Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Waterfowl => Topic started by: Fieldp66 on December 14, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
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This sign is posted at the Stillwater Unit. Does anyone know what changes to expect?
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Where was it posted? Tressle?
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It is on a post on the tresell on the Fay road entrance.
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What are the issues? Why isn't this information shared prior to it becoming an issue. They have email addresses of most hunters, they know how to find us at HW and they can do press releases.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Yes, that would be the right thing to do.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
every hunting dog I've been around couldn't care less about other dogs
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
could make a leash law unless in the act of hunting with a valid hunting license in the pocket of the dog owner
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
could make a leash law unless in the act of hunting with a valid hunting license in the pocket of the dog owner
What about training hunting dogs, or exercising? You can't get a bird dog in shape if you keep it on a leash.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
could make a leash law unless in the act of hunting with a valid hunting license in the pocket of the dog owner
What about training hunting dogs, or exercising? You can't get a bird dog in shape if you keep it on a leash.
I don't like to train in wildlife areas myself, I dunno was a possibility :dunno:
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
could make a leash law unless in the act of hunting with a valid hunting license in the pocket of the dog owner
Would love to see that.
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Probably hunters will have to start bagging dog crap.... lol.... like walkers in parks. :yike: lol
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
Maybe because hunters pay for it.
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Here is the current leash law for WDFW lands:
WAC 232-13-180
Pets.
(1) The department may prohibit or regulate pets, except for bona fide service animals for persons with disabilities, on department lands.
(2) It is unlawful for any person to allow pets to roam unattended on department lands.
(3)(a) It is unlawful to cause or allow a pet to roam unleashed on department-owned lands from April 1 through July 31, unless posted otherwise.
(b) It is unlawful to cause or allow a pet to roam unleashed on designated access sites or within five hundred feet of a designated campground on department lands.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
Maybe because hunters pay for it.
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So does every other taxpayer...
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Interesting
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Well common sense tells us that no pet walking while hunting season is in effect,however that won't likely be the case.In order to passify a small special interest group of pet owners... hunters will be forced to hunt dogless or with a mandatory 40 foot leash,failure to obey will be punishable by 75 dollars per unleashed dog.
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I say our dogs can be leashed by Ecollar. My dog rarely even notices other dogs in the field or on hikes she is too busy with herself to be bothered.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
Maybe because hunters pay for it.
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So does every other taxpayer...
To a much, much lesser extent.
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There were issues at some of the other wildlife areas as well. Not sure if it led to complaints being sent up or not. But seems a lot of people go to look for retirement homes in summer and then think they know an area based off how it was during a couple weeks in summer.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
That's probably what's coming.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
Maybe because hunters pay for it.
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So does every other taxpayer...
:yeah: that's what should be noted too
that's all we needs another darned law :bash: :bash:
:sry: :chuckle: :dunno:
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Maybe.....just maybe......hunting dogs should be required to purchase their own hunting license???
JOKING....JUST JOKING....OH GOODNESS!!!!! I COULDNT HELP MYSELF. I HAD TO. :chuckle:
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They probably just don't want hunting dogs disturbing the the endangered wolves that will be populating the wildlife areas.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
Say you're out hunting birds, your dog goes on point, and some jackwagon's pet lab comes bounding along off leash and causes the bird(s) your dog is pointing to flush and you lose the shot. That tap dances on hunter harassment, can lead to a dog fight, and one mad hunter. People who aren't hunting with their dogs really need to keep them leashed during hunting season.
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
could make a leash law unless in the act of hunting with a valid hunting license in the pocket of the dog owner
What about training hunting dogs, or exercising? You can't get a bird dog in shape if you keep it on a leash.
I don't like to train in wildlife areas myself, I dunno was a possibility :dunno:
A piece of advice I learned from some coverdog field trialers years ago. Don't over do the pen raised birds. Those pigeons are great, but you can over do it. Dogs hunting wild birds need wild bird contacts.
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Maybe I am seeing this wrong- but from the original post and picture, I would venture to say that these negative confrontations with pedestrians and pets are coming from the parking lot areas. At least at the Stillwater sites, there is a walking path along the roads that Hunters must cross over to get to the hunting areas. I assume that off leash dogs crossing this path and/or parking area is where the problems arise, as opposed to actually out in the fields? I personally quit hunting at W.Wash release sites in the early 90's because of the absolute stupidity that goes on there. I am actually surprised it has taken this long before WDFW has had to act on complaints from the general public. I am not advocating that we should lose hunting grounds in any way shape or form- but policing inside our ranks has never been a better idea than now at those locations. Aside from a couple of years ago up at Fir Island with the snow geese, I have never seen a more apalling show of "hunters" out in the field as I have seen at Stillwater. Ever. How many people get dusted with shot out at that place in a year? Any one have statistics? I know that I saw at least two Tundra swans smoked and left to rot after someone mentioned that those were in fact swans and not snow geese...
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Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
could make a leash law unless in the act of hunting with a valid hunting license in the pocket of the dog owner
That would certainly be nice. I HOPE they do that. But I think it's more likely that they'll just have a leash law for all dogs hunting or not. Much easier to enforce and it will pacify all the people that were whining in the first place.
Better get that 1,000 foot check cord ready!
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Maybe I am seeing this wrong- but from the original post and picture, I would venture to say that these negative confrontations with pedestrians and pets are coming from the parking lot areas. At least at the Stillwater sites, there is a walking path along the roads that Hunters must cross over to get to the hunting areas. I assume that off leash dogs crossing this path and/or parking area is where the problems arise, as opposed to actually out in the fields? I personally quit hunting at W.Wash release sites in the early 90's because of the absolute stupidity that goes on there. I am actually surprised it has taken this long before WDFW has had to act on complaints from the general public. I am not advocating that we should lose hunting grounds in any way shape or form- but policing inside our ranks has never been a better idea than now at those locations. Aside from a couple of years ago up at Fir Island with the snow geese, I have never seen a more apalling show of "hunters" out in the field as I have seen at Stillwater. Ever. How many people get dusted with shot out at that place in a year? Any one have statistics? I know that I saw at least two Tundra swans smoked and left to rot after someone mentioned that those were in fact swans and not snow geese...
:yeah:
Same goes for scatter creek, a guy brought out his german shepherd for open day pheasant and that dog was all over the creek running up on other dogs even after getting shocked multiple times by its handler who could not keep control of his dog.
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like the non-hunters would really obey it anyways. Not sure I've seen hikers leash their dogs. I see lots of dogs out on the trails and all the hikers have the leash at the ready in case a ranger shows up.
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Poor example of what could happen,stuff like that allready does,generally what happens is the guy with the lab shoots....
Well hopefully they will say you can't walk pet dogs out there, only hunting dogs.
Why would someone with a hunting dog be more entitled than someone without?
Say you're out hunting birds, your dog goes on point, and some jackwagon's pet lab comes bounding along off leash and causes the bird(s) your dog is pointing to flush and you lose the shot. That tap dances on hunter harassment, can lead to a dog fight, and one mad hunter. People who aren't hunting with their dogs really need to keep them leashed during hunting season.
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I just emailed the area manager, he says its going to be closed to non hunting dogs until the season is over so good for us :dunno:
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Hey Sam, thanks for asking. There has been numerous complaints, reports, and conflicts between hunters, non-hunters, hunting dogs, and pets in all of my wildlife areas this season and the 2013 season. In response to these reports, I am excluding dogs on wildlife areas except for hunting. Most issues were pets and pet owners interfering with pheasant release, pheasant hunting, pets chasing pheasants off the Unit, pets and non-hunters interfering with waterfowl, decoys, and duck hunters, and folks using pheasants for training purposes.
For the remainder of the hunting season, pets are not allowed.
Thanks for asking.
-Brian Boehm
Snoqualmie Wildlife Area Manager
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Yea!!
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Skyvalhunter I hope your joking. Welcome to the lovely state of wa. The evergreen state aka money state$
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you can bet your ass it will be anoither regulation for the hunters.... lest not forget we(hunters) are the minority and all our actions or our dogs actions are going to be scrutinized. The WDFW is not run by hunters, for hunter, so I would not expect anything less :sry:
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Read a couple posts up
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Right on Stickerbush!!!!! Good news for the hunters using their best friends in the field.
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Hey Sam, thanks for asking. There has been numerous complaints, reports, and conflicts between hunters, non-hunters, hunting dogs, and pets in all of my wildlife areas this season and the 2013 season. In response to these reports, I am excluding dogs on wildlife areas except for hunting. Most issues were pets and pet owners interfering with pheasant release, pheasant hunting, pets chasing pheasants off the Unit, pets and non-hunters interfering with waterfowl, decoys, and duck hunters, and folks using pheasants for training purposes.
For the remainder of the hunting season, pets are not allowed.
Thanks for asking.
-Brian Boehm
Snoqualmie Wildlife Area Manager
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You have been doing great things out there in an under utilized area that is close to many hunters. Atta Boy
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Pheasant season is over on the West side. When do the other hunting seasons end?
Diane
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Duck hunting ends Jan 25th???? Only other conflict i can think of...
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Popped in to the Fay road entrance to see if there any updates and saw this new sign. There were three people headed into the parking lot from the field wearing hunters orange and walking their GSPs. The group walking didn't appear to be hunting but I saw them discussing the new sign as I was leaving the lot. Time will tell if this new sign will make any difference.
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:tup:
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I don't really care for that new sign. I like that they're giving preference to hunting dogs, but what about guys who want to exercise their bird dogs in the off season? I'm not sure yet if they're also doing this at Scatter Creek, but I used to exercise my dog out there all the time. I haven't been so much anymore, since I have kids now and don't have time, and especially since my Brittany recently went blind. But that will be disappointing if I ever get another bird dog, since one of the reasons I decided to live next to Scatter Creek was so I'd have a place to exercise my dogs.
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Maybe the sign will come down when hunting season is over.
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Check the rules Bobcat,there is a Dog training/pursuit season,it starts in August about the 15th ,has a downtime during hunting season and fires back up and runs until april.It doesn't specifically say that you cannot train during hunting season but it does stipulate a time which is 8-4 and that a chicken ticket is required during the hunting season.If you look you will find it.
I don't really care for that new sign. I like that they're giving preference to hunting dogs, but what about guys who want to exercise their bird dogs in the off season? I'm not sure yet if they're also doing this at Scatter Creek, but I used to exercise my dog out there all the time. I haven't been so much anymore, since I have kids now and don't have time, and especially since my Brittany recently went blind. But that will be disappointing if I ever get another bird dog, since one of the reasons I decided to live next to Scatter Creek was so I'd have a place to exercise my dogs.
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Wildweeds, I don't doubt that but the sign says dogs are only allowed "while hunting." Not while training. :dunno:
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Pretty sure it is just during hunting season, that is when the conflicts have been happening. Seems screwy though that you can't walk your dog in a field that obviously will not be holding duck hunters
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$150 fine for failing to comply with this regulation, and all other non-criminal WDFW lands offenses.
Or the officer could pursue a criminal misdemeanor charge of failing to comply with signs/notices on WDFW lands.