Post by: Duckhunter14 on December 31, 2014, 10:57:04 AM
Post by: Hunting7mm on December 31, 2014, 11:04:11 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 31, 2014, 11:08:20 AM
Post by: coachcw on December 31, 2014, 11:32:10 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 31, 2014, 11:41:07 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 31, 2014, 11:46:20 AM
Post by: 3nails on December 31, 2014, 12:14:05 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 31, 2014, 12:20:06 PM
there was a member here (Jingles?) that caught Forest Circus out stealing trail cams on his property.
:yike: "Forest Circus" is a member on here?
I guess it wouldn't surprise me. If I recall correct a few members on here have screwed other members over on things like gas money and still have the nerve to show their mug. ----------- (edit: get my facts straight :rolleyes:) ??
Post by: netcoyote on December 31, 2014, 12:36:57 PM
I really hope it doesn't get to the point of having to bolt these into trees. Once that starts, the tree-huggers will start demanding prohibition of cams.
Post by: Bean Counter on December 31, 2014, 12:38:43 PM
I really hope it doesn't get to the point of having to bolt these into trees. Once that starts, the tree-huggers will start demanding prohibition of cams.
I once knew this college kid who would blast young saplings with bird shot. :rolleyes:
Post by: Rainier10 on December 31, 2014, 12:44:57 PM
I have had others steal deer and elk sheds that I leave out for my kids to find. I have my place clearly posted but some people just don't care if it is posted or not they think it is there right to go were they want and take what they want.
Hopefully next year is better for you.
Post by: Jingles on December 31, 2014, 03:12:01 PM
Post by: Dan-o on December 31, 2014, 08:36:38 PM
I've had two stolen off private property.
Makes me want to kick them right in the.............. SD ram card!
Post by: billythekidrock on December 31, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
I feel for you, nothing is sacred even on private property. I have had a guy shoot and wound a deer on my place on camera, he cleared the photos on the camera he found trying to cover his tracks but didn't see the other camera that also captured a photo of him. At least he left the camera there and just cleared the photos.
I have had others steal deer and elk sheds that I leave out for my kids to find. I have my place clearly posted but some people just don't care if it is posted or not they think it is there right to go were they want and take what they want.
Hopefully next year is better for you.
and those "cleared" photos are probably recoverable with cheap software.
Post by: trophyhunt on January 01, 2015, 06:08:56 PM
I've had cages and cams out in high use areas that never get messed with. Day hikers and the like will pose for the cam or just look at it when they go by. When I set my stuff in more remote areas it gets messed with or stolen. I truly hate to say it but I think we have a higher rate of thieving low-lifes in our group (outdoorsmen) than the general public.I hate to say it but I also believe it's fellow hunters stealing the camera's for the most part!
Post by: Rainier10 on January 01, 2015, 08:51:33 PM
Yes but the other camera had clear photos of him. He denied it until I showed him the photos from the second camera. Then he came clean. Irritating but again at least he left the camera.I feel for you, nothing is sacred even on private property. I have had a guy shoot and wound a deer on my place on camera, he cleared the photos on the camera he found trying to cover his tracks but didn't see the other camera that also captured a photo of him. At least he left the camera there and just cleared the photos.
I have had others steal deer and elk sheds that I leave out for my kids to find. I have my place clearly posted but some people just don't care if it is posted or not they think it is there right to go were they want and take what they want.
Hopefully next year is better for you.
and those "cleared" photos are probably recoverable with cheap software.
Post by: Jingles on January 03, 2015, 06:42:20 PM
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Yes but the other camera had clear photos of him. He denied it until I showed him the photos from the second camera. Then he came clean. Irritating but again at least he left the camera.
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To me you confronting him was a BIG mistake I think you should of let the LEO's confront him.. But then how many cops would of done anything they would of said the crime is to small for us to worry about......
Post by: Bean Counter on January 03, 2015, 07:07:32 PM
Last I read KCSO was washing their hands of any property crimes > $10,000 :bash:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 03, 2015, 07:29:31 PM
Most.there was a news story about a neighborhood in or adjacent to Seattle that is hiring off duty police officers to deal with their increase in crime.
Last I read KCSO was washing their hands of any property crimes > $10,000 :bash:
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 04, 2015, 08:22:44 PM
there was a member here (Jingles?) that caught Forest Circus out stealing trail cams on his property.
:yike: "Forest Circus" is a member on here?
I guess it wouldn't surprise me. If I recall correct a few members on here have screwed other members over on things like gas money and still have the nerve to show their mug. pbj3 and xXLoloJaxX ??
Are you trying to name drop me?
Post by: MtnMuley on January 04, 2015, 08:56:40 PM
Post by: sled on January 04, 2015, 09:43:24 PM
Post by: huntnnw on January 04, 2015, 09:58:18 PM
Post by: sled on January 04, 2015, 10:21:23 PM
probably a member on here...apparently in past discussions its okay :rolleyes:maybe? I hope I get pics.
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 07, 2015, 11:04:58 AM
there was a member here (Jingles?) that caught Forest Circus out stealing trail cams on his property.
:yike: "Forest Circus" is a member on here?
I guess it wouldn't surprise me. If I recall correct a few members on here have screwed other members over on things like gas money and still have the nerve to show their mug. pbj3 and xXLoloJaxX ??
Are you trying to name drop me?
Hello? Bean Counter?
Post by: trophyhunt on January 10, 2015, 09:31:04 AM
probably a member on here...apparently in past discussions its okay :rolleyes::yeah: Can't remember his name?
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 10, 2015, 10:08:12 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 10, 2015, 10:47:41 AM
there was a member here (Jingles?) that caught Forest Circus out stealing trail cams on his property.
:yike: "Forest Circus" is a member on here?
I guess it wouldn't surprise me. If I recall correct a few members on here have screwed other members over on things like gas money and still have the nerve to show their mug. pbj3 and xXLoloJaxX ??
Probably should be positive of this before calling people out on maybe remembering something. Just sayin....after a lot of years on here and a pretty decent memory for stuff like this, I don't recall anything bad ever being said about the 2nd member you mentioned. Just a thought.
Post by: trophyhunt on January 10, 2015, 10:53:21 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 10, 2015, 12:33:55 PM
I must have confused you with someone else. I should have checked before opening my mouth (touching my keyboard). I am very sorry. I have edited my post FWIW.
I don't normally review a bulk of ones posts but in doing so for you its clear you bring quite a bit to this forum and obviously keep your nose out of trouble far better than I do :bash:
:sry: :sry: :sry:
Post by: Bean Counter on January 10, 2015, 12:36:34 PM
Still waiting to hear why I was called out ? :dunno:
Sending you a PM
:sry:
Post by: trophyhunt on January 10, 2015, 12:47:11 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 10, 2015, 03:09:15 PM
Good sir,
I must have confused you with someone else. I should have checked before opening my mouth (touching my keyboard). I am very sorry. I have edited my post FWIW.
I don't normally review a bulk of ones posts but in doing so for you its clear you bring quite a bit to this forum and obviously keep your nose out of trouble far better than I do :bash:
:sry: :sry: :sry:
All good. Was just curious what I did to be called out for. Not impossible for me to rub someone the wrong way :chuckle:
Post by: Dave of TDG-Farms on January 26, 2015, 09:50:37 AM
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
Post by: MtnMuley on January 26, 2015, 09:57:51 AM
Post by: grundy53 on January 26, 2015, 10:01:11 AM
My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.Wow. That's pretty messed up.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 26, 2015, 10:15:33 AM
My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.:yike: I guess that is one way to look at it.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 10:23:24 AM
My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
Amazing.
Thanks Dave for the post. I guess if this is the person you wish to do business with please feel free. However, I find that to be one of the most pathetic posts. I'd be ashamed to have that opinion.
I needed to edit that...I can't be 100% of his assocaiation. His screen name says Dave of TDG-Farms.
https://www.facebook.com/FiveGoatFarm/posts/603703599688923# (https://www.facebook.com/FiveGoatFarm/posts/603703599688923#)!/david.eskildsen.7?fref=nf
However, if you are missing a trail cam in the area you may want to look here!
Post by: Buckmark on January 26, 2015, 10:40:28 AM
My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.Speechless... :yike:, so if i dont put a lock on it it's yours to take? What kinda of messed up logic and upbringing did you have, i hope you are not teaching your kids the same lack of morals and values. If it is not yours, don't touch it....
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
I park my vehicle on public land, its white so hard to hide and no security system so it must be ok for you to take it then..... :dunno:
Post by: vandeman17 on January 26, 2015, 11:03:28 AM
My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
The way I play it is a guy that touches another man's property is in line for a good butt whooping. Don't like it? Tough. When you come to you can crawl your sorry behind back to your truck and head straight to the dentist to get your front teeth put back in your face. What a pathetic post and you sir, are what's wrong with some people these days.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 26, 2015, 11:08:27 AM
My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
You ever thought about leaving it alone? My god it's not yours, leave it alone.. You guys rob camps on public land?
Post by: 3nails on January 26, 2015, 11:09:52 AM
My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.:yike: :yike: :yike:
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
Prepare for thread to blow up in 3... 2... 1.....
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 26, 2015, 11:14:05 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 26, 2015, 11:15:19 AM
:yeah:My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
You ever thought about leaving it alone? My god it's not yours, leave it alone.. You guys rob camps on public land?
It sounds like from his post he took issue with it not being secure or hidden and that is why he took it also, maybe if it was secured or hidden he would have left it but I am not sure why that would have made a difference.
Very strange post for sure.
Post by: Curly on January 26, 2015, 11:17:10 AM
Gun in hand or not, me, I walk up to the dude and get my stuff back.
Post by: Doublelunger on January 26, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
The way I play it is a guy that touches another man's property is in line for a good @$$ whooping. Don't like it? Tough. When you come to you can crawl your sorry behind back to your truck and head straight to the dentist to get your front teeth put back in your face. What a pathetic post and you sir, are what's wrong with some people these days.
:yeah: I couldn't have said it any better
Post by: jackelope on January 26, 2015, 11:26:01 AM
My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
As MtnMuley mentioned, it's a good thing it wasn't mine that you found.
Do you steal everything you find on public land that you find? Like people's cars, camps, etc? Or are you just stealing from other hunters so you don't have to worry about the competition?
Wow.
Pathetic.
Post by: jackelope on January 26, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
Dave of TDG-Farms, it seems you wouldn't like it if your stuff were to be taken.......I wonder why you think it's fine for you and your brother to steal?Gun in hand or not, me, I walk up to the dude and get my stuff back.
Big tough guy......
:o
Apparently it's ok to be a thief but not ok to be the victim of theft.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 26, 2015, 11:27:57 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 11:28:52 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 26, 2015, 11:30:15 AM
Gun in handMine or not, me, I walk up to thedudetree and getmy stuff backa new trail camera.
fixed it for you big Dave :tup:
Post by: Rainier10 on January 26, 2015, 11:34:47 AM
:yeah: Man did you nail the call on this one.My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.:yike: :yike: :yike:
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
Prepare for thread to blow up in 3... 2... 1.....
Curly just blasted it off by finding that old quote from 2013 and now Jonathan_S has taken it to a new level. Almost spit my water out as I read his post.
Post by: netcoyote on January 26, 2015, 11:36:18 AM
Guess I never thought about this mentality coming from a fellow hunter. Strange, very strange.
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 11:45:54 AM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/PTNMV1BOR96I/ref=cm_wl_rlist_go_v? (http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/PTNMV1BOR96I/ref=cm_wl_rlist_go_v?)
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 26, 2015, 11:50:13 AM
No trail cams on the wish list?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/PTNMV1BOR96I/ref=cm_wl_rlist_go_v? (http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/PTNMV1BOR96I/ref=cm_wl_rlist_go_v?)
Hahahahah!
Nah, not when you can get them for free.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 26, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 12:23:10 PM
:stirthepot: :stup:
Post by: bhawley76 on January 26, 2015, 12:24:48 PM
Post by: mfswallace on January 26, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 12:32:00 PM
Woody?
I see he has at least one buck pictured. Did he shoot it or "find it in the woods"?
Post by: nacheshunter on January 26, 2015, 12:36:16 PM
We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?Yes I applaud him for admitting he took a trail camera.
Post by: grundy53 on January 26, 2015, 12:40:32 PM
What? You applaud him for being a thief? You have got to be kidding me. I thought I had heard it all...We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?Yes I applaud him for admitting he took a trail camera.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 26, 2015, 12:40:47 PM
We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?I pulled it because of the word it used, I will now pull the others that are skirting the filter.
Where did your post go?
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 26, 2015, 12:41:16 PM
We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?Yes I applaud him for admitting he took a trail camera.
Can you please explain this type of behavior? You agree cams should be stolen?
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 12:42:04 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 26, 2015, 12:42:43 PM
Post by: Curly on January 26, 2015, 12:43:29 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on January 26, 2015, 12:46:52 PM
Sorry woodblockYou're killin me Smalls. :chuckle:
Post by: Woodchuck on January 26, 2015, 12:48:47 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 26, 2015, 12:50:49 PM
We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?Yes I applaud him for admitting he took a trail camera.
Great....adding a few usernames to my memory bank in this thread.
Just wow.....
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Please?
Post by: nacheshunter on January 26, 2015, 12:54:21 PM
We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?Yes I applaud him for admitting he took a trail camera.
Great....adding a few usernames to my memory bank in this thread.
Just wow.....
So if you took a trail camera, you wouldn't come forward?
Post by: bobcat on January 26, 2015, 12:55:54 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 26, 2015, 12:55:58 PM
We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?Yes I applaud him for admitting he took a trail camera.
Great....adding a few usernames to my memory bank in this thread.
Just wow.....
So if you took a trail camera, you wouldn't come forward?
I wouldn't take a trail camera. Not sure what part of being a good human being you're missing.
I don't steal so I don't have to worry about whether I would come forward or not.
If you habitually don't do something, you don't have to worry about what you'd do if it were the other way around.
If I make a mistake, I will own up to it, but I don't steal.
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 12:56:42 PM
:bash: :bash: :bash:
Then....the theif comes on and says you don't like it tough! Please............Don't try and defend this.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 26, 2015, 12:57:29 PM
I wouldn't take what isn't mine. I don't like to put words in other's mouths but I am sure Jackelope is on the same page here.We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?Yes I applaud him for admitting he took a trail camera.
Great....adding a few usernames to my memory bank in this thread.
Just wow.....
So if you took a trail camera, you wouldn't come forward?
Post by: grundy53 on January 26, 2015, 12:57:49 PM
I wouldn't take a trail camera that wasn't mine.We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?Yes I applaud him for admitting he took a trail camera.
Great....adding a few usernames to my memory bank in this thread.
Just wow.....
So if you took a trail camera, you wouldn't come forward?
Post by: bobcat on January 26, 2015, 12:59:26 PM
(5 on public land)
Post by: grundy53 on January 26, 2015, 01:03:11 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 01:05:03 PM
Post by: bhawley76 on January 26, 2015, 01:05:54 PM
Post by: Curly on January 26, 2015, 01:06:27 PM
We are? What? He is on here saying to steal? You applaud him? For coming forward?Yes I applaud him for admitting he took a trail camera.
Great....adding a few usernames to my memory bank in this thread.
Just wow.....
So if you took a trail camera, you wouldn't come forward?
Well, I guess it was nice of Dave to come forward and answer the question the OP asked about "Who steals trailcams". At least he explained why he and his brother steal and how they justify it in their minds.
I've always wondered myself who steals trail cams. It has been confirmed I think. Thieves steal trailcams and they have their own little justification in their minds that allows them to do it without conscience. :twocents:
Post by: boneaddict on January 26, 2015, 01:21:24 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 26, 2015, 01:34:49 PM
I think nacheshunter should go and have a talk with ol sticky fingers dave and ask for his camera back before calling everyone out. :twocents:
I doubled over laughing when I read this. Ol Sticky Fingers Dave.
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 01:36:59 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 26, 2015, 01:38:48 PM
I thought his honesty was refreshing :yike: but yowzhers!!!
Hey...at least he's honest?!?!
:yike:
Post by: Roosevelt on January 26, 2015, 01:39:35 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 26, 2015, 01:42:41 PM
So next question is... what would you do if you found a trail camera on your private property that was posted no trespassing? Hope this isn't jacking the thread too much.
I would own it.
At least I'm honest. Someone broke the law to put it there on my land.
I'd refer them to the sheriff if they wanted it back.
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 01:45:20 PM
There are of course some variables.....
Say I checked the card and it was a local youth that may have made an honest mistake. A talking too and maybe a Saturday of chores would be the ticket to reclaim the cam.
Lots of what ifs in that scenario but bottom line...private property.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 26, 2015, 01:50:42 PM
Posted and my land, now my cam.:yeah:
There are of course come variable.....
Say I checked the card and it was a local youth that may have made an honest mistake. A talking too and maybe a Saturday of chores would be the ticket to reclaim the cam.
Lots of what ifs in that scenario but bottom line...private property.
Post by: Curly on January 26, 2015, 01:51:40 PM
Post by: Roosevelt on January 26, 2015, 01:55:18 PM
Post by: bhawley76 on January 26, 2015, 01:56:30 PM
C'mon now.....don't you guys think this has taken a turn for the worse? I mean....how bhhaaaaaaad are we gonna bleat up onMy guess is he's roping goats, getting it on movie mode on his new trail cameras. :chuckle:
stickyfingersDave until he has a chance to come back on and tell us that its all a misudderstanding?
Post by: Roosevelt on January 26, 2015, 01:56:49 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 02:09:50 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 26, 2015, 02:17:05 PM
Did you miss this trainwreck P-man?:dunno:
Did the P-man's post get deleted? Is he the unlucky one that got the ban from the itchy trigger finger?
Post by: h20hunter on January 26, 2015, 02:17:48 PM
Post by: Buckmark on January 26, 2015, 02:18:36 PM
Did you miss this trainwreck P-man?He's to busy trying to come up with a plausible explanation as to why the Pats balls lost 1.8-2.0psi and the colts did not..And some good comebacks when his team losses...
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As to the question of my private property, clearly posted and i find a cam on it , i would remove it and leave a note with my contact info, they could have it back if they contacted me depending on attitude..It still is not my trail camera...and attitude would dictate whether i give it back to them or to the local sheriff for them to retrieve.. :twocents:
I have had trespass problems before..
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 26, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
Post by: Dave of TDG-Farms on January 27, 2015, 03:18:56 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on January 27, 2015, 03:27:37 PM
LOL :chuckle: Its ok if you dont like it. I dont need or require you to. Though I think its funny that you can make the jump from "my brother took one" to "better lock up your stuff cause here comes Dave". Typical small mindedness though. Especially cause I wasnt even there when my brother took it. But still agree with him.
You may not need or require us too but there is this little thing called the law and it states that taking someone else's property is illegal. Laugh all you want but you have lost pretty much any respect myself and most other members on the forum might ever have for you. I hope to never run into you into the woods.
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 27, 2015, 03:30:18 PM
LOL :chuckle: Its ok if you dont like it. I dont need or require you to. Though I think its funny that you can make the jump from "my brother took one" to "better lock up your stuff cause here comes Dave". Typical small mindedness though. Especially cause I wasnt even there when my brother took it. But still agree with him.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Anybody who despises somebody who takes another's belongings is small-minded...color me that.
You sound as though you think "somebody is gonna steal it anyway so it might as well be my brother..." maybe not, maybe he one of a small percentage of hunters who are also thieves?
Post by: Buckmark on January 27, 2015, 03:35:44 PM
LOL :chuckle: Its ok if you dont like it. I dont need or require you to. Though I think its funny that you can make the jump from "my brother took one" to "better lock up your stuff cause here comes Dave". Typical small mindedness though. Especially cause I wasnt even there when my brother took it. But still agree with him.You may not of been with him when he took it, but you surely condoned his actions and thought it was just fine, infact using the words "we" and "our" and stating if someone is going to leave something unsecured and in view then they do not deserve to own it and it is yours for the taking...
You are just as guilty of theft as your brother is...
Post by: vandeman17 on January 27, 2015, 03:40:56 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 27, 2015, 03:44:11 PM
LOL :chuckle: Its ok if you dont like it. I dont need or require you to. Though I think its funny that you can make the jump from "my brother took one" to "better lock up your stuff cause here comes Dave". Typical small mindedness though. Especially cause I wasnt even there when my brother took it. But still agree with him.
My reaction was more to your 2nd paragraph where you said "our" and "we". I jumped right to that part...whether you were there or not when he took the camera, you pretty much said word for word you do the same thing.
Here it is for a refresher in case you forgot.
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My brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
Thief.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 27, 2015, 03:45:23 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 27, 2015, 03:53:33 PM
How about this:
http://trinitydairygoatfarms.webs.com/aboutus.htm (http://trinitydairygoatfarms.webs.com/aboutus.htm)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trinity-Dairy-Goat-Farms/180322692011536 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trinity-Dairy-Goat-Farms/180322692011536)
Also, pack goats. Pictures are the same.
http://trinitypackgoats.webs.com/ (http://trinitypackgoats.webs.com/)
Just a reminder for anyone new to the thread.
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 27, 2015, 03:58:46 PM
LOL :chuckle: Its ok if you dont like it. I dont need or require you to. Though I think its funny that you can make the jump from "my brother took one" to "better lock up your stuff cause here comes Dave". Typical small mindedness though. Especially cause I wasnt even there when my brother took it. But still agree with him.
My reaction was more to your 2nd paragraph where you said "our" and "we". I jumped right to that part...whether you were there or not when he took the camera, you pretty much said word for word you do the same thing.
Here it is for a refresher in case you forgot.QuoteMy brother took one this year off a piece of public land we scout and hunt. We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.
Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em. Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it.
Thief.
Boom Shakalaka. Tough to argue there.
The goat man, and others like him, are really good at justification at least in their minds.
Post by: netcoyote on January 27, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
I am truly baffled.
Post by: nacheshunter on January 27, 2015, 04:02:52 PM
And thanks being said, you cant judge what is on the internet. Dave could be saying this to get some chuckles out of responses. You never know who the type of person is behind a keyboard and shouldnt be to quick to judge.
My best friend used to post a lot until you guys started making threats against him and bullying him, so he doesn't progide the useful information that he did anymore.
Post by: vandeman17 on January 27, 2015, 04:05:33 PM
I don't know why you guys are so up tight about someone coming out about commiting a crime, but I have props for this guy coming on here and saying what he and his brother done. Not many people have the guts to say what he did on the internet. Yes you shouldn't take something from the woods as that is a crime in some leo's eyes, but I find that people that come out the past are upfront about it and admit guilt. I helped an ex felon out last year as he was packing a bull out of the wilderness by himself, and admired him of becoming a better person than has past as he overcame obstacles of having a prior drug life.
And thanks being said, you cant judge what is on the internet. Dave could be saying this to get some chuckles out of responses. You never know who the type of person is behind a keyboard and shouldnt be to quick to judge.
My best friend used to post a lot until you guys started making threats against him and bullying him, so he doesn't progide the useful information that he did anymore.
I have no respect for a person who commits a crime and is proud of it. It wasn't a mistake and obviously he is proud of it so no props from me, only disgust. :twocents:
Post by: baker5150 on January 27, 2015, 04:08:12 PM
I don't know why you guys are so up tight about someone coming out about commiting a crime, but I have props for this guy coming on here and saying what he and his brother done. Not many people have the guts to say what he did on the internet. Yes you shouldn't take something from the woods as that is a crime in some leo's eyes, but I find that people that come out the past are upfront about it and admit guilt. I helped an ex felon out last year as he was packing a bull out of the wilderness by himself, and admired him of becoming a better person than has past as he overcame obstacles of having a prior drug life.
And thanks being said, you cant judge what is on the internet. Dave could be saying this to get some chuckles out of responses. You never know who the type of person is behind a keyboard and shouldnt be to quick to judge.
My best friend used to post a lot until you guys started making threats against him and bullying him, so he doesn't progide the useful information that he did anymore.
I get your point, but it would be best served if you were supporting someone who regretted the crime.
This man does not regret it, instead he promotes what his brother has done and will most likely do again.
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 27, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
I don't know why you guys are so up tight about someone coming out about commiting a crime, but I have props for this guy coming on here and saying what he and his brother done. Not many people have the guts to say what he did on the internet. Yes you shouldn't take something from the woods as that is a crime in some leo's eyes, but I find that people that come out the past are upfront about it and admit guilt. I helped an ex felon out last year as he was packing a bull out of the wilderness by himself, and admired him of becoming a better person than has past as he overcame obstacles of having a prior drug life.
And thanks being said, you cant judge what is on the internet. Dave could be saying this to get some chuckles out of responses. You never know who the type of person is behind a keyboard and shouldnt be to quick to judge.
My best friend used to post a lot until you guys started making threats against him and bullying him, so he doesn't progide the useful information that he did anymore.
Dave wasn't admitting he thought those actions were wrong, he said, "you don't like it? tough" that is different than somebody who admitting past failures who is now better.
Maybe we're just pretending to not like thieves...shouldn't be too quick to judge
Post by: jackelope on January 27, 2015, 04:10:12 PM
I don't know why you guys are so up tight about someone coming out about commiting a crime, but I have props for this guy coming on here and saying what he and his brother done. Not many people have the guts to say what he did on the internet. Yes you shouldn't take something from the woods as that is a crime in some leo's eyes, but I find that people that come out the past are upfront about it and admit guilt. I helped an ex felon out last year as he was packing a bull out of the wilderness by himself, and admired him of becoming a better person than has past as he overcame obstacles of having a prior drug life.
And thanks being said, you cant judge what is on the internet. Dave could be saying this to get some chuckles out of responses. You never know who the type of person is behind a keyboard and shouldnt be to quick to judge.
My best friend used to post a lot until you guys started making threats against him and bullying him, so he doesn't progide the useful information that he did anymore.
Obviously this guy doesn't want to own up to his wrong doings. The guy you helped with the elk...realized he made a mistake and is working to make himself a better person. This Dave guy is proud of his wrong doings and doesn't see anything wrong with it.
If he was in the shoes of your elk hunting guy, I'd be proud of him too. He's not though. He's attempting to justify his wrongs.
Post by: h20hunter on January 27, 2015, 04:12:19 PM
THIEF
By the way, nice job on the help with the elk. Completely different scenario.
Post by: Skillet on January 27, 2015, 04:24:17 PM
If it isn't yours, keep your fingers off of it.
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 27, 2015, 04:26:40 PM
Post by: Buckmark on January 27, 2015, 04:28:38 PM
I don't know why you guys are so up tight about someone coming out about commiting a crime, but I have props for this guy coming on here and saying what he and his brother done. Not many people have the guts to say what he did on the internet. Yes you shouldn't take something from the woods as that is a crime in some leo's eyes, but I find that people that come out the past are upfront about it and admit guilt. I helped an ex felon out last year as he was packing a bull out of the wilderness by himself, and admired him of becoming a better person than has past as he overcame obstacles of having a prior drug life.You apparently have never had someone steal from you, like your bike as a kid, or your tackle boxes from your truck, or your trail camera put up on a tree, you think its ok because he had the cahonies to admit it and go even further to say its is ok and tuff...and the person who's property was taken deserved it? Seriously if the person who took my stihl weed eater i just bought last spring and my stihl chainsaw i use every year to cut wood to heat my house came on here and admited he took them you would be ok with it....because he admited it? So if he takes my trail camera i bought with money i earned by making a honest living its ok becasue it is my fault i did not lock it up good enough? I dont care if it is locked or not IT IS NOT YOURS, LEAVE IT ALONE, i am glad you or dave do not hunt or hang out in my area... i would have to lock everything up...
And thanks being said, you cant judge what is on the internet. Dave could be saying this to get some chuckles out of responses. You never know who the type of person is behind a keyboard and shouldnt be to quick to judge.
My best friend used to post a lot until you guys started making threats against him and bullying him, so he doesn't progide the useful information that he did anymore.
Post by: nacheshunter on January 27, 2015, 04:33:11 PM
Man some people. :dunno:...I catch you stealing one of my cams Ill tie you to the tree...dip your fingers in honey and let the ants chew on you for a while. Hard to steal with no fingers...
If it was on private property, go ahead, but on public, dont go to far. A person who did that like what you are saying could be the one who ends up in jail.
If I am not mistaken, even placing a paint packet on a tree is considered a booby trap. No way would I ever threaten someone, or commit a crime when it comes to protecting a trail camera.
Post by: nacheshunter on January 27, 2015, 04:37:07 PM
I don't know why you guys are so up tight about someone coming out about commiting a crime, but I have props for this guy coming on here and saying what he and his brother done. Not many people have the guts to say what he did on the internet. Yes you shouldn't take something from the woods as that is a crime in some leo's eyes, but I find that people that come out the past are upfront about it and admit guilt. I helped an ex felon out last year as he was packing a bull out of the wilderness by himself, and admired him of becoming a better person than has past as he overcame obstacles of having a prior drug life.You apparently have never had someone steal from you, like your bike as a kid, or your tackle boxes from your truck, or your trail camera put up on a tree, you think its ok because he had the cahonies to admit it and go even further to say its is ok and tuff...and the person who's property was taken deserved it? Seriously if the person who took my stihl weed eater i just bought last spring and my stihl chainsaw i use every year to cut wood to heat my house came on here and admited he took them you would be ok with it....because he admited it? So if he takes my trail camera i bought with money i earned by making a honest living its ok becasue it is my fault i did not lock it up good enough? I dont care if it is locked or not IT IS NOT YOURS, LEAVE IT ALONE, i am glad you or dave do not hunt or hang out in my area... i would have to lock everything up...
And thanks being said, you cant judge what is on the internet. Dave could be saying this to get some chuckles out of responses. You never know who the type of person is behind a keyboard and shouldnt be to quick to judge.
My best friend used to post a lot until you guys started making threats against him and bullying him, so he doesn't progide the useful information that he did anymore.
If they had admitted it and have worked to overcome the obstacles associated with their past. Why are you calling me a nogooder? There is no reason to. People make changes for the better and hopefully dave does. I am not a person who thinks it is o.k., but I think it is good that people ADMIT to their past.
Post by: bobcat on January 27, 2015, 04:42:39 PM
Post by: Seahawk12 on January 27, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
Some people will keep an eye open for an opportunity to steal other peoples stuff. Others need little scenarios to justify working around what is right to do what is wrong. Then there are those that have integrity and choose to live with honor. I would like to think that the majority of people would overcome the temptation to take something that isn't theirs regardless of any justification that they may dream up.
I personally reject the justification given.
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We hunt it both muzzle and modern and were pretty sure to run into the owner at some point during the seasons. We did and gave it back to him.First, I wonder if you hadn't "run into the owner", would you have thrown it away? Put it back? Used it yourselves.
Second, I find the justification and claim that it was returned smacks of the bullstuff. Perhaps I should take the word of a person that unapologetically brags about stealing another persons property. :dunno:
In my mind though, a solid code of personal ethics and/or a sense of honor tie thievery and honesty together.
For what it's worth that's my opinion on this subject.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 27, 2015, 04:44:44 PM
There seems to be a part of the story that some are unaware of or have forgotten. I believe Dave did say that the camera was returned to the owner, after removing it from the tree. Still doesn't make it right, but it's not as bad as outright theft. Apparently Dave and his brother felt they were doing the guy a favor. :dunno:I hope he doesn't do me any favors.
Post by: vandeman17 on January 27, 2015, 04:46:51 PM
Man some people. :dunno:...I catch you stealing one of my cams Ill tie you to the tree...dip your fingers in honey and let the ants chew on you for a while. Hard to steal with no fingers...
If it was on private property, go ahead, but on public, dont go to far. A person who did that like what you are saying could be the one who ends up in jail.
If I am not mistaken, even placing a paint packet on a tree is considered a booby trap. No way would I ever threaten someone, or commit a crime when it comes to protecting a trail camera.
As soon as a person steals something of mine all bets are off, especially knowing they are proud of it. Why you keep trying to protect and justify a thief is mind boggling
Post by: Buckmark on January 27, 2015, 04:51:17 PM
You have condoned what Dave did, that puts you in his camp as far as i am concerned which is camp "NoGooders" (need to make a sign), This is not about him making changes, he has never said he was in the wrong, just the opposite, that the person whom he stole from deserved it..and he would do it again...what? why? because he trusted people to leave stuff that is not theirs alone?I don't know why you guys are so up tight about someone coming out about commiting a crime, but I have props for this guy coming on here and saying what he and his brother done. Not many people have the guts to say what he did on the internet. Yes you shouldn't take something from the woods as that is a crime in some leo's eyes, but I find that people that come out the past are upfront about it and admit guilt. I helped an ex felon out last year as he was packing a bull out of the wilderness by himself, and admired him of becoming a better person than has past as he overcame obstacles of having a prior drug life.You apparently have never had someone steal from you, like your bike as a kid, or your tackle boxes from your truck, or your trail camera put up on a tree, you think its ok because he had the cahonies to admit it and go even further to say its is ok and tuff...and the person who's property was taken deserved it? Seriously if the person who took my stihl weed eater i just bought last spring and my stihl chainsaw i use every year to cut wood to heat my house came on here and admited he took them you would be ok with it....because he admited it? So if he takes my trail camera i bought with money i earned by making a honest living its ok becasue it is my fault i did not lock it up good enough? I dont care if it is locked or not IT IS NOT YOURS, LEAVE IT ALONE, i am glad you or dave do not hunt or hang out in my area... i would have to lock everything up...
And thanks being said, you cant judge what is on the internet. Dave could be saying this to get some chuckles out of responses. You never know who the type of person is behind a keyboard and shouldnt be to quick to judge.
My best friend used to post a lot until you guys started making threats against him and bullying him, so he doesn't progide the useful information that he did anymore.
If they had admitted it and have worked to overcome the obstacles associated with their past. Why are you calling me a nogooder? There is no reason to. People make changes for the better and hopefully dave does. I am not a person who thinks it is o.k., but I think it is good that people ADMIT to their past.
Admitting your past, or apologizing for your past crimes does not make them go away, it does not make it ok... Sorry but just because making amends makes (the person who commited the offense) feel better it changes nothing with the person whom the crime was commited against...
Yes we are only talking a trail camera, but is this the kind of morals and values dave and you teach your kids?
I HATE THIEVES....
I work hard for what i have, whatever it is and taking it from me is not ok in any way shape or form.
A 50 dollar trail cam, 400 chainsaw or a 40k truck....
If you find a wallet (or dave for that matter) do you keep it and the money because hey he lost it, it was not secured well enough, tuff......
Im out on this subject
Post by: zwickeyman on January 27, 2015, 05:03:59 PM
It's a real shame
Post by: kentrek on January 27, 2015, 05:05:39 PM
Post by: stevemiller on January 27, 2015, 05:37:50 PM
Post by: 3nails on January 27, 2015, 06:51:08 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: Three chuckle comment!There seems to be a part of the story that some are unaware of or have forgotten. I believe Dave did say that the camera was returned to the owner, after removing it from the tree. Still doesn't make it right, but it's not as bad as outright theft. Apparently Dave and his brother felt they were doing the guy a favor. :dunno:I hope he doesn't do me any favors.
Post by: trophyhunt on January 27, 2015, 06:59:57 PM
Post by: netcoyote on January 28, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
Post by: Curly on January 28, 2015, 11:37:42 AM
There are many threads longer though. One I'm thinking of would take months to read it all........
Post by: Curly on January 28, 2015, 10:39:17 PM
There seems to be a part of the story that some are unaware of or have forgotten. I believe Dave did say that the camera was returned to the owner, after removing it from the tree. Still doesn't make it right, but it's not as bad as outright theft. Apparently Dave and his brother felt they were doing the guy a favor. :dunno:I wonder how that return went down exactly? He said they figured they'd run into the owner of the camera during season. Do they just ask everyone they come across if they had a trail cam stolen?
Post by: Dave of TDG-Farms on February 07, 2015, 02:38:25 AM
Now I know many of you wanted to assume there was a much more devilish story or motive. And as entertaining as its been reading the comments, Im sorry to have to kill that and disappoint. But feel free to continue on. Just let me get some popcorn first. :tup:
Post by: jackelope on February 07, 2015, 06:13:26 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 07, 2015, 06:38:43 AM
Why take it down in the first place?Because that's the way he plays it. Don't like it? Tough.
Post by: grundy53 on February 07, 2015, 06:41:11 AM
Why take it down in the first place?:yeah:
Post by: fastdam on February 07, 2015, 07:04:43 AM
i also think leaving valuable items where strangers come and go for weeks and thinking it will be there when you get back is a bit hopeful. Wrong or right its the world we live in. You cant leave your rifle, wallet or television out along a trail for a couple months and expect it to be there when you get back. The camera is in the same danger.
Some people dont want to be photographed by secret cameras,ever. Those same people probably really dont want yhat kind of harassment when they are making a specific effort to get away from that kind of stuff and outdoors enjoying nature. I personally dont appreciate it.
From my perspective being someone who has no trail cameras and has never found one, it kinda looks like some people feel like they are reserving a hunting spot by putting a camera there. Past threads about cameras and "people were in MY hunting spot" have helped to form that perspective.
Or anyone, who has seen you guys posting pictures of people on your cams and the making fun of them or accusing them of being shady, may not want to be the person in the picture.
This year i am putting a cam up and i would not be surprised if it gets stolen because i am going to abandon it for months in public. I am not going to cry about it because i know thats how things work. I wont be leaving my rifle or anything else there because they would also be gone. Its not realistic to thinkk if people see your camera that they wont mess with it.
Post by: Curly on February 07, 2015, 08:51:19 AM
Taking a trailcam is theft no matter what justification people come up with.
Dave of the farms and his brother at least gave the camera back, but that was still a jerk move to remove the cam. That fellow sportsman lost valuable time when his camera was down. Hopefully karma gets paybacks on you guys.
Post by: netcoyote on February 07, 2015, 03:09:31 PM
:bash:
Post by: mountainman on February 08, 2015, 04:25:36 AM
I am always amazed when jerks seem to act offended when they are called out for doing jerk type stuff.:yeah: world is full of them though..
:bash:
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 08, 2015, 12:59:56 PM
Also, for whomever saved me from having two trail cameras stolen 3 years ago, thank you. Now may I have them back please?
Post by: The scout on February 08, 2015, 01:16:15 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 08, 2015, 01:27:12 PM
just got back from checking my camera with my son. only to find it gone. brush pickers got it. very pissed right now. that's number two stolen for me in the last year
Sorry to hear. Don't worry, I imagine somebody took it to prevent the brush pickers from getting it.
Don't let it stop you.
Post by: vandeman17 on February 09, 2015, 09:45:06 AM
Why would anyone leave a rifle in the woods? If I find a rifle I would assume it is lost. I wouldn't think that about a camera that is setup on a tree.
Taking a trailcam is theft no matter what justification people come up with.
Dave of the farms and his brother at least gave the camera back, but that was still a jerk move to remove the cam. That fellow sportsman lost valuable time when his camera was down. Hopefully karma gets paybacks on you guys.
Exactly. People don't leave a rifle, wallet or whatever out in the woods on purpose but they do with trail cameras. It just boggles my mind the logic that people have regarding "expecting" to have things stolen. It is pretty obvious when my camera is up on a tree, in a box and locked that I fully intend to come back and get it. If its not yours, LEAVE IT ALONE! Simple as that. Maybe if anyone sees Dave's truck parked along the road or in a parking lot they should drive it home since he obviously lost it and if he wants it back he can contact you.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 09, 2015, 10:06:06 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 09, 2015, 11:04:31 AM
Actually it was much easier then that. We told the neighboring land owner if anyone showed up looking for a trail cam to let em know someone "found it" and to give em our number. Even though the property is free to hunt, its not posted as such and you pretty much have to go through this neighboring land owner to hunt it. Whom we know very well. So it played out as expected. They showed up, it was gone, they swung by the land owner to cry about it. He called us and the next day we dropped it off so they could pick it up. We had a chuckle about it when we dropped it off with the land owner. End of story.
Now I know many of you wanted to assume there was a much more devilish story or motive. And as entertaining as its been reading the comments, Im sorry to have to kill that and disappoint. But feel free to continue on. Just let me get some popcorn first. :tup:
Nope, taking someone else's cam off private land is devilish enough. You're either a troll looking for a reaction or a sociopath.
"Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em (That's the biggest line of BS I've ever heard). Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it."
This statement really says it all. You're definitely not part of the brotherhood of hunters and really have very little care for others at all. For you, hunting isn't about tradition and heritage, it's about what's in it for you. I have little doubt that you play fast and loose with the law, as well. You're the guy that picks up his spent shells only if he's sure he can't get away with leaving them, not because it's the right thing to do. Or, when it's 5 minutes past shooting time and you know it, you shoot anyway. Sticking to regulations is just for the "suckers", I'm sure. I sure hope you're not raising children.
Post by: netcoyote on February 09, 2015, 02:06:01 PM
Actually it was much easier then that. We told the neighboring land owner if anyone showed up looking for a trail cam to let em know someone "found it" and to give em our number. Even though the property is free to hunt, its not posted as such and you pretty much have to go through this neighboring land owner to hunt it. Whom we know very well. So it played out as expected. They showed up, it was gone, they swung by the land owner to cry about it. He called us and the next day we dropped it off so they could pick it up. We had a chuckle about it when we dropped it off with the land owner. End of story.
Now I know many of you wanted to assume there was a much more devilish story or motive. And as entertaining as its been reading the comments, Im sorry to have to kill that and disappoint. But feel free to continue on. Just let me get some popcorn first. :tup:
Nope, taking someone else's cam off private land is devilish enough. You're either a troll looking for a reaction or a sociopath.
"Our thinking: On private land we would never touch it NOR even trespass onto the land to see it anyways. We have our own but dont use em (That's the biggest line of BS I've ever heard). Would rather get out there and scout it. Gotta put work in son.
But if you are stupid enough to put a cam on public land without security or even an attempt to hide it, you dont deserve it. Dont like? Tough. Its the way we play it."
This statement really says it all. You're definitely not part of the brotherhood of hunters and really have very little care for others at all. For you, hunting isn't about tradition and heritage, it's about what's in it for you. I have little doubt that you play fast and loose with the law, as well. You're the guy that picks up his spent shells only if he's sure he can't get away with leaving them, not because it's the right thing to do. Or, when it's 5 minutes past shooting time and you know it, you shoot anyway. Sticking to regulations is just for the "suckers", I'm sure. I sure hope you're not raising children.
You nailed it p'man. The guy is a sociopath with an extreme need for control. He does something to violate another person and relishes being in the position of forcing them to come to him to ask for something that he feels he has entire control over. He may, or may not decide to return a stolen item, but HE is in control. He feels he is in control of this thread because he has infuriated so many to comment. The guy has some serious personality issues.
Post by: Torrent50 on February 09, 2015, 09:49:24 PM
Post by: grundy53 on February 10, 2015, 05:06:36 AM
Post by: bhawley76 on February 10, 2015, 06:52:06 AM
he's lucky he didn't steal the wrong persons trail cameras.By taking whats not yours is a real good way to end up on the back of a milk carton up here. There are some straaaange cats up in these hills.
Post by: BNAElkhntr on February 10, 2015, 07:35:34 AM
If I park my truck in the woods on public land I expect someone will take it. And that's okay! Obviously I didn't have it secured well enough, and if they give it back to me within a couple of months, it's all good! :tup:I Agree I Guess all those camps are free for the taking now! or my freshly killed Elk hanging in camp I've always felt that there is Honor among Hunters and sportsman and for the most part never feel safer than when I'm in the woods. But I guess in this new World We are all on our own. But just remember to all the would be Thieves of cameras, trucks, tents, supplies or Big Game Animals. I will treat you the same as I would A burglar to my House and that twig snap you hear might be me coming to check my stuff!
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 10, 2015, 07:38:17 AM
he's lucky he didn't steal the wrong persons trail cameras.By taking whats not yours is a real good way to end up on the back of a milk carton up here. There are some straaaange cats up in these hills.
See, you guys up there would get better coverage if you put the pictures of missing persons on cans of Bud Lite and the backs of Skoal cans. :)
Post by: bhawley76 on February 10, 2015, 07:46:16 AM
Post by: brianmtsinc on February 10, 2015, 09:01:53 AM
People that think it is ok to hurt others (physically, financially, etc...) are what is wrong in this world. It is so simple - Do onto others...
Karma will get them. It is how the world works. :tup:
Post by: h20hunter on February 10, 2015, 09:06:41 AM
How about this:
http://trinitydairygoatfarms.webs.com/aboutus.htm (http://trinitydairygoatfarms.webs.com/aboutus.htm)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trinity-Dairy-Goat-Farms/180322692011536 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trinity-Dairy-Goat-Farms/180322692011536)
Also, pack goats. Pictures are the same.
http://trinitypackgoats.webs.com/ (http://trinitypackgoats.webs.com/)
This guy is a piece of work. That last post was his justificaiton? Unreal. So tired of the excuse about being "abandoned" and not in use. What a BS excuse for thieves to justify their actions.
Post by: crabcreekhunter on February 11, 2015, 05:08:13 PM
Post by: love2archeryhunt on February 11, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
Over the years I have seen quite a few trail cameras in the woods and not once did I steal one.
Post by: trophyhunt on February 11, 2015, 05:30:48 PM
Yup, it's not hard to just walk away and leave people's stuff alone, private or public. Damn simple, and I don't expect my camera to be gone just because it's on public land.
Over the years I have seen quite a few trail cameras in the woods and not once did I steal one.
Post by: bhawley76 on February 12, 2015, 06:58:41 AM
You are so right. Some people just don't get it. :bash:Yup, it's not hard to just walk away and leave people's stuff alone, private or public. Damn simple, and I don't expect my camera to be gone just because it's on public land.
Over the years I have seen quite a few trail cameras in the woods and not once did I steal one.