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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: Spawnstar on December 19, 2014, 08:56:38 AM

Title: Teanaway wolf
Post by: Spawnstar on December 19, 2014, 08:56:38 AM: Here's a pic of a wolf in the Teanaway, I had 3 on my camera December the 6th. And we saw three more about 5 miles from here.
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Post by: Spawnstar on December 19, 2014, 08:58:52 AM: Here's the pic of one, and his tracks in front of my camera.
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Post by: idahohuntr on December 19, 2014, 09:32:30 AM: Do you have any more pictures?
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Post by: Spawnstar on December 19, 2014, 09:38:18 AM: Yes but there not good, one was chasing a deer through my camera.
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Post by: oneshot12 on December 19, 2014, 12:26:19 PM: :-\ heard they were around them parts just haven't seen them yet
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Post by: boneaddict on December 19, 2014, 12:29:49 PM: Quite a bunch in there. I expect them to cross the freeway soon and make an impact to the south. (I know some have already) but I mean in numbers. Should be showing up in North Bend as well. Hancock has some nice breeding areas there
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Post by: Watimberghost on December 19, 2014, 12:39:47 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on December 19, 2014, 12:29:49 PM
Quite a bunch in there. I expect them to cross the freeway soon and make an impact to the south. (I know some have already) but I mean in numbers. Should be showing up in North Bend as well. Hancock has some nice breeding areas there
:yeah:
unfortunately, that's all too true
Title: Re: Teanaway wolf
Post by: fly-by on December 19, 2014, 12:54:01 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on December 19, 2014, 12:29:49 PM
Quite a bunch in there. I expect them to cross the freeway soon and make an impact to the south. (I know some have already) but I mean in numbers. Should be showing up in North Bend as well. Hancock has some nice breeding areas there

Some of those clearcuts are pretty big. Seems like the best wetside habitat for a coursing predator if/when they get established here.
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Post by: zwickeyman on December 19, 2014, 01:09:16 PM: My biggest concern is the feeding stations at Joe Watt, Robinson and Oak Creek.
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Post by: Tbob on December 19, 2014, 04:18:28 PM: I saw a large wolf in the teanaway awhile back and ran into a WDFW guy a few hours later when I was leaving. I said, "hey dude, I saw a huge wolf back there a few miles and a few hours ago"! He just looked at me and said "that wouldn't surprise me"! And that was it! Kinda crazy!
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Post by: boneaddict on December 19, 2014, 04:23:38 PM: They knew they were there prior to announcing the lookout pack so I imagine they weren't surprised.
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Post by: idahohuntr on December 19, 2014, 04:31:25 PM: Confirming a pack and suspecting a pack or having a good idea that wolves are in an area are totally different things....they will know about and be able to confirm wolf activity long before they are able to confirm a wolf pack.
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Post by: boneaddict on December 19, 2014, 04:34:01 PM: Generally if you see a half dozen of them standing together with one or two collars, you should have a good idea if there is a pack or not, but hey that's just me. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Teanaway wolf
Post by: idahohuntr on December 19, 2014, 04:42:39 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on December 19, 2014, 04:34:01 PM
Generally if you see a half dozen of them standing together with one or two collars, you should have a good idea if there is a pack or not, but hey that's just me. :chuckle:
Yes, that would lead most folks to believe there is a pack, including WDFW staff I'm sure. When you are dealing with an extremely contentious species that is fraught with litigation you don't have the luxury of applying common sense and reasonable judgement...I believe a pack can not be confirmed until a den site and 2 pups surviving past 31 December is confirmed. A much higher bar than seeing a group of wolves, even repeatedly seeing a group of wolves.
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Post by: mountainman on December 19, 2014, 06:40:55 PM: Quote from: idahohuntr on December 19, 2014, 04:42:39 PM
Quote from: boneaddict on December 19, 2014, 04:34:01 PM
Generally if you see a half dozen of them standing together with one or two collars, you should have a good idea if there is a pack or not, but hey that's just me. :chuckle:
Yes, that would lead most folks to believe there is a pack, including WDFW staff I'm sure. When you are dealing with an extremely contentious species that is fraught with litigation you don't have the luxury of applying common sense and reasonable judgement...I believe a pack can not be confirmed until a den site and 2 pups surviving past 31 December is confirmed. A much higher bar than seeing a group of wolves, even repeatedly seeing a group of wolves.
it's backwards reasoning like that that adds to the problem..
Title: Re: Teanaway wolf
Post by: mfswallace on December 19, 2014, 08:07:45 PM: Quote from: mountainman on December 19, 2014, 06:40:55 PM
Quote from: idahohuntr on December 19, 2014, 04:42:39 PM
Quote from: boneaddict on December 19, 2014, 04:34:01 PM
Generally if you see a half dozen of them standing together with one or two collars, you should have a good idea if there is a pack or not, but hey that's just me. :chuckle:
Yes, that would lead most folks to believe there is a pack, including WDFW staff I'm sure. When you are dealing with an extremely contentious species that is fraught with litigation you don't have the luxury of applying common sense and reasonable judgement...I believe a pack can not be confirmed until a den site and 2 pups surviving past 31 December is confirmed. A much higher bar than seeing a group of wolves, even repeatedly seeing a group of wolves.
it's backwards reasoning like that that adds to the problem..

:yeah: reverse psychology doesn't work on people with common sense :chuckle:
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Post by: idahohuntr on December 19, 2014, 09:59:40 PM: Call it backwards reasoning or reverse psychology...the fact is its reality. You've got the same federal judge in DC that put the brakes on wolf hunting in several states (Great Lakes region and Wyoming) for some very minor technicalities for a species that anyone with common sense can tell you is not endangered. So with that kind of fierce litigation you have to have iron clad methods when it comes to defending the counts/population growth etc. of wolves. Common sense is just not relevant in a court room where so many of these issues are handled. :twocents:
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Post by: GameHunter1959 on December 19, 2014, 10:32:11 PM: Just like common sense said OJ killed Nichole Brown and Ron Goldman.
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Post by: fastdam on December 20, 2014, 03:23:09 AM: Quote from: idahohuntr on December 19, 2014, 09:59:40 PM
Call it backwards reasoning or reverse psychology...the fact is its reality. You've got the same federal judge in DC that put the brakes on wolf hunting in several states (Great Lakes region and Wyoming) for some very minor technicalities for a species that anyone with common sense can tell you is not endangered. So with that kind of fierce litigation you have to have iron clad methods when it comes to defending the counts/population growth etc. of wolves. Common sense is just not relevant in a court room where so many of these issues are handled. :twocents:

There is definitely. No common sense being applied in courtrooms. That much is for sure.
Title: Re: Teanaway wolf
Post by: zwickeyman on December 20, 2014, 06:13:33 AM: Naches

Its inevitable. By the time they will be able to be legally managed it will be too late.
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Post by: Firedogg on December 20, 2014, 07:17:50 PM: Shoot & shutup will soon be a hunting option state wide. :P