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Title: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: lokidog on December 20, 2014, 05:46:39 PM
  I'm just looking for a kit that will work decently but not cost more than the lower.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: kingmountain on December 20, 2014, 06:06:43 PM
I have one of these in my ar, not bad for the price.http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/cmmg-ar-15-lower-receiver-parts-kit?a=1336266 (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/cmmg-ar-15-lower-receiver-parts-kit?a=1336266)
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: jay.sharkbait on December 20, 2014, 06:14:23 PM
Aim has the spikes kit with free shipping http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTLPK101&name=Spike%27s+Tactical+AR15+Lower+Receiver+Parts+Kit&groupid=1444 (http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTLPK101&name=Spike%27s+Tactical+AR15+Lower+Receiver+Parts+Kit&groupid=1444)

Joe Bob outfitters is out of the inexpensive kits.....

Palmetto Armory  http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/1991/category/389/ (http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/1991/category/389/)


Now, for a little more money I'd go...http://www.weaponoutfitters.com/ar15-components/ar-15-lower-receiver-parts/fire-control/alg-quality-mil-spec-qms-trigger.html (http://www.weaponoutfitters.com/ar15-components/ar-15-lower-receiver-parts/fire-control/alg-quality-mil-spec-qms-trigger.html) with http://www.weaponoutfitters.com/ar15-components/ar-15-lower-receiver-parts/ar15-lower-parts/woa-lpk-white-oak-armament-lower-parts-kit-no-trigger.html (http://www.weaponoutfitters.com/ar15-components/ar-15-lower-receiver-parts/ar15-lower-parts/woa-lpk-white-oak-armament-lower-parts-kit-no-trigger.html)

Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: lokidog on December 20, 2014, 06:32:02 PM
I'm hoping to get an Anderson lower, would it make sense to get their lower parts kit?
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: NW-GSP on December 20, 2014, 08:46:11 PM
Look at new frontier polymer lowers, I bought a complete lower for $130.
I use it with my 6.8 spc ar-upper
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 21, 2014, 09:43:12 PM
Tagging along to see what everyone's thoughts/experiences/recommendations are, looking for an LPK for my project as well.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: rickomatic on December 27, 2014, 09:50:17 PM
Del-Ton or CMMG always work well for me.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 27, 2014, 09:58:25 PM
90% percent of most mil-spec lower parts kits are exactly the same with a different name and price. Lower parts kits are lower parts kits with the acception of the fire control group.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 27, 2014, 10:07:22 PM
 :yeah: Buy a lower kit without a fire control group and buy a better trigger. Alg makes the Qulaity mil spec trigger and the ACT trigger both much better then the factory trigger found in most kits. I am using a lot of the ACT triggers in my builds and customer builds.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Pnwrider on December 28, 2014, 10:12:00 AM
If you were thinking about a geissele trigger, this is a great buy. You're basically getting the lpk for free. I just paid 250 for this same kit from psa. http://www.slickguns.com/product/super-semi-enhanced-lower-parts-kit-featuring-geissele-ssa-e-trigger-22995-650-sh
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: kisfish on December 28, 2014, 11:10:33 AM
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Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: lokidog on December 31, 2014, 11:27:22 PM
If you were thinking about a geissele trigger, this is a great buy. You're basically getting the lpk for free. I just paid 250 for this same kit from psa. http://www.slickguns.com/product/super-semi-enhanced-lower-parts-kit-featuring-geissele-ssa-e-trigger-22995-650-sh (http://www.slickguns.com/product/super-semi-enhanced-lower-parts-kit-featuring-geissele-ssa-e-trigger-22995-650-sh)

That one's a little out of my price range.  Thanks though.  I picked up my Anderson lower today, sucks it had to be purchased as a "handgun" so now it is "registered".  Guess I'll still have to do an 80%....   ;)
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Pnwrider on December 31, 2014, 11:42:28 PM
If you were thinking about a geissele trigger, this is a great buy. You're basically getting the lpk for free. I just paid 250 for this same kit from psa. http://www.slickguns.com/product/super-semi-enhanced-lower-parts-kit-featuring-geissele-ssa-e-trigger-22995-650-sh (http://www.slickguns.com/product/super-semi-enhanced-lower-parts-kit-featuring-geissele-ssa-e-trigger-22995-650-sh)

That one's a little out of my price range.  Thanks though.  I picked up my Anderson lower today, sucks it had to be purchased as a "handgun" so now it is "registered".  Guess I'll still have to do an 80%....   ;)
What's a budget when it comes to an AR build? what are you thinking for an upper?
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Special T on December 31, 2014, 11:43:27 PM
I think the way to go Loki is to find some one who has "Upgraded" and has all thier extra lower parts. I know i have seen all kinds of stock accessories and such CHEEP on CL. I think that is the way to really save a few buck IMO... Plus because there are some real deals out there for new stuff there has to bee a bunch of used stuff cheep around.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: thinkingman on January 01, 2015, 10:45:56 AM
I got a Rock River LPK with the two-stage trigger for $150.
I'm pretty happy with it.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 01, 2015, 01:12:22 PM
Allot of guys I'm around are running one sort of Geiselle trigger or another. I've been contemplating picking up a few SSA-E's but I've used the RRA two stages for so long and they have been great triggers, I haven't felt swayed enough to change.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 01, 2015, 02:39:13 PM
Look at new frontier polymer lowers, I bought a complete lower for $130.
I use it with my 6.8 spc ar-upper



That's what I have under my 204 bull barrel.. :tup:
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on January 01, 2015, 02:50:26 PM
Found this kit, $149.99 to my door, my lower receiver is an Anderson, thoughts??

               BRAND NEW ANDERSON MANUFACTURING LOWER PARTS KIT           

******Anderson Manufacturing’s Hammer and Trigger are Stainless Steel.******

Bolt Catch, Bolt Catch Plunger, Bolt Catch Roll Pin, Bolt Catch Spring, Buffer, Retainer, Buffer Retainer Spring, Disconnect, Disconnect Spring, Hammer, Hammer Pin, Hammer Spring, Magazine Catch, Magazine Catch Button, Magazine, Catch Spring, Pistol Grip (A2 style), Pistol Grip Lock Washer, Pistol Grip Screw, Pivot Pin, Pivot Pin Detent, Pivot Pin Detent Spring, Selector, Selector Detent, Selector Detent Spring, Takedown Pin, Takedown Pin Detent, Takedown Pin, Detent Spring, Trigger, Trigger Guard, Trigger Guard Roll Pin, Trigger Pin, Trigger Spring


BUFFER-TUBE KIT

-2.9OZ BUFFER
-6 POSITION TUBE
-HARD ANODIZE TYPE III
-STANDARD BUFFER SPRING
-STANDARD CASTLE NUT
-STANDARD END PLATE
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: fly-by on January 01, 2015, 03:30:28 PM

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That one's a little out of my price range.  Thanks though.  I picked up my Anderson lower today, sucks it had to be purchased as a "handgun" so now it is "registered".  Guess I'll still have to do an 80%....   ;)
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Was it transferred as a pistol lower?
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 01, 2015, 03:39:19 PM
"I don't understand why it had to be purchased as a "Handgun"???? It's a stripped lower correct? Most FFL's mark them as "Other" when it is just a stripped lower reciever and what you choose to do with it is up to you. It wouldn't matter if it was checked off on the paperwork as "Rifle", "Handgun" or "Other. If you do the paperwork, it's still going in your name no matter what"
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on January 01, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
Maybe this is the one he got??
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on January 01, 2015, 03:56:09 PM
Where this one would have been done the same as a rifle and not added to the handgun registry...
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: wildweeds on January 01, 2015, 04:05:47 PM
I've gone the Joe bobs route twice now,once with the RRA NM 2stage enhanced,and a few weeks ago with the single stage kit for 61 dollars.I've got a gunsmith/machinest at work who works the triggers over.My 2 stage he gave the once over and it was 5.5 pounds stock,he stoned and polished,little file here and there and it breaks clean now with the stock springs at 3 pounds.He claims he can get the same out of a single stage battle trigger also.Check out the slack adjuster trigger screw thingy for 14 bucks.I got one of those to put in this next build.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 01, 2015, 05:11:16 PM
"I don't understand why it had to be purchased as a "Handgun"???? It's a stripped lower correct? Most FFL's mark them as "Other" when it is just a stripped lower reciever and what you choose to do with it is up to you. It wouldn't matter if it was checked off on the paperwork as "Rifle", "Handgun" or "Other. If you do the paperwork, it's still going in your name no matter what"

Unless the lower was stamped pistol. It should have gone as "OTHER" being a stripped lower.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Pnwrider on January 01, 2015, 05:57:27 PM
Found this kit, $149.99 to my door, my lower receiver is an Anderson, thoughts??

               BRAND NEW ANDERSON MANUFACTURING LOWER PARTS KIT           

******Anderson Manufacturing’s Hammer and Trigger are Stainless Steel.******

Bolt Catch, Bolt Catch Plunger, Bolt Catch Roll Pin, Bolt Catch Spring, Buffer, Retainer, Buffer Retainer Spring, Disconnect, Disconnect Spring, Hammer, Hammer Pin, Hammer Spring, Magazine Catch, Magazine Catch Button, Magazine, Catch Spring, Pistol Grip (A2 style), Pistol Grip Lock Washer, Pistol Grip Screw, Pivot Pin, Pivot Pin Detent, Pivot Pin Detent Spring, Selector, Selector Detent, Selector Detent Spring, Takedown Pin, Takedown Pin Detent, Takedown Pin, Detent Spring, Trigger, Trigger Guard, Trigger Guard Roll Pin, Trigger Pin, Trigger Spring


BUFFER-TUBE KIT

-2.9OZ BUFFER
-6 POSITION TUBE
-HARD ANODIZE TYPE III
-STANDARD BUFFER SPRING
-STANDARD CASTLE NUT
-STANDARD END PLATE
I have no experience with their triggers. The magpul kit usually runs between 60-70, most lpk are in the 50 range. So you're paying an extra 30 or so for their trigger (fire control group). I would probably look up reviews of their triggers to decide if it's worth it.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 01, 2015, 06:11:43 PM
I have several Mil-Spec Anderson triggers and they aren't any worse or any better than any other mil-spec trigger I have shot. All a guy has to do is dry fire one real slow as to "Feel it out" a couple times and your good to go. I would much rather shoot a RRA two stage than a Mil-spec. The end results are the same a rifle will shoot just as small a group with a mil-spec as it will with a match trigger, it's just much easier and more comfortable with the match trigger. 
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: lokidog on January 01, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
"I don't understand why it had to be purchased as a "Handgun"???? It's a stripped lower correct? Most FFL's mark them as "Other" when it is just a stripped lower reciever and what you choose to do with it is up to you. It wouldn't matter if it was checked off on the paperwork as "Rifle", "Handgun" or "Other. If you do the paperwork, it's still going in your name no matter what"

Unless the lower was stamped pistol. It should have gone as "OTHER" being a stripped lower.

At Skagit Arms, they said it had to be done as a handgun since it could be used to build one.  I just assumed that the info would then be sent to our local sheriff like my wife's info was when she picked up her 38 special.

Blacktail Sniper, I was looking at the Anderson standard LPK and found one on ebay for $49 including shipping. I haven't looked much at the stock prices to see if buying that with the LPK is a good deal.

However, a member has offered me a screaming deal on an LPK, buttstock, so I think I am set... at least until I do my 80% build someday.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: mountainman on January 01, 2015, 08:09:42 PM
Grey area here. If you plan on ever building into a pistol, state it as such. If only and always a rifle, no worry. You can, as some would say, register it as a handgun, you can always build it into either a handgun or a rifle. Once it is built into a rifle from "registering" It as a rifle, it can not be" legally" built into a handgun..hence, the grey area...who will ever know????
 
I love the R River 2 stage, but prefer the Gisselle. Don't let anyone tell you a good trigger doesn't make a difference in accuracy.  Most factory triggers leave a lot to be desired for a light, crisp break.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: wildweeds on January 01, 2015, 08:19:28 PM
I was told at the local specialty store(law enforcement/competitve shooter outfit) that with the passing of 594 that it is no longer necessary to designate a stripped lower a pistol or rifle on the paperwork.This just changed last week on thursday I believe.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: lokidog on January 01, 2015, 08:23:33 PM
Thanks for all the input, what's done is done I guess as far as the lower goes.  I'm probably like most people who don't buy a huge variety of firearms so just do what the sales person says.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 01, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
Grey area here. If you plan on ever building into a pistol, state it as such. If only and always a rifle, no worry. You can, as some would say, register it as a handgun, you can always build it into either a handgun or a rifle. Once it is built into a rifle from "registering" It as a rifle, it can not be" legally" built into a handgun..hence, the grey area...who will ever know????
 

That's why they have the "other category for stripped receivers" That way it does not matter what you build it into. That is why most ffl's will always do them as "other" that way it can be built into what ever the client wants.

If it is done as a pistol then the registration forum is sent in and registered as a handgun. If it's done as other or rifle. Then it is just like any other long gun, 4473 is saved by the ffl and nothing is sent in like we do on handguns.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: lokidog on January 01, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
It may have been done in the "other" category, maybe they meant the ffl just couldn't be done as a "long gun".  I think I will call tomorrow to find out though.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 01, 2015, 08:39:10 PM
There's no black or white, just "Right" by checking the "Other" box for a stripped lower, you can build a rifle or a pistol with it. A guy spends enough time around AR's they shoot no matter the trigger. For most  the trigger can be a upgrade later, put the cash in a GOOD barrel and build from there. The barrel is everything on a AR, the rest is however it turns out. Mil-Spec is mil-spec and billet is cool.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 01, 2015, 08:43:52 PM
It may have been done in the "other" category, maybe they meant the ffl just couldn't be done as a "long gun".  I think I will call tomorrow to find out though.

It would not hurt. It does not matter now since the paper work is done.
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: mountainman on January 01, 2015, 08:56:51 PM
Grey area here. If you plan on ever building into a pistol, state it as such. If only and always a rifle, no worry. You can, as some would say, register it as a handgun, you can always build it into either a handgun or a rifle. Once it is built into a rifle from "registering" It as a rifle, it can not be" legally" built into a handgun..hence, the grey area...who will ever know????
 

That's why they have the "other category for stripped receivers" That way it does not matter what you build it into. That is why most ffl's will always do them as "other" that way it can be built into what ever the client wants.

If it is done as a pistol then the registration forum is sent in and registered as a handgun. If it's done as other or rifle. Then it is just like any other long gun, 4473 is saved by the ffl and nothing is sent in like we do on handguns.
Yes, that is how it is properly done. My comment is what, according to the law, could potentially get a person in trouble. Correct, that, once listed as" other" on the 4473, can be built into either a rifle, or a pistol. My point is, as a pistol, it can be converted back to a rifle, then back to a pistol. If the build starts as a rifle, it becomes illegal to be converted to a pistol. Its called constructive possession. This can be verified by your local ATF agent. It is an issue solely for the purchaser at that point, not the ffl holder..hence, the grey area..who will know so to speak..
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 01, 2015, 09:03:26 PM
Yes, you are just posting a fact that does not play into this scenario. Since it was registered as a pistol. I know the laws well :chuckle:

There is no gray you convert a registered rifle to pistol it's :violent1:
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: mountainman on January 01, 2015, 09:19:25 PM
Glad you know the laws well   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 01, 2015, 09:24:00 PM
That one stems back to my contender days. So that one has been in the memory banks for awhile.

I don't plan on any time at the big house so it's a must know for me :chuckle: I don't get to blame the employees  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Lower parts kit? Good quality low cost?
Post by: mountainman on January 01, 2015, 09:31:19 PM
I don't plan on any time at the big house so it's a must know for me  I don't get to blame the employees 

 :tup:

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