Post by: huntnphool on January 05, 2015, 03:50:31 PM
If this is you, send me a PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 05, 2015, 03:53:17 PM
Edit after the addition of the sword dude: WTH
Post by: rtspring on January 05, 2015, 03:54:19 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 05, 2015, 04:12:18 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on January 05, 2015, 04:15:42 PM
Post by: scottcrb on January 05, 2015, 04:16:13 PM
Post by: Curly on January 05, 2015, 04:26:13 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 05, 2015, 04:35:32 PM
Who carries a sword around in the woods?Someone who can't legally own a gun?
Anyways, that picture makes one want to pack even more...
Post by: Buck_Nasty11 on January 05, 2015, 05:00:58 PM
Is that second guy headed to go fishing or to a fencing match... :o
im pretty sure thats a ninja knife!!!!!!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 05, 2015, 05:05:25 PM
Post by: lewy on January 05, 2015, 05:09:41 PM
Post by: lokidog on January 05, 2015, 05:23:32 PM
Is that second guy headed to go fishing or to a fencing match... :o
im pretty sure thats a ninja knife!!!!!!
Looks like a really long ceramic knife sharpener, maybe for his ninja sword back in his ninja bag.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 05, 2015, 05:25:33 PM
Lol, phool you can't post those and not tell the story:yeah:
Post by: NW-GSP on January 05, 2015, 05:46:25 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 05, 2015, 05:54:08 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 05, 2015, 05:55:37 PM
The name of the guy in the second pic is Charlie :chuckle:, what the heck is he doing over here.
Really. :yike:
Post by: idahohuntr on January 05, 2015, 06:06:00 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 05, 2015, 06:23:51 PM
could you make out the writing on the first guy's hat?
Theres a name on the A pack
Post by: stew pidasso on January 05, 2015, 06:27:25 PM
Post by: runningboard on January 05, 2015, 06:37:14 PM
Post by: Odell on January 05, 2015, 07:29:27 PM
has the picture been inverted? the American flag on the 1st guys pack is "wrong"
That's how the flag is supposed to be on a patch. Picture it on your arm. Pretend you are running forward into battle with a flag, it will be blowing behind you.
Post by: TheHunt on January 05, 2015, 07:37:28 PM
Post by: whacker1 on January 05, 2015, 07:49:29 PM
I think the first guy was killed by the second guy. :dunno:
This is what I was thinking, but the ninja blade is not bloody
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 05, 2015, 07:56:27 PM
he sewed the patch on wrong... As someone as said there is a name on the pack.
Its a velcro backed IR patch. And the guy has ears only a mother could love.
Post by: Ridgeratt on January 05, 2015, 08:05:08 PM
Who carries a sword around in the woods?
Qiu Chang Kane!!! :chuckle: :dunno: Or Wanna Be!!
It is amazing the amount of folks walking around with swords these days here in Spokane. Alot of them are " Ninja's" all dark clothes and roaming around in the dark.
Post by: ghosthunter on January 05, 2015, 08:07:43 PM
The 2nd guy has a samari sword., cartel, drug runner, grower?
I'd would get out of that area.
Post by: hogslayer on January 05, 2015, 08:08:30 PM
Post by: Curly on January 05, 2015, 08:13:43 PM
Who carries a sword around in the woods?An illegal alien who can't legally buy a firearm. ???
Post by: Bmcox86 on January 05, 2015, 08:20:17 PM
Post by: seth30 on January 05, 2015, 08:53:43 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on January 05, 2015, 08:56:34 PM
Post by: _TONY_ on January 05, 2015, 09:15:09 PM
Post by: X-Force on January 05, 2015, 10:09:05 PM
The first thing that came to mind with guy number 2 was the movie Last Flight of Noah's Ark
Post by: huntnnw on January 05, 2015, 10:17:54 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 05, 2015, 11:18:18 PM
Post by: stevemiller on January 06, 2015, 12:54:47 AM
Post by: C-Money on January 06, 2015, 01:34:01 AM
Post by: whitey on January 06, 2015, 05:39:00 AM
The first guy definetly looks like an LEOYep!!
LEO..
2nd guy!!
Bad guy..
Post by: huntnnw on January 06, 2015, 06:00:05 AM
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 06, 2015, 06:54:58 AM
Post by: Curly on January 06, 2015, 08:06:51 AM
Anybody else spy the bigfoot in the background of the 2nd pic :yike: :yike: :yike:
Good eye! I hadn't noticed the BF when looking on my phone. From the computer, it is easy to spot BF. :tup: Well done! :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 06, 2015, 08:07:54 AM
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 06, 2015, 08:38:28 AM
Anybody else spy the bigfoot in the background of the 2nd pic :yike: :yike: :yike:
Good eye! I hadn't noticed the BF when looking on my phone. From the computer, it is easy to spot BF. :tup: Well done! :tup:
Thanks! Stuck out to me like a sore thumb. It has the Patterson video arm swing going on
Post by: HarboritE on January 06, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
Post by: huntnphool on January 06, 2015, 11:04:04 AM
The first guy definetly looks like an LEOYep!!
LEO..
2nd guy!!
Bad guy..
Thought LEO at first too, now I don't think so, maybe military?
Post by: jackelope on January 06, 2015, 11:13:43 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 06, 2015, 11:27:30 AM
:dunno:
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 06, 2015, 11:55:03 AM
Why is this guy so obviously an LEO?
:dunno:
Didn't you see the beat up citizen at his feet? :yike: Too soon? Sorry! And, I was just kidding.
Post by: kodiak 907 on January 06, 2015, 11:58:51 AM
Post by: poopooheaddad on January 06, 2015, 12:26:57 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 06, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
Post by: bearhunter99 on January 06, 2015, 12:46:14 PM
Obviously its a Russian reconnaissance solider and his Mexican scout. Haven't you all seen Red Dawn?!
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
WOLVERINES!!!!!
Post by: stevemiller on January 06, 2015, 01:12:27 PM
Post by: Curly on January 06, 2015, 01:16:00 PM
Post by: stevemiller on January 06, 2015, 01:18:28 PM
Post by: Curly on January 06, 2015, 01:22:58 PM
Post by: stevemiller on January 06, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 06, 2015, 01:25:37 PM
Post by: Curly on January 06, 2015, 01:29:22 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 06, 2015, 01:30:53 PM
Oh,I didnt know that was illegal,and made you a criminal.Sorry I dont see how anyone could judge either of these guys as bad guys with the info that has been given so far.This is exactly how a anti hunting anti gun person views all of us,How do you like it.
They may not be "bad guys" but I can assure they both are breaking the law.
Post by: Curly on January 06, 2015, 01:32:56 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 06, 2015, 01:33:43 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 06, 2015, 01:33:59 PM
cant wait to hear more about this one, so hear is my idea, your camera is somewhere around lake Chelan, and the second guy is protecting his pot growing grounds....( I know its winter but that's my wag)
Chelan County private property, clearly marked completely around the property, no permission given.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 06, 2015, 01:44:50 PM
Post by: stevemiller on January 06, 2015, 01:50:44 PM
Post by: PolarBear on January 06, 2015, 01:54:41 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on January 06, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
:bash: I've noticed far more problems with trespassing this time of year than anytime during hunting season.cant wait to hear more about this one, so hear is my idea, your camera is somewhere around lake Chelan, and the second guy is protecting his pot growing grounds....( I know its winter but that's my wag)
Chelan County private property, clearly marked completely around the property, no permission given.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 06, 2015, 02:07:55 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 06, 2015, 02:11:31 PM
Guy #1 is probably shed hunting, Guy #2 is probably practicing for his next LARP (Live Action Role Play) event. Some people take it more seriously than others and he is obviously trying to get in character. ;)
:yeah:
Post by: 1bugman on January 06, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on January 06, 2015, 02:30:52 PM
Anyone roaming around with a sword is probably up to no good. If the first guy had the sword and was dressed like he is, I still think something was not right and be concerned. :twocents:
I agree. It could have been the cleanest cut white guy but the combo of that camo and a sword would make me cautious. Would you, Steve, wear that out somewhere and expect someone who walks by you to just smile, wave and chat you up? I sure as heck wouldn't
Post by: JJB11B on January 06, 2015, 02:46:26 PM
Anyone recognize either of them?The guy in the middle is named Charlie I think, That or Hop Singh
If this is you, send me a PM
Post by: kodiak 907 on January 06, 2015, 02:48:06 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on January 06, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
Guy #2 is definitely king of the LARPERS. :chuckle:
Lightening bolt, Lightening bolt, lightening bolt
Post by: JJB11B on January 06, 2015, 02:50:31 PM
has the picture been inverted? the American flag on the 1st guys pack is "wrong"That is the issued IR flag. The US Army uses it even though it is theoretically "Wrong" The excuse is that when worn on the right shoulder it symbolizes advancing toward the fight, not retreating
Post by: kodiak 907 on January 06, 2015, 02:51:07 PM
Post by: kodiak 907 on January 06, 2015, 02:54:26 PM
:yeah: looks like three up on the back of his cap also.has the picture been inverted? the American flag on the 1st guys pack is "wrong"That is the issued IR flag. The US Army uses it even though it is theoretically "Wrong" The excuse is that when worn on the right shoulder it symbolizes advancing toward the fight, not retreating
Post by: JJB11B on January 06, 2015, 02:57:50 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 06, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 06, 2015, 03:11:29 PM
The first guy has a resemblance to a guy that was in some pictures from Idaho. The guy in the Idaho photos was on trail cam destroying wolf snares. Read that he is a predator advocate for wolves and bears and goes looking for wolf poachers, but is from WA out by Twisp. Don't know if it is the guy though.
Really? I've never heard anything about this. Can you post a link?
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 06, 2015, 04:53:11 PM
Post by: Chesapeake on January 06, 2015, 05:48:11 PM
Guy 2 looks to be wearing surplus gear that was issued back in the 90's. Doesn't look to have branch or name tags.
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 06, 2015, 06:35:30 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on January 06, 2015, 06:38:33 PM
This thread is def., a judging a book by its cover thread,What makes guy number one a good guy and guy number 2 a bad guy?Hair length? cant be,skin color? no way.clothing? come on really?Can someone who thinks the 1st guy is a good guy and the second a bad guy please tell us why you think so.
Duh, the sword...He is obviously cartel and growing pot.
MS
:chuckle:
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 06, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
Post by: TRD1911 on January 06, 2015, 09:13:34 PM
Post by: huntnnw on January 06, 2015, 09:38:26 PM
Post by: Jellymon on January 07, 2015, 02:58:43 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 07, 2015, 06:38:53 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 07, 2015, 07:14:12 AM
Samauri sword=danger... You'd better gtfo of the area. He is tending his huge marijuana grow. He most likely has developed a strain that buds in the winter, probably getting ready to cut his winter greens as we speak. Everyone knows the best outdoor bud blooms in the winter when the days are long and the temps are warm lol! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I thought legalizing MJ was supposed to put the cartels out of business. :rolleyes:
Post by: MuleySniper on January 07, 2015, 07:29:39 AM
Samauri sword=danger... You'd better gtfo of the area. He is tending his huge marijuana grow. He most likely has developed a strain that buds in the winter, probably getting ready to cut his winter greens as we speak. Everyone knows the best outdoor bud blooms in the winter when the days are long and the temps are warm lol! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I thought legalizing MJ was supposed to put the cartels out of business. :rolleyes:
Cmon now we can't call them Cartel anymore if they have been in the US longer than 5 years lol
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 07, 2015, 07:32:47 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 07, 2015, 07:33:18 AM
Post by: Becky on January 07, 2015, 07:37:13 AM
How does a dumb thread like this survive 4+ pages anyway?Maybe it was the only thread that would load during the last week of forum issues :chuckle:
Post by: woodsmen on January 07, 2015, 07:48:31 AM
Post by: huntnphool on January 07, 2015, 10:24:01 AM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 07, 2015, 11:12:48 AM
Post by: skeeter 20i on January 07, 2015, 11:15:52 AM
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the 1st guy looks similar to rangefinder101.....
The plot thickens :tinfoil:
Post by: Woodchuck on January 07, 2015, 11:18:22 AM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 07, 2015, 11:20:58 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 07, 2015, 11:24:42 AM
Damn autocorrect, pathfinder 101...
Way too young for him, and I can't believe he would do something like that anyways! :twocents:
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 07, 2015, 11:29:53 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on January 07, 2015, 11:38:13 AM
cant wait to hear more about this one, so hear is my idea, your camera is somewhere around lake Chelan, and the second guy is protecting his pot growing grounds....( I know its winter but that's my wag)
Chelan County private property, clearly marked completely around the property, no permission given.
Post by: MuleySniper on January 07, 2015, 11:40:50 AM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 07, 2015, 11:43:01 AM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 07, 2015, 11:44:29 AM
Post by: Curly on January 07, 2015, 11:53:41 AM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 07, 2015, 11:55:50 AM
Woodblock.......... :chuckle:
My God, stupid kindle!! Lol
Post by: Curly on January 07, 2015, 11:57:22 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on January 07, 2015, 12:00:32 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: JJB11B on January 07, 2015, 02:05:05 PM
That guy is WAY to tall to be Pathfinder 101. and he doesnt trespass, or hang out in that areaDamn autocorrect, pathfinder 101...
Way too young for him, and I can't believe he would do something like that anyways! :twocents:
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 07, 2015, 02:10:57 PM
I'm surprised nobody on here recognizes the first guy, either that or nobody is willing to admit they or their buddy have no regard for posted property boundaries.
Tough break. The snitches must be too busy to be surfing the forum. :chuckle:
Post by: CamoDup on January 07, 2015, 02:24:11 PM
I've seen guy #1 before, can't place him though.
Thats the first thing that came to my mind also.
Post by: cougarbart on January 07, 2015, 02:25:07 PM
Post by: M_ray on January 07, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
I'm surprised nobody on here recognizes the first guy, either that or nobody is willing to admit they or their buddy have no regard for posted property boundaries.
Tough break. The snitches must be too busy to be surfing the forum. :chuckle:
Wow, guess we all know where your ethics stand now!
Post by: Seahawk12 on January 07, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Ask yourself this, if you are unarmed (it's hypothetical) and see each of these men coming towards you down the trail, does one make you more nervous than the other? I can honestly say that a shaggy looking guy with a sword is going to have the prejudice meter in me topping out like a thermometer in death valley in July at lunch time.
Now change/switch their attire and accessories up. I'm still more worried about the shaggy guy with the sword. Skin color doesn't bother me. Unbalanced behavior does grab my attention, and walking around the woods with a sword is not an action that I would mark down in the mentally "balanced" category.
Some prejudices are hard wired survival instinct. Labeling these prejudices as racism is inaccurate. :twocents:
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 07, 2015, 03:01:53 PM
Post by: T Pearce on January 07, 2015, 03:13:50 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 07, 2015, 03:38:22 PM
Woodblock huh? Ok, I got something for that. >:(
:chuckle:
:P
Post by: mountainman on January 07, 2015, 03:50:13 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on January 07, 2015, 03:53:52 PM
OK, 257, Because of this you will now be severely punished. :bash:Woodblock huh? Ok, I got something for that. >:(
:chuckle:
:P
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 07, 2015, 04:41:20 PM
The discussion on the good guy or bad guy topic of this thread is interesting.
Ask yourself this, if you are unarmed (it's hypothetical) and see each of these men coming towards you down the trail, does one make you more nervous than the other? I can honestly say that a shaggy looking guy with a sword is going to have the prejudice meter in me topping out like a thermometer in death valley in July at lunch time.
Now change/switch their attire and accessories up. I'm still more worried about the shaggy guy with the sword. Skin color doesn't bother me. Unbalanced behavior does grab my attention, and walking around the woods with a sword is not an action that I would mark down in the mentally "balanced" category.
Some prejudices are hard wired survival instinct. Labeling these prejudices as racism is inaccurate. :twocents:
Yeah and the other guy could be some highly trained special ops dude like Jason Bourne. He looks harmless until your neck is snapped! Or he could be one of those homosexuals and you know what they will do to you if the catch you in the woods. Deliverance...
Post by: Seahawk12 on January 07, 2015, 06:38:41 PM
The discussion on the good guy or bad guy topic of this thread is interesting.
Ask yourself this, if you are unarmed (it's hypothetical) and see each of these men coming towards you down the trail, does one make you more nervous than the other? I can honestly say that a shaggy looking guy with a sword is going to have the prejudice meter in me topping out like a thermometer in death valley in July at lunch time.
Now change/switch their attire and accessories up. I'm still more worried about the shaggy guy with the sword. Skin color doesn't bother me. Unbalanced behavior does grab my attention, and walking around the woods with a sword is not an action that I would mark down in the mentally "balanced" category.
Some prejudices are hard wired survival instinct. Labeling these prejudices as racism is inaccurate. :twocents:
Yeah and the other guy could be some highly trained special ops dude like Jason Bourne. He looks harmless until your neck is snapped! Or he could be one of those homosexuals and you know what they will do to you if the catch you in the woods. Deliverance...
Yeah. You're right. Could be.
However, I am referring to natural and instinctive evaluation of threat levels. If you go through life putting everyone on the same threat level then paranoia has likely set in.
There are people out there that plainly display that they are not to be trusted. This is where your instinctive prejudice pays off.
If even 1% of the "normal" looking people were actually psychopaths then I don't believe that society as we know it could function.
Post by: mountainman on January 07, 2015, 06:50:04 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 07, 2015, 06:56:55 PM
Some people have no regard for posted property...some frequent this forum. :bash:
Are you saying the guys in the photo's are members here?
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 07, 2015, 07:01:39 PM
Post by: winslow on January 07, 2015, 07:01:45 PM
This is an interesting read about learning to trust our instincts (and how not trusting them can have dire consequences)The discussion on the good guy or bad guy topic of this thread is interesting.
Ask yourself this, if you are unarmed (it's hypothetical) and see each of these men coming towards you down the trail, does one make you more nervous than the other? I can honestly say that a shaggy looking guy with a sword is going to have the prejudice meter in me topping out like a thermometer in death valley in July at lunch time.
Now change/switch their attire and accessories up. I'm still more worried about the shaggy guy with the sword. Skin color doesn't bother me. Unbalanced behavior does grab my attention, and walking around the woods with a sword is not an action that I would mark down in the mentally "balanced" category.
Some prejudices are hard wired survival instinct. Labeling these prejudices as racism is inaccurate. :twocents:
Yeah and the other guy could be some highly trained special ops dude like Jason Bourne. He looks harmless until your neck is snapped! Or he could be one of those homosexuals and you know what they will do to you if the catch you in the woods. Deliverance...
Yeah. You're right. Could be.
However, I am referring to natural and instinctive evaluation of threat levels. If you go through life putting everyone on the same threat level then paranoia has likely set in.
There are people out there that plainly display that they are not to be trusted. This is where your instinctive prejudice pays off.
If even 1% of the "normal" looking people were actually psychopaths then I don't believe that society as we know it could function.
http://breakingmuscle.com/books-dvds/book-review-gift-fear-gavin-de-becker
Post by: coachcw on January 07, 2015, 07:45:30 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 07, 2015, 08:09:14 PM
The discussion on the good guy or bad guy topic of this thread is interesting.
Ask yourself this, if you are unarmed (it's hypothetical) and see each of these men coming towards you down the trail, does one make you more nervous than the other? I can honestly say that a shaggy looking guy with a sword is going to have the prejudice meter in me topping out like a thermometer in death valley in July at lunch time.
Now change/switch their attire and accessories up. I'm still more worried about the shaggy guy with the sword. Skin color doesn't bother me. Unbalanced behavior does grab my attention, and walking around the woods with a sword is not an action that I would mark down in the mentally "balanced" category.
Some prejudices are hard wired survival instinct. Labeling these prejudices as racism is inaccurate. :twocents:
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Plus I would give him a wide birth going off the trail. :tup:
Post by: csaaphill on January 07, 2015, 08:30:51 PM
Now that the op has chimed in with more info,My point is well proven.Both breaking the law.Picture 1 clean cut short hair,well dressed. While the 2nd is what some have considered out of the norm.Both breaking the law.As for the guy walking in the city with rifle slung, no I dont think it should warrant any LEO interferance of his or her second unless a crime has or can be shown will soon happen for some reason. :twocents::yeah:
Post by: hunter100 on January 07, 2015, 10:00:12 PM
Post by: winslow on January 08, 2015, 05:54:47 AM
I heard a story of a couple hunters stopped eating lunch on a deer hunt in back woods of Idaho. They look up and about 20 yards away is two guys stalking them in pitch black with swords. The hunters raised there gun and said something like one more step u guys are dead. Never thought the story was real or gave any thought till now.....4 men enter, 2 men leave...
Post by: TeacherMan on January 08, 2015, 07:44:25 PM
Post by: stevemiller on January 09, 2015, 01:07:01 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 09, 2015, 05:07:51 AM
Post by: whitey on January 09, 2015, 06:04:18 AM
Thats not the funny part :yeah: the funny part is the hypocrisy. :bash: gun = bad (no) sword does though.(no)They were apparantly trespassing,both of them.what if the guy with the machete was just looking to cut some roasting sticks to cook some hot dogs,Build a blind,whatever.How many on here own a sog kit with a machete,or have a bear grylls machete?Whats bad about it?b Hey watch out for your shadow :chuckle: quiet i just heard something :yike: WHAT WAS THAT? :'(
Nothing bad about the machete thing unless you look like a serial killer. :yike:
But the Hot Dogs sound good.. :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 09, 2015, 06:15:41 AM
Post by: antlerking on January 09, 2015, 06:19:34 AM
Post by: poopooheaddad on January 09, 2015, 06:32:15 AM
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2015, 07:46:33 AM
This is fun, but I am willing to bet that you wont see either of them again,,,,,man #1 I agree with someone else stated that he is possibly working for DNR or fish and game (good possibility) and is probably just traveling through. Guy #2, in the third picture, has his body, face so close to the camera that I bet he has seen it, and does not want to draw attention to him self, he will not steal the camera but he will not travel that trail again.
It's not F&G, they are always respectful and make contact first.
Post by: Hornseeker on January 09, 2015, 07:50:54 AM
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sog kit with a machete,or have a bear grylls machete?
I'd be more willing to say I was the guy number two in the pic than admit I have "bear grylls" machete...
Post by: TheHunt on January 09, 2015, 07:55:50 AM
As a side note, I am not sure 257's woodblock is illegal as long as the wood receptor has a choice. Sorry 257, I could not resist. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Woodchuck on January 09, 2015, 08:00:52 AM
Post by: baker5150 on January 09, 2015, 08:24:31 AM
Were I walking with my girls and we came upon someone with a sword in the woods, we would immediately be taking another route and dialing 911. He may be quite innocent. I wouldn't be assuming that. I would let the cops sort that out.
You would call 911? Why?
He has every right to carry that sword, odd, but not necessarily up to no good.
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on January 09, 2015, 08:36:23 AM
Post by: blacktailer on January 09, 2015, 08:36:44 AM
He has every right to carry that sword, odd, but not necessarily up to no good.
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My thoughts as well.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 09, 2015, 08:44:39 AM
:yeah: would you call the cops if he was open carrying a side arm?
No, a sidearm wouldn't bother me. A sword? That's a little different. Tell me this: if it were someone in Muslim garb carrying a sword, how would you feel? If the answer is that you would feel threatened then this guy is no different. Still a threat and still a really weird weapon to be carrying in the woods. My :twocents:
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 09, 2015, 08:50:00 AM
I'd also be more wary of a guy with his pants around his ankles, vs. belted around his waist.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 09, 2015, 08:54:13 AM
Guy carrying an unsheathed sword = not normal. I'd also be wary of a guy carrying a long gun shouldered, or an unholstered handgun. Not criminal, not normal; my spidey sense would be tingling.
I'd also be more wary of a guy with his pants around his ankles, vs. belted around his waist.
:yeah: We he walking around holding the sidearm, I'd also be alarmed and would likely do the same thing. Where this guy walking with that sword in a scabbard, I probably wouldn't do more than raise my awareness as we passed, and put the girls on the other side of me.
Post by: cbond3318 on January 09, 2015, 09:02:09 AM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on January 09, 2015, 09:05:18 AM
im not saying its not weird or suspicious i just dont think it warrants calling the cops on people not breaking a law or threatening to :twocents:
Post by: Fishnfowler on January 09, 2015, 09:13:43 AM
Post by: baker5150 on January 09, 2015, 09:14:27 AM
:yeah: would you call the cops if he was open carrying a side arm?
No, a sidearm wouldn't bother me. A sword? That's a little different. Tell me this: if it were someone in Muslim garb carrying a sword, how would you feel? If the answer is that you would feel threatened then this guy is no different. Still a threat and still a really weird weapon to be carrying in the woods. My :twocents:
Big difference between feeling threatened, and being threatened. A guy in Muslim garb in the woods with a sword is very odd, still does not constitute a call to 911, unless he has done something illegal.
Is a guy in full camo carrying an AR in the woods any different? Or just more of what we/you believe to be normal.
Post by: h20hunter on January 09, 2015, 09:22:57 AM
When in the field I try and conduct myself in a manner, armed or not, that does not raise suspicion or alarm. If I conduct myself in a manner that leads someone to question my motives and they feel the need to have me checked up on, well that is their right.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 09, 2015, 09:30:42 AM
Post by: baker5150 on January 09, 2015, 09:36:07 AM
I simply wouldn't worry/care if I hurt someones feelings by callling 911 if I felt it was warranted. My gut tells me the first guy is hiking, scouting, something. Maybe his worst offense is trespassing knowingly or not. 2nd guy, simply looks like he is up to no good. His demeanor, his clothing, his sword, his posture....everying makes my gut question his motives. I'd rather be wrong, made fun of, whatever...than not listen to my gut and have things go bad.
When in the field I try and conduct myself in a manner, armed or not, that does not raise suspicion or alarm. If I conduct myself in a manner that leads someone to question my motives and they feel the need to have me checked up on, well that is their right.
I get it, just can't agree with it. I don't want people calling the cops on me when I have done nothing to warrant it.
I have no issue with giving the guy a wide birth, and I would, but theres no reason in my mind to LE involved.
Post by: baker5150 on January 09, 2015, 09:39:19 AM
Sorry, just how I feel. Again, sheathed, no problem. Holstered, no problem. Carrying a sword or a pistol out - my bells are all going off. So, I'm a pansy I guess. So be it.
Its got nothing to do with being a pansy, And I have no issue with guys trusting their gut instinct.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Post by: h20hunter on January 09, 2015, 09:43:50 AM
I simply wouldn't worry/care if I hurt someones feelings by callling 911 if I felt it was warranted. My gut tells me the first guy is hiking, scouting, something. Maybe his worst offense is trespassing knowingly or not. 2nd guy, simply looks like he is up to no good. His demeanor, his clothing, his sword, his posture....everying makes my gut question his motives. I'd rather be wrong, made fun of, whatever...than not listen to my gut and have things go bad.
When in the field I try and conduct myself in a manner, armed or not, that does not raise suspicion or alarm. If I conduct myself in a manner that leads someone to question my motives and they feel the need to have me checked up on, well that is their right.
I get it, just can't agree with it. I don't want people calling the cops on me when I have done nothing to warrant it.
I have no issue with giving the guy a wide birth, and I would, but theres no reason in my mind to LE involved.
Not a problem Baker. This thing is we can't control how people perceive us. So, if we conduct ourselves in a reasonble manner then 99% of the time it will be non issue. So, if and when it does happen it will be very infrequently and simply not an issue.
Post by: bhawley76 on January 09, 2015, 09:53:19 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 09, 2015, 09:54:42 AM
I simply wouldn't worry/care if I hurt someones feelings by callling 911 if I felt it was warranted. My gut tells me the first guy is hiking, scouting, something. Maybe his worst offense is trespassing knowingly or not. 2nd guy, simply looks like he is up to no good. His demeanor, his clothing, his sword, his posture....everying makes my gut question his motives. I'd rather be wrong, made fun of, whatever...than not listen to my gut and have things go bad.
When in the field I try and conduct myself in a manner, armed or not, that does not raise suspicion or alarm. If I conduct myself in a manner that leads someone to question my motives and they feel the need to have me checked up on, well that is their right.
I get it, just can't agree with it. I don't want people calling the cops on me when I have done nothing to warrant it.
I have no issue with giving the guy a wide birth, and I would, but theres no reason in my mind to LE involved.
How often do you walk around in the woods with a sword in your hand? I've been approached by literally thousands of armed people in the woods. Not one was carrying a sword in his hands. Ever, none.
Post by: baker5150 on January 09, 2015, 10:00:16 AM
I simply wouldn't worry/care if I hurt someones feelings by callling 911 if I felt it was warranted. My gut tells me the first guy is hiking, scouting, something. Maybe his worst offense is trespassing knowingly or not. 2nd guy, simply looks like he is up to no good. His demeanor, his clothing, his sword, his posture....everying makes my gut question his motives. I'd rather be wrong, made fun of, whatever...than not listen to my gut and have things go bad.
When in the field I try and conduct myself in a manner, armed or not, that does not raise suspicion or alarm. If I conduct myself in a manner that leads someone to question my motives and they feel the need to have me checked up on, well that is their right.
I get it, just can't agree with it. I don't want people calling the cops on me when I have done nothing to warrant it.
I have no issue with giving the guy a wide birth, and I would, but theres no reason in my mind to LE involved.
Not a problem Baker. This thing is we can't control how people perceive us. So, if we conduct ourselves in a reasonble manner then 99% of the time it will be non issue. So, if and when it does happen it will be very infrequently and simply not an issue.
Great point,
What irks me is I have had this happen to me. Me and a buddy bear hunting met a couple on the trail up the mountain, they heading down, us up. Asked if anyone else in the area and they said no, just a bunch of blue berries, nice and courteous. We hiked around for a few hours and ran into others headed up so we left. Only to have a LEO waiting for us at the trailhead.
He checked us out, no big deal, but was told we were making people uncomfortable hunting in an area with hikers, they didn't feel like we should be in there. He was friendly, and annoyed by the complaint like we were.
What bothered me most was the HUGE waste of time he endured responding, just to check up on 2 guys doing nothing illegal at all.
We were 13 miles up a gravel road that was another 20 miles from the nearest town. All because someones feelings were hurt.
Post by: h20hunter on January 09, 2015, 10:02:15 AM
Post by: baker5150 on January 09, 2015, 10:02:21 AM
I simply wouldn't worry/care if I hurt someones feelings by callling 911 if I felt it was warranted. My gut tells me the first guy is hiking, scouting, something. Maybe his worst offense is trespassing knowingly or not. 2nd guy, simply looks like he is up to no good. His demeanor, his clothing, his sword, his posture....everying makes my gut question his motives. I'd rather be wrong, made fun of, whatever...than not listen to my gut and have things go bad.
When in the field I try and conduct myself in a manner, armed or not, that does not raise suspicion or alarm. If I conduct myself in a manner that leads someone to question my motives and they feel the need to have me checked up on, well that is their right.
I get it, just can't agree with it. I don't want people calling the cops on me when I have done nothing to warrant it.
I have no issue with giving the guy a wide birth, and I would, but theres no reason in my mind to LE involved.
How often do you walk around in the woods with a sword in your hand? I've been approached by literally thousands of armed people in the woods. Not one was carrying a sword in his hands. Ever, none.
So because you've never seen it before it must be a bad thing? C'mon man.
Post by: bobcat on January 09, 2015, 10:26:22 AM
Post by: Curly on January 09, 2015, 10:30:02 AM
Post by: stevemiller on January 09, 2015, 10:31:51 AM
Post by: Curly on January 09, 2015, 10:33:26 AM
Post by: stevemiller on January 09, 2015, 10:40:22 AM
Post by: stevemiller on January 09, 2015, 10:42:40 AM
Post by: runamuk on January 09, 2015, 10:44:09 AM
Now as for a sword I was hiking up on the Olympic Penn and ran across a guy also hiking he had a sword in his pack same as I had a gun in mine he wasnt even a little creep-o-meter just a young guy out doing his thing.
The skewer guy in the pic sets off all of my alarms and I would stay far away from him. I listen to my creep-o-meter and so far it has kept me from being raped more than once.
bummer they are tresspassing
Post by: floatinghat on January 09, 2015, 10:49:16 AM
Not a problem Baker. This thing is we can't control how people perceive us. So, if we conduct ourselves in a reasonable manner then 99% of the time it will be non issue. So, if and when it does happen it will be very infrequently and simply not an issue.
I disagree we can change perception by actions and attire. The perceptions might not always be accurate but they are our individual realities, you need to know when to question yourself. Walking around with a sword is just weird. Things that are weird or different get attention either positive or negative.
Would I call the cops, don't think so. I would think about getting off the trail and watching my back for a few minutes. When in the woods I carry a 9 for 2 legged threats and spray for 4 leggers.
Post by: h20hunter on January 09, 2015, 10:51:16 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 09, 2015, 10:52:13 AM
another point would be,if that is in deed a sword it has to be the shortest sword i have ever seen its not even arm length by the pic. :dunno:
It looks like a short katana to me.
Post by: skeeter 20i on January 09, 2015, 11:16:56 AM
Situation dictates response.
Post by: runamuk on January 09, 2015, 11:36:01 AM
except the handle is not wrapped there is zero curve and there is no flat blade :dunno:.... it looks like those Brazillian bbq skewers used to hold meat over a flame churro something or other, I immediately thought it was a chefs knife sharpener actually with a sharpened point. plain wood handle is unlike any sword I have ever stumbled across. Its also not a machete because again it would be flat and blade like I have dedicated way more time than I should to this, lol but I love a mystery. I swear I have seen that guy in some other trail cam pic possibly not on huntwa.another point would be,if that is in deed a sword it has to be the shortest sword i have ever seen its not even arm length by the pic. :dunno:
It looks like a short katana to me.
Post by: whitey on January 09, 2015, 11:39:34 AM
They are Chupacabra hunters.. :yike:
Just a thought. :dunno:
Post by: Curly on January 09, 2015, 11:44:42 AM
Post by: WSU on January 09, 2015, 11:49:31 AM
Post by: lokidog on January 09, 2015, 11:50:06 AM
Could it be the angle of the pic makes it so you can't see the side of the blade? I thought the angle in one pic was looking at the back side of the blade and the other pic was straight on, preventing a view showing the width of the blade. :dunno: In any event it is strange.
That would be quite the coincidence to have it edge on in two different pics from two different angles. :dunno: I thought from the beginning it looked like a sharpened rod of some type. Still weird though.
Post by: whacker1 on January 09, 2015, 11:56:17 AM
Why the suspense? Just tell us who it is already!
Yes, back on topic...does anyone know the individuals or not?
huntnphool....did anyone p.m. the identies, so we can kill this thread that will never die or is the information still off the radar?
Post by: NRA4LIFE on January 09, 2015, 11:58:26 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 09, 2015, 12:00:27 PM
Not much else going on really. :tup:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 09, 2015, 12:09:24 PM
Post by: skeeter 20i on January 09, 2015, 12:43:28 PM
He just doesn't want to take a stab at this thread since it has already been hacked up enough by the rest of us.
I see what you did there, pretty sharp. :chuckle:
Post by: stevemiller on January 09, 2015, 12:44:58 PM
Post by: Buckmark on January 09, 2015, 12:52:28 PM
May be staged pics, with a "lets see what people perceive"..??
Post by: Seahawk12 on January 09, 2015, 01:29:51 PM
Here's a pic of a guy clearing a little brush out of the woods wearing safety gear like a responsible person.
Nothing to worry about.
Post by: stromdiddily on January 09, 2015, 01:34:57 PM
Social experiment eh?
Here's a pic of a guy clearing a little brush out of the woods wearing safety gear like a responsible person.
Nothing to worry about.
It's not blood, it's from the berries. I swear
Post by: cbond3318 on January 09, 2015, 01:56:31 PM
Post by: quadrafire on January 09, 2015, 02:07:51 PM
Why does anybody care about this?:chuckle:
That is what I was thinking as well.
Post by: skeeter 20i on January 09, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
Post by: Gutpile on January 09, 2015, 03:22:06 PM
^^^and yet here you are :hello:
:chuckle: :tup:
Post by: bobcat on January 09, 2015, 03:26:43 PM
Post by: Seahawk12 on January 09, 2015, 03:33:32 PM
^^^and yet here you are :hello::yeah:
Post by: Curly on January 09, 2015, 03:35:07 PM
I care because I want to know what the heck the guy was doing with a sword. And if it's not a sword, I want to know what it is. I still think it was steve miller. :chuckle:
Well, I can hear "Jungle Love" playing while picturing him walking down the trail with whatever that thing is he's carrying....... 8)
Post by: stevemiller on January 09, 2015, 04:23:09 PM
Post by: Curly on January 09, 2015, 04:27:21 PM
Post by: stevemiller on January 09, 2015, 04:28:31 PM
Post by: Curly on January 09, 2015, 04:29:07 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 09, 2015, 04:49:49 PM
Post by: TheHunt on January 09, 2015, 05:36:50 PM
The second guy has to be affiliated with woodblock !!! Grin
You would know 257... :chuckle:
Post by: quadrafire on January 09, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
:tup: :chuckle:^^^and yet here you are :hello:
:chuckle: :tup:
And I'm back again to find out what the H*&k is going on......lol
Post by: 6haase6 on January 09, 2015, 06:35:29 PM
Post by: montana44mag on January 09, 2015, 07:02:11 PM
I'm only half kidding! :peep:
Post by: kodiak 907 on January 09, 2015, 07:18:15 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 09, 2015, 07:22:37 PM
The second guy has to be affiliated with woodblock !!! Grin
You would know 257... :chuckle:
Ahhhh hell, the second guys name is Jim, and he lives in puyallup!!!! Lmao
Post by: Seahawk12 on January 09, 2015, 07:42:06 PM
Guy from pic 2 is Jim from Puyallup and he's trying to foil an evil plot by a bunch of Spetznaz scum. He was trained in the art of war by the girls in the movie "Kill Bill."
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 09, 2015, 07:50:10 PM
Post by: TheHunt on January 09, 2015, 08:45:51 PM
Post by: kukusya on January 09, 2015, 08:58:12 PM
Tag
Post by: Antlershed on January 09, 2015, 10:36:23 PM
Like I said, this thread has legs. Squatch and a whole truckload of lesbians has got nothing on this one! :chuckle:Is there a thread with a truckload of lesbians? How'd I miss that one and end up here? :chuckle:
Post by: skeeter 20i on January 09, 2015, 11:01:23 PM
Like I said, this thread has legs. Squatch and a whole truckload of lesbians has got nothing on this one! :chuckle:Is there a thread with a truckload of lesbians? How'd I miss that one and end up here? :chuckle:
Not sure but there is a thread about pink car avatars that is pretty suspect if u ask me
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 14, 2015, 06:33:52 PM
Like I said, this thread has legs. Squatch and a whole truckload of lesbians has got nothing on this one! :chuckle:Is there a thread with a truckload of lesbians? How'd I miss that one and end up here? :chuckle:
I'm with Brent, I like the truckload of lesbians thread!!
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 14, 2015, 06:35:04 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 30, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
Anyone recognize these guys, send me a PM please.
Post by: 2labs on September 30, 2015, 10:39:49 PM
Post by: scoyoc5 on September 30, 2015, 10:51:46 PM
Post by: runamuk on September 30, 2015, 10:52:32 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 30, 2015, 11:52:31 PM
Phool, look at the apples stuck in his roof rack! He's been bushwhacking. :chuckle:
Trust me, nobody is happy about that! ;)
Post by: 2labs on September 30, 2015, 11:57:52 PM
Post by: Pigfuz on October 01, 2015, 12:00:31 AM
Post by: huntnphool on October 01, 2015, 12:22:43 AM
Take it to your local LEOs and see if they can do some investigating. Its not like it would be hard to prove they were there and it wouldn't be hard to figure out who they were with that license plate. Just saying, You would probably have a lot better chance of making a difference and putting an end to your poaching if you took that route. Problem is that if you wait to long, then the less likely they are to do something with it. What is a more exact location than "Pacific Northwest"?
Thanks for the advice, and just for the record, LEO are always given these images and reported. But as we so often see, the reports can take months/years before anything is done. By posting images of "your buddies" and letting the hunting communities know who is less than credible, it may help give them and their friends a reason to think twice before they trespass. ;)
"Your buddies" is not directed at you specifically, but just used as a general term for those reading. ;)
Post by: bobcat on October 01, 2015, 12:25:40 AM
Is that a beer the other guy is carrying?
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 01, 2015, 12:34:07 AM
Post by: huntnphool on October 01, 2015, 12:42:50 AM
Maybe you need to post the land better! Seems like a lot of guys think it's public land. Can't just complain and not have it posted properly or gated off.
:chuckle: Who's responsibility is it? I'm not going to get into a long drawn out discussion but just to let you know, it's your responsibility to know where the property lines are! ;)
And FYI, it's posted very well, and how many apple orchards do you see on public land?
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 01, 2015, 01:01:12 AM
Maybe you need to post the land better! Seems like a lot of guys think it's public land. Can't just complain and not have it posted properly or gated off.
:chuckle: Who's responsibility is it? I'm not going to get into a long drawn out discussion but just to let you know, it's your responsibility to know where the property lines are! ;)
And FYI, it's posted very well, and how many apple orchards do you see on public land?
It's your responsibility to post correctly. It's their responsibility to know where they are hunting. I use to hunt an old orchard near Winthrop. 100% public land. Obviously if someone can drive their car in its not gated/posted well enough. Just letting you know! Take someone to court and don't have your land posted you'll probably lose.
Post by: 2labs on October 01, 2015, 01:09:40 AM
Post by: jdb on October 01, 2015, 04:34:00 AM
Maybe you need to post the land better! Seems like a lot of guys think it's public land. Can't just complain and not have it posted properly or gated off.really?
Post by: HntnFsh on October 01, 2015, 05:50:04 AM
Maybe you need to post the land better! Seems like a lot of guys think it's public land. Can't just complain and not have it posted properly or gated off.
:chuckle: Who's responsibility is it? I'm not going to get into a long drawn out discussion but just to let you know, it's your responsibility to know where the property lines are! ;)
And FYI, it's posted very well, and how many apple orchards do you see on public land?
It's your responsibility to post correctly. It's their responsibility to know where they are hunting. I use to hunt an old orchard near Winthrop. 100% public land. Obviously if someone can drive their car in its not gated/posted well enough. Just letting you know! Take someone to court and don't have your land posted you'll probably lose.
Wrong! :bash:
Post by: gilroym on October 01, 2015, 05:53:20 AM
Maybe you need to post the land better! Seems like a lot of guys think it's public land. Can't just complain and not have it posted properly or gated off.
:chuckle: Who's responsibility is it? I'm not going to get into a long drawn out discussion but just to let you know, it's your responsibility to know where the property lines are! ;)
And FYI, it's posted very well, and how many apple orchards do you see on public land?
Actually a lot of orchards are on state land depending on where you live, the state leases the land to orchard farmers so you can hunt on it. This is not an excuse for the trespassers if your hunting you should know exactly what is private vs public and their is no excuse for not knowing.
Post by: Timberstalker on October 01, 2015, 05:56:09 AM
I suggest you read the trespassing while hunting RCW. Landowners are not required to post their land.
You're completely off in assuming this.
Post by: BLUEBULLS on October 01, 2015, 05:59:04 AM
Duckslayer,
I suggest you read the trespassing while hunting RCW. Landowners are not required to post their land.
You're completely off in assuming this.
:yeah:
Post by: bullfisher on October 01, 2015, 06:16:58 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 01, 2015, 06:25:52 AM
Duckslayer,
I suggest you read the trespassing while hunting RCW. Landowners are not required to post their land.
You're completely off in assuming this.
I'm not talking about the legality of this issue, it's the fact that if someone wants people to stop trespassing then the land should be well posted. But who knows maybe it is. Obviously there is a road open with no chain or gate across if there's a car on the property. However if I ever have any question about public or private I just don't hunt it. Part of the reason why I stick to wilderness units. Don't have to worry about it...
Post by: cbond3318 on October 01, 2015, 08:46:44 AM
Duckslayer,
I suggest you read the trespassing while hunting RCW. Landowners are not required to post their land.
You're completely off in assuming this.
I'm not talking about the legality of this issue, it's the fact that if someone wants people to stop trespassing then the land should be well posted. But who knows maybe it is. Obviously there is a road open with no chain or gate across if there's a car on the property. However if I ever have any question about public or private I just don't hunt it. Part of the reason why I stick to wilderness units. Don't have to worry about it...
Are you high dude? The orchard rows are not roads, lets say these morons in the car were to have some cosmic reason as to what led them to believe the road into the orchard was public land, driving through the orchard ripping someone's income off the tree with there roof rack would be an obvious sign you are doing something not right. I am dumbfounded at that photo.... :bash: :bash: :bash:
FYI, looks like the guy on the right in the first pic is the guy in the 3rd pic....MORONS!! and brought a youth along for the crime.... :bash: :bash: unreal!!!
Post by: westsidehntr on October 01, 2015, 08:56:39 AM
And, no way is the landowner at fault for anything here. Come on, man...
Post by: jackelope on October 01, 2015, 08:57:12 AM
Maybe you need to post the land better! Seems like a lot of guys think it's public land. Can't just complain and not have it posted properly or gated off.
:chuckle: Who's responsibility is it? I'm not going to get into a long drawn out discussion but just to let you know, it's your responsibility to know where the property lines are! ;)
And FYI, it's posted very well, and how many apple orchards do you see on public land?
It's your responsibility to post correctly. It's their responsibility to know where they are hunting. I use to hunt an old orchard near Winthrop. 100% public land. Obviously if someone can drive their car in its not gated/posted well enough. Just letting you know! Take someone to court and don't have your land posted you'll probably lose.
Not in Washington you won't. Read the laws. Know the laws better. It is your personal responsibility to know where you are at all times. It is your responsibility to know if you're on someone else's land in Washington.
Post by: Bango skank on October 01, 2015, 08:59:13 AM
I love the look on that guy's face in the first picture. It's like he just saw the camera and realizes that he was "caught." :chuckle:
Is that a beer the other guy is carrying?
I guarantee you he didnt pack that beer can out.
Post by: Bango skank on October 01, 2015, 09:03:50 AM
Post by: tgomez on October 01, 2015, 09:05:55 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 01, 2015, 09:05:58 AM
Maybe you need to post the land better! Seems like a lot of guys think it's public land. Can't just complain and not have it posted properly or gated off.That's a bunch of bull.
Post by: bobcat on October 01, 2015, 09:10:57 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 01, 2015, 09:11:26 AM
Post by: Curly on October 01, 2015, 09:13:25 AM
The photo is shocking. :yike: Those guys are morons. I hope they get fully prosecuted. Those are the type of people that give all hunters a bad name and cause most landowners to lock people out. :bash:
Post by: Rainier10 on October 01, 2015, 09:13:25 AM
This type of stuff is what screws it up for everyone else getting access.
I had a guy tell me the other day that "they wouldn't have been trespassing if you would have said yes when we asked."
REALLY?!
:stup:
Post by: quadrafire on October 01, 2015, 09:14:19 AM
I can not get over the dudes in the car, passenger side mirror folding in... Good lord, I think I may take this opportunity to coin a phrase " row hunter" similar to road hunters except now, not to be outwitted by the guys that use boots to get away from them.... un real.Maybe they are testing out a new apple picking technique ;)
"row hunter"......Love it
Post by: tgomez on October 01, 2015, 09:16:29 AM
I think the first guy was killed by the second guy. :dunno:
Lol, I could see that! :chuckle:
Post by: cbond3318 on October 01, 2015, 09:25:38 AM
Post by: Apples on October 01, 2015, 09:40:19 AM
Post by: kellama2001 on October 01, 2015, 09:46:57 AM
Post by: quadrafire on October 01, 2015, 09:47:38 AM
Wow these guys have balls, I would turn this over to law enforcement immediately so that they can pay the apple grower for the loss of crop he suffered by driving there car through the orchard! Morons.Funny screen name for this thread......LOL (Apples)
Post by: baker5150 on October 01, 2015, 10:00:11 AM
Someone will know them.
May not get them caught but it could be enough to get the point accross
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 01, 2015, 10:16:36 AM
Maybe you need to post the land better! Seems like a lot of guys think it's public land. Can't just complain and not have it posted properly or gated off.
:chuckle: Who's responsibility is it? I'm not going to get into a long drawn out discussion but just to let you know, it's your responsibility to know where the property lines are! ;)
And FYI, it's posted very well, and how many apple orchards do you see on public land?
That's exactly what I was thinking. :sry:
Post by: R2Rcoulee on October 01, 2015, 11:08:00 AM
Post by: Shank on October 01, 2015, 11:27:15 AM
Seriously though... WTF! really! how oblivious/disrespectful can one be? Come on really.
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Post by: PolarBear on October 01, 2015, 11:35:42 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 01, 2015, 12:46:42 PM
They are all probably scouting for a locally based hunting show. :chuckle:The working title is The Real Tools of Chelan County :chuckle:
Post by: Gringo31 on October 01, 2015, 12:59:05 PM
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Post by: tgomez on October 01, 2015, 01:39:07 PM
Post by: runamuk on October 01, 2015, 02:12:13 PM
Phool is short for the OP's handle. He was directing his empathy to the OP not calling the people fools.Sorry you have to deal with this Phool
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Post by: Buckmark on October 01, 2015, 02:14:19 PM
Like if his name was JimPhool is short for the OP's handle. He was directing his empathy to the OP not calling the people fools.Sorry you have to deal with this Phool
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You realize it's FOOL not PHOOL? You must be embarrassed
Sorry you have to deal with this, Jim....
Some peoples kids :chuckle:
Post by: baker5150 on October 01, 2015, 02:19:16 PM
Like if his name was JimPhool is short for the OP's handle. He was directing his empathy to the OP not calling the people fools.Sorry you have to deal with this Phool
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You realize it's FOOL not PHOOL? You must be embarrassed
Sorry you have to deal with this Jim....
Some peoples kids :chuckle:
:chuckle:
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 01, 2015, 02:30:44 PM
Like if his name was JimPhool is short for the OP's handle. He was directing his empathy to the OP not calling the people fools.Sorry you have to deal with this Phool
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You realize it's FOOL not PHOOL? You must be embarrassed
Sorry you have to deal with this Jim....
Some peoples kids :chuckle:
Lol... I should delete that post before too many others see...
Post by: tgomez on October 01, 2015, 02:58:15 PM
LEO tracking a ninja
Lol :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on October 01, 2015, 03:11:20 PM
Not really wanting to be that guy, but if you say it out loud, I see where he was coming from with his comment.Phool is short for the OP's handle. He was directing his empathy to the OP not calling the people fools.Sorry you have to deal with this Phool
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You realize it's FOOL not PHOOL? You must be embarrassed
Sorry you have to deal with this Phool.
Sorry you have to deal with this, Phool.
:dunno:
Post by: jackelope on October 01, 2015, 03:13:31 PM
Like if his name was JimPhool is short for the OP's handle. He was directing his empathy to the OP not calling the people fools.Sorry you have to deal with this Phool
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You realize it's FOOL not PHOOL? You must be embarrassed
Sorry you have to deal with this Jim....
Some peoples kids :chuckle:
What's a Jim?
Sorry you have to deal with this, Jim....
Post by: runamuk on October 01, 2015, 03:19:05 PM
Oh you are being that guy. :chuckle: bloody grammar nazisNot really wanting to be that guy, but if you say it out loud, I see where he was coming from with his comment.Phool is short for the OP's handle. He was directing his empathy to the OP not calling the people fools.Sorry you have to deal with this Phool
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You realize it's FOOL not PHOOL? You must be embarrassed
Sorry you have to deal with this Phool.
Sorry you have to deal with this, Phool.
:dunno:
Post by: Curly on October 01, 2015, 03:21:03 PM
Post by: Buckmark on October 01, 2015, 03:23:51 PM
Post by: JJB11B on October 01, 2015, 03:34:48 PM
Was he the host of a TV show? Trophy something or other?I've seen guy #1 before, can't place him though.
Thats the first thing that came to my mind also.
Post by: h20hunter on October 01, 2015, 03:35:56 PM
Post by: gilroym on October 02, 2015, 06:20:34 AM
I could possibly see people that didn't do their research maybe thinking non posted and non fenced unimproved land was public. An active orchard no way, those guys are blatantly trespassing and they know it. I know he said he has it posted, but he should have no reason to "have it posted properly or gated off", It's an active fricking orchard!
Yeah it is very bold to hunt an active orchard the pickers tuck away in between the rows it would be hard to know you have a safe shooting lane. I have access to some orchards and the manager tells me where the pickers are and I hunt around the areas they are not in.
Post by: huntnphool on October 04, 2015, 10:04:35 PM
Problem with vehicles is the owner in this state is not responsible for the vehicle, so you have to prove who is driving.
Post by: scoyoc5 on October 04, 2015, 10:15:01 PM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on October 05, 2015, 08:43:01 AM
Post by: renewed on October 05, 2015, 08:58:57 AM
Post by: Becky on October 05, 2015, 03:02:53 PM
Pretty sure we have the last group of guys identified, not the car yet though, which should be the easy one since you can see the plate clear as day. :chuckle:
Problem with vehicles is the owner in this state is not responsible for the vehicle, so you have to prove who is driving.
That's interesting because when you get a traffic light ticket in the mail they say the opposite. The judge literally told everyone who used that excuse that unless the vehicle was stolen (and on record) then it is the owner's responsibility and the proof lays on the owner to declare who was driving. I guess because a traffic offense is different than criminal but still you'd think they would have some similarities when it comes to ownership.. too bad.
Post by: Bob33 on October 05, 2015, 03:19:56 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on October 05, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
Pretty sure we have the last group of guys identified, not the car yet though, which should be the easy one since you can see the plate clear as day. :chuckle:
:tup:
Post by: skeeter 20i on October 05, 2015, 04:00:26 PM
Pretty sure we have the last group of guys identified, not the car yet though, which should be the easy one since you can see the plate clear as day. :chuckle:
Problem with vehicles is the owner in this state is not responsible for the vehicle, so you have to prove who is driving.
That's interesting because when you get a traffic light ticket in the mail they say the opposite. The judge literally told everyone who used that excuse that unless the vehicle was stolen (and on record) then it is the owner's responsibility and the proof lays on the owner to declare who was driving. I guess because a traffic offense is different than criminal but still you'd think they would have some similarities when it comes to ownership.. too bad.
Ummm no. That may have happened to you and I'm sorry it did but the burden is on the issuing authority to establish who was driving not on the owner to prove they weren't, it's a innocent until proven guilty thing and all they have is a picture of your car (provided a face can't be identified via closer examination of the photograph).
You are not legally obligated to disclose who was driving, they ask you to on the back of the affidavit but you don't have to disclose anything if you choose not to. You are not required to establish someone else's guilt in order to establish your own innocence.
Post by: Becky on October 05, 2015, 04:19:25 PM
Post by: Bob33 on October 05, 2015, 04:35:28 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on October 05, 2015, 04:39:43 PM
Once ticketed, you are guilty until you go to court and prove your innocence.
The American way! :rolleyes:
Post by: Becky on October 05, 2015, 04:42:54 PM
:chuckle:Once ticketed, you are guilty until you go to court and prove your innocence.
The American way! :rolleyes:
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 05, 2015, 05:06:37 PM
Pretty sure we have the last group of guys identified, not the car yet though, which should be the easy one since you can see the plate clear as day. :chuckle:
Problem with vehicles is the owner in this state is not responsible for the vehicle, so you have to prove who is driving.
That's interesting because when you get a traffic light ticket in the mail they say the opposite. The judge literally told everyone who used that excuse that unless the vehicle was stolen (and on record) then it is the owner's responsibility and the proof lays on the owner to declare who was driving. I guess because a traffic offense is different than criminal but still you'd think they would have some similarities when it comes to ownership.. too bad.
Ummm no. That may have happened to you and I'm sorry it did but the burden is on the issuing authority to establish who was driving not on the owner to prove they weren't, it's a innocent until proven guilty thing and all they have is a picture of your car (provided a face can't be identified via closer examination of the photograph).
You are not legally obligated to disclose who was driving, they ask you to on the back of the affidavit but you don't have to disclose anything if you choose not to. You are not required to establish someone else's guilt in order to establish your own innocence.
There is an RCW that shows you are wrong WRT camera tickets. You must rebut the presumption to avoid the road tax. It's a sham.
http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/does-the-law-require-the-registered-owner-to-name--497750.html
Post by: skeeter 20i on October 05, 2015, 07:20:27 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 05, 2015, 08:04:15 PM
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(2) This presumption may be overcome only if the registered owner states, under oath, in a written statement to the court or in testimony before the court that the vehicle involved was, at the time, stolen or in the care, custody, or control of some person other than the registered owner.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.63.075
Post by: floatinghat on October 06, 2015, 11:55:25 AM
I had a guy tell me the other day that "they wouldn't have been trespassing if you would have said yes when we asked."
REALLY?!
:stup:
That's funny
Post by: DBLDWN on October 06, 2015, 12:58:25 PM
Post by: Landowner on October 07, 2015, 02:18:10 PM
Not sure what has been done to stop that activity in the photos----looks like North Central WA or Yakima country? Fence the entries, put up some no trespassing signs, patrol it, do something other than just put a camera up. Word has to be out that the ground in the photos is easy pickings.
Hopefully you identify the clowns in the pics and get the prosecutor to take action. Call WDFW enforcement or the sheriff. They will run the license and contact the owner of the rig. Even if it can't be shown absent an admission who was driving it, they likely won't be back after a call from law enforcement. We've busted guys with nothing more than a license plate number.
Post by: cbond3318 on October 07, 2015, 02:24:12 PM
I had a guy tell me the other day that "they wouldn't have been trespassing if you would have said yes when we asked."
REALLY?!
:stup:
That's funny
seems reasonable.
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 07, 2015, 02:44:36 PM
I had a guy tell me the other day that "they wouldn't have been trespassing if you would have said yes when we asked."
REALLY?!
:stup:
That's funny
The weird thing is that they're right :chuckle: not ethically, morally, or legally but they're technically right :chuckle:
Post by: Rainier10 on October 07, 2015, 02:49:27 PM
Exactly. At that point I didn't know what to say, end of conversation. Nothing you can say to people with mentality.
I had a guy tell me the other day that "they wouldn't have been trespassing if you would have said yes when we asked."
REALLY?!
:stup:
That's funny
The weird thing is that they're right :chuckle: not ethically, morally, or legally but they're technically right :chuckle:
Post by: WAcoueshunter on October 07, 2015, 03:28:27 PM
Here's the relevant law.
RCW 77.15.435
Unlawful hunting on or retrieving hunted wildlife from the property of another—Defense—Penalty—Forfeiture and disposition of wildlife.
*** CHANGE IN 2015 *** (SEE 1627.SL) ***
(1) A person is guilty of unlawfully hunting on, or retrieving hunted wildlife from, the property of another if the person knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in or on the premises of another for the purpose of hunting for wildlife or retrieving hunted wildlife.
(2) In any prosecution under this section, it is a defense that:
(a) The premises were at the time open to members of the public for the purpose of hunting, and the actor complied with all lawful conditions imposed on access to or remaining on the premises;
(b) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain on the premises for the purpose of hunting or retrieving hunted wildlife;
(c) The actor reasonably believed that the premises were not privately owned; or
(d) The actor, after making all reasonable attempts to contact the owner of the premises, retrieved the hunted wildlife for the sole purpose of avoiding a violation of the prohibition on the waste of fish and wildlife as provided in RCW 77.15.170. The defense in this subsection only applies to the retrieval of hunted wildlife and not to the actual act of hunting itself.
(3) Unlawfully hunting on or retrieving hunted wildlife from the property of another is a misdemeanor.
(4) If a person unlawfully hunts and kills wildlife, or retrieves hunted wildlife that he or she has killed, on the property of another, then, upon conviction of unlawfully hunting on, or retrieving hunted wildlife from, the property of another, the department shall revoke all hunting licenses and tags and order a suspension of the person's hunting privileges for two years.
(5) Any wildlife that is unlawfully hunted on or retrieved from the property of another must be seized by fish and wildlife officers. Forfeiture and disposition of the wildlife is pursuant to RCW 77.15.100. [2012 c 176 § 11.
[2012 c 176 § 11.]
Post by: grade-creek-rd on October 07, 2015, 03:40:50 PM
If it is, and the WDFW is willing to provide the signs, I would be happy to put them up next time I'm over there.
Grade
Post by: 724wd on October 07, 2015, 09:11:49 PM
The guy with the arrow nocked is priceless. Who does that?
bowhunters? :dunno:
Post by: UBA on October 07, 2015, 09:20:17 PM
Post by: Colville on October 08, 2015, 12:09:07 PM
Two separate issues re cars. If the car collides with something and does damage, the owner of the car will have their insurance is in play immediately. Loan someone your car, loan them your insurance. This is a civil matter.
Criminal acts of the driver on the other hand, speeding, trespass etc those are only chargeable to the driver regardless of the ownership. The issue here is crime, not damages to property. If I use my buddies car and drive drunk, he is charged with nothing. If I do that and kill a guy in an accident, his insurance is in play and he may be sued and lose.
Post by: huntnphool on October 08, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
smossy...My wife's car got hit from behind at a light a few years ago, the driver took off. We went to the police, reported what happened and filed a report. We tracked the car down the next day at the guys house, took pics, got the address and went to the police. They told us there was nothing they could do because we could not prove the owner of the vehicle was the one driving and hitting my car. They explained that the driver of the vehicle was responsible for the car, not the owner. :twocents:
Two separate issues re cars. If the car collides with something and does damage, the owner of the car will have their insurance is in play immediately. Loan someone your car, loan them your insurance. This is a civil matter.
Criminal acts of the driver on the other hand, speeding, trespass etc those are only chargeable to the driver regardless of the ownership. The issue here is crime, not damages to property. If I use my buddies car and drive drunk, he is charged with nothing. If I do that and kill a guy in an accident, his insurance is in play and he may be sued and lose.
Post by: huntnphool on October 08, 2015, 03:41:23 PM
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
Post by: h20hunter on October 08, 2015, 03:44:03 PM
Post by: TRD1911 on October 09, 2015, 07:56:51 AM
Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
Good on ya'. Im hoping to buy a plot of land in the next 5 or so years for hunting and even the thought of someone trespassing on my "future property" ticks me off.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 09, 2015, 08:28:21 AM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 10, 2015, 12:07:33 PM
Good on ya'. Im hoping to buy a plot of land in the next 5 or so years for hunting and even the thought of someone trespassing on my "future property" ticks me off.
And that's why private land ownership is the biggest land lock up that there is. Also why public land is so important.
Post by: Greg Mullins on October 10, 2015, 10:14:41 PM
Post by: mountainman on October 11, 2015, 12:14:45 PM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on October 11, 2015, 12:29:35 PM
Post by: DBLDWN on October 13, 2015, 02:54:50 PM
Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.Im kinda confused why you are posting this and making threats about sharing names when the property doesn't belong to you. I know the property owners and they are more then able to do their own investigative work. just confused why its any of your business?
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
Post by: bobcat on October 13, 2015, 03:46:03 PM
Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.Im kinda confused why you are posting this and making threats about sharing names when the property doesn't belong to you. I know the property owners and they are more then able to do their own investigative work. just confused why its any of your business?
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
I'm assuming huntnphool is a friend of the landowner. Why else would he have the trail cam pictures?
Post by: UBA on October 13, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.Im kinda confused why you are posting this and making threats about sharing names when the property doesn't belong to you. I know the property owners and they are more then able to do their own investigative work. just confused why its any of your business?
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
You most know them very well or they would of asked you if you knew who they where. :dunno:
Post by: Dan-o on October 13, 2015, 03:50:53 PM
Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.Im kinda confused why you are posting this and making threats about sharing names when the property doesn't belong to you. I know the property owners and they are more then able to do their own investigative work. just confused why its any of your business?
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
And................................................. Here we go!!!
I'll lay money that the OP has a very legitimate set of circumstances on his side.
Anybody?
Buehler?
Buehler?
Post by: mountainman on October 13, 2015, 04:23:06 PM
Post by: Southpole on October 13, 2015, 04:30:03 PM
Post by: runamuk on October 13, 2015, 04:37:09 PM
Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.Im kinda confused why you are posting this and making threats about sharing names when the property doesn't belong to you. I know the property owners and they are more then able to do their own investigative work. just confused why its any of your business?
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
People often hunt private land with permission or through leasing or through marriage and family, but anyway it happens, its common for the party given permission to help with issues like trespassing. It doesnt seem like rocket science to figure out really.
Post by: emac on October 13, 2015, 04:45:39 PM
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Post by: emac on October 13, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
I run trail cams on some private property that is not mine. I have permission to hunt there. The landowner's have asked me to keep an eye on the land for them since they do not live in this area. I have permission to kick people off that are trespassing. The landowner told me to get names, licenses Numbers and pictures if possible and he will deal with the law end of it.???Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.Im kinda confused why you are posting this and making threats about sharing names when the property doesn't belong to you. I know the property owners and they are more then able to do their own investigative work. just confused why its any of your business?
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
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Post by: mountainman on October 13, 2015, 07:26:52 PM
Post by: M_ray on October 13, 2015, 08:35:21 PM
Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.Im kinda confused why you are posting this and making threats about sharing names when the property doesn't belong to you. I know the property owners and they are more then able to do their own investigative work. just confused why its any of your business?
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
Looks to me like Phool knows them better than you do ;) Why are you worried about it ... is that you in the pic? :chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on October 13, 2015, 09:39:26 PM
Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.Im kinda confused why you are posting this and making threats about sharing names when the property doesn't belong to you. I know the property owners and they are more then able to do their own investigative work. just confused why its any of your business?
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
People often hunt private land with permission or through leasing or through marriage and family, but anyway it happens, its common for the party given permission to help with issues like trespassing. It doesnt seem like rocket science to figure out really.
I run trail cams on some private property that is not mine. I have permission to hunt there. The landowner's have asked me to keep an eye on the land for them since they do not live in this area. I have permission to kick people off that are trespassing. The landowner told me to get names, licenses Numbers and pictures if possible and he will deal with the law end of it.???Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.Im kinda confused why you are posting this and making threats about sharing names when the property doesn't belong to you. I know the property owners and they are more then able to do their own investigative work. just confused why its any of your business?
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
These two replies pretty much sum it, not that my relationship with the landowner is "any of your business" Derry! ;)
Post by: Romulus1297 on October 13, 2015, 10:15:56 PM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on October 14, 2015, 06:28:15 AM
Post by: R2Rcoulee on October 14, 2015, 07:36:26 AM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on October 14, 2015, 03:49:51 PM
Post by: bracer40 on October 14, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
Not talking retaliation.....Intentionally setting a trap that could potentially harm an individual is setting yourself up for a lawsuit, happens all the time, private property or not.
About 20 years ago we had an officer at our homeowners assoc. block watch meeting. We had had a number of neighbors whose lawns had been damaged by cars intentionally driven over them. As we lived on a corner and were more susceptible to the damage the idiots were doing, I had the great idea of driving rebar along the edge of our lawn. We were warned by the officer that that could backfire on us if the driver (driving ACROSS our lawn) chose to sue for damages. Told us even large rocks along the edge of the lawn could bite us later!
I was shocked to learn that! Still makes me grit my teeth :mor: :mor: :mor: :mor: :mor: :stup: :stup:
Post by: Thehowler on October 14, 2015, 05:44:21 PM
Don't ever talk to cops about your ideas.
Post by: R2Rcoulee on October 14, 2015, 05:53:28 PM
Not talking retaliation.....Intentionally setting a trap that could potentially harm an individual is setting yourself up for a lawsuit, happens all the time, private property or not.
Happens all the time, huh I've never heard of it happening. Maybe in town. But I built a house about 7 years ago in the country. I had some wire stolen, so I put a nail strip up in my in my driveway. Never had anything else stolen, but I don't think anyone else attempted to steal anything. Doubt the meth heads are going to file a lawsuit. But maybe the trespassing hunter would. I'd still install a nails trip myself.
Post by: HntnFsh on October 15, 2015, 06:05:22 AM
And you think someone thats going to vandalize your property, just for fun, has the lawyers and money to Sue you?
Don't ever talk to cops about your ideas.
Probably wont cost them much at all. Attorney will do it for a percentage!
Post by: Shank on October 15, 2015, 07:45:13 AM
Thanks to everyone that has helped out, I'm being told that each of these guys are being contacted by WDFW.
I've also been told that some have been contacted by WDFW before.......shocker!
A couple are fireman/medics. :bash:
With modern deer coming up, more cameras are going up as well, hoping that the season ends with only critter pics.
If you are one of those in the pics and reading this, your name will be shared with everyone if you are caught again, please find access to the area elsewhere.
Ugh!
One of the areas I hunt has a camp with some firefighters, while yes this is the minority. It seems some think because of their profession they get special privilege.
Example. Folks from this camp ride there quads behind very well posted NO UNAUTHORIZED MOTORIZED VEHICLES...WDFW. When asked about it they respond we're firefighters we've been hunting this area for years. Besides we cut out some of the dead fall to make it easier for you.
Hmmm well I've been hunting this area for upwards of 30 years and I work for a county..so I get special privilege right!?
Sorry rant and thread jack over...just tired of people thinking they get special rights/above the law just because
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Post by: mountainman on October 15, 2015, 09:49:19 AM
Post by: M_ray on October 15, 2015, 11:43:05 AM
Maybe the guys in the picture have permission to be there also??
Ahh, NO! Why would the landowner and friend of the OP ask for his help in locating these clowns if they had permission? Did you read any of the post? :dunno:
Post by: Gringo31 on October 15, 2015, 01:12:02 PM
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Maybe the guys in the picture have permission to be there also??
I'll bite....
If that was my orchard and I had given you permission to be there also.....
And
I found out you were thanking me by my generosity of letting you access my property by reaching into my wallet and removing the crops that I sell........
We'd have a whole different problem
Post by: mountainman on October 15, 2015, 02:19:47 PM
Yes, am following the post. And know those involved. Hearing 2 different things in relation of having permission or not. Just curious as the truth may lie somewhere in the middle maybe?Maybe the guys in the picture have permission to be there also??
Ahh, NO! Why would the landowner and friend of the OP ask for his help in locating these clowns if they had permission? Did you read any of the post? :dunno:
Post by: M_ray on October 15, 2015, 02:55:18 PM
Yes, am following the post. And know those involved. Hearing 2 different things in relation of having permission or not. Just curious as the truth may lie somewhere in the middle maybe?Maybe the guys in the picture have permission to be there also??
Ahh, NO! Why would the landowner and friend of the OP ask for his help in locating these clowns if they had permission? Did you read any of the post? :dunno:
And perhaps your buddies are just saying that? Think about it??? When was the last time a trespasser just said "yeah I was trespassing" you believe that if you want to but I believe if the landowner had granted permission to someone then he wouldn't be soliciting help from friends to locate them ... Your logic doesn't add up and your friends know they've been caught red handed so of coarse they are going to lie.
Post by: huntnphool on October 15, 2015, 02:56:56 PM
Yes, am following the post. And know those involved. Hearing 2 different things in relation of having permission or not. Just curious as the truth may lie somewhere in the middle maybe?Maybe the guys in the picture have permission to be there also??
Ahh, NO! Why would the landowner and friend of the OP ask for his help in locating these clowns if they had permission? Did you read any of the post? :dunno:
There is no "middle" mountainman, nobody in any of those pics have been given permission to be in there, which is why each have been turned in to the authorities. ;)
Post by: mountainman on October 15, 2015, 03:56:17 PM
Post by: Chad Osterholtz on October 15, 2015, 07:32:56 PM
Is that second guy headed to go fishing or to a fencing match... :o
im pretty sure thats a ninja knife!!!!!!
I wonder if it has Randy Jackson's autograph on it?
Post by: Widgeondeke on October 15, 2015, 07:48:37 PM
Cool, as it should be Phool. Just hearing different from several in the photos. Not wanting to cause a riff, and don't like Tresspassers either!Wait! Are you saying you know some of the people in the pics?
If so, why not say so in the beginning of the thread?
Maybe you did. :dunno: Just asking the question.
Post by: huntnphool on October 16, 2015, 12:02:55 AM
Cool, as it should be Phool. Just hearing different from several in the photos. Not wanting to cause a riff, and don't like Tresspassers either!
;)
Post by: M_ray on October 16, 2015, 09:30:17 AM
Cool, as it should be Phool. Just hearing different from several in the photos. Not wanting to cause a riff, and don't like Tresspassers either!
Which is exactly why I said of coarse they would deny it! ;)
Post by: seth30 on October 16, 2015, 10:29:21 AM
Post by: huntnphool on October 16, 2015, 06:50:16 PM
This thread took a major turn.
Unfortunately starting tomorrow there will likely be a whole new album of pics to get it back on track.
Post by: jackelope on October 16, 2015, 09:52:38 PM
Cool, as it should be Phool. Just hearing different from several in the photos. Not wanting to cause a riff, and don't like Tresspassers either!
You've got weird ways of not wanting to start a riff.
Post by: Highmountaindan on October 18, 2015, 01:03:34 AM
Post by: mountainman on October 18, 2015, 09:33:13 AM
not biting..Cool, as it should be Phool. Just hearing different from several in the photos. Not wanting to cause a riff, and don't like Tresspassers either!
You've got weird ways of not wanting to start a riff.
Post by: huntnphool on February 05, 2016, 09:18:51 PM
Post by: huntingfool7 on February 05, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Cool, as it should be Phool. Just hearing different from several in the photos. Not wanting to cause a riff, and don't like Tresspassers either!How many of these trespassers do you know?
Post by: ICEMAN on February 06, 2016, 09:16:37 AM
Phool, since the majority of this occurred in 2015, are you aware of any prosecutions? Or just warnings....
Thanks.
Post by: vandeman17 on February 06, 2016, 10:00:15 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 06, 2016, 10:16:20 AM
Master hunters?
Doesn't give them the right to trespass if they are, but I doubt they are either way.
Post by: Bob33 on February 06, 2016, 10:19:30 AM
Master hunters?There is no reason to suspect that. They appear to be bird hunters and there are no special seasons for master hunters.
Post by: vandeman17 on February 06, 2016, 10:33:12 AM
Master hunters?
Doesn't give them the right to trespass if they are, but I doubt they are either way.
Never said it did. Now that I look on my laptop and not my phone I see they are shotguns and not muzzys. That is why I brought up the idea. Looks like trespassing bird hunters to me
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2016, 12:15:16 PM
The car is probably not an honest mistake.....but you have plenty of evidence with that pic. :chuckle:
Post by: huntingfool7 on February 06, 2016, 12:23:05 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F313ghnr.png&hash=0be205f329e7b1f1af74fc266ef22fb2890b2602)
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on February 06, 2016, 12:24:26 PM
Post by: Bob33 on February 06, 2016, 12:50:13 PM
Hiking while drinking Ice beer. Breakfast of champions and back alley drunks.Canned beer, no less.
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2016, 12:56:13 PM
Fair question in my book.... I personally would not walk a property line that was not clearly defined. With that said, I know a lot of guys who try....and they are not bad guys, just not using good judgement IMO.
Post by: jackelope on February 06, 2016, 01:46:43 PM
The reason I posted the question above......If all these guys were getting caught "obviously tresspassing" why wouldnt' they rip the camera down to get rid of the evidence? It maybe lends credibility to the fact that they are good guys walking a property line thinking they are OK / not trespassing. My experience with trespassers on a friends property....is they try and destroy the camera after being caught. They don't want evidence that they are breaking the law. :dunno: :dunno:
Fair question in my book.... I personally would not walk a property line that was not clearly defined. With that said, I know a lot of guys who try....and they are not bad guys, just not using good judgement IMO.
What part of them literally driving their car through an orchard with apples falling off of their car makes whether they are on public or private land questionable? I've never seen an orchard full of groomed apple trees on public land.
Post by: jackelope on February 06, 2016, 01:47:58 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 06, 2016, 01:48:55 PM
Hiking while drinking Ice beer. Breakfast of champions and back alley drunks.Canned beer, no less.
Hey there's nothing wrong with canned beer.
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2016, 01:50:36 PM
The reason I posted the question above......If all these guys were getting caught "obviously tresspassing" why wouldnt' they rip the camera down to get rid of the evidence? It maybe lends credibility to the fact that they are good guys walking a property line thinking they are OK / not trespassing. My experience with trespassers on a friends property....is they try and destroy the camera after being caught. They don't want evidence that they are breaking the law. :dunno: :dunno:
Fair question in my book.... I personally would not walk a property line that was not clearly defined. With that said, I know a lot of guys who try....and they are not bad guys, just not using good judgement IMO.
What part of them literally driving their car through an orchard with apples falling off of their car makes whether they are on public or private land questionable? I've never seen an orchard full of groomed apple trees on public land.
Read my previous post that addresses the car. :tup:
Post by: bobcat on February 06, 2016, 01:56:27 PM
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2016, 02:00:35 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on February 06, 2016, 02:04:24 PM
Just find it interesting that this piece of property has so many tresspassers every year. Wondering why that is....and came up with a few plausible situations. :dunno:
I wondered the same thing. There must be a nearby parking area or trail or something that makes these people feel that it is ok.
Post by: bobcat on February 06, 2016, 02:07:18 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 04:13:50 PM
Just find it interesting that this piece of property has so many tresspassers every year. Wondering why that is....and came up with a few plausible situations. :dunno:
It's popular with hunters because it's Entiat and regularly full of bucks, and I will say it again, ITS POSTED ALL OVER THE PLACE, including where these guys are. There is no way to get to this spot without seeing the signs, and the cameras all well mounted.
A WDFW employee was caught in there yesterday, trespassing looking for sheds, in the middle of the day and obviously didn't give two *censored*s. He was confronted and told it was his one and only warning and to stay out or his superiors will be contacted next time. We have his name and know exactly where he works, so if you are reading this, next time everyone on here will know who you are too.
And for those looking for excuses, yes he admitted he saw the signs and knew it was private, yet came up with a lame ass excuse that he "was just going to cut through".
If you do not have permission then stay out, if you do not know if it's private or not, stay out until you do the research, it's not rocket science guys.
Post by: Birdguy on February 06, 2016, 05:42:18 PM
Post by: 724wd on February 06, 2016, 07:11:50 PM
Hiking while drinking Ice beer. Breakfast of champions and back alley drunks.Canned beer, no less.
how GAUCHE!!! :yike:
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 09:44:08 PM
Hiking while drinking Ice beer. Breakfast of champions and back alley drunks.Canned beer, no less.
how GAUCHE!!! :yike:
Lmao, as I crack a can of Bud Light. :chuckle:
Post by: Utah on February 06, 2016, 10:57:29 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 11:07:38 PM
Why would you give a WDFW employee a second chance?
Is he any less worthy of a second chance as the rest of them, simply because he works for WDFW? :dunno:
Post by: Utah on February 06, 2016, 11:10:56 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 11:16:17 PM
Actually he should be held t a higher standard. He's employed by us. Not to mention the hypocrisy of it all.
He is not the only government employee in this thread that has been caught, contacted, and been given a second chance. Everyone deserves one, let's just hope they realize how much they potentially have to lose if they do it again. ;)
Post by: buglebrush on February 06, 2016, 11:21:16 PM
Actually he should be held t a higher standard. He's employed by us. Not to mention the hypocrisy of it all.
He is not the only government employee in this thread that has been caught, contacted, and been given a second chance. Everyone deserves one, let's just hope they realize how much they potentially have to lose if they do it again. ;)
WDFW almost never gives Sportsmen a second chance. I would return the favor :)
Post by: Utah on February 06, 2016, 11:23:37 PM
Actually he should be held t a higher standard. He's employed by us. Not to mention the hypocrisy of it all.
He is not the only government employee in this thread that has been caught, contacted, and been given a second chance. Everyone deserves one, let's just hope they realize how much they potentially have to lose if they do it again. ;)
I call BS. You'll do nothing...
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2016, 11:23:57 PM
Just find it interesting that this piece of property has so many tresspassers every year. Wondering why that is....and came up with a few plausible situations. :dunno:
It's popular with hunters because it's Entiat and regularly full of bucks, and I will say it again, ITS POSTED ALL OVER THE PLACE, including where these guys are. There is no way to get to this spot without seeing the signs, and the cameras all well mounted.
A WDFW employee was caught in there yesterday, trespassing looking for sheds, in the middle of the day and obviously didn't give two *censored*s. He was confronted and told it was his one and only warning and to stay out or his superiors will be contacted next time. We have his name and know exactly where he works, so if you are reading this, next time everyone on here will know who you are too.
And for those looking for excuses, yes he admitted he saw the signs and knew it was private, yet came up with a lame ass excuse that he "was just going to cut through".
If you do not have permission then stay out, if you do not know if it's private or not, stay out until you do the research, it's not rocket science guys.
No need to get your panties in a bunch.....just ask a simple question. It just seams like you have a bigger problem with trespassers than most. It appears that may be due to the area alone and the pure number of deer in that area. I don't know....and my curiosity makes me question certain thing. Just seemed weird....that there is not a simple explanation.....not justification but explanation. :dunno:
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 06, 2016, 11:24:17 PM
Actually he should be held t a higher standard. He's employed by us. Not to mention the hypocrisy of it all.
He is not the only government employee in this thread that has been caught, contacted, and been given a second chance. Everyone deserves one, let's just hope they realize how much they potentially have to lose if they do it again. ;)
WDFW almost never gives Sportsmen a second chance. I would return the favor :)
Thats a fact!!
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 11:24:17 PM
Actually he should be held t a higher standard. He's employed by us. Not to mention the hypocrisy of it all.
He is not the only government employee in this thread that has been caught, contacted, and been given a second chance. Everyone deserves one, let's just hope they realize how much they potentially have to lose if they do it again. ;)
WDFW almost never gives Sportsmen a second chance. I would return the favor :)
No? Well let's see how this turns out! http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,188769.msg2493154.html#msg2493154
Post by: Utah on February 06, 2016, 11:30:01 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 11:30:11 PM
Just find it interesting that this piece of property has so many tresspassers every year. Wondering why that is....and came up with a few plausible situations. :dunno:
It's popular with hunters because it's Entiat and regularly full of bucks, and I will say it again, ITS POSTED ALL OVER THE PLACE, including where these guys are. There is no way to get to this spot without seeing the signs, and the cameras all well mounted.
A WDFW employee was caught in there yesterday, trespassing looking for sheds, in the middle of the day and obviously didn't give two *censored*s. He was confronted and told it was his one and only warning and to stay out or his superiors will be contacted next time. We have his name and know exactly where he works, so if you are reading this, next time everyone on here will know who you are too.
And for those looking for excuses, yes he admitted he saw the signs and knew it was private, yet came up with a lame ass excuse that he "was just going to cut through".
If you do not have permission then stay out, if you do not know if it's private or not, stay out until you do the research, it's not rocket science guys.
No need to get your panties in a bunch.....just ask a simple question. It just seams like you have a bigger problem with trespassers than most. It appears that may be due to the area alone and the pure number of deer in that area. I don't know....and my curiosity makes me question certain thing. Just seemed weird....that there is not a simple explanation.....not justification but explanation. :dunno:
No panties bunched up Jreb, but it's been clear for a while (post #62) that the area is well marked and in a big deer area. ;)
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 11:31:12 PM
Why start a thread complaining and then do nothing?
Do nothing? :chuckle:
Post by: Utah on February 06, 2016, 11:40:10 PM
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2016, 11:40:53 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 11:42:57 PM
A WDFW employee abusing his privledge? Screw him... He'd have no problem screwing you or me. You gonna get a free get out of jail card from him?
No Utah, but we only want people to stay out, I am hopeful that they have learned, no sense ruining someone's career unless they continue to ignore the law. :twocents:
Post by: Utah on February 06, 2016, 11:45:37 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 11:47:48 PM
I know a lot of private in land with tons of deer that don't get this much attention from trespassers. Maybe it is the apple orchard?? Maybe you have a rare specimen of apple that attracts trespassers... Maybe it is the pot farm up valley making people crazy?? Or maybe????? Something else??? My guess is some desirable public land that borders the orchard and people are trying to take the easy route vs hiking in the long way. People are inherently lazy. Again not justifying but more explaining why again you have a bigger problem than most. If you don't identify the problem it makes it hard to fix the problem. By the looks of this post it appears your problem doesn't get any better as time goes on. This thread may rival the bigfoot thread as the years pass. Lol!! Anywhooooo.....I'm out. For the record.....I hate trespassers!!
I hear that, and since the people identified have been contacted, they have not been caught in there or on camera again, which is all we are trying to accomplish. :tup:
Apparently hunting deer and sheds just creates a chemical imbalance in the brain because trspassing is rampant in Entiat. :chuckle:
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2016, 11:51:58 PM
Remember that the first time you get screwed. Damn nice of ya...
Utah.....wow!!! Have you been on the receiving end of WDFW before. I have had pretty positive interactions with them and applaud huntnphool for allowing second chances. Sometimes people make mistakes and just need to be humbled to get back on the right track in life.
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2016, 11:54:13 PM
Remember that the first time you get screwed. Damn nice of ya...
Utah.....wow!!! Have you been on the receiving end of WDFW before. I have had pretty positive interactions with them and applaud huntnphool for allowing second chances. Sometimes people make mistakes and just need to be humbled to get back on the right track in life.
Nothing but positive things to say about the officers I have talked to in the field, in this state or any state for that matter. :tup:
Post by: Utah on February 06, 2016, 11:54:27 PM
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Post by: jackelope on February 06, 2016, 11:57:17 PM
Actually no I have not. And I've no further comment as Jackelope has sent me a message telling me that I'm out of line and about to get banned...Yup. Seemed pretty straight forward to me. I sent you a warning telling you calling people names was not allowed here.
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Post by: jackelope on February 07, 2016, 12:01:38 AM
J to U
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That's it. And I just realized you're a Raiders fan too.
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Post by: jackelope on February 07, 2016, 12:03:16 AM
Thanks for the second chance.....
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No worries. Keep it between the lines, man.
Post by: huntnphool on February 07, 2016, 12:04:11 AM
J to U
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And I just realized you're a Raiders fan too.
Hey, so am I! >:(
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Post by: huntnphool on February 07, 2016, 12:11:12 AM
Should I say who you work for if I catch you walking through my property to access public land?Just find it interesting that this piece of property has so many tresspassers every year. Wondering why that is....and came up with a few plausible situations. :dunno:A WDFW employee was caught in there yesterday, trespassing looking for sheds, in the middle of the day and obviously didn't give two *censored*s. He was confronted and told it was his one and only warning and to stay out or his superiors will be contacted next time. We have his name and know exactly where he works, so if you are reading this, next time everyone on here will know who you are too.
Absolutely, but I wouldn't hold your breath! ;)
Post by: Dan-o on February 07, 2016, 12:55:18 AM
A WDFW employee abusing his privledge? Screw him... He'd have no problem screwing you or me. You gonna get a free get out of jail card from him?
No Utah, but we only want people to stay out, I am hopeful that they have learned, no sense ruining someone's career unless they continue to ignore the law. :twocents:
Phool,
I for one appreciate your perspective.
Just because you could have pressed it to the limit (possibly costing him his job) doesn't mean you needed to. Your discretion likely taught this person a lesson without throwing him and his family into financial chaos. Being a decent guy has a way of coming back around.......... :tup: :tup:
And, no, I don't condone trespassing, and I don't trespass - anymore. Haven't for over 30 years, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't ever trespass as a younger man. I'll bet I'm not the only one who had to learn the error of his ways in this regard. I was never caught, but my conscience let me know it was wrong and not worth it.
I hope you're able to find an effective way to cut the trespassing down.
Post by: M_ray on February 07, 2016, 01:11:28 AM
I hope you're able to find an effective way to cut the trespassing down.
This thread already has! ;)
Post by: Dan-o on February 07, 2016, 01:12:19 AM
Welcome to the United States of Ameriban.... It's not like I killed and ate anyone's dog...
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I hate to threadjack, but.....................
* I hate it when people develop a sense of entitlement (e.g. I'm entitled to post stupid comments on a privately owned website, ignoring their rules, because...... I'm entitled. I know I am because my mommy told me so over and over.)
* I hate it when people invoke America going down hill in their rants/whines.
* I REALLY hate it when entitled people try to invoke a picture of America going down hill just because their entitlement is called out.
Whew. Now returning to the regularly scheduled thread topic:
P.S. I do not support trespassing. :tung:
Post by: Dan-o on February 07, 2016, 01:17:35 AM
I hope you're able to find an effective way to cut the trespassing down.
This thread already has! ;)
:tup:
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on February 07, 2016, 07:27:39 AM
If you have people regularly trespassing, maybe come to a conclusion that you should sell an acre or two to a conservancy, the state, or dnr to allow public access. Why waste your time when you could be on to bigger and better.
:chuckle: You're kidding right?
Post by: jrebel on February 07, 2016, 07:29:46 AM
If you have people regularly trespassing, maybe come to a conclusion that you should sell an acre or two to a conservancy, the state, or dnr to allow public access. Why waste your time when you could be on to bigger and better.
:chuckle: You're kidding right?
I would be interested in a couple acres as well!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on February 07, 2016, 08:14:37 AM
Maybe he should add a warning to the posted signs: "If down these rows you ever go, passing apples to and fro, your picture on HuntWa will show that you're a disrespectful bro." :chuckle:
Post by: grundy53 on February 07, 2016, 08:27:19 AM
Unfortunately he isn't.If you have people regularly trespassing, maybe come to a conclusion that you should sell an acre or two to a conservancy, the state, or dnr to allow public access. Why waste your time when you could be on to bigger and better.
:chuckle: You're kidding right?
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Post by: jackelope on February 07, 2016, 08:28:00 AM
Knowing the property owner and half of the trespassers, I think the property owner has been very gracious, with his discretion, to people caught clearly violating the laws of trespassing (not to mention the malicious mischief with the apples). With permission, my family and I have been guests on the property to pick blackberries on several occasions. A simple respect for private property is the point being made here!
Maybe he should add a warning to the posted signs: "If down these rows you ever go, passing apples to and fro, your picture on HuntWa will show that you're a disrespectful bro." :chuckle:
Great post. It's all about respect.
Seems like lots of people know who these folks are.
Post by: bearpaw on February 07, 2016, 08:31:27 AM
Knowing the property owner and half of the trespassers, I think the property owner has been very gracious, with his discretion, to people caught clearly violating the laws of trespassing (not to mention the malicious mischief with the apples). With permission, my family and I have been guests on the property to pick blackberries on several occasions. A simple respect for private property is the point being made here!
Maybe he should add a warning to the posted signs: "If down these rows you ever go, passing apples to and fro, your picture on HuntWa will show that you're a disrespectful bro." :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: good one
I also thought the property owner and Phool handled this well, get the word out that trespassing will not be tolerated, and they gave everyone a second chance, I respect that! Next time drop the hammer on repeat offenders! This topic should serve as notice to anyone trespassing anywhere that you may be caught!
Post by: jrebel on February 07, 2016, 09:06:34 AM
Knowing the property owner and half of the trespassers, I think the property owner has been very gracious, with his discretion, to people caught clearly violating the laws of trespassing (not to mention the malicious mischief with the apples). With permission, my family and I have been guests on the property to pick blackberries on several occasions. A simple respect for private property is the point being made here!
Maybe he should add a warning to the posted signs: "If down these rows you ever go, passing apples to and fro, your picture on HuntWa will show that you're a disrespectful bro." :chuckle:
That poem cracked me up........ :chuckle:
Post by: cboom on February 07, 2016, 09:17:13 AM
If you have people regularly trespassing, maybe come to a conclusion that you should sell an acre or two to a conservancy, the state, or dnr to allow public access. Why waste your time when you could be on to bigger and better.
So if I regularly have a problem with theft in my business instead of improving surveillance and efforts to curb it, I should come to the conclusion people want what I have and I should become a charity and just give everything away? With all the people in prison today maybe we should come to the conclusion people don't like the laws we have? And instead of wasting time enforcing the laws we should just get rid of them?
Post by: huntnphool on February 07, 2016, 09:26:31 AM
Knowing the property owner and half of the trespassers, I think the property owner has been very gracious, with his discretion, to people caught clearly violating the laws of trespassing (not to mention the malicious mischief with the apples). With permission, my family and I have been guests on the property to pick blackberries on several occasions. A simple respect for private property is the point being made here!
Maybe he should add a warning to the posted signs: "If down these rows you ever go, passing apples to and fro, your picture on HuntWa will show that you're a disrespectful bro." :chuckle:
Now that's funny right there! :chuckle:
Post by: mountainman on February 07, 2016, 09:39:22 AM
👍Knowing the property owner and half of the trespassers, I think the property owner has been very gracious, with his discretion, to people caught clearly violating the laws of trespassing (not to mention the malicious mischief with the apples). With permission, my family and I have been guests on the property to pick blackberries on several occasions. A simple respect for private property is the point being made here!
Maybe he should add a warning to the posted signs: "If down these rows you ever go, passing apples to and fro, your picture on HuntWa will show that you're a disrespectful bro." :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: good one
I also thought the property owner and Phool handled this well, get the word out that trespassing will not be tolerated, and they gave everyone a second chance, I respect that! Next time drop the hammer on repeat offenders! This topic should serve as notice to anyone trespassing anywhere that you may be caught!
Post by: Rainier10 on February 07, 2016, 11:38:35 AM
:yeah: This makes the most sense to me, insert sarcasm emoticon here.If you have people regularly trespassing, maybe come to a conclusion that you should sell an acre or two to a conservancy, the state, or dnr to allow public access. Why waste your time when you could be on to bigger and better.
So if I regularly have a problem with theft in my business instead of improving surveillance and efforts to curb it, I should come to the conclusion people want what I have and I should become a charity and just give everything away? With all the people in prison today maybe we should come to the conclusion people don't like the laws we have? And instead of wasting time enforcing the laws we should just get rid of them?
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 08, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
All I can say, as a former natural resources agencies' employee, is that anyone who works in a field managing public resources, who jeopardizes their livelihood by deliberately breaking any law connected with their employer's area of responsibility, is dumber than a box of rocks and no loss to the agency if prosecuted. Over the last 30 years I've known several terminated or demoted for cause by state wildlife agencies for deliberate fish and wildlife violations - and not a one was a loss to the agency, the resource, or the public they serve.
Post by: Bob33 on February 08, 2016, 10:27:32 AM
I won't second guess anyone, but I wouldn't give a natural resource agency employee a second chance. There is absolutely no excuse. If he did it once, he's done it multiple times and needs to be terminated IMO.Knowing the property owner and half of the trespassers, I think the property owner has been very gracious, with his discretion, to people caught clearly violating the laws of trespassing (not to mention the malicious mischief with the apples). With permission, my family and I have been guests on the property to pick blackberries on several occasions. A simple respect for private property is the point being made here!
Maybe he should add a warning to the posted signs: "If down these rows you ever go, passing apples to and fro, your picture on HuntWa will show that you're a disrespectful bro." :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: good one
I also thought the property owner and Phool handled this well, get the word out that trespassing will not be tolerated, and they gave everyone a second chance, I respect that! Next time drop the hammer on repeat offenders! This topic should serve as notice to anyone trespassing anywhere that you may be caught!
Post by: Wacenturion on February 08, 2016, 11:16:08 AM
There is no excuse for trespassing on private land with the technology available today. Want to skirt the boundaries of private? Invest in good GPS technology, and don't get lazy cutting corners when you think you aren't being watched. I've ALWAYS been surprised at the tolerance of landowners for trespassers - usually satisfied with a good arse-chewing and "don't do it again". I've always encouraged those who complain about frequent trespassing to press charges, most of the places I've worked the deliberate trespassers know each other in many cases - and they also know which landowners DO press charges. Guess which ones they stay off?
All I can say, as a former natural resources agencies' employee, is that anyone who works in a field managing public resources, who jeopardizes their livelihood by deliberately breaking any law connected with their employer's area of responsibility, is dumber than a box of rocks and no loss to the agency if prosecuted. Over the last 30 years I've known several terminated or demoted for cause by state wildlife agencies for deliberate fish and wildlife violations - and not a one was a loss to the agency, the resource, or the public they serve.
Well said. Being an employee of WDFW for 30+ years I would say the same. If you want to stop trepassing, make them face the penalty. If you want to cut someone some slack, you can usually recognize who made an honest mistake vesus those who didn't, based on demeaner and responses. Like poachers they are stealing from you, animals lost, access lost.
DOUBLELUNG's last statement is right on. :tup:
Post by: Gringo31 on February 08, 2016, 12:16:29 PM
Locals are usually the worst and I expect traffic to slow down. It's a tough job patrolling and enforcing.....it makes you start to hate everyone.