Post by: Wingin it on December 21, 2014, 12:37:23 PM
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 21, 2014, 01:24:23 PM
Another for the Tikka. Tikka T3 lite, great out of the box shooter. Got mine new for 550.00 and scoped is right at 7#
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 21, 2014, 01:25:37 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 21, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
Post by: elkaholic123 on December 21, 2014, 01:50:01 PM
$1000 will buy 75% of the rifles available anymore in one way, shape or form. I you want the best bang for your buck rifle, I'd look hard at Savages. You'd still have half your budget left over. What kind of glass will you out on it? Don't spend all your money on a rifle then put a $100 scope on it.:yeah:
Post by: Bob33 on December 21, 2014, 01:50:29 PM
Post by: Huntboy on December 21, 2014, 02:11:14 PM
$1000 will buy 75% of the rifles available anymore in one way, shape or form. I you want the best bang for your buck rifle, I'd look hard at Savages. You'd still have half your budget left over. What kind of glass will you out on it? Don't spend all your money on a rifle then put a $100 scope on it.:yeah:
:yeah:
Post by: Wingin it on December 21, 2014, 02:27:57 PM
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Post by: Rich_S on December 21, 2014, 04:22:16 PM
All good picks but I know my Winchester Model 70 shot excellent out of the box ..about the only rifle I own that I never done any work to as far as free floating the barrel or adjusting trigger pull :tup:
:yeah: There's several choices in my safe, but I almost always grab a Winchester 70 Featherweight. It is wearing Leupold glass, but I think Vortex or Nikon are viable options. Like usual, buy "on sale".
Post by: wannabhntr on December 21, 2014, 04:22:51 PM
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Post by: jasnt on December 21, 2014, 04:39:14 PM
Post by: Dan-o on December 21, 2014, 04:46:45 PM
Post by: Jason on December 21, 2014, 04:52:34 PM
Post by: jasnt on December 21, 2014, 04:54:22 PM
I'd go with your Savage LRH over the Remington.... fewer recalls. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:I've always loved the rem's but their triggers are garbage! Haven't shot a savage with a good factory trigger either. Most these factory triggers this days are junk. To heavy, lots of creep, inconsistent. Try a good timmeny or jewel and you'll never want to go back.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 21, 2014, 04:58:09 PM
Check out. www.davidsionsgalleryofguns.com (http://www.davidsionsgalleryofguns.com) and do a search in the Gun Genie section. Can't beat the prices delivered to your FFL.
Post by: higunner on December 21, 2014, 04:59:45 PM
Post by: T Pearce on December 21, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
Ha! This should be good. I've shot 300.00 Savage factory rifles that have shot as well as some 2600.00 custom builds I have had done. Both easily under half MOA.I'd hate to upset anyone....... but when I build a rifle I base it on a Remington.....
When I want a rifle to shoot with very minimal fuss, I buy a savage with the accutrigger. I dont care for the accustock though. My Savage 204 is silly accurate. The 7-08 has made me want one of my own...... my son is a lefty.. he shoots it very well.
I wish Tikka made a short action for SA calibers and had less plastic on the bolt head.
If the bbl is smooth, trigger can be worked over, skim bed and free float.. sometimes work is fun.
I have had rifles (factory Rem and Win) couldn't get to shoot, I traded or sold them to someone maybe some what less demanding.
Ive also had a boat paddle stocked and braked 338 Win Ruger that shot bug hole groups.
I sold it cause it was too long for timber crawling.
Buy what point's well, you'll be ok
Rambling...
Post by: Dan-o on December 21, 2014, 05:29:49 PM
I'd go with your Savage LRH over the Remington.... fewer recalls. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:I've always loved the rem's but their triggers are garbage! Haven't shot a savage with a good factory trigger either. Most these factory triggers this days are junk. To heavy, lots of creep, inconsistent. Try a good timmeny or jewel and you'll never want to go back.
Have you shot a Savage with the Accu-Trigger? Pretty sweet, right out of the box, IMHO.
Post by: mkcj on December 21, 2014, 05:31:00 PM
Rem lr 700. 7 mm or 300wm cabellas $699.00
I was going to say :yeah: my co-worker has this gun in 300 win and I have seen the targets from it, and it shoots great. they are on the heavy side but the last thing you want in a long range gun is ultra light weight. Both my boys shoot tikka's (270wsm & 300wsm) I will NEVER own a Tikka magnum :twocents: i have tried hand loading for the tikka's but with their short mag length the closest I can get to the lands is .095, so you can't even fine tune a hand load.
Post by: mkcj on December 21, 2014, 05:33:08 PM
I'd go with your Savage LRH over the Remington.... fewer recalls. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:I've always loved the rem's but their triggers are garbage! Haven't shot a savage with a good factory trigger either. Most these factory triggers this days are junk. To heavy, lots of creep, inconsistent. Try a good timmeny or jewel and you'll never want to go back.
Have you shot a Savage with the Accu-Trigger? Pretty sweet, right out of the box, IMHO.
I have heard that a lot! Savage is working really hard at making very good shooting rifles for a decent price.
Post by: jasnt on December 21, 2014, 05:39:11 PM
yes I have. Doesn't even compare to a timmenyI'd go with your Savage LRH over the Remington.... fewer recalls. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:I've always loved the rem's but their triggers are garbage! Haven't shot a savage with a good factory trigger either. Most these factory triggers this days are junk. To heavy, lots of creep, inconsistent. Try a good timmeny or jewel and you'll never want to go back.
Have you shot a Savage with the Accu-Trigger? Pretty sweet, right out of the box, IMHO.
Post by: yorketransport on December 21, 2014, 05:46:26 PM
Ruger m77 mkII's/Hawkeyes. :tup::yeah:
These are my first choice for a dedicated hunting gun. I've never owned or shot a Remington or Savage that cycled as smooth as the newer Ruger Hawkeyes. Plus the new Rugers are proving to shoot extremely well.
If you plan on doing any upgrades like a stock or trigger, then I like the Savages. There just aren't as many options for the Ruger.
Andrew
Post by: jackelope on December 21, 2014, 05:55:54 PM
REM 700 and put the rest in to trigger and good chasi. Good rule of thumb is spend the same on your glass as the rifle. That said I love my vortex viper PST!!!! Good glass,tracks true, and has taken a BEATING!!!!
Then you have a rifle that shoots as good as a $400 savage!!
Post by: yorketransport on December 21, 2014, 06:15:15 PM
:chuckle:REM 700 and put the rest in to trigger and good chasi. Good rule of thumb is spend the same on your glass as the rifle. That said I love my vortex viper PST!!!! Good glass,tracks true, and has taken a BEATING!!!!
Then you have a rifle that shoots as good as a $400 savage!!
Post by: jasnt on December 21, 2014, 06:46:42 PM
that's funny right there! I was pointing out that I didn't go by the good rule of thumb. That scope is sitting on top of a REM 700 sps varmint 26" in a XLR Industry's chasi.REM 700 and put the rest in to trigger and good chasi. Good rule of thumb is spend the same on your glass as the rifle. That said I love my vortex viper PST!!!! Good glass,tracks true, and has taken a BEATING!!!!
Then you have a rifle that shoots as good as a $400 savage!!
the acu-trigger is pretty good for a factory trigger. But can't even run in the same race as a timmeny.
thanks for the laugh tho :tup:
Post by: jackelope on December 21, 2014, 07:39:13 PM
that's funny right there! I was pointing out that I didn't go by the good rule of thumb. That scope is sitting on top of a REM 700 sps varmint 26" in a XLR Industry's chasi.REM 700 and put the rest in to trigger and good chasi. Good rule of thumb is spend the same on your glass as the rifle. That said I love my vortex viper PST!!!! Good glass,tracks true, and has taken a BEATING!!!!
Then you have a rifle that shoots as good as a $400 savage!!
the acu-trigger is pretty good for a factory trigger. But can't even run in the same race as a timmeny.
thanks for the laugh tho :tup:
I was talking about the need to change parts on a Remington to get it to run with a Savage.
Post by: Dan-o on December 21, 2014, 07:56:36 PM
With aftermarket triggers..........
And aftermarket stocks............
And barrel work..............
But you are right: After all of that, they will run with an out-of-the-box Savage. :tup:
Post by: jasnt on December 21, 2014, 07:57:42 PM
that's funny right there! I was pointing out that I didn't go by the good rule of thumb. That scope is sitting on top of a REM 700 sps varmint 26" in a XLR Industry's chasi.REM 700 and put the rest in to trigger and good chasi. Good rule of thumb is spend the same on your glass as the rifle. That said I love my vortex viper PST!!!! Good glass,tracks true, and has taken a BEATING!!!!
Then you have a rifle that shoots as good as a $400 savage!!
the acu-trigger is pretty good for a factory trigger. But can't even run in the same race as a timmeny.
thanks for the laugh tho :tup:
I was talking about the need to change parts on a Remington to get it to run with a Savage.
correct me if I'm wrong but I don't know of a $400 savage with an acu triger. Maybe the mark2 22lr?
I'm not hating on savage, I just never found a factory trigger (including the acu-tigger) that I like. I'm sure I'm not alone. An aftermarket trigger will improve any factory rifle.
Post by: jackelope on December 21, 2014, 08:01:34 PM
that's funny right there! I was pointing out that I didn't go by the good rule of thumb. That scope is sitting on top of a REM 700 sps varmint 26" in a XLR Industry's chasi.REM 700 and put the rest in to trigger and good chasi. Good rule of thumb is spend the same on your glass as the rifle. That said I love my vortex viper PST!!!! Good glass,tracks true, and has taken a BEATING!!!!
Then you have a rifle that shoots as good as a $400 savage!!
the acu-trigger is pretty good for a factory trigger. But can't even run in the same race as a timmeny.
thanks for the laugh tho :tup:
I was talking about the need to change parts on a Remington to get it to run with a Savage.
correct me if I'm wrong but I don't know of a $400 savage with an acu triger. Maybe the mark2 22lr?
I've got 2. A .300 win mag and a .30-06
Both with accutriggers. Pretty much all of the newer-ish 110-10 series rifles have accutriggers. Oh and I paid $150 for the -06.
Post by: jasnt on December 21, 2014, 08:05:01 PM
the op stated out of the box which would imply new not used.that's funny right there! I was pointing out that I didn't go by the good rule of thumb. That scope is sitting on top of a REM 700 sps varmint 26" in a XLR Industry's chasi.REM 700 and put the rest in to trigger and good chasi. Good rule of thumb is spend the same on your glass as the rifle. That said I love my vortex viper PST!!!! Good glass,tracks true, and has taken a BEATING!!!!
Then you have a rifle that shoots as good as a $400 savage!!
the acu-trigger is pretty good for a factory trigger. But can't even run in the same race as a timmeny.
thanks for the laugh tho :tup:
I was talking about the need to change parts on a Remington to get it to run with a Savage.
correct me if I'm wrong but I don't know of a $400 savage with an acu triger. Maybe the mark2 22lr?
I've got 2. A .300 win mag and a .30-06
Both with accutriggers. Pretty much all of the newer-ish 110-10 series rifles have accutriggers. Oh and I paid $150 for the -06.
Post by: jasnt on December 21, 2014, 08:09:54 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 21, 2014, 08:10:23 PM
the op stated out of the box which would imply new not used.that's funny right there! I was pointing out that I didn't go by the good rule of thumb. That scope is sitting on top of a REM 700 sps varmint 26" in a XLR Industry's chasi.REM 700 and put the rest in to trigger and good chasi. Good rule of thumb is spend the same on your glass as the rifle. That said I love my vortex viper PST!!!! Good glass,tracks true, and has taken a BEATING!!!!
Then you have a rifle that shoots as good as a $400 savage!!
the acu-trigger is pretty good for a factory trigger. But can't even run in the same race as a timmeny.
thanks for the laugh tho :tup:
I was talking about the need to change parts on a Remington to get it to run with a Savage.
correct me if I'm wrong but I don't know of a $400 savage with an acu triger. Maybe the mark2 22lr?
I've got 2. A .300 win mag and a .30-06
Both with accutriggers. Pretty much all of the newer-ish 110-10 series rifles have accutriggers. Oh and I paid $150 for the -06.
My reply was more intended to answer your question regarding the accutriggers. New $400 savage rifles have accutriggers. How's that?
Post by: ribka on December 21, 2014, 08:13:03 PM
Post by: jasnt on December 21, 2014, 08:17:07 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 21, 2014, 08:18:17 PM
Cheapest 110 im finding is $691msrp. Tho the 110BA looks sweet!
$599 for a 10T and that's their "tactical" model with the bull barrel, etc.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Savage174-10T-Tactical-Bolt-Action-Rifle/1695199.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3FrecordsPerPage%3D18%26No%3D0%26N%3D0%26nl%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3DSavage%2B110%26search%3DSearch&No=0&Ntt=Savage+110
The .300 I have was $479 at cabelas and it came with a Nikon scope.
Post by: jackelope on December 21, 2014, 08:18:53 PM
Best advice I can give with my limited experience is you will be better off putting $1000 in to a rifle you already own than buying a $1000 rifle.
Fully agree.
Post by: T Pearce on December 21, 2014, 08:21:28 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 21, 2014, 08:26:24 PM
Post by: Dan-o on December 21, 2014, 08:30:21 PM
How much criticisim does the OP wanna get info for a $1000 rifle, which might be the best shooting rifle ever for him. How much do the self-righteous owners, of any $1000 out of the box, wanna be critical of a members question ? I know it's all up to the person who is behind the trigger.
It's Ford/Chevy/Dodge, and it's all been clean.
Having said that, buy the Savage 111 combo for under $500, and outshoot all the Remington's, Winchesters and Rugers. :tup:
Post by: jasnt on December 21, 2014, 08:32:20 PM
How much criticisim does the OP wanna get info for a $1000 rifle, which might be the best shooting rifle ever for him. How much do the self-righteous owners, of any $1000 out of the box, wanna be critical of a members question ? I know it's all up to the person who is behind the trigger.lol when ya ask for peoples opinions, you will get them all. You know what they say about opinions lol
Post by: Dan-o on December 21, 2014, 08:49:58 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on December 21, 2014, 08:54:27 PM
Yup..... although if you pour enough money into that thing, it will run with the Savages. :tup:
You mean a factory MSR? :chuckle:
Post by: Dan-o on December 21, 2014, 08:57:18 PM
Yup..... although if you pour enough money into that thing, it will run with the Savages. :tup:
You mean a factory MSR? :chuckle:
Lipstick on a pig....... It's still a Remington.
The good news is, you can send it back to the factory and they'll replace the trigger for free. :chuckle:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on December 21, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
Yup..... although if you pour enough money into that thing, it will run with the Savages. :tup:
You mean a factory MSR? :chuckle:
Lipstick on a pig....... It's still a Remington.
The good news is, you can send it back to the factory and they'll replace the trigger for free. :chuckle:
Ever shoot one?
Post by: addicted on December 21, 2014, 09:05:02 PM
Post by: Dan-o on December 21, 2014, 09:11:27 PM
Yup..... although if you pour enough money into that thing, it will run with the Savages. :tup:
You mean a factory MSR? :chuckle:
Lipstick on a pig....... It's still a Remington.
The good news is, you can send it back to the factory and they'll replace the trigger for free. :chuckle:
Ever shoot one?
Nope.
And I'm just messing with you.
I've had GREAT luck with Savage 111's (me and 4 kids; all of the rifles shoot very impressively).
But, I don't have experience with much else, so for me it really is Ford/Chevy/Dodge.
I suspect you have more experience than I do.
I am old and tired, and off to bed so I can wake up and go to work. Millions of people on welfare are counting on me!
Good night.
Post by: JODakota on December 21, 2014, 10:15:45 PM
Tikka and a Vortex!
This is what I use!
Post by: dscubame on December 21, 2014, 11:55:48 PM
Post by: Dan-o on December 22, 2014, 01:12:58 AM
Tikka! Cannot understand the savage votes. Seriously.
SSSSShhhhhhhh.... Don't tell them that I sold you a Remington and then asked if you were interested in selling it back to me...... :sry:
Post by: Bigshooter on December 22, 2014, 01:20:53 AM
Tikka! Cannot understand the savage votes. Seriously.
You being a Tikka guy explains why you don't understand. :chuckle:
Post by: rasbo on December 22, 2014, 04:05:14 AM
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Post by: huntnnw on December 22, 2014, 06:28:51 AM
Post by: Taco280AI on December 22, 2014, 07:00:24 AM
Yes, some of these sub $1000 factory rifles can hang with some custom built $3000 rifles. Benefit of them is you get exactly what you want. Components, accuracy, weight, look, feel, everything. At the end of the day if you just want a rifle that shoots great and gets animals on the ground, no need for a custom (coming from someone who has one).
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 22, 2014, 07:14:37 AM
Cheapest 110 im finding is $691msrp. Tho the 110BA looks sweet!
$599 for a 10T and that's their "tactical" model with the bull barrel, etc.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Savage174-10T-Tactical-Bolt-Action-Rifle/1695199.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3FrecordsPerPage%3D18%26No%3D0%26N%3D0%26nl%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3DSavage%2B110%26search%3DSearch&No=0&Ntt=Savage+110 (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Savage174-10T-Tactical-Bolt-Action-Rifle/1695199.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3FrecordsPerPage%3D18%26No%3D0%26N%3D0%26nl%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3DSavage%2B110%26search%3DSearch&No=0&Ntt=Savage+110)
The .300 I have was $479 at cabelas and it came with a Nikon scope.
I have a model 10 Bull Barrel myself. It's a tack driver, but it's a 308. That's what I use for long distance shooting out to 850 yards. The package is right at $1300 because of the Surefire brake.
Post by: jackelope on December 22, 2014, 07:24:30 AM
Tikka! Cannot understand the savage votes. Seriously.
You probably just don't have any experience with a Savage. Not sure why you wouldn't understand otherwise. I'm not anti-Tikka. Savage is indeed a great out of the box shooter at a great price. You can't argue that.
Post by: RatherBOutdoors on December 22, 2014, 07:31:59 AM
Post by: coachcw on December 22, 2014, 07:32:34 AM
Post by: rtspring on December 22, 2014, 07:50:11 AM
I am by far a Rem fan, but now own a Savage axis in .243 that will give a whole lot of my Remmys a run for there money..
I dont care what a rifle looks like, how smooth the action is, stainless, blued...
As long as it accurately puts ordinance on target its good to go..
Post by: suga on December 22, 2014, 08:11:03 AM
the savages are sloppy poorly finished , you can ssee the bullets in the mag with the bolt closed , but they shoot ! they are meat and potato's kinda like a t3 what you buy is what you get . if you want a moa gun then a savage or tika is a good bet . if you want to be able to ad on then cost wise a rem is hard to beat just so many parts . take rem with a timmey trigger and bedding job any day .X2
Post by: Kittman on December 22, 2014, 08:29:32 AM
I find it strange that in topics like this Winchester is hardly ever brought up. I have a model 70 that is an absolute tack driver! Anyway, back to your thoughts and opinions.
I find that odd as well, I have several model 70's myself and never have even come close to considering parting with them. They really are that good. I notice there are many Tikka's and Savages that find their way into the classifieds here. Very interesting.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on December 22, 2014, 11:35:33 AM
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Post by: superdown on December 22, 2014, 01:35:57 PM
I know alot of guys will disagree but im a big fan of the browing xbolt and abolt. I own the xbolt in a 7mm rem. Mag and the abolt in the 270 win. I love both of them and they are very accurate with factory ammo but, thats just my :twocents:. There usually priced between 700 to 800 bucks.:yeah: I have had my A-bolt II in 325wsm for over eight years and love it! I also had one in 270wsm and only had it a short time but it was a great rifle as well i just prefer cartridges that are larger than .30cal :tup:
Post by: Damnimissed on December 22, 2014, 01:56:29 PM
Post by: VarmintVentilator on December 22, 2014, 03:04:10 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 22, 2014, 04:57:59 PM
Post by: elktracker96 on December 22, 2014, 05:07:22 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 22, 2014, 05:09:09 PM
whow about a vanguard :twocents:
I have a 257 Weatherby and is accurate.
Post by: James on December 22, 2014, 05:42:47 PM
So with that, I think a $300 savage 110 ( bit more if you want stainless steel or other options), then spend the rest on glass and ammo.
Post by: bobcat on December 22, 2014, 06:14:46 PM
Most all manufacturer's these days are putting out rifles that can flat out shoot well. If it was me though, I would narrow my options down to rifles that are made in the good ol' USA. Lets keep our dollars at home. This is me riding off on my high horse :chuckle:>>>>> :llam:
:yeah: I was about to post the same thing.
Post by: Dan-o on December 22, 2014, 06:15:23 PM
I have a Savage and Ruger, another friend has a Remington, another friend has a T3. Which one is more accurate? The one behind the trigger who is having the better day. :dunno: Just saying!
Funny how the guy behind the trigger is usually working with the Savage. :tup: :chuckle:
Post by: kodiak 907 on December 22, 2014, 06:18:00 PM