-GSP on December 05, 2014, 06:45:25 PM
Where I will be hunting its marsh and sloughs that are mudd
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: lokidog on December 05, 2014, 11:57:32 PM
So that thing just attaches to a lawnmower type engine with the proper shaft?  Interesting.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: NW-GSP on December 06, 2014, 04:55:11 AM
So that thing just attaches to a lawnmower type engine with the proper shaft?  Interesting.

yes correct, YouTube muddmotor,
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: Pnwrider on December 06, 2014, 07:50:35 AM
No matter which way you go it's going to be a compromise. Jets are inefficient but the peace of mind is worth it for me. I can count at least twice this season I would've been in trouble had I been running a prop. I don't see many people running mud motors out here, I've seen one to be exact and if I see him at the ramp I'll ask him about it.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: constructeur on December 06, 2014, 10:41:17 AM
So that thing just attaches to a lawnmower type engine with the proper shaft?  Interesting.

That plus a cheap Craigslist Honda motor or one of the Harbor Freight Chinese Honda knock offs, and one of those smaller beavertail boats would be a treat.  :tup:
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: NW-GSP on December 06, 2014, 04:52:56 PM
So that thing just attaches to a lawnmower type engine with the proper shaft?  Interesting.

That plus a cheap Craigslist Honda motor or one of the Harbor Freight Chinese Honda knock offs, and one of those smaller beavertail boats would be a treat.  :tup:

that's what I'm thinking, I'm thinking about building a boat similar to a beavertail.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: lokidog on December 06, 2014, 05:55:51 PM
So that thing just attaches to a lawnmower type engine with the proper shaft?  Interesting.

That plus a cheap Craigslist Honda motor or one of the Harbor Freight Chinese Honda knock offs, and one of those smaller beavertail boats would be a treat.  :tup:

that's what I'm thinking, I'm thinking about building a boat similar to a beavertail.

 :yeah:  Except I'm not building a boat at the moment....   :chuckle:
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: Badhabit on December 06, 2014, 06:15:58 PM
With motors you get what you pay for. Cheap is cheap. If you want to go mud motor stick with a well known brand. Time  and battle tested. Sure you may pay more maybe a lot more, but reliability and confidence I won't have a .02 cent part break sure helps me when I paid for my motor.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: Skillet on December 06, 2014, 06:37:21 PM
 :yeah: A lawn mower breaking down isn't quite the day-ruiner that your boat's only motor breaking down would be.  You can usually find a good used Briggs Vanguard v-twin for a very fair price if you're willing to look for a bit.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: lokidog on December 06, 2014, 06:46:25 PM
Yep, even going with a Honda or a Briggs, you are still a lot cheaper than an outboard.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: NW-GSP on December 06, 2014, 06:51:35 PM
I'm kinda weighing my options and my wallet  :chuckle:
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: Skillet on December 06, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
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Yep, even going with a Honda or a Briggs, you are still a lot cheaper than an outboard.
And I believe you have a really good handle on what an outboard costs!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: NW-GSP on December 06, 2014, 06:56:29 PM
I wouldn't mind having a 16' jonboat and have a outboard for it for fishing and a muddmotor for duck hunting.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: Skillet on December 06, 2014, 07:15:26 PM
To swap the motors for each use, right?  I'd think I'd get annoyed with the mud motor on the boat while fishing.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: NW-GSP on December 06, 2014, 07:17:09 PM
To swap the motors for each use, right?  I'd think I'd get annoyed with the mud motor on the boat while fishing.

yes, that would be annoying. I would swap them out.
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: saltwaterhillbilly on December 07, 2014, 10:35:06 AM
To swap the motors for each use, right?  I'd think I'd get annoyed with the mud motor on the boat while fishing.

yes, that would be annoying. I would swap them out.


If i may chime in a long tail will get you where you need to go but at a slow pace they are not built for speed and will wear you out with no trim, i run a 23 hp Surface Drive on a 14 foot with power trim, you can haul a load and a buddy and i run 28 mph by myself, 20 mph with a buddy and dog, i litterally run a inch or so of water over sand, rocks mudflats have hit stumps, you name it on a plane and it defintly lives up to its name sufrace drive, if  your looking for long tail mayhem mudmotor is affordable and have some reliable do it yourself kits, if you want surface drive and not the price of a mudbuddy or gator tail look at copperhead mudmotors,  if you want to check out my motor NW-GSP ,  i know your local and would be happy to take your for a spin or let you take it for a run before you break the bank. just message me and let me know
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: T Pearce on December 07, 2014, 12:25:31 PM
I ran a 16/48 Modified V Grumman with a 25hp Go Devil longtail and got into the places I normally went with a canoe because of the depth and the weeds.
I ran this same boat in the Columbia when the winds were down.

It was slow.... but you got there. Ding your new prop on a rock (250$ back then) then run said prop in the mud and sand and it would grind away til performance was gone.

Would I run a longtail or prop in the rocks again? NO.
Do I want to get an 18' sled hung up in the Winchester flats again ? NO

IF I were to go boat shopping today. I would get the Excel F4 18/54 with the 45hp surface drive and be happy to stay away from the rocky edges.
Spokane will rebuild the props for less than new.

Polarcraft built that tunnel hull... I thought that might be a good comp til I ran a mudmotor. :twocents:
Title: Re: mudd motor kit for $400. would it work forbthe western wa marshes and sloughs.
Post by: Mr56Jeep on December 12, 2014, 08:43:34 AM
I ordered one of these and it just showed up yesterday.

Pictures to follow.

http://www.mud-skipper.com/ (http://www.mud-skipper.com/)
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