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Title: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Terry Dean on January 19, 2015, 10:21:19 PM: Has anyone made their own Hancock beaver trap?
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: KFhunter on January 19, 2015, 10:25:56 PM: them suitcase traps are spendy ain't they :chuckle:

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Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Terry Dean on January 19, 2015, 10:34:32 PM: sure are but im sure these can be done for under 50$
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Post by: Humptulips on January 19, 2015, 10:38:18 PM: The springs are the problem. You have that figured out?
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Post by: Terry Dean on January 19, 2015, 10:40:15 PM: No But Im a DIY guy lol Im sure i can figure it out if someone hasnt already
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Post by: Humptulips on January 19, 2015, 10:45:55 PM: I think you would likely have to make the springs.

To tell he truth though I can't imagine why anyone would buy or build one of the things with the traps we have now. To me they are obsolete.
Too heavy,
Too bulky,
Too hard to set
and they do a lot of fur damage.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Terry Dean on January 19, 2015, 10:48:22 PM: well what do you recommend for beavers??? im new and realizing that we can only use live traps i thought these would be good for beaver
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Post by: KFhunter on January 19, 2015, 10:57:43 PM: hancock traps shine when used as a drowning set but you better know what your doing to make sure it flops over in the water properly
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Post by: Humptulips on January 19, 2015, 11:01:16 PM: Well, They are a good trap in that they will catch beaver.
I think a better combo is some type of swim through type trap for blind sets and a beefy single door for scent sets.
Other option is a heavy duty swim through that is stout enough to hold up to be set on land so you can use it for scent sets as well as blind sets.
Material wise that runs about $40/trap. I know the cost because I made some this fall.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: KFhunter on January 19, 2015, 11:08:44 PM: I would mind some hancock traps for trapping the rivers, no hut in sight or anywhere to put a swim through when they come up the bank in random places to eat. Can bait and set on a slide where they're working the banks

chain the hancocks to the shore and place them so they flop over in the river and get sucked down until they hit the end of the chain
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Terry Dean on January 19, 2015, 11:09:39 PM: you have any pics of the traps you made?
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Humptulips on January 19, 2015, 11:27:12 PM: There are a number of threads with pictures of my trap design on here but I don't have any good pics of my new ones. same basic design though.
Best I have of it but I have tweaked the design a couple times since this,
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0697_zpsf8d40063.jpg&hash=01f3ded59d6bef1e15842c1defa911f3a0b604c9) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0697_zpsf8d40063.jpg.html)
Problem you will have is getting the right materials. I looked long and hard for a source for that wire.

Old traps, Easy to find this kind of wire
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0472.jpg&hash=4506a2ce41bfd8b376cbad63feb2bef22d69ffa2) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0472.jpg.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0471.jpg&hash=bd37d07355dcca6f82be62656b48823dbc4ce4ab) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0471.jpg.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0474.jpg&hash=7a1d490c133a7acd7547ff01d25a0948388061b7) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0474.jpg.html)
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Post by: Terry Dean on January 19, 2015, 11:34:48 PM: Thanks!!!
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Post by: -Trap_addicT- on January 20, 2015, 12:24:02 PM: What part of the beaver had damage to the fur? I've caught dozens in my Hancock and have never had an issue. Also, never used it as a drown set. The swim throughs are slick though!! Quick sets, produce well.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: onetrapper on January 20, 2015, 05:35:46 PM: I would like to see a small one for muskrats but I think cost would be prohibitive since you would need several
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Humptulips on January 20, 2015, 07:28:29 PM: Quote from: -Trap_addicT- on January 20, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
What part of the beaver had damage to the fur? I've caught dozens in my Hancock and have never had an issue. Also, never used it as a drown set. The swim throughs are slick though!! Quick sets, produce well.
I have put up a number from other trappers and the middle of the back is commonly rubbed.
Never owned one myself so I can not say what can be done to avoid it but just know I have seen a lot of it.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Terry Dean on January 20, 2015, 07:31:38 PM: So another question can you use drown traps? or do beavers still have to be caught alive?
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Humptulips on January 20, 2015, 07:34:02 PM: Quote from: Terry Dean on January 20, 2015, 07:31:38 PM
So another question can you use drown traps? or do beavers still have to be caught alive?
Sure, you can use drown traps. They just have to be cage traps.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Terry Dean on January 20, 2015, 07:37:15 PM: :tup:
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Post by: Carp Commander on January 20, 2015, 07:54:30 PM: Quote from: onetrapper on January 20, 2015, 05:35:46 PM
I would like to see a small one for muskrats but I think cost would be prohibitive since you would need several

Not sure why I haven't thought about that. I have to build one now just for fun. Make a neat little novelty item.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Humptulips on January 20, 2015, 08:11:41 PM: Quote from: Humptulips on January 20, 2015, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: Terry Dean on January 20, 2015, 07:31:38 PM
So another question can you use drown traps? or do beavers still have to be caught alive?
Sure, you can use drown traps. They just have to be cage traps.
I should add it is quite an advantage to use a drowning set with your cage trap as it extends the check time to 72 hours.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Smossy on January 20, 2015, 08:14:39 PM: Quote from: Humptulips on January 19, 2015, 11:27:12 PM
There are a number of threads with pictures of my trap design on here but I don't have any good pics of my new ones. same basic design though.
Best I have of it but I have tweaked the design a couple times since this,
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0697_zpsf8d40063.jpg&hash=01f3ded59d6bef1e15842c1defa911f3a0b604c9) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0697_zpsf8d40063.jpg.html)
Problem you will have is getting the right materials. I looked long and hard for a source for that wire.

Old traps, Easy to find this kind of wire
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0472.jpg&hash=4506a2ce41bfd8b376cbad63feb2bef22d69ffa2) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0472.jpg.html)
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(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0474.jpg&hash=7a1d490c133a7acd7547ff01d25a0948388061b7) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0474.jpg.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0500_zpsc6af001b.jpg&hash=9fa150d1cde89bccd9b29caafe34b00a0963472f) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0500_zpsc6af001b.jpg.html)

Bruce, so are you basically just building a frame, then wrapping in 1x2 wire fencing?
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Humptulips on January 20, 2015, 08:21:06 PM: It's not a full frame. There are five squares, two with doors, one with the trigger and two at the point where the ends of the door sits when open.
Easier to explain if you have one in hand.
I would use 1x1 wire instead of 1x2 wire now.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Smossy on January 20, 2015, 08:25:04 PM: Quote from: Humptulips on January 20, 2015, 08:21:06 PM
It's not a full frame. There are five squares, two with doors, one with the trigger and two at the point where the ends of the door sits when open.
Easier to explain if you have one in hand.
I would use 1x1 wire instead of 1x2 wire now.
Ive got a welder, Might consider building a few if I can figure out the triggering mechanism for the doors. Id have to have one in hand like you said and I should be able to copy it, Where do you find parts for those?
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Humptulips on January 20, 2015, 09:04:51 PM: Quote from: Smossy on January 20, 2015, 08:25:04 PM
Quote from: Humptulips on January 20, 2015, 08:21:06 PM
It's not a full frame. There are five squares, two with doors, one with the trigger and two at the point where the ends of the door sits when open.
Easier to explain if you have one in hand.
I would use 1x1 wire instead of 1x2 wire now.
Ive got a welder, Might consider building a few if I can figure out the triggering mechanism for the doors. Id have to have one in hand like you said and I should be able to copy it, Where do you find parts for those?
Springs and dogs I get from Minnesota Trapline Supply but any Trapper supply has them. The rest I make.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Hannibal on January 20, 2015, 11:00:04 PM: I have 4 for sale at 250 obo each......../trabe???????????.............
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: 70sdiver on January 24, 2015, 03:24:37 PM: have you gotten much fur damage bruce from the dog rod after it drops or do most of them drown quickly enough?
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Post by: eburgtrapper on January 24, 2015, 07:55:14 PM: Quote from: Hannibal on January 20, 2015, 11:00:04 PM
I have 4 for sale at 250 obo each......../trabe???????????.............

4 handcocks for sale?
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: Humptulips on January 24, 2015, 07:58:14 PM: Quote from: 70sdiver on January 24, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
have you gotten much fur damage bruce from the dog rod after it drops or do most of them drown quickly enough?

I've never had any fur damage in any of my traps.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: hardkorrhunter on January 26, 2015, 08:25:42 PM: I to have bruces style traps and love them and have had zero fur damage. Very cost effective if built yourself.
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Post by: bear hunter on April 10, 2016, 08:57:36 PM: Just was reading this and had a picture of one in a Hancock. By the time my buddy got to his shop the beaver rubbed a spot. The hide was fine at first but he couldn't dispatched until he got back the the shop. I never had one rub but I can see it happening.
Quote from: -Trap_addicT- on January 20, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
What part of the beaver had damage to the fur? I've caught dozens in my Hancock and have never had an issue. Also, never used it as a drown set. The swim throughs are slick though!! Quick sets, produce well.
Title: Re: Diy Hancock trap?
Post by: JakeLand on April 10, 2016, 11:07:09 PM: Swim throughs from Bruce and Jesse are the way to go and like said I've had no fur damage at all !!! They are light weight and fast to set and you can use them on land as a blind set in a trail I personally will never spend the money on a Hancock style trap just too heavy,bulky for me. The only thing I'm changing on my swim through cages is I'm going to at least a 14 gauge wire mesh my :twocents:
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Post by: Kit Carson on April 11, 2016, 07:51:52 PM: nice looking beaver ;)
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Post by: bear hunter on April 12, 2016, 09:01:46 PM: Quote from: Kit Carson on April 11, 2016, 07:51:52 PM
nice looking beaver ;)
you should know you caught it. Lol
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Post by: Kit Carson on April 12, 2016, 09:30:22 PM: Quote from: bear hunter on April 12, 2016, 09:01:46 PM
Quote from: Kit Carson on April 11, 2016, 07:51:52 PM
nice looking beaver ;)
you should know you caught it. Lol

It was nice until I got him out of the truck and took a closer look. Wanting to do more stuff with swim thrus because of this