Post by: b23 on December 15, 2014, 01:04:53 PM
Post by: Hornseeker on December 15, 2014, 01:14:17 PM
Did you get a 30 cal or 22? What kind? How much?
:dunno:
:hello:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 15, 2014, 01:32:37 PM
Post by: b23 on December 15, 2014, 01:46:21 PM
This is something I really need to do...
Did you get a 30 cal or 22? What kind? How much?
:dunno:
:hello:
The one I got approved for today is a Thunderbeast 22S-1 rimfire suppressor. I don't exactly remember, without looking, what I paid for this one.
Post by: b23 on December 15, 2014, 01:55:02 PM
:yike: that is very very fast. I have been waiting for another just to transfer to the dealer from the wholesaler. It's been 2 months just waiting on that :yike:
I bought a couple of them out of state and the transfer, wait time, to get it shipped to a local dealer was only 4 weeks. If you're 2 months plus, that would really suck because you can't send your tax stamp form in till your local dealer gets it. That is the downside to buying one out of state, it adds to the overall wait time. The other 2 I'm waiting for had their tax stamp form sent in 4 weeks after the one I bought local that I just got the call on so, hopefully, I'll get another call a month from now. :tup:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 15, 2014, 02:10:34 PM
I had to wait a year for my first 3 stamps!
Post by: huntandjeep on December 15, 2014, 04:16:26 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 15, 2014, 04:49:47 PM
Where did you get yours at, what kind and total cost if I may ask ? Oh, what size for different caliber guns ?
Thanks,
Campmeat
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 15, 2014, 05:39:54 PM
Did you get in on the tail end of e-file or was yours the traditional paper file method? When my son got his suppressor it took 1 year+ and right now I'm waiting for mine. I'm hoping my wait time will be like yours, if so I might be getting a late but fun Christmas present in early January.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 15, 2014, 06:15:57 PM
This is something I really need to do...
Did you get a 30 cal or 22? What kind? How much?
:dunno:
:hello:
Bueller Bueller, cost anyone?
Post by: sirmissalot on December 15, 2014, 06:32:06 PM
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 15, 2014, 06:33:34 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 15, 2014, 06:43:29 PM
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 15, 2014, 06:47:32 PM
Is the tax stamp a one time deal? :dunno:If you mean one-time or annual, it's one time. However, if you mean one-time and you're good for life to keep buying more suppressors - sorry. Gotta pay-to-play every time you buy a suppressor.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 15, 2014, 06:49:14 PM
Is the tax stamp a one time deal? :dunno:If you mean one-time or annual, it's one time. However, if you mean one-time and you're good for life to keep buying more suppressors - sorry. Gotta pay-to-play every time you buy a suppressor.
Thanks, that's what I thought one tax stamp each suppressor. :tup:
Post by: sirmissalot on December 15, 2014, 06:51:34 PM
Post by: TheHunt on December 15, 2014, 06:54:55 PM
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 15, 2014, 07:00:15 PM
What is a tax stamp and where's the money go?I hope I'm giving you good info, my son knows the whole process much better than I do. The tax stamp is $200 and each and every suppressor requires one. The money goes to the government, so where it goes from there .............................. do we even want to know? They do a background check on every suppressor purchase. The tax stamp (just a piece of paper) needs to be kept with the suppressor just to prove legal compliance/ownership. I keep a photo copy with me when I have the suppressor in use and the original stays in the gun safe.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 15, 2014, 07:35:42 PM
If it was not for the huge fee each year to deal suppressors, I would be doing it. Just not worth it with a sale here and there.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 15, 2014, 08:23:19 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 15, 2014, 08:31:34 PM
You can get quick detach suppressors or direct thread. Most get quick detach and buy mounts for each gun they want to run the suppressor on. I have 2 setup like that. That I run on about 6 different guns. Then a fancy direct thread titanium for my long range rifles. They are said to be more accurate.
Post by: sirmissalot on December 15, 2014, 09:22:07 PM
I read up on the quick attach/detach ones the other day and am not sure which way to go
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 15, 2014, 10:32:18 PM
This is my American predator 308. With my YHM 30 QD suppressor.
I also have a 22 cal YHM QD and 30 cal direct thread titanium YHM.
I think the best bang for the buck is a QD 30 that you can jump around on different rifles.
Post by: b23 on December 16, 2014, 12:50:19 AM
Rimfire suppressors come in a variety of sizes, materials made with, take apart, sealed and costs. This is just my opinion but I think the TBAC 22L-1 and the TacSol Cascade Ti are the two best rimfire suppressors for sound reduction with the TBAC 22L-1 being ever so slightly better but I'm sure many would disagree.
I would highly recommend to anyone ever considering a rimfire suppressor to not look at price alone and go for the one that cost the least. Make sure you get one the covers all the different rimfires rounds. Some rimfire suppressors are even rated for the FN5.7x28. Do your research, do your research, do your research. You'll be glad you did.
The biggest issue with using a can that was made for a .30cal but on smaller caliber rifles, is their size and weight. Some companies do a really good job of keeping even their bigger caliber cans at a comparable size and weight to their .223 cans. Remember, any time you add weight to the end of the barrel it can potentially change how your rifle shoots and the smaller and longer the barrel contour, the more weight will affect it. The TBAC 30P-1 is a great universal can that is rated for anything 300 win mag and smaller. To do all over again, I would have bought the 30P-1 instead of the 223P-2, at 17.2oz it's only 3oz more than my P-2 can and that extra volume would have made things even quieter.
Also, keep in mind these things aren't "movie quiet" but subsonic ammo and a good quality suppressor and they are still damn quiet. Even with your regular ammo they eliminate a huge amount of the muzzle blast and can typically be shot without ear protection. They work very well with recoil reduction, too.
Price is whatever you can negotiate it for. Remember, if you purchase a suppressor from a dealer out of state, that dealer has to submit and receive a transfer approval from the ATF before that dealer can ship/transfer to your class III dealer and your dealer can't submit your $200 tax stamp form until he actually receives it from the out of state dealer you purchased it from. It's not big deal but be advised it will add a few months to the already long wait time. Oh, and you'll probably have to pay your local dealer a transfer fee also. Before you purchase from an out of state dealer, check with whatever local dealer you plan to use because they sometimes stick it to you on that transfer fee. I've heard as much as $75 per item.
Post by: whacker1 on December 16, 2014, 06:23:52 AM
Post by: b23 on December 16, 2014, 07:28:50 AM
did you guys put these suppressors in "Trusts"?
That's the route I went.
Post by: MP123 on December 16, 2014, 09:17:59 AM
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 16, 2014, 09:50:35 AM
I'd live to see some examples of cans and rifles people have them on if people are willing to share.Ask and ye shall receive.
I read up on the quick attach/detach ones the other day and am not sure which way to go
First, the Thunder Beast on a .308, followed by the 6.5 Creedmoor wearing the Thunder Beast, next the Griffin Armament on my .260 and finally a boring pic of the SilencerCo Sparrow.
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 16, 2014, 10:00:13 AM
Is it legal to transport your suppressor across state lines? Sounds like it's an extra hassle if you buy it from out of state so just wondering if it's ok once you own it.The tax stamp shows legal compliance/ownership of the can, so just keep a photocopy of that page in the gun case when you travel. You can cross state lines with them, but you do need to know the varying state laws. Wyoming is legal to hunt big game, so my son used his there. Montana is legal for varmint hunting, but not big game. Washington I believe is legal for all hunting.
Post by: Hornseeker on December 16, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Post by: mountainman on December 16, 2014, 02:31:53 PM
you can also shrink to wallet size and laminate itIs it legal to transport your suppressor across state lines? Sounds like it's an extra hassle if you buy it from out of state so just wondering if it's ok once you own it.The tax stamp shows legal compliance/ownership of the can, so just keep a photocopy of that page in the gun case when you travel. You can cross state lines with them, but you do need to know the varying state laws. Wyoming is legal to hunt big game, so my son used his there. Montana is legal for varmint hunting, but not big game. Washington I believe is legal for all hunting.
Post by: Netminder01 on December 16, 2014, 02:43:53 PM
I'd live to see some examples of cans and rifles people have them on if people are willing to share.Ask and ye shall receive.
I read up on the quick attach/detach ones the other day and am not sure which way to go
First, the Thunder Beast on a .308, followed by the 6.5 Creedmoor wearing the Thunder Beast, next the Griffin Armament on my .260 and finally a boring pic of the SilencerCo Sparrow.
Sweet setups!
Post by: b23 on December 16, 2014, 04:05:53 PM
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 16, 2014, 04:52:19 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on December 16, 2014, 04:57:44 PM
Post by: Blacklab on December 16, 2014, 05:06:42 PM
Post by: b23 on December 16, 2014, 05:10:50 PM
That Ruger 22/45 is a fun plicking gun, add the suppressor and they become serious fun! I thought my son was nuts when he was getting his rifle suppressor, he let me shoot his rifle and suddenly I had one in the works. Then he bought the 'little can,' again I doubted why he was doing it .................... I'm learning to listen to my son.
This is why I bought two rimfire cans, the 22S-1 and 22L-1 because I knew my daughter would always have one and I didn't want to miss out on any of the fun, too. :)
These things are worse than potato chips, you can't ever just have one. lol