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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: soggy on December 08, 2014, 07:51:17 PM

Title: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: soggy on December 08, 2014, 07:51:17 PM: Saw the notification, but don't really understand it.
We didn't have a permit?
What's going on?
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: MtnMuley on December 08, 2014, 07:59:23 PM: You can thank our fine WDFW for all the troubles. :twocents:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: OCD ya U know me on December 08, 2014, 08:16:56 PM: I have a permit!! I paid something like $40.50 for small game, plus a couple bucks for the dealer fee....refused to pay for any big game or special hunt tags this year due to the state mismanaging that. Looks like I will continue to pull back a little more and refuse to buy any hunting related products in this sad liberal state. All reloading supplies, ammo and camo will be ordered online. long guns will be purchased in Oregon. No state sales tax from me from now on...
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: VarmintVentilator on December 08, 2014, 08:19:09 PM: And I will continue to shoot coyotes. :tup:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: soggy on December 08, 2014, 08:34:37 PM: Did we have a permit and then they pulled it?
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: jayrod9528 on December 08, 2014, 08:42:59 PM: I know that it can take along time to get a permit. Months. Randy at WPHA puts in the application in August an we usually get it in November. It can be a pain. By the way Next month we will be putting on the WPHA coyote classic out of Pasco.
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: billythekidrock on December 08, 2014, 08:46:18 PM: The contest is in a holding pattern. Continue hunting though.
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: Special T on December 08, 2014, 08:57:26 PM: WDFW is a bunch of Limp Noodles! You need a permit to hold a coyote derby that is just for Fun and bragging rights! They should be encouraging this kind of derby! Kinda shows the root of their lack of understanding to me! :bash:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: jayrod9528 on December 08, 2014, 09:03:30 PM: Quote from: Special T on December 08, 2014, 08:57:26 PM
WDFW is a bunch of Limp Noodles! You need a permit to hold a coyote derby that is just for Fun and bragging rights! They should be encouraging this kind of derby! Kinda shows the root of their lack of understanding to me! :bash:
It's the state legislature. The WDFW are just the people who enforce the law. They make recommendations, but its the ding bats in Olympia that cause all the issues.

RCW 77.32.525
Hunting and fishing contests — Field trials for dogs — Rules — Limitation.

The director shall administer rules adopted by the commission governing the time, place, and manner of holding hunting and fishing contests and competitive field trials involving live wildlife for hunting dogs. The department shall prohibit contests and field trials that are not in the best interests of wildlife.

[1987 c 506 § 48; 1980 c 78 § 67. Formerly RCW 77.12.530.]
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: Special T on December 08, 2014, 09:04:23 PM: Whatever :bash:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on December 08, 2014, 09:09:00 PM: My old job held one every year until about three years ago. Wdfw shut it down due to no permit... Ended the local Derby for good...
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 08, 2014, 09:09:30 PM: I think for next years contest we better apply by January So that we have it on time :dunno: what a crock of ---- ! :sry:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: Raul Duke on December 08, 2014, 10:14:50 PM: Quote from: billythekidrock on December 08, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
The contest is in a holding pattern. Continue hunting though.

:tup: Keep stacking them. Just on hold for now.
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: Gringo31 on December 09, 2014, 09:06:28 AM: Quote
And I will continue to shoot coyotes.

I can't say a having a contest or not will change my stance on how many coyotes should be left to roam. :tup:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: jasnt on December 09, 2014, 09:15:30 AM: Seems like Washington is getting to much californication
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: boneaddict on December 09, 2014, 09:20:13 AM: guberment wouldn't want any innocent fun to occur, especially if they can make a buck off of it
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: bearpaw on December 09, 2014, 01:04:43 PM: FYI - The delay is absolutely no fault of WDFW, they are being very helpful.

I've been pretty busy this fall, I told the mods I would get the permit and forgot to follow through. So the delay is solely my fault and why I had to cancel the contest until we get the permit. I'm very sorry about that!

I've been in touch with WDFW and sent all the pertinent info, they can process the permit applications when they receive payment which is going in the mail today. I applied for permits for all the usual contests.
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: soggy on December 09, 2014, 02:26:34 PM: Quote from: bearpaw on December 09, 2014, 01:04:43 PM
FYI - The delay is absolutely no fault of WDFW, they are being very helpful.

I've been pretty busy this fall, I told the mods I would get the permit and forgot to follow through. So the delay is solely my fault and why I had to cancel the contest until we get the permit. I'm very sorry about that!

I've been in touch with WDFW and sent all the pertinent info, they can process the permit applications when they receive payment which is going in the mail today. I applied for permits for all the usual contests.

Thanks for answering the question.
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: JJB11B on December 09, 2014, 02:52:20 PM: We should do a free for all yotes. Get as many people as we can out hunting the same day and post all the pics in one thread just for fun. No contest, no teams, just varmint eradication
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: calib on December 09, 2014, 05:27:35 PM: Dale thanks foe the explanation, and thanks for doing this every year out of your pocket along with your team of moderators. I look forward to this every winter and believe it or not, when my first dog goes down in fall my big game interest starts to lack
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: Jrzbullelk on December 10, 2014, 11:03:53 AM: Quote from: jasnt on December 09, 2014, 09:15:30 AM
Seems like Washington is getting to much californication

:yeah: :bash:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: bearpaw on December 10, 2014, 11:08:25 AM: FYI - Once we have the permit we will allow coyotes taken from Nov 1 to Feb 28, to be entered in the contest. Just as we will allow other game taken during the fall seasons to be entered in the other contests. So keep your success photos so you can enter them in the contests.
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: btlsoom on December 15, 2014, 11:48:11 AM: Jarrod is right. I apply for our permit at least 2 1/2 months in advance of our Classic. The WDFW is not the fastest to react, hence the early request. It took me a couple of follow ups to keep it moving.

The WDFW is just following what they have been directed to follow. The blame for the cancellation of the Madness is by no means on them as Dale has stated.

Another possible reason for this is that I was contacted by the WDFW because a "group" had contacted them and requested a list from the WDFW as to who had requested and received a permit this year for the purpose of hunting coyotes. This group is based in the Tenino area. (you guess) When I returned their call, they told me they had to notify them ( did you guess) of the organizations holding these contests, the Washington Predator Hunting Association was one of them. This site and who usually gets the permit was not one of them. But they (WDFW) was curious as to why Coyote Madness was going on without one?

I called Raul Duke and gave him a "heads up" as to WDFW interest. I hope this site, Bear Paw and Rual Duke did not get any ramifications from holding this contest with out a permit. Hard to think they would even do that?

I suggest, as I do, post a copy of the permit in the future so every one know it is a "legal" contest.
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: btlsoom on December 15, 2014, 11:53:50 AM: Just another tidbit of info. At the time of the notification, they (WDFW) also made mention that they are expecting legislation early next year from the animal rights groups to get all hunting contests banned in the state of Washington. We as hunters and sportsmen and women, need to watch this as it is happening in other states now.
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: calib on December 16, 2014, 05:26:14 AM: Hopefully these people are not able to take away our freedoms we have now. Its too bad that it has gotten this way, when contest organizers are getting sued or drug through court for doing the rite things.
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: btlsoom on December 16, 2014, 07:21:56 AM: :yeah:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: bearpaw on December 16, 2014, 06:56:50 PM: I received the permits today, thanks to WDFW for quickly processing the application. :tup: :hello:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: jasnt on December 16, 2014, 07:10:28 PM: :tup:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 16, 2014, 07:18:18 PM: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: What happened to Coyote Madness?
Post by: bearpaw on December 19, 2014, 02:38:07 AM: Contest is up and running, per the rules, you can enter any coyotes taken from Nov 1 to Feb 28.
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