Post by: elkaddict652 on January 24, 2015, 09:48:47 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2015, 09:56:01 PM
Wow. Love to hear the rest of this story.
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Post by: elkaddict652 on January 24, 2015, 10:02:14 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2015, 10:02:54 PM
Or I'm thinking about a totally different bull.
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Post by: _TONY_ on January 24, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
Post by: elkaddict652 on January 24, 2015, 10:06:13 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2015, 10:08:51 PM
If this is the bill you're talking about your story is not accurate.
Post by: _TONY_ on January 24, 2015, 10:11:22 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2015, 10:12:00 PM
Was this the bull that was supposedly shot in washougal?
The bull I posted the picture of was killed in King County but rumors were flying that it was killed in washougal.
Post by: elkaddict652 on January 24, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2015, 10:15:21 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 24, 2015, 10:29:43 PM
Post by: TriggerMike on January 24, 2015, 10:30:34 PM
subscribing for updates 8):yeah:
Post by: 6haase6 on January 24, 2015, 10:38:06 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 24, 2015, 11:03:20 PM
The Bulls head was at the head and horns competition. Not sure how he could be facing felony poaching charges and still enter the head into the contest.:yeah:
I thought I saw this guy and this bull at the show today. Brought the antlers in on his backback about 1pm today I thought.
Post by: CementFinisher on January 24, 2015, 11:08:33 PM
Post by: grundy53 on January 24, 2015, 11:08:52 PM
Post by: bigbeamhunter on January 25, 2015, 12:09:08 AM
Post by: huntnphool on January 25, 2015, 02:10:26 AM
Post by: bigtex on January 25, 2015, 07:37:47 PM
The poacher has been arrested and facing felony poaching charges.In order to face felony poaching charges for an elk there has to be more to the story. Either a) he has a big game conviction in the past 5 years OR b) it was apart of a spree killing.
Post by: TheHunt on January 25, 2015, 07:43:56 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 25, 2015, 07:46:44 PM
The poacher has been arrested and facing felony poaching charges.In order to face felony poaching charges for an elk there has to be more to the story. Either a) he has a big game conviction in the past 5 years OR b) it was apart of a spree killing.
I think there must be some type of confusion as there is no way he would be able to enter it in the heads and horn comp and have it taken. :dunno:Not sure what is going on or if there is an investigation but I do know he is not in jail and the antlers were still in his possesion today.
The guy in the photo above and these horns were both at the show today, the horns won best in show and he received the prize.
Post by: Band on January 25, 2015, 08:15:42 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 25, 2015, 08:45:06 PM
id like to get a pic up so everyone knows which bull im talkin about, but apparently the picture created enough stir that the wdfw and king co sheriff decided to do some investigating. They tracked the guy down using the picture of him and bull and found the bull at his house. Upon first questioning he said he pulled it out of hancock but people had sent in multiple trail cam pictures and statements saying it had been seen in other areas. They did some forensic tests and somehow determined that it had been shot at night. The bull has been confiscated and is awaiting a scoring now. The poacher has been arrested and facing felony poaching charges.
Because somebody shot a big bull, two different law enforcement agencies spent time and money because it just had to have been poached. And they used facial recognition technology to find him and some futuristic forensic techniques that proved it was shot at night?
Rigggggghhhhht.
But of course this wasn't plastered all over the news because WDF&W doesn't like to boast about their successes.
Post by: longwalker on January 25, 2015, 08:48:34 PM
Post by: JWEBB on January 25, 2015, 08:52:46 PM
The poacher has been arrested and facing felony poaching charges.In order to face felony poaching charges for an elk there has to be more to the story. Either a) he has a big game conviction in the past 5 years OR b) it was apart of a spree killing.I think there must be some type of confusion as there is no way he would be able to enter it in the heads and horn comp and have it taken. :dunno:Not sure what is going on or if there is an investigation but I do know he is not in jail and the antlers were still in his possesion today.
The guy in the photo above and these horns were both at the show today, the horns won best in show and he received the prize.
Do you know what it scored? and what class it was entered? rosie rocky?
Post by: Rainier10 on January 25, 2015, 08:59:21 PM
Cascade Roosevelt Elk Archery 387 3/8 John Kinnies killed in King County 2014The poacher has been arrested and facing felony poaching charges.In order to face felony poaching charges for an elk there has to be more to the story. Either a) he has a big game conviction in the past 5 years OR b) it was apart of a spree killing.I think there must be some type of confusion as there is no way he would be able to enter it in the heads and horn comp and have it taken. :dunno:Not sure what is going on or if there is an investigation but I do know he is not in jail and the antlers were still in his possesion today.
The guy in the photo above and these horns were both at the show today, the horns won best in show and he received the prize.
Do you know what it scored? and what class it was entered? rosie rocky?
Post by: JWEBB on January 25, 2015, 09:05:58 PM
Cascade Roosevelt Elk Archery 387 3/8 John Kinnies killed in King County 2014The poacher has been arrested and facing felony poaching charges.In order to face felony poaching charges for an elk there has to be more to the story. Either a) he has a big game conviction in the past 5 years OR b) it was apart of a spree killing.I think there must be some type of confusion as there is no way he would be able to enter it in the heads and horn comp and have it taken. :dunno:Not sure what is going on or if there is an investigation but I do know he is not in jail and the antlers were still in his possesion today.
The guy in the photo above and these horns were both at the show today, the horns won best in show and he received the prize.
Do you know what it scored? and what class it was entered? rosie rocky?
thanks! Dandy for sure!
Post by: elk247 on January 25, 2015, 09:34:58 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on January 25, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
Post by: TommyH on January 26, 2015, 07:34:02 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on January 26, 2015, 09:32:34 AM
Post by: grundy53 on January 26, 2015, 09:49:40 AM
>:( come back with some facts. There were alot of stories going around about where it came from. Thats not too unusual with an animal of this calibur. This is a special bull. If a guy doesn't want to share all the details or location, he shouldn't be expected to. That doesn't mean it was a shady hunt. I don't know the hunter but this bull doesn't deserve to be defamed without facts. The forensics story is hard to believe. This all sounds like bull *censored* to me. Without facts all threads like this will accomplish is gossip and preventing successful hunters from posting pictures.Couldn't agree more.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 26, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
I think everything I posted was factually.>:( come back with some facts. There were alot of stories going around about where it came from. Thats not too unusual with an animal of this calibur. This is a special bull. If a guy doesn't want to share all the details or location, he shouldn't be expected to. That doesn't mean it was a shady hunt. I don't know the hunter but this bull doesn't deserve to be defamed without facts. The forensics story is hard to believe. This all sounds like bull *censored* to me. Without facts all threads like this will accomplish is gossip and preventing successful hunters from posting pictures.Couldn't agree more.
The guy in that picture and those antlers were at the sportsman's show. He arrived Saturday about 1:30 pm with them on his back, pretty tough to not get some attention with a rack like that on your back. They were entered as a Cascade Roosevelt elk, they scored 387 3/8", it said killed with archery equipment in King County 2014 and he did get best in show and a prize, just not sure if it was a gift certificate for a savage rifle or something else but he was there to receive the prize.
I was trying to clear up some of the rumors that were stated in this thread.
I don't know all the stories about how, where and when so I didn't comment on those just what I knew to be true from what I saw at the show.
I would love to know the rest of the story but understand why many of the details wouldn't be shared. There is always controversy with big animals like this and that is too bad. Some of the time it is relevant but most of the time it is not. Who knows how this one will turn out or if it will just fade away.
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 26, 2015, 10:11:33 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F01%2F24%2F131a7a3238da5b4a1c7a2939784493ca.jpg&hash=cedb3fd1d12eb651d4491f90758765eaea5a9b04)Saw this same guy walking around with a medallion around his neck for winning yesterday afternoon at the show. Here is the picture of the rack
If this is the bill you're talking about your story is not accurate.
Post by: elkaddict652 on January 26, 2015, 10:15:13 AM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 26, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
PS, I like FGL
Post by: elkaddict652 on January 26, 2015, 11:01:09 AM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 26, 2015, 11:04:59 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on January 26, 2015, 11:06:05 AM
Post by: elk247 on January 26, 2015, 11:43:13 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on January 26, 2015, 03:32:19 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 26, 2015, 04:15:12 PM
Am I the only one that's like......King County!? That thing is a booger hog!!!!!!!!
Shhh....it's a secret.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 26, 2015, 04:28:56 PM
HA! There are elk like that behind nearly every Prius in the county. :twocents:Am I the only one that's like......King County!? That thing is a booger hog!!!!!!!!
Shhh....it's a secret.
Post by: _TONY_ on January 26, 2015, 05:34:51 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 26, 2015, 05:35:41 PM
Duh, the watershed is in king county... There's Bulls like that behind every tree In there :chuckle:
:yike:
Post by: pd on January 26, 2015, 06:17:54 PM
Because somebody shot a big bull, two different law enforcement agencies spent time and money because it just had to have been poached. And they used facial recognition technology to find him and some futuristic forensic techniques that proved it was shot at night?
Rigggggghhhhht.
There is a well told story in Idaho (actually, it's a classic urban legend, told and retold) that goes like this: Warden stops a hunter at the check station, looks at the animal, busts the hunter for poaching. How did the warden know it was illegally harvested? "Animals shot at nighttime will have dilated eyes because of the spotlight...."
Total horse ba-hookey.
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 26, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
Post by: grundy53 on January 26, 2015, 07:12:29 PM
I am wrong but i was thinking Wdfw classifies anything east of i5 a Rocky Mt. Elk. Last I know king co. where elk are is east of i5. Unless the boone and crocket scoring is based solely on species type only. No matter what it was a dandy bull.That's Boone and Crockett's boundary. The WDFW uses the Pacific Crest Trail.
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 26, 2015, 07:13:56 PM
Ok thanks.I am wrong but i was thinking Wdfw classifies anything east of i5 a Rocky Mt. Elk. Last I know king co. where elk are is east of i5. Unless the boone and crocket scoring is based solely on species type only. No matter what it was a dandy bull.That's Boone and Crockett's boundary. The WDFW uses the Pacific Crest Trail.
Post by: mfswallace on January 26, 2015, 07:19:52 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on January 26, 2015, 08:16:09 PM
Duh, the watershed is in king county... There's Bulls like that behind every tree In there :chuckle:
Lol. If only we could go into that. I've peered in and wondered...
Post by: _TONY_ on January 26, 2015, 08:57:17 PM
Duh, the watershed is in king county... There's Bulls like that behind every tree In there :chuckle:
Lol. If only we could go into that. I've peered in and wondered...
Yep. I wish they offered an archery quality permit for the shed... :bash:
Post by: pd on January 27, 2015, 02:05:39 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 27, 2015, 03:18:15 PM